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Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Callum Hole
Speaker 1: who joins me to talk about all things Ozsie Shaw,
Speaker 1: which is now out on Paramount Plus. I actually came
Speaker 1: across Callum like many Australians, when he featured on Love
Speaker 1: Island Australia a couple of years back. I had been
Speaker 1: warned he was excellent TV while the show was in
Speaker 1: early production and have been kind of obsessed with him
Speaker 1: ever since. He was fantastic and I'm a celebrity, get
Speaker 1: me out of here. He's a real treat as well
Speaker 1: in Ossie Shaw, and I think that there's plenty more
Speaker 1: to come in watching his career continuing to take off.
Speaker 1: Callum will talk about how he manages all of these
Speaker 1: dating shows and if he needs to be single to
Speaker 1: keep his brand active. We will unpack the dynamics and
Speaker 1: Ossie Shaw and if producers filled him in on the
Speaker 1: storylines before being dropped in late to the show. I
Speaker 1: will discuss his upcoming projects and if there is any
Speaker 1: more TV in the works, and maybe he will tease
Speaker 1: us with some of that that's coming up. You will
Speaker 1: get everything from a discussion on his friendship with Denise Drysdale,
Speaker 1: managing his vain, and some insights into the current state
Speaker 1: of play amongst the cast of Ossie Shaw. There's actually
Speaker 1: so much to talk about, with so many inside revelations.
Speaker 1: So guys, sit back and relax as we unpack the
Speaker 1: wonderful world of Ossie Shaw. I'm doing really well. You're
Speaker 1: looking very fresh yourself. Did you get a good night's
Speaker 1: sleep before today?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did actually, but as a bit of conceding on
Speaker 3: that as well, I have the a lot of travel
Speaker 3: in the last couple of months, so I'm a bit drained,
Speaker 3: to be fair, So sometimes I get a bit of
Speaker 3: concealed under the eyes paying in it. You know.
Speaker 1: It's really funny is that for the last ten years
Speaker 1: I've not done any form of like injectables or anything
Speaker 1: to try and maintain my age. And I did this
Speaker 1: recently when I was on the Gold Coast, and now
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was always worried if I did
Speaker 1: something to my face that I wouldn't look like me,
Speaker 1: that I'd look like one of those had a lot
Speaker 1: of work done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean do you
Speaker 1: get a lot of pressure to have that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff done?
Speaker 2: Well? Not really really.
Speaker 3: I mean I have thought about having some like Bolg
Speaker 3: talks put in my head because apparently prevention is key,
Speaker 3: But again, I don't think I need it just yet.
Speaker 2: Maybe another year and I'll be banged in me.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking pretty fit. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you this right now. Honestly, I wasn't leading to saying
Speaker 1: you need work, Just so you know, I want to
Speaker 1: say congratulations on your success here in Australia, like you
Speaker 1: have taken Australia by storms since doing Love Island Australia.
Speaker 1: How does it feel to become so popular in a
Speaker 1: country that's sort of not your born country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually it's actually a really surreal feeling. And
Speaker 3: I you know, I pinched myself, you know, very often,
Speaker 3: and it's almost like I'm living in like a fake
Speaker 3: world at the moment, you know, because I've never in
Speaker 3: a million years thought that i'd be having the like
Speaker 3: the lifestyle that I'm actually having now. It's yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's the best, but obviously, like everything, it's got its
Speaker 3: ups and downs, you know, like it does require a
Speaker 3: lot of travel and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But I always compare myself to you.
Speaker 3: Know, my old jobs when I was working like a
Speaker 3: nine to five and that's sort of thing, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'd rather cash flights every single day than do anything
Speaker 3: like that. So I'm so grateful, and you know, without
Speaker 3: the people that are by my fans, and I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be where I am today, you know, continue to do
Speaker 3: TV shows.
Speaker 2: So h that's definitely like my home from home.
Speaker 1: Bob with the nine to five jobs. I kind of
Speaker 1: imagine you working at my work. If you were working
Speaker 1: at my work and I saw you walk past and
Speaker 1: you were going to the xerox machine or whatever, I
Speaker 1: might lose my shit. I'd be like, that's really too
Speaker 1: ready to work here, Get him out of here.
Speaker 2: I've done all sorts of jobs, honestly.
Speaker 3: I've worked in gym's, personal training, sales, reception jobs. I've
Speaker 3: been a fruit cutter. I've worked in paintball arenas like
Speaker 3: you name it. I've probably done it, but I've probably
Speaker 3: last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Is that because you don't go to work the next day,
Speaker 1: you get to thirsty Thursday and you go out for
Speaker 1: a big that on Thursday and not return.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think sometimes I struggle to be
Speaker 3: told what to do, and I have rules in place,
Speaker 3: so like if I'm told to be somewhere at a
Speaker 3: certain time, like for example, most days, you know, if
Speaker 3: I was to rock up a little bit later from work,
Speaker 3: I could be in the car going to work, and
Speaker 3: I could be ten minutes late. I just stop in
Speaker 3: a coffee shop for an hour or two, because I'm like,
Speaker 3: in my head, if I'm going to be lit, i
Speaker 3: might as well be properly and I'm still gonna get
Speaker 3: in trouble either way. Things like that just get get
Speaker 3: the wrong side of the bosses in there, so I
Speaker 3: just end up losing my jobs in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I did a reality show and they had to
Speaker 1: have a secret before you went in, and my secret
Speaker 1: was that I was fired from every job that I'd
Speaker 1: ever had. And people were like, but you look like
Speaker 1: like a normal person, Like you don't look like I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what a person who what a person
Speaker 1: who gets fired all the time looks like. But clearly
Speaker 1: it wasn't me. But it was because I was not
Speaker 1: able to follow simple things like you know, getting to
Speaker 1: work on time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the other things.
Speaker 3: And you're right in the sense that like obviously being
Speaker 3: a younger through a party goer and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You know, like you know, I'm never going to rock
Speaker 3: up to a Sunday shift and I always accept them,
Speaker 3: but I'm never going to be there.
Speaker 2: It's more for than then putting me on the rock stack,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We've done like five seasons of Love Island Australia. We've
Speaker 1: got a season on right now, and there's been so
Speaker 1: many people that have been Islanders, you know, have gone
Speaker 1: into the villas, but you have stood out amongst everybody.
Speaker 1: I want to know more about your ex spectation of
Speaker 1: going on this show. Did you just think you were
Speaker 1: going to go on the show and find a bird
Speaker 1: and settle down or did you have some kind of
Speaker 1: idea that this might be a porthal to the dimension
Speaker 1: that you're now living in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you go in there with an open
Speaker 3: mind because obviously it is it is a dating show,
Speaker 3: and you have to go in there with the mindset
Speaker 3: of being open to date some day.
Speaker 2: So yes, one Dre and when I went in there.
Speaker 3: I was like open to dating and opening open to
Speaker 3: meet some day because they asked me a few years
Speaker 3: in the row and I declined it because I was like,
Speaker 3: why would I go on Love Island. I'm going to
Speaker 3: be saying good, I'm in Australia, so the best country
Speaker 3: in the world, Like I'm not going to settle down.
Speaker 3: Then all the time I was like, I think it
Speaker 3: was like second or third year. I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I'll do it, I'll chust it out. And
Speaker 3: I remember going in there and the first week was
Speaker 3: an absolutely mad nuts because I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll put my fingers and all the pies and I
Speaker 3: was made that girl and it's mad. But then I
Speaker 3: met somebody pretty early on called Leila. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you remember week two to week three, and that
Speaker 3: was the most boring week that I've had, you know,
Speaker 3: because I was like, I wake up, how breakfast to
Speaker 3: day that you know we tanned together? Then we have
Speaker 3: did that together, and then we grew up. Like no
Speaker 3: before that was mad because I was just going everywhere.
Speaker 3: So as soon as later left, I was back to
Speaker 3: like being single in it again, and that's when I
Speaker 3: started having fun against Then I think I learned that
Speaker 3: you know what, I should be single because I have
Speaker 3: more fun.
Speaker 1: It is funny that people call you the love rant,
Speaker 1: like when you did I'm a celebrity, they're like love rant.
Speaker 1: But I actually, from what we can say on television
Speaker 1: Callum dating, I actually think you do it quite well.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think there's anything ratty about it at all.
Speaker 1: You're pretty much not already had a good time. Did
Speaker 1: you have a good time? See you later? Here's my yeah,
Speaker 1: told me.
Speaker 2: I think I think that's how how I got it.
Speaker 3: I got kind of got away with it because it's
Speaker 3: like I remember, even on my first level, and I
Speaker 3: think I'd said something to Claudia.
Speaker 2: I said something along the lines of.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not I'm not datable, don't I'm not eve
Speaker 3: nere to try and date, so don't try and date me.
Speaker 3: And then she ran off to all the girls, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to be like, oh, Calum said this, you know,
Speaker 3: stay away from him. Then the girls were like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's already told us, So as long as I'm honest
Speaker 3: and transparent, and I tell the girls exactly what they
Speaker 3: get himself into. If they do it again heartbroken, then
Speaker 3: that's on them. But it's not guilt on my chest
Speaker 3: because I said it as it isn't start. I know,
Speaker 3: I'm not like misleading them or or you know, promising
Speaker 3: them the world. If you're not fun, I'm your guy.
Speaker 2: But if you want like marriage and kids, you have
Speaker 2: to look some rest, Stalin.
Speaker 1: Is that how it is for you now? Because like
Speaker 1: I was out on the Gold Coast at the opening
Speaker 1: of Juju, and I actually felt like it was like
Speaker 1: a live version of a dating show because I was
Speaker 1: watching you there and the sky was there, and people
Speaker 1: were rumoring. People were saying that you're floating with her,
Speaker 1: I think you'll go there or whoever the bird was
Speaker 1: that you were saying for that night, and then there
Speaker 1: was the rest of the club and I was like
Speaker 1: watching someone date the whole club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. It does get like that.
Speaker 3: You know. It's kind of like it's almost like a
Speaker 3: covey about the birds, you know what I mean. Whatever
Speaker 3: I go, I just got a line up pretty much
Speaker 3: like it's it is. It is a madness. And when
Speaker 3: I go to my friends, they're like, how would you
Speaker 3: do it? I'm like, it does feel like word, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But that's why I have started
Speaker 3: seeing some bird for a couple of months now, and
Speaker 3: it's been going good because it's like when I go out,
Speaker 3: I just couldn't just relax, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I.
Speaker 3: Need to rise up all these birds all night long,
Speaker 3: you know, because I know, like there might be a
Speaker 3: couple of burgers in the club, but I I got
Speaker 3: a stick a whole minute.
Speaker 2: I mean, so I'm starting to change my way to
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: But I'm definitely not like marriage material or anything like
Speaker 3: that yet, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I think of you with like a Ken and Bobby Doll.
Speaker 2: This girl.
Speaker 1: Please don't take this to any sort of offense. But
Speaker 1: it's almost like everyone gets a chance to play with Ken,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like I don't want
Speaker 1: you to settle down because there's all these bobbies out
Speaker 1: there that still want to have a turn, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But it's like it's like when everyone wants
Speaker 3: what they can't have, right, That's the way I look
Speaker 3: at it. And you know, when I was younger and
Speaker 3: I started going out or started you know, meeting girls,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's so good, you know, because
Speaker 3: you know, met this girl or going on a date
Speaker 3: with this girl. But now because they're just so accessible,
Speaker 3: it kind of like puts me off a bit. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like, oh, another one, you know, Like if
Speaker 3: one girl came want me in the club, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: like this is mad, going to have nice to meet you, whatever.
Speaker 3: But if you've got hundreds of them, especially your festivals
Speaker 3: and stuff like, it just gets boring because it's just
Speaker 3: the same conversation over and over again, you know. And
Speaker 3: my type I usually like the proper hot ones, the glamours,
Speaker 3: you know, the makeup, the eyelashes, the heels, you know,
Speaker 3: the designer, all that sort of stuff, and nine times
Speaker 3: out of ten they actually haven't got really much anything
Speaker 3: good to say really, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: the midpar birds under the fun ones that you know
Speaker 3: are just the best time.
Speaker 1: It's always the mids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can set you can, you can have fun
Speaker 3: with the glamour, but if you want to set book,
Speaker 3: it's going to have to be a mid range bird.
Speaker 1: I think you have a lot to thank to Alex
Speaker 1: Mevrodikers who cast you in Love Island, Australia, and he's
Speaker 1: been quite instrumental in your career. Like I think he
Speaker 1: could have it in his contract that every show he
Speaker 1: does he gets callum hole because he got you into
Speaker 1: Love got you into I'm to get me out of here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so was another hard gig to get. How quickly did
Speaker 1: you know that you were going to get moved into
Speaker 1: o celebrity after your Love Island Australia fame.
Speaker 3: So it's actually a good question because every show I've done,
Speaker 3: within the space of two or three weeks after the
Speaker 3: show's finished, I've already had shows reach out to me away.
Speaker 3: So that's how I've never really had to go back
Speaker 3: to work or how to do like any sort of
Speaker 3: influence and stuff, because I've been fortunate enough that, like
Speaker 3: my Love Island Australia show finished in two weeks, I
Speaker 3: had contracts through for Love Alan Games, and then once
Speaker 3: Love Alan Games have finished, it was like less than
Speaker 3: a month before I'm a celebrity in the pipeline I finished,
Speaker 3: I'm a celebrity. I had two weeks to pack my
Speaker 3: case and go to Carns for Rosie show. So it's
Speaker 3: always it's always a show in the pipeline. And this year, yeah,
Speaker 3: thanks to Alex, I have got I've got a lot
Speaker 3: of shows in the pipeline. So I'm looking forward to
Speaker 3: having a good year this year. My dad in TV worlds,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, He's always there me, He's
Speaker 3: always there I need a phone call or a chat.
Speaker 3: And you know, I see him as not only like
Speaker 3: a good good friend, but yeah, I'm so grateful for
Speaker 3: for I think he's done for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. Like he's like
Speaker 1: the godfather of reality TV in Australia. And it's interesting
Speaker 1: because you can't trust a producer. However, I get the
Speaker 1: phone call often from celebrities being asked to do I'm
Speaker 1: a celebrity, and I say, is Alex Mavdike still there?
Speaker 1: If he's still there, you'll be okay.
Speaker 2: If you look after him, he look after you. And
Speaker 2: if you make good TV, obviously you're helping his job career.
Speaker 3: So he likes people that make good TV because it's
Speaker 3: a win win for both people.
Speaker 2: You know, both parties.
Speaker 1: Did they get you too quickly to do Bozzie? Sure?
Speaker 1: Because you know I was watching tonight's episode like this
Speaker 1: podcast will drop today, your episode will drop today, and
Speaker 1: I picked up on something Did you arrive a little
Speaker 1: rough and ready?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I didn't have much time from The Jungle,
Speaker 3: which was one of the hardest experiences of my life,
Speaker 3: to going into one of the wildest experiences of my life. Like,
Speaker 3: I wasn't prepared physically mentally, I was pretty tired.
Speaker 2: You know that The Jungle is a taxing show, and
Speaker 2: usually before a show, I like to prepare.
Speaker 3: I had to get you outfits, you know, I had
Speaker 3: to feel good, train and then coin their hot So
Speaker 3: I did have to put a bit of a front
Speaker 3: on to you know, bring the energy. But inside I
Speaker 3: was I was a bit tired, you know. But when
Speaker 3: you're around that sort of environment with people having fun
Speaker 3: and everyone's got big personalities, it's kind of easier.
Speaker 2: To just get energized and get amongst it.
Speaker 3: So I'm lucky in that sense that a lot of
Speaker 3: those lot you know, did pull me through.
Speaker 2: But it was a hard show to do. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I was with my partner and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Hellun's obviously had a big night the night before this,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I do know from insiders
Speaker 1: that he has come straight from one show to the other.
Speaker 1: So I said to my partner, Alum, kind of looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, the cat that someone forgot to feed while
Speaker 1: they went away on a Christmas break.
Speaker 3: You know, literally that was literally me, and obviously coming
Speaker 3: off the show like I'm a seventy, I did want
Speaker 3: to celebrate as well, you know, like for me that
Speaker 3: was like a big success, you know, thinking I.
Speaker 2: Was all going to last like a week and there
Speaker 2: and then get into the end again.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was happy, and I wanted to celebrate with my
Speaker 3: friends and family and stuff. So I definitely had a
Speaker 3: few few nights out even if I was hired. So
Speaker 3: then when I had to call up for this, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I need to get my
Speaker 3: shit together because I got to film a new show.
Speaker 2: But that's why I said yes to only one episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah I got yeah, there's a few. So like you
Speaker 1: said yes to one episode, but the next minute they
Speaker 1: couldn't deal without you. So you turn up on this show,
Speaker 1: right and you did you clear your date calendar? Did
Speaker 1: you bring all the girls that you were sort of
Speaker 1: seeing on the side at that particular point of your
Speaker 1: life and tell them ps, I'm putting you on pause
Speaker 1: because I'm going on this dating show, or did you
Speaker 1: leave some women hanging?
Speaker 2: What was the same I left.
Speaker 3: I just went could Turkey because with draws always makes
Speaker 3: the heart grow fonder miss me in it, So they
Speaker 3: knew I was the way working. They couldn't get in
Speaker 3: contact me anyway, so they won't be missing me. But
Speaker 3: the fact they're pondering in their head why is the
Speaker 3: replying or where is he just makes them even more
Speaker 3: keen in it. So when they get that message as
Speaker 3: they get at the house, fucks on in it. It's
Speaker 3: on like a jump scump.
Speaker 1: Most people, if you ghost someone, they hate you forever callum.
Speaker 1: But you go some and they're literally sitting at home
Speaker 1: knitting like little beanies for you, waiting for you to
Speaker 1: come home. I don't know where You're not on the door,
Speaker 1: so you arrived. How much did you know about what
Speaker 1: was happening between sort of the love triangle that you
Speaker 1: get yourself involved in because Tom, Lexi and Lily have
Speaker 1: a storyline that's been going on this whole season and
Speaker 1: then you basically turn up like a party popper. Did
Speaker 1: you try and listen to what was going on? Or
Speaker 1: did you just calum it up and just sort of
Speaker 1: just roll and not really take too much notice of
Speaker 1: what was happening around you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just I wanted to go in
Speaker 2: there blind.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the producers did ask me if I wanted to
Speaker 3: know what sort of the storyline was or like, you know,
Speaker 3: what was happening in the show.
Speaker 2: I wasn't bothered.
Speaker 3: I said, just tell me who the birthday girl is
Speaker 3: so I know who to give the cake to and
Speaker 3: let me do my thing. And I'd rather that because
Speaker 3: if I go in there to mindself, like oh, they've
Speaker 3: been seeing each other or is a bit of a flinger,
Speaker 3: it might make me make different decisions. I'd rather go
Speaker 3: in hot and just make the decisions that I want
Speaker 3: to make, because at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 3: not afraid to step on people's toes, especially when I'm
Speaker 3: like an intruder, like I've got more loyalties. They might
Speaker 3: have more loyalties because they've been, you know, in there
Speaker 3: for longer period together.
Speaker 2: But for me, I'm just an intruder and in my.
Speaker 3: Head, I'm only there for one night, so I only
Speaker 3: cause chaos on that first night.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1: But is it hard to turn up on a show, because,
Speaker 1: like you know, I was talking about this with Denise
Speaker 1: Streisdale about how hard it was to turn up and
Speaker 1: I'm a celebrity late because like, when I spoke to Denise,
Speaker 1: she's a good family friend of mine, she said I
Speaker 1: should never have come in so like because it was
Speaker 1: too hard to infiltrate the group. And she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: she really made friends with you and Sky, who both
Speaker 1: were really open to the friendship, where the rest of
Speaker 1: them are like squirrels that are worked out how to
Speaker 1: live in a you know, in a nut tal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's set in their ways.
Speaker 1: They were like they were like get away. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't care that she was TV royalty. Well for
Speaker 1: you, you kind of are TV royalty now, but it's still
Speaker 1: you're arriving late in a show with some of they
Speaker 1: trying to ask you out. Were you being treated unfairly?
Speaker 3: Nah, there was no, There was none of that. I'm
Speaker 3: so so grateful thought for everyone in the show. You know,
Speaker 3: they welcomed me with open arms. I will be on
Speaker 3: as cat. Yeah, obviously did kick up a bit of
Speaker 3: a stink on her birthday night because she was obviously
Speaker 3: they drunk, and you know, she wanted all the attention
Speaker 3: on her to her birthday, to her big day and
Speaker 3: I've come in there and none of the birds are
Speaker 3: really bothered as cat his birthda anymore. And that I mean,
Speaker 3: so I do understand that point of view. But then quickly,
Speaker 3: you know, we we have got a chat. And you
Speaker 3: know she also opened me with welcome arms, So I
Speaker 3: think that's another reason why I was more inclining to stay,
Speaker 3: because everyone was so nice in the show. So yeah,
Speaker 3: a touch would that that always happens if I'm ever
Speaker 3: intruder again, you.
Speaker 1: Know, well just a quick side step back to that
Speaker 1: Denise thing. Are you still catching up at Denise? Because
Speaker 1: she still cook you with like a rose chicken every
Speaker 1: now and again.
Speaker 3: She always asked me to go for a cup of
Speaker 3: tea but ends up being champagne. And even if it's
Speaker 3: up to midday on a Monday or a Tuesday, it's
Speaker 3: still champagne o'clock.
Speaker 2: So I do try to count.
Speaker 3: Back, but it's hard because I'm constantly on the road,
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm traveling. I'm probably catching so something
Speaker 3: some cushing like ten flights a week. I'm just always
Speaker 3: in the air. I'm packing unpacking, so I'm never in
Speaker 3: one spot for too long. But if I do get
Speaker 3: some downtime and I'm in the gold course. I always
Speaker 3: shoot at a message and try to catch up, even
Speaker 3: if it's just for a quick champagne.
Speaker 1: It's always a quick champagne. But you know with today's
Speaker 1: it's never a quick champagne. Like it's always yeah, it's twenty.
Speaker 1: I've got to stay the next I can't drive home. Obviously,
Speaker 1: going to be doing a lot of tours, I would say,
Speaker 1: because the clubs around Australia would be foolish not to
Speaker 1: capitalize in on this Aussie Shaw phenomenon. Yeah, you to
Speaker 1: turn up with some of the cast when you tour
Speaker 1: with the cast, Is there some drama that you're taking
Speaker 1: with you or are you all family with all family?
Speaker 2: With all family?
Speaker 3: Obviously we've we've done a little little bit of press
Speaker 3: work and stuff together, you know, in various cities, and
Speaker 3: like obviously they're all a lot close with each other
Speaker 3: than I am. But I get a sort of insight
Speaker 3: to what they're like when I do do the press
Speaker 3: stuff with them, and like most of them, the cook
Speaker 3: up with each other and stuff like it's mad, Like
Speaker 3: it's more drama off the should than it is on
Speaker 3: the should.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I can't keep up.
Speaker 3: Every time I catch up with them, one of them
Speaker 3: is like lips and up the other one like I'm like,
Speaker 3: what was last week you with this one?
Speaker 2: No, you're this one.
Speaker 3: So it's yeah, it's mad. It's like a family, but
Speaker 3: it's some I don't really like to call her a family.
Speaker 3: Someone's a bit ancestrial to me, to be honest.
Speaker 1: You're not the first person that's told me that. They're like,
Speaker 1: what's the deal with them all calling each other the family?
Speaker 1: They're all rooting each other, Like this is like a
Speaker 1: family you know that don't understand, like Dingo's that root
Speaker 1: themselves probably don't know about about Dingos. I kind of
Speaker 1: have to let you go, which is really frustrating. I
Speaker 1: hope everyone watches Ossie Shaw because for me, I was
Speaker 1: a little bit scared of it. I was like, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm too old, maybe it'll be too rude. But I
Speaker 1: have been really obsessed with it. To be honest, I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of fun. I think you need
Speaker 1: to check your brain at the door a little bit
Speaker 1: and joy it for what it is. I think that's
Speaker 1: such a part of it. Understand Afraid of rude words,
Speaker 1: maybe just watch the show with the sound turned down
Speaker 1: because everyone's so pretty.
Speaker 3: Every second word is a rude word. We're all having
Speaker 3: fun and that's right, That's what it's about my next So.
Speaker 1: I don't know you was ever being a swearer though,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's funny.
Speaker 2: I know, I know that.
Speaker 1: I've worked with you al say the same thing. They're
Speaker 1: all like, you know, what's interesting about Callum is that
Speaker 1: he's really well mannered, and so seeing you swear on
Speaker 1: Ossie Shaw seems really kind of naughty. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like a wild swearing somehow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think a lot of that comes down
Speaker 3: to like the environment that you're in, right, Like, just
Speaker 3: surrounded by everyone constantly swearing, You're gonna be more inclined
Speaker 3: to swear, you know. So it's just I guess reading
Speaker 3: the room, and I read that room, and I knew
Speaker 3: that she needed mental So that's what I did.
Speaker 1: Well. The last question I ask everyone who joins the pot
Speaker 1: is really quick, which is what if something from behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, something that we as an audience wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: And I kind of have a question for you. Now
Speaker 1: there's a lot of discussion about your next show. Can
Speaker 1: you talk to me about or couldn't you give me
Speaker 1: a clue as to what's coming up. I've heard too
Speaker 1: Hot to Handle, and then I've also heard you've signed
Speaker 1: a contract with with Westfield. I've also been told that
Speaker 1: you secretly dating Sky on the side. I've also been
Speaker 1: told that you're getting married. So look, there's a lot
Speaker 1: out there. Can you tell me about what's happening in
Speaker 1: Callum Hole's world next?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of shows coming up. But one
Speaker 3: thing I would say is a mixture. It's a good variety.
Speaker 3: It's not just my traditional sort of dating party in shows.
Speaker 3: There are there are some other sort of family orientate
Speaker 3: in shows as well, which is exciting.
Speaker 2: So I've got a balance this year.
Speaker 1: How the hell are you going to do dating shows
Speaker 1: if you've got a girlfriend at the moment. That's what
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Understand across that bridge when we come to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's just hope you girlfriends not listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast, because I'm pretty sure you've just got broken
Speaker 1: up with at them and many driver style. Callum. Can
Speaker 1: I just say I am such a fan of you
Speaker 1: as a person. I think you're a very genuine I
Speaker 1: think you're a very honest person. I love your enthusiasm
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to someone see where you take
Speaker 1: the evolution of your TV career because I'm here in
Speaker 1: your audience and I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, then I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Que