1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: This is jem Nayson. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: We Jonesy, our next guest, has changed what we think 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: about health and dieting by making himself the guinea pig. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: He introduced the idea of intermittent fasting with a five 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: to two diet than the Fast eight hundred. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: He's got a new book now called Just One. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Thing that investigates ways that we can improve our overall 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: health and the timing couldn't be better with Christmas and 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: over indulging around the corner. 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Michael Mosley, Hello. 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: Hello to you, good morning. Hey. 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: In light of this book, are there some things that 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: we would be surprised that are good for us that 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: we don't think are sure? 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: Because the idea of the book Just One Thing actually 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 4: emerged from a very popular podcast series I do, and 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 4: each of those is fifteen minutes and I explore one 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 4: thing you can try and then give it a go 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: myself and talk to leading scientists about it. So some 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: of the things are more hardy than others. For example, 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: have you a cold share in the morning? 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Now? I do that on regular basis. 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: Get in their warm shirt, turn it cold, stay long 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 4: enough to sing a couple of verses of some song. 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: Because I sing very loudly as well, because singing is 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 4: really good for you along with the cold water and 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: makes my wife Claire flee the room, but she doesn't 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: enjoy my singing. But that way I get to just 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: one thing's in one go. And we know that with 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: cold water, cold chars benefits for your brain, wakes you up, 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 4: also good for the immune system. Singing similarly also good 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: for the immune system and other things. So that gets 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 4: me going. Firstly in the morning, who. 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: I would stop the urges as well, say, your wife 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 5: would be happy. 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: I think I've warmed up even. 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: Now. 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Apparently coffee is not that bad for us. 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely no. Turns out coffee is very good for you. 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: And that's another just one thing, having a couple of 41 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: cups of coffee in the morning. Interestingly, you know a 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: lot of people basically roll out of bed and then 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: they not back the coffee. But what my expert said 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: was it's better to leave it for about forty five 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: minutes an hour or something like that, because what happens 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: when you get out of bed is your stress woman 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: cordsol is rising. That's giving you a bit of a 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: sort of boost get out of bed, and if you 49 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: whack coffee. On top of that, it just makes you 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 4: more anxious. But if you wait for about an hour, 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: your Cordson levels have started to fall, and then what 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: you do is you hit it with some caffeine that 53 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: will perk you up. But as you said, lots of 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: research showing two to three cups of coffee a day 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: seems to be really good for the heart, increases longevity, 56 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: good for the brain as well. So I'm a big 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: fan of it. Think of it as a vegetable, a 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: brown colored vegetable in a cup. 59 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: And what about bread? For me? 61 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: If I eat bread, I can just look at bread 62 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 5: and I just put on white so lightly. I've just 63 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: stopped eating bread and instantly the white falls off me. 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Unfortunately, some people are super sensitive to cut. I'm 65 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: one of them. 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 4: I'm like you, if there's bread in the house, firstly, 67 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: I will eat it all and not just kind of 68 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: you know, one slim slide, but pretty. 69 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: Much half the loaf. 70 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: And as soon as I do, it's not great from 71 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: my blood sugars and I put on weight, so I 72 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: try to avoid if. Unfortunately, my wife loves bread, so 73 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: we do so it's not that is not one of 74 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: the just one things I have to say, eating bread, 75 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: but eating dark chocolate is you'll be pleased to hear 76 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: because it turns out the dark chocolate is packed with 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: the substance called flabinoles. And I didn't know, but cocoa 78 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: is thirty percent fiber, So you get a good old 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: dose of fiber along with the dark chocolate, and the 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: flabonoles in turn kind of feed the good bactor in 81 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: your gut, and that helps bring down your blood pressure 82 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: and improve all. 83 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: Sorts of things. 84 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: So I have a good section on dark chocolate and 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: the benefits of that, and particularly if you kind of, 86 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: you know, substitute your normal milky stuff for a square 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: or two of the dark stuff, then that's going to 88 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: do you good. So all the things in this book 89 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: are designed to be simple to do, but you need 90 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: to keep on doing them for a while. Ideally, you know, 91 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: if you can do them for a month, there's a 92 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: good chance they'll stick. And if you can link them 93 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 4: to something else, that's also a really good way of 94 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: in graining your habit. So, for example, when I get 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: out of bed, I do press ups in the squads, 96 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 4: and that's because I have to get out of bed 97 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: in the morning, so I kind of link it to that, 98 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: so I know that if I don't do it first 99 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: in the morning, I'm never going to do it. And incidentally, 100 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: the press up with the squat pretty well the best 101 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: exercise you can do, because the squad works the biggest 102 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: muscles in your body vers in your butt, and the 103 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: press up works the top you know, your chest and 104 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: things like that, good for your spine. And interestingly, both 105 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: these exercises are also really good for the brain because 106 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: again I look into the science of that, and one 107 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: of the things that happens when you do that is 108 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: you get a big surge of oxygen for brein and 109 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: this is a good thing. 110 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: You're busy in them morning, you must be buggered by 111 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 5: the time. 112 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: You get the old showers. 113 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 5: Drink chocolate in the shower. Well talked about Michael Wesley. 114 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: It's always great to talk to you. Just one thing. 115 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 5: It's out now in all good bookstores and online. 116 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: Thank you for us brilliantly. Yeah,