WEBVTT - CALLUM HOLE - AUSSIE SHORE - PARAMOUNT + 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.680 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.960 TV Reload the podcast can't leave the right. Hey guys, 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.280 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.240 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Callum Hole 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.360 who joins me to talk about all things Ozsie Shaw, 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.760 which is now out on Paramount Plus. I actually came 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.960 across Callum like many Australians, when he featured on Love 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.680 Island Australia a couple of years back. I had been 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.800 warned he was excellent TV while the show was in 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.760 early production and have been kind of obsessed with him 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.960 ever since. He was fantastic and I'm a celebrity, get 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.040 me out of here. He's a real treat as well 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.400 in Ossie Shaw, and I think that there's plenty more 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.560 to come in watching his career continuing to take off. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.760 Callum will talk about how he manages all of these 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.000 dating shows and if he needs to be single to 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.199 keep his brand active. We will unpack the dynamics and 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.120 Ossie Shaw and if producers filled him in on the 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.600 storylines before being dropped in late to the show. I 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.880 will discuss his upcoming projects and if there is any 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.000 more TV in the works, and maybe he will tease 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.200 us with some of that that's coming up. You will 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.640 get everything from a discussion on his friendship with Denise Drysdale, 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.080 managing his vain, and some insights into the current state 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.160 of play amongst the cast of Ossie Shaw. There's actually 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.120 so much to talk about, with so many inside revelations. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.880 So guys, sit back and relax as we unpack the 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:24.040 wonderful world of Ossie Shaw. I'm doing really well. You're 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.119 looking very fresh yourself. Did you get a good night's 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:27.959 sleep before today? 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:28.360 Yeah? 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.360 I did actually, but as a bit of conceding on 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.680 that as well, I have the a lot of travel 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.800 in the last couple of months, so I'm a bit drained, 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.360 to be fair, So sometimes I get a bit of 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.760 concealed under the eyes paying in it. You know. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.199 It's really funny is that for the last ten years 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.360 I've not done any form of like injectables or anything 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.200 to try and maintain my age. And I did this 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.240 recently when I was on the Gold Coast, and now 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.400 I don't know. I was always worried if I did 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.600 something to my face that I wouldn't look like me, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.360 that I'd look like one of those had a lot 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:56.880 of work done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean do you 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.320 get a lot of pressure to have that kind of 0:01:58.320 --> 0:01:58.920 stuff done? 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.000 Well? Not really really. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.680 I mean I have thought about having some like Bolg 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.480 talks put in my head because apparently prevention is key, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.520 But again, I don't think I need it just yet. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.240 Maybe another year and I'll be banged in me. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.400 I mean, you're looking pretty fit. Let me just tell 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.760 you this right now. Honestly, I wasn't leading to saying 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.320 you need work, Just so you know, I want to 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.160 say congratulations on your success here in Australia, like you 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.880 have taken Australia by storms since doing Love Island Australia. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.120 How does it feel to become so popular in a 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.639 country that's sort of not your born country. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.680 Yeah, it's actually it's actually a really surreal feeling. And 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.320 I you know, I pinched myself, you know, very often, 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.440 and it's almost like I'm living in like a fake 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.960 world at the moment, you know, because I've never in 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.720 a million years thought that i'd be having the like 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.400 the lifestyle that I'm actually having now. It's yeah, it's 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.040 it's the best, but obviously, like everything, it's got its 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:52.880 ups and downs, you know, like it does require a 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.160 lot of travel and that sort of thing. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.440 But I always compare myself to you. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.200 Know, my old jobs when I was working like a 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:59.840 nine to five and that's sort of thing, and I'm like, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.519 I'd rather cash flights every single day than do anything 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.200 like that. So I'm so grateful, and you know, without 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.799 the people that are by my fans, and I wouldn't 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.160 be where I am today, you know, continue to do 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:09.800 TV shows. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.920 So h that's definitely like my home from home. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.360 Bob with the nine to five jobs. I kind of 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.040 imagine you working at my work. If you were working 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.800 at my work and I saw you walk past and 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.639 you were going to the xerox machine or whatever, I 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.000 might lose my shit. I'd be like, that's really too 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:24.560 ready to work here, Get him out of here. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.000 I've done all sorts of jobs, honestly. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:33.200 I've worked in gym's, personal training, sales, reception jobs. I've 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.560 been a fruit cutter. I've worked in paintball arenas like 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.680 you name it. I've probably done it, but I've probably 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:39.680 last two weeks. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.720 Is that because you don't go to work the next day, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.080 you get to thirsty Thursday and you go out for 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.680 a big that on Thursday and not return. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.880 Yeah, I mean, I think sometimes I struggle to be 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:50.800 told what to do, and I have rules in place, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.720 so like if I'm told to be somewhere at a 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.400 certain time, like for example, most days, you know, if 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.080 I was to rock up a little bit later from work, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.640 I could be in the car going to work, and 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.600 I could be ten minutes late. I just stop in 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.360 a coffee shop for an hour or two, because I'm like, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.080 in my head, if I'm going to be lit, i 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.760 might as well be properly and I'm still gonna get 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.160 in trouble either way. Things like that just get get 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.800 the wrong side of the bosses in there, so I 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.040 just end up losing my jobs in that. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:11.520 Yeah. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.360 No, I did a reality show and they had to 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.400 have a secret before you went in, and my secret 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.280 was that I was fired from every job that I'd 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.280 ever had. And people were like, but you look like 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.600 like a normal person, Like you don't look like I mean, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.880 I don't know what a person who what a person 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:27.960 who gets fired all the time looks like. But clearly 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.240 it wasn't me. But it was because I was not 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.440 able to follow simple things like you know, getting to 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.280 work on time. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the other things. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.240 And you're right in the sense that like obviously being 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.640 a younger through a party goer and stuff like that. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.040 You know, like you know, I'm never going to rock 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.840 up to a Sunday shift and I always accept them, 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.159 but I'm never going to be there. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.640 It's more for than then putting me on the rock stack, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:48.279 you know what I mean. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.600 We've done like five seasons of Love Island Australia. We've 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.200 got a season on right now, and there's been so 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.800 many people that have been Islanders, you know, have gone 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.279 into the villas, but you have stood out amongst everybody. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.599 I want to know more about your ex spectation of 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.160 going on this show. Did you just think you were 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.520 going to go on the show and find a bird 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.000 and settle down or did you have some kind of 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.240 idea that this might be a porthal to the dimension 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:10.200 that you're now living in. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.520 Yeah, I mean you go in there with an open 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.760 mind because obviously it is it is a dating show, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.880 and you have to go in there with the mindset 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.520 of being open to date some day. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.760 So yes, one Dre and when I went in there. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.000 I was like open to dating and opening open to 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:24.760 meet some day because they asked me a few years 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.400 in the row and I declined it because I was like, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.040 why would I go on Love Island. I'm going to 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.520 be saying good, I'm in Australia, so the best country 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:30.760 in the world, Like I'm not going to settle down. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.200 Then all the time I was like, I think it 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:33.640 was like second or third year. I was like, you 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.520 know what, I'll do it, I'll chust it out. And 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.200 I remember going in there and the first week was 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.080 an absolutely mad nuts because I was like, you know, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.640 I'll put my fingers and all the pies and I 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.880 was made that girl and it's mad. But then I 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.880 met somebody pretty early on called Leila. I don't know 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.400 if you remember week two to week three, and that 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.040 was the most boring week that I've had, you know, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.440 because I was like, I wake up, how breakfast to 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.680 day that you know we tanned together? Then we have 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.800 did that together, and then we grew up. Like no 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.000 before that was mad because I was just going everywhere. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.080 So as soon as later left, I was back to 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.040 like being single in it again, and that's when I 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.960 started having fun against Then I think I learned that 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.240 you know what, I should be single because I have 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:09.680 more fun. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.920 It is funny that people call you the love rant, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.040 like when you did I'm a celebrity, they're like love rant. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.560 But I actually, from what we can say on television 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.279 Callum dating, I actually think you do it quite well. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.520 Like I don't think there's anything ratty about it at all. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.800 You're pretty much not already had a good time. Did 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.320 you have a good time? See you later? Here's my yeah, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:27.760 told me. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.720 I think I think that's how how I got it. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.400 I got kind of got away with it because it's 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.760 like I remember, even on my first level, and I 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.720 think I'd said something to Claudia. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.520 I said something along the lines of. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.000 Like, I'm not I'm not datable, don't I'm not eve 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.760 nere to try and date, so don't try and date me. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.719 And then she ran off to all the girls, you know, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.440 trying to be like, oh, Calum said this, you know, 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.200 stay away from him. Then the girls were like, oh, 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.159 he's already told us, So as long as I'm honest 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.720 and transparent, and I tell the girls exactly what they 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.279 get himself into. If they do it again heartbroken, then 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.520 that's on them. But it's not guilt on my chest 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.000 because I said it as it isn't start. I know, 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.000 I'm not like misleading them or or you know, promising 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.880 them the world. If you're not fun, I'm your guy. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.640 But if you want like marriage and kids, you have 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:06.560 to look some rest, Stalin. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.000 Is that how it is for you now? Because like 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.400 I was out on the Gold Coast at the opening 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.800 of Juju, and I actually felt like it was like 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.960 a live version of a dating show because I was 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.520 watching you there and the sky was there, and people 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.680 were rumoring. People were saying that you're floating with her, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.120 I think you'll go there or whoever the bird was 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:24.880 that you were saying for that night, and then there 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.280 was the rest of the club and I was like 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.440 watching someone date the whole club. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.120 Yeah, it does. It does get like that. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.040 You know. It's kind of like it's almost like a 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:34.840 covey about the birds, you know what I mean. Whatever 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.520 I go, I just got a line up pretty much 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.840 like it's it is. It is a madness. And when 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.160 I go to my friends, they're like, how would you 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.080 do it? I'm like, it does feel like word, you 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.240 know what I mean. But that's why I have started 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.320 seeing some bird for a couple of months now, and 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.640 it's been going good because it's like when I go out, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.240 I just couldn't just relax, you know. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.560 I don't feel like I. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.400 Need to rise up all these birds all night long, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:55.800 you know, because I know, like there might be a 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.160 couple of burgers in the club, but I I got 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.000 a stick a whole minute. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.840 I mean, so I'm starting to change my way to 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:00.480 a little bit. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.440 But I'm definitely not like marriage material or anything like 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:04.520 that yet, that's for sure. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.840 I think of you with like a Ken and Bobby Doll. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:07.480 This girl. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.120 Please don't take this to any sort of offense. But 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.400 it's almost like everyone gets a chance to play with Ken, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:14.640 do you know what I mean? Like I don't want 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.240 you to settle down because there's all these bobbies out 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:18.760 there that still want to have a turn, do you 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.200 know what I mean? 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.520 Yeah, yeah, But it's like it's like when everyone wants 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.200 what they can't have, right, That's the way I look 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:25.760 at it. And you know, when I was younger and 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.360 I started going out or started you know, meeting girls, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:29.960 I was like, oh, that's so good, you know, because 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.040 you know, met this girl or going on a date 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.199 with this girl. But now because they're just so accessible, 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.240 it kind of like puts me off a bit. It's 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.240 kind of like, oh, another one, you know, Like if 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:40.679 one girl came want me in the club, I'm like, oh, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.240 like this is mad, going to have nice to meet you, whatever. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.720 But if you've got hundreds of them, especially your festivals 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.960 and stuff like, it just gets boring because it's just 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.800 the same conversation over and over again, you know. And 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.040 my type I usually like the proper hot ones, the glamours, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.760 you know, the makeup, the eyelashes, the heels, you know, 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.280 the designer, all that sort of stuff, and nine times 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.920 out of ten they actually haven't got really much anything 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.719 good to say really, you know what I mean. It's 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.160 the midpar birds under the fun ones that you know 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:07.520 are just the best time. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:08.680 It's always the mids. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.360 Yeah, you can set you can, you can have fun 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.480 with the glamour, but if you want to set book, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.120 it's going to have to be a mid range bird. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.600 I think you have a lot to thank to Alex 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.800 Mevrodikers who cast you in Love Island, Australia, and he's 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.280 been quite instrumental in your career. Like I think he 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.800 could have it in his contract that every show he 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.040 does he gets callum hole because he got you into 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.520 Love got you into I'm to get me out of here. Yeah, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.560 so was another hard gig to get. How quickly did 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.480 you know that you were going to get moved into 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.400 o celebrity after your Love Island Australia fame. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.640 So it's actually a good question because every show I've done, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.080 within the space of two or three weeks after the 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.120 show's finished, I've already had shows reach out to me away. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.000 So that's how I've never really had to go back 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.000 to work or how to do like any sort of 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.640 influence and stuff, because I've been fortunate enough that, like 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:02.240 my Love Island Australia show finished in two weeks, I 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.840 had contracts through for Love Alan Games, and then once 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.160 Love Alan Games have finished, it was like less than 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.360 a month before I'm a celebrity in the pipeline I finished, 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.720 I'm a celebrity. I had two weeks to pack my 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.200 case and go to Carns for Rosie show. So it's 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.320 always it's always a show in the pipeline. And this year, yeah, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.160 thanks to Alex, I have got I've got a lot 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.240 of shows in the pipeline. So I'm looking forward to 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.760 having a good year this year. My dad in TV worlds, 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.439 you know what I mean, He's always there me, He's 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.520 always there I need a phone call or a chat. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.360 And you know, I see him as not only like 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.840 a good good friend, but yeah, I'm so grateful for 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:35.800 for I think he's done for me. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.440 Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. Like he's like 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.560 the godfather of reality TV in Australia. And it's interesting 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.280 because you can't trust a producer. However, I get the 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.079 phone call often from celebrities being asked to do I'm 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.400 a celebrity, and I say, is Alex Mavdike still there? 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.360 If he's still there, you'll be okay. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.839 If you look after him, he look after you. And 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.480 if you make good TV, obviously you're helping his job career. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.240 So he likes people that make good TV because it's 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.360 a win win for both people. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:05.280 You know, both parties. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.640 Did they get you too quickly to do Bozzie? Sure? 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.679 Because you know I was watching tonight's episode like this 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.960 podcast will drop today, your episode will drop today, and 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.400 I picked up on something Did you arrive a little 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.079 rough and ready? 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:18.920 Oh my god? 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.959 Yeah, I mean, I didn't have much time from The Jungle, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.360 which was one of the hardest experiences of my life, 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.840 to going into one of the wildest experiences of my life. Like, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:31.320 I wasn't prepared physically mentally, I was pretty tired. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.440 You know that The Jungle is a taxing show, and 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.080 usually before a show, I like to prepare. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.520 I had to get you outfits, you know, I had 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.480 to feel good, train and then coin their hot So 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.480 I did have to put a bit of a front 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.360 on to you know, bring the energy. But inside I 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.199 was I was a bit tired, you know. But when 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.240 you're around that sort of environment with people having fun 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.199 and everyone's got big personalities, it's kind of easier. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.720 To just get energized and get amongst it. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.800 So I'm lucky in that sense that a lot of 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.640 those lot you know, did pull me through. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.480 But it was a hard show to do. Yeah, for sure. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.600 I was with my partner and he was like, oh, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.840 Hellun's obviously had a big night the night before this, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.760 and I was like, well, I do know from insiders 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.719 that he has come straight from one show to the other. 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.120 So I said to my partner, Alum, kind of looks like, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.120 you know, the cat that someone forgot to feed while 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:14.439 they went away on a Christmas break. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.760 You know, literally that was literally me, and obviously coming 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.040 off the show like I'm a seventy, I did want 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.200 to celebrate as well, you know, like for me that 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.719 was like a big success, you know, thinking I. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.040 Was all going to last like a week and there 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.160 and then get into the end again. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:27.480 I was. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:27.840 I was. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.640 I was happy, and I wanted to celebrate with my 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.520 friends and family and stuff. So I definitely had a 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.720 few few nights out even if I was hired. So 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:34.880 then when I had to call up for this, I 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:35.839 was like, oh my god, I need to get my 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.320 shit together because I got to film a new show. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.280 But that's why I said yes to only one episode. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.360 Yeah I got yeah, there's a few. So like you 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.320 said yes to one episode, but the next minute they 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.560 couldn't deal without you. So you turn up on this show, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.520 right and you did you clear your date calendar? Did 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:50.959 you bring all the girls that you were sort of 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.319 seeing on the side at that particular point of your 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.960 life and tell them ps, I'm putting you on pause 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.720 because I'm going on this dating show, or did you 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.040 leave some women hanging? 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:00.720 What was the same I left. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.800 I just went could Turkey because with draws always makes 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.160 the heart grow fonder miss me in it, So they 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:08.559 knew I was the way working. They couldn't get in 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.280 contact me anyway, so they won't be missing me. But 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.480 the fact they're pondering in their head why is the 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.120 replying or where is he just makes them even more 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.839 keen in it. So when they get that message as 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.600 they get at the house, fucks on in it. It's 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:19.400 on like a jump scump. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.200 Most people, if you ghost someone, they hate you forever callum. 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.400 But you go some and they're literally sitting at home 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.840 knitting like little beanies for you, waiting for you to 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.720 come home. I don't know where You're not on the door, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.480 so you arrived. How much did you know about what 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.000 was happening between sort of the love triangle that you 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.520 get yourself involved in because Tom, Lexi and Lily have 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.200 a storyline that's been going on this whole season and 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.840 then you basically turn up like a party popper. Did 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.680 you try and listen to what was going on? Or 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.560 did you just calum it up and just sort of 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.280 just roll and not really take too much notice of 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:52.520 what was happening around you. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.640 Yeah, I just I just I wanted to go in 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:55.040 there blind. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.840 Obviously, the producers did ask me if I wanted to 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.280 know what sort of the storyline was or like, you know, 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.480 what was happening in the show. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:02.560 I wasn't bothered. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.760 I said, just tell me who the birthday girl is 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.080 so I know who to give the cake to and 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.880 let me do my thing. And I'd rather that because 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.840 if I go in there to mindself, like oh, they've 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.120 been seeing each other or is a bit of a flinger, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.240 it might make me make different decisions. I'd rather go 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.560 in hot and just make the decisions that I want 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.280 to make, because at the end of the day, I'm 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.040 not afraid to step on people's toes, especially when I'm 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.840 like an intruder, like I've got more loyalties. They might 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.080 have more loyalties because they've been, you know, in there 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:30.320 for longer period together. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.640 But for me, I'm just an intruder and in my. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.000 Head, I'm only there for one night, so I only 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.560 cause chaos on that first night. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:36.560 That's exactly what I did. 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.440 But is it hard to turn up on a show, because, 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.400 like you know, I was talking about this with Denise 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.800 Streisdale about how hard it was to turn up and 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.680 I'm a celebrity late because like, when I spoke to Denise, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.400 she's a good family friend of mine, she said I 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.680 should never have come in so like because it was 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.440 too hard to infiltrate the group. And she said, yeah, 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.520 she really made friends with you and Sky, who both 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.560