WEBVTT - Call it Daddy issues - Attachment Theory

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura and I'm Brittany. Hi, Brittany, how you going.

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<v Speaker 1>Brennie's very tired. She didn't get to bed until four

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<v Speaker 1>am last night, guys. And now it's Monday morning and

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<v Speaker 1>we're bringing you the episode. Now. I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to think I was out going wild, because I totally

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<v Speaker 1>was not her in her single life. Just can't get

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<v Speaker 1>home in a Sunday night. No. I started filming a

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<v Speaker 1>new film, just like a really small role in the

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<v Speaker 1>Speature film. But it literally ran so far over the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to finish at about eleven PM, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was four am and I was still doing scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I have to get up in

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<v Speaker 1>four hours to record a podcast. I need to go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed. So Britte is so far beyond the point

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<v Speaker 1>of tie that she actually looks high right now. She's

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<v Speaker 1>great for everyone. We're gonna bring you some solid content today.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt. I promised. You know, when you wake up

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<v Speaker 1>tired and you feel hungover, I haven't had a drink

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<v Speaker 1>in in ages. I haven't had been drinking at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Thank you, guys. I'm sure, you're really patting

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<v Speaker 1>me on the back right now, but I feel hung over,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry. Whilst you're running me off. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>you guys could see the state or Laura. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>have felt hungover for an entire fucking year because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a one year old and right now I look

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the point in case. The point in case, yeah whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up at six. I woke up at six

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<v Speaker 1>this morning with Marley, and I haven't showered or brushed

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<v Speaker 1>my hair or done anything yet because I don't exist

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<v Speaker 1>as a person anymore and everything I do is to

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<v Speaker 1>keep one year old alive. So this is yeah, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>they took a dark, dark turn. Anyway, here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>How was your week. I haven't seen you in a

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<v Speaker 1>few days because you went on a vacation. I spent

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<v Speaker 1>one night at a at a hotel, which definitely felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I went on a vacation. I have had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty uneventful week except for Saturday. I spent Saturday helping

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<v Speaker 1>Matt shoot some content where he spent the entire day

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in drag, So I was like, that's mommonian, Why

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<v Speaker 1>hang on? What do I feel like every second week?

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's dresses a woman. Well, I think it's a fetish,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, There's got to be something in that

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<v Speaker 1>because he's always like, hey, babe, I have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>for a video. I'll dress as a woman. Yeah, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you follow my Instagram or Matt's Instagram, you would

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<v Speaker 1>know that this seems to be a running theme. I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually at work on Thursday, and often when Matt

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<v Speaker 1>calls me and I'm at the office, I put him

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<v Speaker 1>on the loudspeaker, and so it was just because then

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<v Speaker 1>I can have my hands free and I can do

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<v Speaker 1>work whilst he's talking. Anyway, I had him on my

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<v Speaker 1>outh speaker and two of my employees were in the

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<v Speaker 1>office sitting at their desks, and Matt goes, oh, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>I I need some of your clothes that I can

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<v Speaker 1>wear for Saturday. I was like, okay, well, I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to find something tonight because I don't want you stretching

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<v Speaker 1>my clothes. And he goes, well, what about that dress

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<v Speaker 1>of yours? I sometimes wear both my stuff, which is like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is going on? That makes it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like he just walks around the house for fundsies in

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<v Speaker 1>your clothes, which he does, doesn't He totally? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is a completely normal conversation that we

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<v Speaker 1>have often. But the funny thing is it is probably

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<v Speaker 1>normal to you. You're like, oh, I know that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just cleaned it for your honey. Yeah. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Grace Loves Lace six hundred dollars dress that

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<v Speaker 1>you like to put on. No problem, I'll pull it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the wardrobe for you. He's like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>love to feel a bit at my skin really really

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<v Speaker 1>defines his silhouette. Anyway, I'm all here for it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's his cank and he wants to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>he can pretend it's for social media. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, and I'm here for it. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>support that man to the day and die. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>do anything for you seeing him dressed in Grace Loves Lace, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>considering the fact that our sex life has rapidly declined

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<v Speaker 1>in the last year, potentially not. I heard you almost

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<v Speaker 1>had sex on the weekend, So Matt told me. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really great to almost have sex. No, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Matt was like, please don't talk about me

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in drag on your podcast. Why don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the fact that we almost had sex? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I'll talk about that as well,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll do boats. So that was a big overshare.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't it didn't quite happen. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep sharing like we're good the end. Anyway, how about

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor, no brand? How about your week? Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what's been having to go in your life? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I could cry. I'm so tired. I actually don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to tell you. I have two I have two

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<v Speaker 1>mishaps in my you know how. Sometimes actually it's happened

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<v Speaker 1>quite a lot. I write an email and I do

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<v Speaker 1>it too quickly, and I don't look at what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying in auto creaks and I send it. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>the time I sent an email to my entire department

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<v Speaker 1>saying kind retards Laura Burn. Yeah, so I did that twice,

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<v Speaker 1>two different people for the same day. Firstly, one was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to say hey Jesse, and I wrote, Hey, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>I sent you the shining Light Jesse, you surely are

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<v Speaker 1>the savior that we all need. I actually don't know

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<v Speaker 1>which one's worse. You'll have to tell me. So I said, hey, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>And then later on that day, I went to say

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<v Speaker 1>hey lovely, because I often will do that if I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of know the person, Hey lovely, and I wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>hay lonely, she's probably dopally she hasn't gone through a

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<v Speaker 1>break up recently. I reckon that, hey lonely. If someone

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that to me, I'd probably just go and lock

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<v Speaker 1>myself in my room with a double of ice cream.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm imagining if somebody wrote that to you, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the icing on the cake that set me

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<v Speaker 1>into a stage four breakdown. It would be I'm ready,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like talking through what happened. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it started with an auto correction, and do we have

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<v Speaker 1>any dating stories for me this week? I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>really pry into your personal life since we all know

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<v Speaker 1>too much about mine. Right, So I went on a

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<v Speaker 1>walking date. We're on a walking date with a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't really think it through much. It was

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<v Speaker 1>online and spoken to him really briefly. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to people for a long time and drag

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<v Speaker 1>it out because I'm I am too old. No, But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also for that as well. I think if you've

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<v Speaker 1>connected with someone online. You can end up becoming penpals

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<v Speaker 1>and like, that's not what we're here for. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty has been a bit different, and like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>people haven't been able to act on their online connections

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<v Speaker 1>as quickly and as easily. But I think if you've

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<v Speaker 1>contacted someone online, you guys vibe you have things in common.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like within a week you have to set a

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<v Speaker 1>date or a time or something to see each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just penpal each other to death, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was alright for me when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>I quite enjoyed talking to people and having the fun

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<v Speaker 1>and just having something there. I am so short on time, energy, patient,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've been fucking whittled down. Guys, I have been

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<v Speaker 1>burnt into the ground. They were literally like age, sex, location, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there. No, I'm like we just chat and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, what are you up to today? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I've actually got our free if you're around,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get a coffee and go for a walk. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, okay, so sorry you said craffee,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pick it up, Okay, just leave this. But I

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<v Speaker 1>went for a coffee not a c and so we

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<v Speaker 1>met straight away. Now this doesn't often happen to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do get a really good reading straight away

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<v Speaker 1>on somebody. He walked around the corner of the coffee shop,

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<v Speaker 1>and as soon as I saw him, I just the

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<v Speaker 1>energy wasn't right. And I know that sounds crazy, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I just know that this isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great. Within one minute, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this is going to be really, really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew that it wasn't going anywhere. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was a great guy. Don't get me wrong, it was fun,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was just it was it was not easy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it should be easy. The conversation wasn't easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was nervous or something, but

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<v Speaker 1>I had to really like, you know, mate, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know I can talk under water. But it was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do in that situation? Like? Is it okay?

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<v Speaker 1>If you are instantly not vibing someone, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go anywhere. Can you cut that date short?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do like a twenty five minute and be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you, not for me? Like can you

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<v Speaker 1>do that? You can? But I don't dating him. No, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't even funny, No, because well I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt someone's feelings to that point. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>going for a walk. It was a nice day. And

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<v Speaker 1>also like I couldn't walk halfway and get uber back.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to walk back, so like you know, fair,

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<v Speaker 1>and also like a walking date is pretty harmless, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you can spend an hour in someone's company who you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're not gonna end up dating, and just do

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<v Speaker 1>the niceties of having a chat. And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>nice day anyway, So it was and look, it was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just all I'm saying. I'm not saying it

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad date. I'm just saying I just knew

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<v Speaker 1>straightaway that it was never gonna go anywhere. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really big on being honest now because I hate people ghosting.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my advice and anyone ever listens. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's better to be the bigger person and be really honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the same. If someone doesn't feel it with me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope they would write to me and be

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<v Speaker 1>honest and say, great, had a great day, You're an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing person. Didn't feel anything like whatever, And I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>like hands down, couldn't care less. If that was a

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<v Speaker 1>first or second date, I'd be like cool, no worries.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the day, he said, because

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<v Speaker 1>we matched online. And I think if you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>not that you owe someone anything that early on in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship. But it's not even a relationship, like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't owe someone anything. But there is a nice way

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<v Speaker 1>and a rude way to handle things. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you've met someone, you've given them your time. Sending some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like conclusion message is a nice way to

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<v Speaker 1>bundle things up. However, you don't need to go into

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<v Speaker 1>why you don't feel it with them, Like they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be criticized on what you think about them

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<v Speaker 1>based on their very limited experience with you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>with me, if he didn't say anything at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>if we both just left and said, hey, had a

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<v Speaker 1>great time, see you later, I have a great day,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I wouldn't follow up and like tell him

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<v Speaker 1>that I just want to see him again, like it

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<v Speaker 1>just send me this message, Look, you seem great, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just look I can't commit to they need to

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<v Speaker 1>back that's not you as me, No, but the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing was at the end we matched online. At the end,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, had a really great time. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like in person, and he went to play his phone.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, can I get your number? And what you

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<v Speaker 1>look at your phone? I'm like, what do you do? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, oh, I'll take one to run away.

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<v Speaker 1>I follow lost my phone. I said, hey, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>send it to you on hinge like pre find away, Relax,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send it you a hinge. So we left and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, okay, cool. And I was actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to message him because that's what I'm honest, like that

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<v Speaker 1>before I got the chance, because I went straight back

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<v Speaker 1>to work before I got the chance. It was only

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<v Speaker 1>like an hour or so later he messaged and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my number. I had a great time. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to see you again. I wrote back a few

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<v Speaker 1>hours later, Look, you're really great. I had a great

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<v Speaker 1>time too. But in complete transparency, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>felt anything romantic. They're happy to cash up as a

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<v Speaker 1>friend sometime. I think that's a great message. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine, honest, that's nice, crazy polite, And he wrote back,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the funny bit. He wrote back, Oh, thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent me too. And I was like, but what

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<v Speaker 1>you just asked me out? I was like, maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>totally just wanted to have sex with you, which is fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a I think his message was

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<v Speaker 1>a panic message, like I think he felt bad that No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to make him feel bad. I disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, there's always some level not always,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, a lot of people will feel some

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<v Speaker 1>level of ego bruising whether or not they were into

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<v Speaker 1>it or not themselves. But maybe he was into it

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<v Speaker 1>and then hearing that you didn't feel something when he did,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a defensive mechanism that comes into plate there, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, yeah, me either. I was just being paged. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that was just a defensive mechanism. But I just felt

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<v Speaker 1>a bit like I was like, just just own that

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<v Speaker 1>and just be like, no worries see you around.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, but we can't control other people's reactions, Like no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's totally on him. And for any men out there

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<v Speaker 2>who listened to this podcast who were wanting a date

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<v Speaker 2>with Brittany, I just recommend rocking up wearing a red

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<v Speaker 2>flag as.

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<v Speaker 1>A T shirt and she'll be like, that's my man.

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<v Speaker 1>I often asked to meet them. I'm like, the only

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<v Speaker 1>way I'm gonna know where you are is if you

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<v Speaker 1>stand outside the coffee shop with a red flag, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>hold a flag. I can only recognize you in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's probably as exciting as this week got. Guys. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guys that this week has been an exciting week. There

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<v Speaker 1>has been so much happening, which actually it was last week,

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<v Speaker 1>not this week, because this week hasn't really happened yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week the Bachelor started, which we're going to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>We are also going to talk about some other things

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually going to touch on. I want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about the Bachelor in America, the Bachelourette. Something happened

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<v Speaker 1>ooh the og? All right, okay, I'm down for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't follow the American Bachelorette, so this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be news for me. I don't either, but just

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<v Speaker 1>read end I thought it was interesting. So we also

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you what we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about for today's podcasts, so that you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to thirty five minutes of us dribbling on without

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<v Speaker 1>actually having a clear idea of what the fuck you're

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<v Speaker 1>in for. I don't know. I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>best content. So today's episode, if you guys remember a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks back, we actually did an episode which was

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<v Speaker 1>all about love languages and that we had such a

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<v Speaker 1>great response to that episode, all about how you communicate

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<v Speaker 1>and how you show love and receive love. Today we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing a follow up to that episode, which is all

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<v Speaker 1>about attachment styles and how you relate and bond with

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<v Speaker 1>your adult partner. Adult partner. That was weird, how you

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<v Speaker 1>relate or bond with your boyfriend or your girlfriend or whoever.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, the important relationships, Yeah, but also how you

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<v Speaker 1>bond and attach yourself to your friendship groups as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and how that that's actually linked to your relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>your parents and your daddy issues. So we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>really into that later on. But before we do get

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<v Speaker 1>into that, yeah, we have some other shit we want

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<v Speaker 1>to cover first. Why can we jump straight in to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor? What do you think? I think? We don't

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<v Speaker 1>go deep. I just want to know what your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>are overall. I like, like, let's not go deep. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's the most like superficially fantastic. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like hardly deep conversation the cocktail party night. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's not go into detail. Oh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like that zapp's my energy. Okay. So for anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>was following along on the Facebook group, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>part of the group, then here is my plug and

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a housekeeping as well. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook group It's Life Uncut podcast. We really recommend if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a bit of a Batchel Diehard fan to jump

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<v Speaker 1>onto that Facebook group because as the episodes are happening

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor episodes are happening, we have a running thread there

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone is kind of contributing their hilarious commentary on

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. So there are a couple of questions

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<v Speaker 1>that got asked in that Facebook group feed which I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to touch on because I thought they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>really great questions. Some of them we have the answers.

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<v Speaker 1>For some of them, we have no idea what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck was going on, but from our experience, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>we could answer them, starting with the one very.

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<v Speaker 2>Important question, where the hell did aribas ham sand? Which

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<v Speaker 2>come from Printey, I always.

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<v Speaker 1>Find this so interesting that it is happening in my

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<v Speaker 1>season two. I don't know if it happened to yours.

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<v Speaker 1>When someone's like, can I ask you some questions about Batchlan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, of course, open book, ask what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>The first question is always about food and what we eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you guys could ask me anything. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>always wants to know about the food. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>because there's so much information out there about how production's

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<v Speaker 1>manipulative or how like the edit happens, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much conversation about that, but the actual like day to

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<v Speaker 1>day running, like how do you exercise, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>get food? What does your downtime look like? Those sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of questions are really answered, and that stuff's really interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for people who want to enter or actually are

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<v Speaker 1>considering going on the show. But they're like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand what the outcome is going to be, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the day to day looks like during

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<v Speaker 1>the filming. Yeah, like I want to know where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get my ham sandwich from. It's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think what's happened is so we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>food at the cocktail parties. Guys, it's not an actual

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail party, but you're you're obviously fed, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>a break for dinner, and there's there's food that's catered,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's food all in the kitchen. You actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a proper break, You sit down, you eat your food,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's food, like it's not sandwiches. Usually it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>rolls and curries and like rice. But I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's easy. They could have had sandwiches that night.

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<v Speaker 1>She could have made a sandwich, a ham sandwich because

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<v Speaker 1>she's hungry, because you can do that. I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>she was actually on a break and they weren't properly

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<v Speaker 1>filming when that went down, and the cameraman just decided

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<v Speaker 1>to grab it because it was content, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>she was probably just sitting there and eating. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>was really surprised by it.

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<v Speaker 2>And when everyone was asking where did she get the

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<v Speaker 2>ham sandwich from, I was like, I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 2>because you never are allowed to eat, especially production food

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<v Speaker 2>in like a plastic container on on set, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't happen. So I'm thinking it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually there's a catering truck that comes and they cater

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<v Speaker 2>so mid break they do a like a food break.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they do a big break at the end

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<v Speaker 2>after the row ceremony, so you do have like these

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<v Speaker 2>two separate times to eat. But we were absolutely not allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>To bring any of the catering food on set, So

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw her there with her dirty ham sandwich,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're a queen because that was my sandwich. Also, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>the first lines filmed over two days, so they're really

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<v Speaker 1>really big days, so she's probably just famished. She probably

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<v Speaker 1>scurried off to quickly like get some sustenance in her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was attacked stage left, and I reckon the cameramen

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<v Speaker 1>are just like poink bingo turn their cameras because the

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<v Speaker 1>cameras never shut down. They're always there. Even if the

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<v Speaker 1>cameramen are like lulling around on the break, they're always

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<v Speaker 1>ready for action. Yeah, I think it was a bit opportunistic,

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<v Speaker 1>But you kind of just answered a second question that

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<v Speaker 1>came up on that group chat, which was because I

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned, oh, like, guys, let's keep some perspective about

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<v Speaker 1>how wild Zoe's behaving because the cocktail party is filmed

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<v Speaker 1>over two days, and that kind of blew some people's mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So the cocktail, the very first cocktail party. No other

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail parties are done in this way, but the very

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<v Speaker 1>first cocktail party is filmed over two separate days. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you get up and you get on a bus at

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<v Speaker 1>about eight am, seven am, it's quite early, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you start doing hair and makeup in groups. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many girls to get through.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only a limited amount of makeup and hair artists,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do a group at a time, so usually

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<v Speaker 2>they split into three different groups. There's a group in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, a group in the middle, and a group

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<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon. So then just before sunset you get

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<v Speaker 2>taken to location and then right when dusk happens, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when the first that's when the first like walk down

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<v Speaker 2>the walkway, meet their bachelor, blah blah blah, that all happens.

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<v Speaker 2>The first night takes so long because it's all the

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<v Speaker 2>introductions that by the time they get to the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the cocktail party, the cocktail party has really only

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<v Speaker 2>gone on for a couple of and so the last

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<v Speaker 2>girl who arrives has only had like one or two

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<v Speaker 2>hours at the cocktail party. It's about three am, four am,

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<v Speaker 2>and they wrap up, put everyone back on the bus,

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<v Speaker 2>take you all home. Then at about seven am six am.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, you get back up, so you've had

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<v Speaker 1>three hours sleep, You get your hair and makeup done

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same, You get put back into the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same clothes, you do the whole thing again, and then

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<v Speaker 1>on the third day, you get back in those same clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>you get back in that same hair and makeup, and

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<v Speaker 1>you do the boxes, which is when you're talking to camera,

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<v Speaker 1>and you spend the whole day doing voxes about the

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail party there was three weeks earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>It's intent, so you have three separate days that you're

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<v Speaker 2>wearing the exact same hair and makeup outfit, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>how they manage to get so much content for that

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<v Speaker 2>first night.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, they don't do it for any other reason than

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<v Speaker 1>they physically have to. There is just not enough time

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<v Speaker 1>to get through every girl's arrival, get through a whole

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail party, and get all the content. So they're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for any other and they're not doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for any reason to be manipulative in any way, or

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to do it, but there's just not

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<v Speaker 1>enough time in the day, so totally, but it explains

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<v Speaker 1>why by the end of that cocktail party. Everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>just totally fucking like blotto, not even drunk blotto, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're just so exhausted. But I did enjoy how they were, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and Zoe took ill, so she can't be here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Took ill. We've all taken ill at some point when

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<v Speaker 1>I have seventeen Bacardi breezes, I take ill as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so perplexed by that rant like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, because apparently she's gone viral on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a TikTok meme or something. Is that a thing

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<v Speaker 1>meme on TikTok You just haven't so old just then,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, I'm gonna guess it's a thing. She's a tiktokitty.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a tiktoking meme. The one thing that's been so

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<v Speaker 1>ironic that's come out as like the main conversation around

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<v Speaker 1>that is that Zoe very very Caucasian. Zoe has taken

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<v Speaker 1>aim at the only person of color on the show

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<v Speaker 1>and said that she is victimizing her because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way she looks, which the irony in that is just brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not so great for twenty twenty and where we're

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<v Speaker 1>out at the moment in society. But oh god, the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment factor. You know, we have to keep perspective on

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>who the villains are. We have to keep perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>the edit and all that sort of stuff. But I'm

0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.959
<v Speaker 1>here for this, yeah, And it's super important to remember to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to laugh at people, you can have

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<v Speaker 1>your opinions, but have them inside. You use your inside

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<v Speaker 1>voice and your internal monologue. And it's really important that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't go and put those opinions on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't be nasty, you don't make fun of people

0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like on their pages. Just remember that too. Like with

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook group, it's all very lighthearted. If anything negative

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.280
<v Speaker 1>gets said, it gets deleted. You guys, someone will report

0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.360
<v Speaker 1>your ass and I'll delete the comment and then send

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<v Speaker 1>you a message saying, keep it up, keep it up beat, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it nice. But also there's been a few questions

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<v Speaker 1>because I personally know Bella, who's from this season, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a few questions around how I know her

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<v Speaker 1>and what my relationship is like with her, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to like clear the air before Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Mail writes any fucking rumors that aren't true. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have known Bella for about three and a half years now. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I met her after we finished filming The Bachelor, and

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<v Speaker 1>when Matt and I started, we were together and we

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<v Speaker 1>started going to different events and things. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>an event in Sydney and I met her and I

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<v Speaker 1>met another girl named Dadae Tunci, and we just got

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<v Speaker 1>along really really well. We ended up going out for

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<v Speaker 1>dinner afterwards, and that's how we became friendly. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen her probably once in the last year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, but we've always been on good term. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a really really lovely person, and so that is how

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<v Speaker 1>we know each other. I didn't know she was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I had no idea. I found out afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually it's a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>I found out during only because Florence had sent me

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<v Speaker 2>screenshots of her photos from daily mails. So there'd been

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:42.640
<v Speaker 2>pat photos that had come out, and Florence, who also

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:46.240
<v Speaker 2>knows Bella, was like, holy shit, how's this some synchronicity

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 2>in life?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's how I know her. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>inside of goss, which means that I can speculate all

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck I want. Guys, Yeah, I like that. I

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:57.879
<v Speaker 1>like that. You don't know, we like Britta and I

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 1>we're so far removed from the girls who are on

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<v Speaker 1>this season that we can talk about it, but we

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely have no idea what the outcome is, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what makes all of this so much more enjoyable for us. Actually,

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's why you and I bonded, because

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<v Speaker 1>like in this weird way, I mean, I trauma trauma

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<v Speaker 1>responding bab. This is gonna this is gonna sound weird

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<v Speaker 1>because I've just done Bachelor in Paradise, but I've never

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>been involved in the Bachelor world. Everyone knows each other

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.679
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise, they all speak, They've all been in each

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<v Speaker 1>other's DMS. I didn't know one person. I've never spoken

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>to one other person before, never seen to the DMS.

0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>You didn't go to Bali that time, you didn't go bar,

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.440
<v Speaker 1>but everyone comes out and it becomes a really incestuous world.

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.879
<v Speaker 1>I was always very removed. I left and I just

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<v Speaker 1>went and got on with my life. I think you

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of did that too, And it sounds weird that

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<v Speaker 1>to say that I'm not involved with anyone else because

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<v Speaker 1>I do this with you and you're from the Batchelor.

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<v Speaker 1>But apart from that, you and I don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want the goss from every other person and every other season.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's nice that we can now sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and not have no attachment to anyone in this season,

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and we can talk openly about it. So anything we do, say, guys,

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we literally know nothing. Like I'm sick of the entertainment

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>value now, Like I love watching The Bachelor because I

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 1>think it's funny. I think it's entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy the love story, like I actually genuinely believe

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:16.880
<v Speaker 2>that couples can come out of it, and that people.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't believe it. Well, that's probably because here we are,

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 1>but that's yeah, that's why I'm so into it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not because I have a relationship or any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>attachment to the people who do it now. I mean

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for them sometimes, but part from that.

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<v Speaker 1>On the first episode when it happened, when it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>when they started walking in, I got this feeling of

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like nostalgia and it was really weird. I was like,

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I sort of missed this house and

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.479
<v Speaker 1>like the friendships and going through that. How weird. And

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.439
<v Speaker 1>then two seconds later all hell broke loose and I

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.439
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, no, I don't. I like that.

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.199
<v Speaker 2>You had a moment of nostalgia, and every time I

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<v Speaker 2>see the first episode, all I feel is wild anxiety,

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>wild anxiety.

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've got the happy ending, bro, let's get in. Well,

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I've got something else. Oh god, we are I want

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to get into the accidentally unfilled. No, We've got so

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>much more to get through there. So I don't follow

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thes Bachelorette, but I found this really bloody interesting. They

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>cast Claire Crawley, so she's she's actually a veteran. She

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 1>was on season eighteen of the Bachelor, and then she

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>did two lots of Paradises and shed. Then she did

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor Winter Games, which I don't know what if

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what that is, it's like another spinoff. So

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 1>she's Courtney did So Courtney was on Georgia Love season

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>he went over and that's how we met Lillie McManus

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>because he did the Winter Games. I would love to

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.959
<v Speaker 1>do that the Bachelor. In the States, they really they

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>drain and ring out as much content under the Bachelor

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>series as possible. They've got like four different spinoffs. We've

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>just got Paradise, They've got one for every season. Imagine

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>just going to the snow, snowboarding with some friends, maybe

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>hooking up with the love of your life, like brilliant,

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like my dream. Brittany's been pitching herself for Bachelor

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>in Winter. She's like, I've already on the Paradise One.

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for my Winter One be the next season,

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor in Spring. All right, tell me what happened. So

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Claire Crawley anyway, she's she became bacheloret So they announced

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the bachelorette. Then this is all speculation, okay, but it's everywhere,

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>so I don't want you to say it's gospel. It

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>must be true. It must be true. They announced her

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>as bachelorette. Then COVID happened and everything went into lockdown.

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 1>So they went to a four down lockdown. Then they

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>came back out and started to film ten to twelve

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 1>days inter filming. Now this goes for months. She refused

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to come out of her room. She's like, I'm done.

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to date anyone else. I'm in love

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>with Dale. There's this guy called Dale Moss, one of

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the contestants. I'm in love with Dale. I want no

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>one but Dale. They want see you one, but Dale,

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming down of my room. I'm quitting the.

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Show in ten days filming. She's in love with someone

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and wants to leave the show.

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Lolcano. She would have spent three minutes with him. We

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>all know how that works. She's probably only had one

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 1>single day with the guy. Now where this gets interesting,

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's come out that in the four months lockdown, Dale

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>has slid into her DMS slippery McGee Daye, slippery Dale,

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>slippery Dazzy. So he's like obviously been like, hey, I'm

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>on the show whatever. They've formed this bond four months,

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>fallen in love with a week end. She's like fuck this,

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and now they're engaged. This is all speculation. She left

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the show halfway through. They had to bring people back,

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>they've had to find a new bachelorette, and it's been

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>chaos and that has never ever happened in a Bachelor history.

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>So I thought that was interesting. But how sneaky is

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 1>is finding out the bachelorette getting ahead of time and

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>making a fall in love with you before the show starts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's brilliant power, move Dale, brilliant power. It's a really

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>great game plan, that's for sure, but also I think

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:35.120
<v Speaker 1>like twenty twenty is pretty fucked anyway, like something else

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>had to go wrong for them right this, I blame COVID.

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>It's your fault. Well, there's one more funny thing about

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor that you just brought to my attention. Do

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to tell the people?

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So Britt didn't know about this, and maybe you guys

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know about this. And I promise after this story,

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>this will be the last batch thing that we would

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about on this episode. But last night, when I

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 2>was sitting on the couch mining my own business, scrolling Instagram.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Something popped up which I felt highly highly amusing, and

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that is that Matt Wyatt and Kieran from Paradise are

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 1>having a charity boxing match and they're gonna try and

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 1>punch the shit out of each other for charity. And

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I just think, boys, you need to put your dicks away.

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Enough is enough. I actually found this so funny because

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>they nearly had to bunge up on Paradise. Now they've

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>taken it into a public arena, and I think it's embarrassing. Look,

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it's for charity, so I'm here for it. Anything that

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>goes to charity, I'm here for but I just think

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 1>why boys like and they've called it Battle of the

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor's look. I mean, of course it's for charity, like

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>money for anything that's going towards a good cause is important.

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know is there is the sentiment behind

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>why they're doing it for a good cause. I don't

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>think so, Like they obviously don't like each other, they

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously have a beef and then to want to beat

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>each other up. I just think the whole thing's pretty dirty,

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's a big competition element to it.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>There's a big like my dick's bigger than your dick.

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of jealousy. There's just a lot of

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>like pent up hate and aggression. And I don't think

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>beating the shit out of each other for charity is

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a great idea. I feel like on Instagram they have

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>like made up because there's been apologies and whatever. Like

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think their best is but I feel like

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, bro, I respect you, sorry whatever. I

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know. You know what boys do. But I think

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Kieran's gonna lose. Actually, let's do this, Okay, we're gonna

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>put a pole on Instagram. We're gonna put a pole

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in our Facebook group as well. Who do you think

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>is gonna win? Kieran or Matt? I reckon Kieran talks

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.719
<v Speaker 1>a big talk, but maybe doesn't have the gusto behind

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the gas. Oh that was a good one. From from

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>what I have seen, what I've known, I would and

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing against either person, but I would have just

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>been like, yeah, Matt's got this in the bag. But Kieran,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe has been training properly at boxing gym. Like

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they're really going to town. I think it's

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be really serious. But how embarrassing because someone's

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna lose, Like one person's gonna lose. I would I

0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just would never say yes to this. In case I

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>was the loser, let us do it. How about we

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>do a charity boxing? Would out at me? Na, no way,

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm a wiry little girl. I'd get you great hound.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine who wants to see Brittain and I

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>do a boxing match. Let's put that pole up. No,

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna do it, but let's just see who

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>people think would win. You're too nice people there, but

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm an animal. You are a low key animal. I'm

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>an underdog animal.

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 2>This is what people don't realize. Everyone's like, Oh, Brittany's

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>so lovely, Laura's got issues.

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.479
<v Speaker 1>I just think I'm fit. I just mean I'm fitting lovely.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>If it was like a fight, if we had to

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to like be the last person hunger games, I mean,

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I could do it, but I would never. I just

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>would never fight someone because I would punch in my

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>back and my go I'm.

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>So sorry, and I love that about you. All Right, with

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 2>all that out of the way, that was a really

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 2>long intro, but we do have our favorite part of

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the episode and your favorite part of the episode. If

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>you listened to last week's episodes in general, you would

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 2>realize we didn't do ask uncut episode on Thursday.

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I've just said the word episode so many times and

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it's really annoying me, so I can only imagine how

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you feel. We didn't do that second episode of the week,

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>but we did put up a bonus air which was

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>only accidentally unfiltered stories. So if you haven't listened to

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>our bonus episode from last week, it is strictly for loles.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>There is nothing serious about it. We highly recommend that

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you go and listen to that. However, we have some

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>more accidentally unfiltered stories for you, because yeah, I got

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>fucked up lives and we love it. I've actually got

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a good one, but mine crosses into accidentally unfiltered slash.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't believe they said that, Oh it's slashy, it's a slash.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a slash. Double barrel. All right, Well do you

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>want to go first? Yeah? Why not? This happened about

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>seven years ago, back in the day with my ex boyfriend.

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>We've been together for about four years and had the

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>epitome of a toxic relationship. I'm talking cheating, gaslighting, abuse, Lol,

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>no idea why I have trust issues. We finally broke

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>up about six months prior and hadn't spoken once since

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>we had broken up, but we aasionally had social gatherings

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>together because we still had a group of friends that

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>were similar. On this day, we had a big group

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of pre drinks for a festival. I was sitting there chatting,

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>minding my own business, when he came up to me

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and said, really, seriously, can I have a chat with

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you really quickly about something really important? I thought, hell's yes,

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy's gonna ask me to get back with him.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>And this is my shining moment to be like sorry,

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Next you missed your chance. He took me

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>aside and said, really, seriously, I'm really sorry to ask.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to see if it was possible if

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you could take drugs into the festival for me in

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>your vagina. I couldn't even speak because I was so shocked.

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I just walked away without saying one word and counted

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>my lucky stars that I am now with someone that

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make me smuggle and be his drug mule. Could

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you imagine you're like, oh, this is my time to

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>say no, to say you know what, I don't want

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you back in my life, and no, I'm sorry, my

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>vagina is not yours. Anything. The hid audacity of some

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>people like also, why would she say yes?

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>You were in your standard slip and you kind of

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>allow one thing to happen and then another thing to happen,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden you're at a festival

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 2>with the whole thing of k up your ass.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>He has lost a plot. I'm sorry that guy has

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.239
<v Speaker 1>lost a plot, Like bloody hell, Okay, I have a

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>good one. I think it's a good one. I have

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a few. Actually, well you were this. We're not going

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to rattle off twenty you just pick your best one

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>have a couple. So just the last few weeks, we've

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>had so many really good, accidently unfiltered stories filtering through

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>on our dms and guys, we love this from you.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But this one came in. It's very, very g rated,

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and I thought the innocence of it was great. I'm

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>not particularly hairy, so I always just use a razor

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>down there, but on this occasion, I decided it was

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>time to try some waxing. Having not gone before, I

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit nervous. I arrived at the salon

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and the lady was lovely. She walked me into the

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>room and said, okay, well, if you're having a Brazilian,

0:32:59.920 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>take her clothes off and I'll be back shortly. So

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I did, and I lay on the bed. She walked

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in and looked perplexed and a little bit shocked, and

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>she said, I'm sorry, I thought you were having a

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Brazilian And she said, yeah, that's right, and she goes, well,

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>then why have you taken your brown tomble? Why did

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>she take She's lying there completely nude, like she's getting

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a massage, face up as well, and then anyway, she's like.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I was totally mortified and made some lame excuse about

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>being hot. Unfortunately didn't em there. She then asked me

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to stretch, so I did. I raised my arms to stretch.

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I raised them up above my head like I was

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>doing a proper wake up stretch. I think I might

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>have even yawned again. She looked at me really confused

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and said, no, I meant stretched the skin between your

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>leg and your buttgrass. So I roped the waxing strip

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>off so it doesn't hurt so much. I just love,

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>bless this girl's soul. I love the innocence of this.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh that usually I actually unfilled. The stories are so dirty,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>but this was I would leave. I would be like,

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand what's happening in my life. I

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>need to leave. She'll like, anyways, I've never been back

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>to have a wha. I'm back to shaping, and that's

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>where we're at. Thanks for the laugh, girls, to be

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>our time for another one? Am I allowed to? Are

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>we going to keep this on the on the short,

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>sharp and ready today? Well we're about forty five minutes.

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 1>What's another one between friends? Then? Hey, so this one

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>came through. Actually, God, I'm gonna put one of them

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>on our stories as well, because I've got a really

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>funny one that came through in text messages. But this

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is one last one that I'm going to save for today.

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>So this literally just happened to me, and because I

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 1>can't bear to process it yet, I've decided to send

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it to you guys for a good laugh. I love

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>where the first place people go when something embarrassing happened,

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's happening to them and they're like, I just

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>need to record this for the girls.

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 2>The amount of messages we get from you guys being like, hey,

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm experiencing something really traumatic and I thought of you.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside,

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>so proud, so proud. Okay, so this literally just happened.

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>One of the coaches at my gym has a bit

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>of a following on Instagram, like you would say he's

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>an influencer and he's pretty famous anyway. He posts photos

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of his workouts and often he isn't wearing a shirt.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>He's super hot and my friend and I always talk

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>about his photos. When he posts a new one, I

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>get pt sessions with this guy. So anyways, yesterday he

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>posted a new photo he had no shirt on. As

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>per usual, I immediately clicked the little plane button next to

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the photo and send it to my friend and was like, dude,

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>he's so fucking hot. I'm amature, replied dad, he do that,

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And to top it off, I added the dribbling droolly emoji.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I send the photo and then I didn't think anything

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>of it until today when I sat down with my

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend for a coffee and I asked, oh, did you

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>see the photo, the one that he posted recently, And

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>she was like no, and she's like, I sent it

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>to you in your DMS. Then I went to my

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>DMS to see why she hadn't seen it and realized

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I had sent it to my coach when I told

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you I died and basic. So she sent it directly

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to her PT trainer that she thinks he's so fucking hot.

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I just think to own that and be like, yeah,

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I was giving you a pep talk like yeah, you

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>look hot today, bro. What I would do, That's what

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I would do. I would just own that and be like, yeah, boy,

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I was just telling you a little hot. Oh man,

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I reckon could you go back to him and get

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>pet sessions after that? I would. I'd own it. If

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it's that hot, you're not gonna stay. But it's like,

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>of course I would. I would hope that he just

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>now got the point and hopefully he would make the

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>next move. I'd probably send that to him, pretending it

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to be like I'd probably do intentionally be like,

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that was supposed to someone else. I'll

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>move again, Dear God. Guys, keep them coming. All right, guys,

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>it's time to get into some content. I hope you

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the first half of that episode, because I think

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you and I enjoyed that more than probably most people.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Well weirdos, stop laughing at ourselves. Okay, so we're going

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk about attachment styles. Now. Before I give a

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>little intro into this, I do want to say I

0:36:57.680 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>didn't know a lot about it. You mentioned it a little.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll go Laura on one of the episodes that you've

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>done an attachment style quiz. We always said would go

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>back to it, but I've never really delved deep into

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it before, and I found it so interesting. There is

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of content here, guys, and we're going to

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>be reading a lot of stuff out that we've actually

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>just learned from a lot of therapists, psychologists, just things

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that we've researched ourselves. So this is coming from both

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we're still learning at the same time, we wanted to

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>deliver this content to you because we think it's going

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to really help and affect your life and I think

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone can just learn something from it. Yeah, and the

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>idea of attachment style, So this is a theory that

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I've always found really interesting and fascinating. It's to do

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>with your relationship with your parents, and that's where attachment

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 1>theory comes from. So in your early life, like in

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>your childhood, when you from when you were born until

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're about the age three, that's when your parents

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>have a very profound impact on the way that you

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>feel loved, receive loved, and build attachments towards other people.

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>And if you have had a bit of a complicated childhood,

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't received love or attachment in a way

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>that could be considered, you know, in quotation marks normal,

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>then you may have a slightly more dysfunctional adult attachment type.

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And I guess for me, the reason why this became

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>something that I was really interested in is because, like

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about loads on this podcast before, I had

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a really unhealthy attachment style prior to my relationships with Matt.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>And we'll get into it with Britain. I both did

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the test. Now we both kind of uncovered our own

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>attachment styles. Mine has changed over the years and I

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>have a much more secure attachment type now. But we'll

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>get into like how how your childhood.

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Basically can really form and affect the way that you feel,

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>receive and create bonds in your relationships as adults. But

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>like brit said, some of it is research and some

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 2>of it is from like our own experiences as well.

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you got people in your life where you've ever

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 1>looked at people friends, family, or thought about the way

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship. Some people are really aloof and

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>unattached in their relationships. Yeah, like they're all dated.

0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>A guy who's like just doesn't give you anything, Yeah,

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 2>this guy's fucking stone wall.

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And then others are super attached, super clingy, really needy.

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>They need constant validation. And what it comes down to

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is some people are secure and some people are unsecure.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the basis of it. But there are four

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>styles of attachment. So the four attachment styles are secure attachment,

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>anxious preoccupied attachment, dismissive avoidant attachment, and fearful avoidant attachment.

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>What are you?

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought we were gonna be like and now we're

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna unpack these but like, okay, so we're gonna put

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the link in like we did for the Love Languages test,

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna put the link into the description notes for

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 2>this episode so that you can go and do your

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>own attachment assessment and you can find out what sort

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>of attachment type you are and unpack that with your partner.

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>You can also do it with them, and it kind

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>of just opens up this conversation and understanding around why

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you behave the way that you behave, and why you

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.720
<v Speaker 2>perceive relationships and connection in the way that you perceive

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and define your relationship.

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So my, we're gonna start with me. Let's start with

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the trauma, all right? What are you? So we've both

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>done the test, so mine has changed significantly. So I

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>did my test years and years ago and I was

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>very very high on anxious preoccupied attachment. Anxious preoccupied attachment

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>is like I mean, I've described this to you guys before.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's this need of being in a relationship.

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of my purpose and a lot

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 2>of my value in myself from feeling loved by somebody else,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>and I was always very insecure that they were going

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 2>to leave me. I had massive Daddy issues basically of abandonment,

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 2>even like it's not funny, it's not funny, but but

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 2>this was me, and this is like, you know, this

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 2>was very patent behavior, and a lot of my past relationships,

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I was always somebody who got into relationships that were

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 2>very quick moving, very very intense, very volatile, and then

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I would be left feeling like there was something wrong

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>with me because the relationship didn't work out.

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>That has changed.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Significantly, and I can only attribute that to being in

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 2>a really healthy relationship with someone who is incredibly patient

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 2>like Matt is an angel and Zi from the Heavens.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 2>But it's changed massively over the years. So I now

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>was really surprised with my results. So I have basically

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 2>basically the way it works is like you can be

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 2>you're a dominant attachment style, so there's one that is

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.439
<v Speaker 2>going to be dominant for you, and then we all

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 2>display characteristics of the others, and those characteristics can change

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 2>depending on the relationship that you're in. They can also

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>change depending on the time of your life that you're in,

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>and so sometimes they might be higher or lower. But

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, we have an overall main attachment style, and

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>now in my relationships, my main attachment style style is

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent secure, unsurprisingly coming a relatively close second. My

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 2>anxious preoccupied attachment style is my number two at thirty

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 2>three percent, and then dismissive avoidant at eight percent and

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 2>fearful avoidant at eight percent as well, So I have

0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a little bit from each category.

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty even. But yeah, secure, and guys like you

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>want to be secure. That means that you're in a

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>functioning relationship where you feel loved, You feel like you

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>can communicate with your partners safely, you're not scared of abandonment.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 1>So like being in that and having that as like

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>your most significant value on your scorecard is that's that's

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a sweet spot, that's where you want to be. I

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>think it's really interesting. I like the fact that it

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>can change because it evolves with you, I guess. And

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like you just said, you went from just being

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>insecure all the time and needing needy. You were needy,

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you needed love to Now you are so happy and

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>confident in your relationship and you feel secure. You don't

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like Matt's going to ever abandon you. I think

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 1>that's a really nice place to be. So I love

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>that you're you've shown and you're open enough to say, yeah,

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I went from one extreme to the other. So that's

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>really nice. So congratulations on being secure, Congratulations on getting

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 1>your shit together, Laura, thank you, thank you very much.

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like, like we'll get into all of this,

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>but there are ways to change your attachment style if

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're really vulnerable in your relationships, Like therapy,

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about all the different ways to unpack it

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and ways to really approach if you have a dysfunctional

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>attachment style. But yeah, well.

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, like after we talk about hour and styles, we'll

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 2>get into like what each one actually means and what

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.320
<v Speaker 2>that looks like as a personality type.

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so mine was interesting. Mine was fifty eight percent secure,

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>which for me, I guess it's hard because I've been

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>single for a long time. But what these quizzes do

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>if you are single, that's so fine. It'll tell you

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to think of the relationships that you do have in

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your life or think back to a last relationship. But

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 1>so for me, I can be secure in the fact

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that I have an amazing family who I know are

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>there for me. I know they're never gonna leave me.

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I know if I need anything, I can go to them.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>The same with my small group of friends. I know

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got people to rely on. So I think that's

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:52.359
<v Speaker 1>where it stemmed from me. But the next category in

0:43:52.560 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>my pie I was twenty percent avoidant dismissive, which when

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I was reading what avoid and dismissive is, I was like,

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>holy bejeebers like me to a tea. I'm going to

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>read you guys, what it actually says, avoiding dismissive is.

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Avoiding attachment style is a form of insecure attachment style

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>marked by a fear of intimacy giltoo. People with avoid

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>an attachment style tend to have trouble getting close to

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>others or trusting others in relationships guiltoo. They typically maintain

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>some distance from their partners or are largely emotionally unavailable

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>in their relationships, preferring to be independent and rely on themselves,

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>like this is me to a tea. You guys will

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>know if you've been following along the podcast for a

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>long time. I often joke, and I've always thought it

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>was a joke, but maybe it's not. I often joke

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that I'm like emotionally void and that the Bachelor will

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>told the producers were like, where are your emotions? Like

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>why are you crying? Cry harder? I don't have feelings.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I often joke that, and I've always said it to myself, like, hahaha,

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm emotionally void. And then when I read this and

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>it specifically states like these people largely are emotionally unavailable

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and I don't. They can't feel that, I was like,

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it's actually me. Then it says they

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>prefer to be on their own and rely on themselves

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>totally me and I just think that stems from obviously

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 1>the toxic relationship that I did have. It definitely does

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 1>not stem from my family life because they've always had

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the support so for me. And this is what can

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 1>happen too. In the reverse, the way that you had

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a insecure feeling and you came through that now you're

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>really great, I was the reverse, because that can happen.

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I was very, very always very secure and happy and

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>emotionally available and obsessive with my relationships, Like when I

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 1>fell in love, I was in love like I wanted

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to be with them every single day. Then I went

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>through this really toxic few years with this crazy sociopath

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Episode three and all love that plug.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 2>But if you haven't listened to episode three, it's by

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>far both of our favorite episode. It's just Britney's story

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 2>about her dating sociopath that had to double like a

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>double life is the most insane episode ever.

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:05.800
<v Speaker 1>So we recommend that on every basically, but we we

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>only say that for the newcomers or you ogs know that.

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>But so then it put into reverse and it put

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>me from being like really really really secure in this

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 1>place where I was like, I don't want to rely

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 1>on everyone again, and I remember saying that to myself.

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember saying I will not rely on a man again.

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's almost like I've driven myself to the extreme,

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So I need to find a way to one that

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>back a little bit. However, I think it's important and

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>just in your results there, like to keep perspective, like

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're still very high on the secure like percentage

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>wise of these tests, but you do have like a

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of something that is that is very manageable,

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and that is a very like minimal percentage in comparison

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 1>to your secure attachment. So overall, you have the like

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you have the ability and the sense to be able

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to see your relationship with a healthy perspective and create

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>healthy attachments. We're always going to have some level of insecurity.

0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>We're always going to have some level of doubt or

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>something in us that prevents us from wanting to be

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>hurt again if we've been through bad relationships, and I

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.879
<v Speaker 1>think you know, depending on where you're at in your life,

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>if you've just come out of a really shit relationship,

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>your scale and your percentages in this test it's going

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:14.399
<v Speaker 1>to be completely different to if you feel like you're

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 1>in a really stable at healthy relationship. So it's very

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>dynamic depending on what's happening in your life. But it

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 1>also shows that different things that happen in your life,

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>like things that happen in your childhood or bad relationships

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>that you go through, can be triggers to stop you

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>from being able to commit to somebody or have a

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 1>happy relationship further in life. I was just going through

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>that because I thought it was really interesting. That is

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 1>only twenty percent. I am. I know that I'm secure now,

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and I know that when I have a relationship it'll

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>be fine, and I know there'll be no jealousy, there'll

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>be no one and where they are, they'll be no

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:47.919
<v Speaker 1>easy going to leave me because I'm just beyond that now.

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 1>You do get to a point where you like. I

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>think that's why I'm so picky, because I just know

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that when I pick that person, I don't want to

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about it. So if I if I

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>get spidey tingly senses when I'm dating someone that I'm

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 1>going to feeling secure, I'm going to wonder where they

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>are and who they're with. I just wouldn't pursue it.

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 1>So what was your other one then, because there must

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>be another in there. That's a small percentage. Yeah, so

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>one one percentage down again was the anxious and anxious ambivalent,

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and then only eight percent was disorganized, which is interesting.

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So I reckon.

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 2>What we do is I reckon we unpack what each

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>one actually means. So for anybody who's listening and they're like,

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, that's how I approach my relationship. You can

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of identify yourself before you even do the test.

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>So secure attachment is the most predominant attachment. Basically, secure

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>attachment is like I'm fine, you're fine. Fifty five percent

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.360
<v Speaker 2>of the population have secure attachments, and that's a really

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 2>healthy way of approaching your relationships. Basically, it means you

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 2>are happy when you're together, you still feel safe when

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>you're independently apart. You don't have this fear that your

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>partner's going to cheat on you. You're not worried about their whereabouts,

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't feel clingy, you don't feel obsessive. You just

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 2>have a really healthy relationship and dynamic when you're together,

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and you both compliment and and bring a really positive

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 2>light to each other's life. But you're also very capable

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 2>people independently of each other as well, and that's a

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 2>very healthy and secure attachment. And the idea behind this

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 2>attachment is that through your childhood, your parents have been

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 2>there for you. There've been a constant in your life.

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.399
<v Speaker 2>They have provided you with the love and affection when

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>you've required it, and your basic needs to be met, love, food, shelter, support, conversation,

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 2>all of those things have been attended to you and

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you're able to have role models in your life.

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>So you go, oh, that's what a healthy relationship looks like.

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>That's what a healthy love and romantic relationship looks like.

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>That's what healthy friendships look like. So having these really

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>strong role models help for you to be able to

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>then form and have great relationships in your adult life.

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>That's not to say that someone who is secure can't

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>possibly get into a relationship that's toxic and bad. They

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>absolutely can. We all can make bad choices and end

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 1>up with people who are manipulative and bad for us.

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 1>It just means that someone who is very secure in

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 1>themselves is more likely to be able to walk away

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>from it than somebody who is, say like an anxiously

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 1>attached person, who might stay for a lot longer and

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>cop a lot more abuse because they don't feel worthy

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of something better than that. That was a lot. Basically,

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just where you want to be. Basically, secure is

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the sweet spot that's all all gain and forced secure

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>is where you want to fight for. So if you

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>do feel like one of if you do the quiz

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and you do have a lot of larger percentage of

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>one of these other attachment styles, it's not the end

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of the world. You can change it and you can

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>work towards it. Again. We'll get into that later, but

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to jump into attachment style too, and that

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>is the anxious, preoccupied attachment, which is like the I'm

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 1>not fine, but you're fine. It's basically this attachment style

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that's marked and the basis of it is this fear

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of abandonment. So they say that that's coming back from

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're a child, because that's I want you guys

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to remember, this is all based off the first two

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>years of your life. This is where this stems from

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the way you were treated, the way you're made to

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>feel your environment. They really do believe that this is

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>all started in those first two years of life, which

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 1>is crazy, and that's a whole nother conversation because it

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>makes you be like, why do I do with my kid?

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? I know.

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 2>This was something else that britt and I were talking

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:19.839
<v Speaker 2>about in relation to this. I was like, holy shit,

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 2>the pressure that there is to raise a well rounded

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and like normal kid that feels like they loved. I

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>was like, fuck, I don't know if I'm doing a

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 2>good job.

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You're doing a good job. I don't know, what if

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>she's super dysfunctional when she grows up, if she cries

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.880
<v Speaker 1>for like one second, you're like, I'm here, mommy. What

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>if she turns into a narcissist because I'm too attentive?

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. It's a fine line. But this

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>this anxious relationship you feel like and you're always worried

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that your partner's gonna leave you. These sorts of people

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>are always really hungry for validation and they get anxious

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>very easily, like why hasn't my partner takets me back yet?

0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You know it's been five minutes. Has something happened to

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>my partner? Is he with someone else? There's this really

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>really constant, deep seated issue of this isn't right, They're

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave me, and you live in this state of anxiety,

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.879
<v Speaker 1>which is awful for anyone that's ever felt any level

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of anxiety. No one wants to be in that place.

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 1>So this is sort of where that stems from. And

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 1>it never really ends well because partners can often get defensive.

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It can be quite suffocating in a relationship, and it's

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>just it's really really not a healthy place to be. Yeah,

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of people have this style of attachment, and Laura,

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you said that you actually were pretty big on this

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 1>style of attachment from things in your past. How do

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you recognize that at the time or

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.319
<v Speaker 1>is it just something that you look like did you

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>know at the time that you were living in a

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>state of anxiety? Could you recognize and be like, why

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:44.960
<v Speaker 1>am I always anxious? Or is it something that you

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>look back on now that you're in this healthy, secure relationship.

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you look back and be like, I only know

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>how fucked up I was then because of how good

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel now? Good question, Brittany, do you know what

0:52:56.560 --> 0:53:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I find this so interesting because I just want to

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 1>like make this point really clear. Regardless of what your

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 1>attachment style is, there is no blame in this. Like,

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no blame on you for the way

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that you deal with relationships, and there's definitely no blame

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>on your parents. That's not what we're doing here. I

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.960
<v Speaker 1>have I don't talk very openly about my childhood. I

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 1>had a pretty you know, a lot of it was great,

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Of it wasn't, And my mom and my dad divorce

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 2>when I was really young, and my my dad moved away.

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think just just from that and that of itself,

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.720
<v Speaker 2>without like going into any of the other details surrounding

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 2>my upbringing, I think when you're a product of divorce,

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 2>there is this feeling of abandonment and without without it

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 2>being an intentional thing. But even if your parents are

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 2>telling you that they love you, the fact that they've

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 2>chosen to move away and move far away and that

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 2>they're not physically there, the words of I love you

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.799
<v Speaker 2>don't really match up with the actions of I'm not

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>physically here. So there is that feeling of abandonment that

0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:00.120
<v Speaker 2>comes from that, and then you know, moving on from that,

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.720
<v Speaker 2>My mom was a single mom, she had two kids,

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 2>She started dating again, and I like when she got

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:10.120
<v Speaker 2>remarried to her second husband, he was not a great

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>guy by any means, and it was a really turbulent

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:16.400
<v Speaker 2>time in our childhood. And I guess that there was

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 2>this inconsistency. And that's the thing about this whole anxious

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 2>attachment style, is like, if you feel like there's an

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 2>inconsistent love in your upbringing as a child, then that's

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 2>what can make you feel as an adult that you're

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 2>anxious in your relationships because you just don't know, you

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:33.959
<v Speaker 2>don't know like you don't know where it's coming from.

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 2>You genuinely constantly feel in this state of like, maybe

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 2>they're going to leave me, maybe I'm not good enough,

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.879
<v Speaker 2>maybe my feelings aren't valid, And there's this fear that's

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 2>attached to abandonment. And I really like look back on

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 2>my relationships now and I go, oh, wow, Like that's

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:53.280
<v Speaker 2>what that was, Like I can identify that in myself.

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.319
<v Speaker 2>And I also identify a lot of like my mom,

0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:59.399
<v Speaker 2>like my mom's behavior in what I was doing as well,

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Like I really mirrored my mom's dating life myself because

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 2>she didn't want to be alone and I didn't want

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to be alone. And I realized that I was trying

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:09.719
<v Speaker 2>to get my purpose from being in a relationship, like

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I was always in a relationship with someone. But also

0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:14.799
<v Speaker 2>like on that, like my relationship with my mom is

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 2>great now, my relationship with my dad is great, Like

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 2>we both have very adult, very mature relationships, and I

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.759
<v Speaker 2>know they love me, I know that they support me.

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I just think as a child, there were times where

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get the love or the support that I

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 2>felt like I needed at the time. So it was

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 2>a bit mismatch, and it wasn't a reflection of not

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 2>being loved by my parents. It was a reflection of

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 2>them going through some really really challenging trauma themselves and

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 2>also trying to deal with the fact that they had

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 2>children that they were trying to raise. So, you know,

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 2>this is not a blame thing. This is just the

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 2>reality of the world and the reality of relationships. And

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess as I've gotten older, I've looked at the

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.080
<v Speaker 2>relationships that I had in the past and what I

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.440
<v Speaker 2>want and don't want for myself, and I was just

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 2>really lucky. And there's a big portion of luck that's

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 2>come into this. The fact that I met Matt. He

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.919
<v Speaker 2>is completely different to everyone who I've dated before. He's

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 2>a very secure personality type. He's always been incredibly reassuring,

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 2>and over the three years that we've been together, he

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 2>has molded me into a secure attachment because he's just

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.840
<v Speaker 2>so fucking normal it's annoying.

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And so that's changed, you know, Like I used to

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 1>date guys that were emotionally unavailable, so something that's actually

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>really common, which you would think, how could this work,

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 1>But people who have an anxious attachment type often end

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 1>updating people who are dismissive avoidant, which are guys who

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>are totally emotionally unattached, emotionally unavailable, don't really need you,

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>don't really want you, and make you feel unloved because

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>there's this feeling of like, I want more, and you

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 1>keep going back for more. Whereas someone who is secure

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and like has a very healthy attachment style wouldn't put

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 1>up with that shit. Only someone who's anxious would actually

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 1>put up with that shit. So it's almost like two

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 1>opposites attract and two bad characteristics often become moths to

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a flame in that sort of situations. Yeah, I think like, wow, wow,

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Like that was a lot there, and I mean I

0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 1>know a lot about you and your history and everything,

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's I don't know. I just think you shared

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a new little part there, which is great. But it's

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>funny to see. Like you said, I found that really

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 1>interesting when you said, you know, my mum was dating

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot because she didn't want to be alone, and

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:23.960
<v Speaker 1>then so I was dating a lot because I didn't

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>want to be alone. I don't think we realize until

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>we're older how much we mimic those people that are

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>in our lives. Yeah, and good characteristics and bad characteristics

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like when your main role model for relationships, that's your

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>main model for relationships, that's your normal, Like, that's of

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>course what you're going to end up doing yourself as

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you get older. I think when I look when I

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>think about how I was dating afterwards, I was only

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>dating after my relationship. I was only dating people that,

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>like you had just mentioned, they would tell me, hey,

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like I'm emotionally unavailable, I'm not physically available, like I

0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want a relationship. I don't want a relationship, and

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I they're the people that I would invest my time in.

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:03.439
<v Speaker 1>And I was doing it because deep down I didn't

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 1>want it either, and I was too scared to actually

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>form any sort of relationship with anyone. So as soon

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>as song was like, hey, heads up, I didn't actually

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 1>want anything, I was like brilliant when really, deep down

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I wanted it, but I was too scared in case

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>someone was going to leave me. So I did have

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that form for probably around a year or two or

0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:25.120
<v Speaker 1>ten nine year or two I had that. But there's

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a real theory to things, and I think it's so

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>interesting when we start to unpack like who we are

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>as people and why we make the decisions that we

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 1>make and why we choose the type of guys that

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.400
<v Speaker 1>we choose, Like there's a pattern to this, and so

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 1>much of it comes from our personality and who we

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>are and what we've been through in our lives, what

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>we've been exposed to and like, like I just mentioned

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:47.439
<v Speaker 1>earlier as well, but you know, if you do find

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 1>yourself constantly being attracted to people who are bad for you,

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 1>or you're not feeling satisfied in your relationships, or you

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>don't ever feel like you're in a healthy relationship, like

0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>going to therapy and not going to therapy because you

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.080
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about the relationship, but going to therapy

0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to better understand who you are as a person and

0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>why you have these needs and these wants and these

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:09.600
<v Speaker 1>insecurities or these these I'm not gonna call them shortcomings,

0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:13.720
<v Speaker 1>but like these feelings of inadequacy, you can unpack that

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>better understand who you are as a person, and then

0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that allows you to make better decisions in your relationships

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>and find people who are healthy and find people who

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>are you know, not going to fucking play into your trauma.

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>They are out there somewhere. They're out there. You know,

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:30.959
<v Speaker 1>they're hard to find, but they're out there. The third one,

0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 1>which I spoke about before because it was me, was

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the dismissive avoidant attachment. So that's the I'm fine and

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you have issues twenty percent of people. It's literally just

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>where you're scared of intimacy, you're afraid to get close

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 1>to anyone, you don't want to trust anyone, you only

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 1>want to rely on yourself. You're very independent, you're basically

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>emotionally unavailable, and you're attracted to people that are emotionally unavailable.

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's that one. We've spoken about that a lot.

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>That was me.

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:58.480
<v Speaker 2>The reason why people may have created a dismissive personality

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 2>type is because and they totally dismiss their feelings and

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 2>they what they do is they sometimes can't even understand

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:08.160
<v Speaker 2>why people feel so much. They are the type of

1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 2>person that, yeah, Britney sitting here pissing herself. They're the

1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:14.320
<v Speaker 2>type of person where when you go to them and

1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you are upset about something in your relationship and you're like,

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I need to talk about this, they don't want to

1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. They make jokes to downplay your feelings,

1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:26.320
<v Speaker 2>or they are just so avoidant of conflict because they

1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 2>can't actually understand or comprehend that you could feel so

1:00:29.320 --> 1:00:33.400
<v Speaker 2>much about something. They trivialize and downplay things well, and

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the reason for that and the attachment to that as

1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:39.480
<v Speaker 2>a childhood attachment is coming from a family or having

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:44.520
<v Speaker 2>parental caregivers who don't attend to your needs. Basically, maybe

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:49.520
<v Speaker 2>when you're one, two three year old, you are emotionally

1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:50.440
<v Speaker 2>upset about something.

1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:51.080
<v Speaker 1>You're crying.

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:53.760
<v Speaker 2>You need to be cuddled and need to be loved

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:55.720
<v Speaker 2>and need to be given affection, need to be told

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I love you.

1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.960
<v Speaker 1>You're not having that met. Maybe all of your food,

1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 1>your dietarye requirements, it's your house, like all of the

1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 1>other functional things are being met, but your emotional needs

1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:08.160
<v Speaker 1>aren't being met. And without feeling like love and connection

1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you as a child, that can be very, very traumatic.

1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:13.480
<v Speaker 1>And what happens is that over time you start to

1:01:13.520 --> 1:01:16.640
<v Speaker 1>downplay your own feelings. You don't play into them, you

1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>don't allow them to actually be real, and so over

1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>time you've created this defense mechanism to downplay feelings and

1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like not value their importance, if that makes sense. I'm real.

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I know what I'm saying, hey, but

1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:38.320
<v Speaker 1>is deep. It's just I'm laughing because even when I'm

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:40.280
<v Speaker 1>reading this now I'm looking at it on the screen

1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and listening to you talk about it. I've just never

1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:45.720
<v Speaker 1>felt so seen then this attachment style. Like when I

1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was reading it, I've just never categorized myself so much.

1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I've always just thought I was a bit different with

1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:52.920
<v Speaker 1>my emotions. And when I saw it on paper, I

1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:55.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's actually a thing, and I'm actually that thing.

1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually that thing in that box. There's this one

1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:01.600
<v Speaker 1>statement that they put in this type of type of

1:02:01.720 --> 1:02:05.480
<v Speaker 1>style to explain it. They often make jokes to avoid

1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:08.480
<v Speaker 1>difficult conversations and feel anxious and trapped when a partner

1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:12.840
<v Speaker 1>expresses feelings. Now, this could not be more accurate. I

1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:16.480
<v Speaker 1>always have said, and I always do. My Bachelor Finale

1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:20.760
<v Speaker 1>is like testament to this. When I'm uncomfortable or upset

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>or feeling heightened emotions, I laugh and I joke. And

1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:27.640
<v Speaker 1>even when Nick was like, it's not you, you just laugh,

1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm laughing now. I laugh and I make jokes about it.

1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:33.240
<v Speaker 1>And if you can look back at any interview or

1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:35.000
<v Speaker 1>anything I've done, or even you guys know me on

1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, like as soon as it gets two d

1:02:36.960 --> 1:02:40.080
<v Speaker 1>by like make a lull. But when I remember when

1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I went and delivered this news to Sophie on my

1:02:42.720 --> 1:02:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor finale, it was all very big. She was bawling

1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:49.400
<v Speaker 1>her eyes out and I was in hysterics. I couldn't

1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:53.040
<v Speaker 1>stop laughing in my inside of me, I was like,

1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:58.040
<v Speaker 1>stop laughing because people think you're nuts. Like, people don't

1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:01.000
<v Speaker 1>get it, But that's how ideal with my heightened emotions

1:03:01.000 --> 1:03:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and when I'm upset, like it was a cry laughing.

1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I was crying because I was emotional. But I always

1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:08.680
<v Speaker 1>try and make light of a situation and like, but

1:03:08.720 --> 1:03:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I think so many people will relate to this, Like

1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:13.040
<v Speaker 1>humor really is a coping mechanism for so many people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a way that we are able to not look

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<v Speaker 1>like we're vulnerable, especially women, like women, a lot of women.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm guilty of this as well. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be vulnerable. I don't want to seem like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>weak or that I need someone to help me or

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<v Speaker 2>fix me. And it actually took me a really long

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<v Speaker 2>time to realize that there is power and vulnerability. And

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be the person as well that made

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of jokes whenever I was upset about something

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to be fine all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's fine. I'm the queen of using that word fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You're fine, We're fine, everything's fucking fine, to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where some of my friends have genuinely banned me using

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<v Speaker 1>the word fine, because it's okay to not be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Struggle you actually you still say you say oh so fine, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>So you say all the time fine, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're crying in the corner naked, You're not fine. That

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<v Speaker 1>was one time READI we said we'd never talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fine, but totally Like humor as a coping mechanism,

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<v Speaker 2>humor is something that we use to deflect our emotions,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's okay, there's nothing wrong with doing that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it can be healthy to actually unpack what those feelings

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<v Speaker 2>are and sit in feelings as well, because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>there is real power and vulnerability. And when you are

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<v Speaker 2>the person who is always fine and you're the person

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<v Speaker 2>who's always making jokes, you become the person who never

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<v Speaker 2>gets help because people don't want to reach out and

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<v Speaker 2>help someone who seems like they're always fine, they're always strong.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why it's really important to ask your friend

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<v Speaker 2>who seems like the one who's always got their shit

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<v Speaker 2>together and is always okay with every situation if they're

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<v Speaker 2>actually okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So they probably aren't. Sometimes they may be naked in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner and crying. It's funny. I've come a long way now.

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<v Speaker 1>I never ever ever told anyone I wasn't fine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I never cried to anyone. But now I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>small group of people laws then I'll just have my

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<v Speaker 1>cry break down on the phone and I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not okay. And that's it's been so helpful for

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<v Speaker 1>me to have that group of people to do that too,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I think it's finally letting me move in

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<v Speaker 1>the right direction. So I think this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>big thing, is to acknowledge that you're one of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're one of these styles, or that you have

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<v Speaker 1>principles of one of these styles. Just to acknowledge that,

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<v Speaker 1>have a think about it, and and work towards getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of that. So I think that's I've like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a really big thing for me to be vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>I am, and that's I don't know, it's great, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>bloody great, No, it is. But even when you and

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<v Speaker 1>I are crying on the phone sometimes, like we both

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We'll be upset about something, but then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>still be making jokes like deepest like in our tears,

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<v Speaker 1>like and then we're cracking up, but then we're still

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<v Speaker 1>really sad, but like we can't just be sad. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess like that also comes, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're a really independent person, when you felt like you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be the pillar of strength for yourself because

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, well, no one else is going to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's the outcome of it. And like we've

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<v Speaker 1>said at the beginning of this, there's no right or wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no bad way of being. You haven't done anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not broken, you're not deficient, you don't have issues

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<v Speaker 1>just because you're you're not sitting in a secure attachment

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<v Speaker 1>style just because you have traits of all these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've all been through some shit in our lives

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<v Speaker 1>that's affected us in different ways. That's made us skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of relationships, that's pushed us and pushed our boundaries. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's really healthy to understand what those things are so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can work towards becoming a secure attachment type.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all this is. It's not about shaming anyone for

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in a category or struggling with their emotions. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's going to be loads of people who

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to this episode who are like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm totally fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a totally normal attachment style. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>totally normal upbringing, and that's amazing. Like, there are people

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<v Speaker 2>out there who have been super fortunate. There are people

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<v Speaker 2>who have really fucked u childhoods. There are people who

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<v Speaker 2>have really fucked up relationships, like you, brit Like you

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<v Speaker 2>know you are like, well, my childhood was great, but

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<v Speaker 2>my first real relationship was so chaos, yeah, so messed

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<v Speaker 2>up that it then totally rewired my ability to trust

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<v Speaker 2>or to feel love again. That's why I find this

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting and so important because it allows you to

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<v Speaker 2>identify what's happening in your life and make changes to

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<v Speaker 2>have a better life. That was fucking deep.

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<v Speaker 1>That was deep. We're about to get deeper, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the last one. Number four. It's fearful avoidant attachment. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like I'm fucked, You're fucked, We're fucked. It's fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's fucked, where the laws on file and falls on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is also really important to know that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the absolute minority. This is five percent of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Four percent. There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>This is four percent of people who actually had this

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<v Speaker 2>as their predominant attachment style. And this is like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is some serious trauma shit. This is like you have

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<v Speaker 2>had an extremely traumatic childhood and it takes years of therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also often substance abuse or abuse of other kinds

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<v Speaker 2>that are involved in this attachment style.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is very rare, but it's very real. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a really hard one for these people that are in

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<v Speaker 1>this style because they're in this like constant conflict of

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to need. They really really want to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid relationships and are scared of it. But on the

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<v Speaker 1>other sense, they're craving it and they want it and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want love, but they really really don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be alone too, so they don't there's no balance

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And I can't imagine this fight and storm

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<v Speaker 1>that they would have in their mind because all they

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<v Speaker 1>want is this need to be loved and secure, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're so scared of it that they could think of

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<v Speaker 1>nothing worse. At the same time, like, how what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do in that situation? I think this is when

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<v Speaker 1>it's really really important to go and seek help, go

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<v Speaker 1>and see a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that sort of attachment style is something

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<v Speaker 2>you can really work through on your own. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if if the trauma is that deep seated and like

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<v Speaker 2>you want to feel loved but you're so fearful of

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<v Speaker 2>being loved that you lash out and push people away,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's when you have to go through some heavy

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<v Speaker 2>lifting with a therapist. There's lots of stuff to unpack there,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's lots of things about yourself and about your

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<v Speaker 2>relationships that you have to talk through.

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<v Speaker 1>And like we said earlier, you can change your attachment style.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to a RECOGNI so do the quiz.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many different quizzes. There are ones that

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<v Speaker 1>have like two hundred questions that are deep and they

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<v Speaker 1>go into every aspect of your life, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>are some that are like fifty questions. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>that are twenty five questions. We're going to put two

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<v Speaker 1>of them in the details for this podcast anyway, So

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<v Speaker 1>we both we both did a couple of them. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them I found really great because it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>very intensive questionnaire that you can do. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit more top level, so we'll put

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<v Speaker 1>them both in that way you can choose. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also think like during this time of twenty twenty crazy COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a.

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<v Speaker 2>Real amplifier for relationships. You know, this period of being

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<v Speaker 2>in lockdown with your partner, this period of like working

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<v Speaker 2>from home, spending all your fucking hand together, this is

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<v Speaker 2>really really put the microscope in a lot of relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>and for some of them it's galvanized, it's major relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Even better, it's made you absolutely certain that you are

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<v Speaker 2>with and supported by the person you love. And then

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<v Speaker 2>for other people it has really amplified the flaws and

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<v Speaker 2>made you go, holy shit, like this, we've got some

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<v Speaker 2>problems here, We've got some stuff we need to work on.

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<v Speaker 2>So do this attachment theory questionnaire and have these open

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<v Speaker 2>conversations with your partner along with your in the love

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<v Speaker 2>languages is one as well from a few episodgo because

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<v Speaker 2>that is bloody good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So just to summarize what therapists and psychologists do

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<v Speaker 1>say to do if you do want to try and

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<v Speaker 1>change your attachment style, this is gonna sound like very obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>We've said it a lot, but it's obviously so important

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<v Speaker 1>that every therapist always comes back to it. Number one

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<v Speaker 1>is just identify your relationship patterns. Just look back at

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<v Speaker 1>at like what Laura was saying, look back at your

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<v Speaker 1>past relationships. Hers were all the same, they were all toxic,

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<v Speaker 1>they were all because she was in a place of

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<v Speaker 1>need not want. So go back to your past relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and identify them. Assess your current and past attachment style.

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<v Speaker 1>See if these patterns are still relevant now or if

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<v Speaker 1>you slowly started to change. And the big big one,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems so damn obvious but none of us do

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<v Speaker 1>it enough, it's work on your self esteem. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>super common character stick across all of these insecure attachment styles.

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<v Speaker 1>To have low self esteem. You just need to learn

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<v Speaker 1>to embrace and love yourself and look after yourself first,

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<v Speaker 1>be okay on your own And we say that so much,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really really is so important to get to

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<v Speaker 1>a place where you're happy with who you are, You're

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<v Speaker 1>happy with where you're going, You're comfortable in your own

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<v Speaker 1>space and your own time and your own thoughts, and

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<v Speaker 1>from there, a whole new world opens up. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think if we all sit back and be really really

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<v Speaker 1>honest with ourself, all of us at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>time would have had issues with our confidence and self

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<v Speaker 1>esteem and we probably still struggle with that now. It fluctuates.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I even think now, like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I got to a point where I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel very self confident. I feel great about myself

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<v Speaker 2>now that I'm thirty four, and I feel like in

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<v Speaker 2>the last year I've aged about fucking seven hundred years

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<v Speaker 2>in a year. There are days where I feel totally

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<v Speaker 2>insecure again, Like it's just I think it's that level

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<v Speaker 2>of having self love. It's dynamic, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so happy for the people who are like Buddha and

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<v Speaker 2>feel enlightened and they've reached it, and not just on

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<v Speaker 2>the superficial social media level that we see all the

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<v Speaker 2>time where it's like love yourself, here's a photo.

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<v Speaker 1>Of my cellul lit. I mean really actually experiencing and

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<v Speaker 1>practicing self acceptance. I think it's very, very hard, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's no shame in saying that. Sometimes sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you practice self acceptance, sometimes you feel insecure about things

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself, and you know, it's dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>It shifts and you can. You just have to work

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<v Speaker 2>towards having that as more of a constant in your life. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that Brit put down Brit did the notes

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<v Speaker 2>for today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>For every episode, talking like every sixty episodes. I do

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<v Speaker 1>the research too, excuse me. Okay, So one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>BRIT's written down here, which I actually really think this

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<v Speaker 1>is great. You know, there's a lot of fruit through

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<v Speaker 1>around self love and self acceptance. There's a lot of like.

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<v Speaker 2>Woo, like love yourself no matter what, embrace everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>like that's great. But you know what, sometimes there's often

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<v Speaker 2>so much self acceptance talk, especially on social media, that

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't feel like you're at a point where

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<v Speaker 2>you totally love yourself, it almost makes you feel worse that,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody else is so fucking in love with themselves

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not. So I love myself that much totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes I have to switch off, totally switch off

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<v Speaker 2>and mute people because I'm like this, this constant conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about how accepting you are of yourself makes me feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not really winning because I'm like some days

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<v Speaker 2>I feel great and some days I still struggle with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like where I'm at. Yeah, and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when you know, to turn your social media

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<v Speaker 1>for a day or two totally. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that BRIT's written down, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is actually really great, is instead of like standing

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<v Speaker 2>in the mirror and telling yourself an affirmation that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't really believe, like, you know, maybe you think you

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<v Speaker 2>need to stand in the mirror and be like, I'm beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>I love myself, I'm worthy of love.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to say that. Why don't you start

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<v Speaker 1>with something that's more about self neutrality and like actually

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<v Speaker 1>accepting who you are, not loving yourself yet, but just

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<v Speaker 1>having some acceptance and being like, you know, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a good person, I am worthy of a relationship, I

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<v Speaker 1>am worthy of being loved. Like that is enough to

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<v Speaker 1>set you on the right path towards rewiring your brain

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<v Speaker 1>and convincing yourself, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, step it up when you feel it. Having a

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<v Speaker 2>good day, Yeah you look hot today, you looking hot.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the days that you're not feeling that, be

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<v Speaker 1>kind to yourself and be very conscious of your internal

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<v Speaker 1>monologue and the words that you're using to describe yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>because if they're not words that you would use to

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<v Speaker 1>describe your friend or somebody who you just met on

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<v Speaker 1>the street, that don't use them to describe yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of self neutrality.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that hey, you're saying neutrality, neutral neutral reality, neutrality neutrality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it didn't roll off the tongue. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're saying it right. In terms of coming to

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<v Speaker 1>self help talk with Britain Laura. In terms of self neutrality,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I would say to myself and I

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<v Speaker 1>still do say to myself is you deserve to be

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<v Speaker 1>treated the way you treat others. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good one because it's not I'm not pep talking

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<v Speaker 1>myself like yeah you look beautiful, you're hot, you've got this,

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<v Speaker 1>you can win the world. It's literally it's about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally just about saying like, you deserve to be

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<v Speaker 1>treated the way you treat other people. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a really good one to reset your brain

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<v Speaker 1>and your thought process and be like, no, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I do deserve this and I don't have to sell

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<v Speaker 1>for anything less. So I think that's a really good

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<v Speaker 1>one to start with when we're talking about this, like

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<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror thing yeah, totally. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>need a mirror. You don't need a mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, like, and this has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, but I'm gonna say it anyway because I

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<v Speaker 2>really really believe in it, Like, your worth is not

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<v Speaker 2>based on what you look like. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there is times where we really need to get away

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<v Speaker 2>from this idea that like, to be worthy and to

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<v Speaker 2>be successful, you need to be atypically beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Your worth is not based in your beauty. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>all gonna get old, we're all gonna get saggy, we're

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<v Speaker 2>all gonna get pigmentation, we're all gonna get wrinkles.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that pigmentation really, isn't it. Well, that's my jam.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know that that's the one thing that gets

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<v Speaker 1>me self conscious. But yeah, like we're all gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>those things. And if your worth is based in how

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<v Speaker 1>you look, then you're really going to struggle when that goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're getting pitted against twenty year olds

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<v Speaker 1>and you're in your late thirties, Like, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>work on having pillars of value that are not based

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<v Speaker 1>on your looks, which is what social media does to us.

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<v Speaker 1>These days, so like that is totally off topic, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that's a topic we should talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it completely. The other day, I know I could go

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<v Speaker 1>I was just about to launch into my own I

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<v Speaker 1>was about to be like intelligent and human. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a doing a three hour podcast and that's our whole

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<v Speaker 1>week gone, guys on this podcast. No, I think Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've gone into it some pretty solid depth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've covered a lot. The last thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, and we're not going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>this because there's so much into it, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make you aware of it. These attachment styles

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<v Speaker 1>can translate into your work life as well. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're having trouble at work, you're not progressing, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're in charge and you're having trouble with other people,

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<v Speaker 1>they can actually be bringing these attachment styles into their work.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so much information on that and the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to to flag that with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just something you think about if this triggers anything

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<v Speaker 1>with you, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>But also on top of that, it's not just like

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<v Speaker 2>when we've been talking about romantic relationships, because obviously that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that we focus so heavily on on this podcast.

1:17:12.640 --> 1:17:16.439
<v Speaker 2>But it regards to your friendships, in regards to your work,

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to like how you communicate and build relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>On a day to day level. Like it's all. It

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<v Speaker 1>affects all types of attachments and all types of relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>big and small. It's just that, you know, often the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest relationship that we kind of have to deal with

1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:32.559
<v Speaker 1>is a romantic one in our life. That can be

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<v Speaker 1>like the flagship one that all the others kind of

1:17:34.920 --> 1:17:38.000
<v Speaker 1>get compared against. Yeah, my biggest relationship is the one

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<v Speaker 1>I have with food, and that's a healthy one. Thank you, Brittany.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a solid one. All right, guys, it is time

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<v Speaker 1>to move on to the last segment that we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We never an episode without our sucking, our sweet, our highlights,

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<v Speaker 1>our lowlights, the best and the worst of our week.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this if you're new, hey, this can be trivial.

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<v Speaker 1>It could also be really serious. It just depends on

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<v Speaker 1>how your week's going. So Laura, you want to kick

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<v Speaker 1>it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, my suck for the week is that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I had a weekend at all. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>not a big suck.

1:18:21.320 --> 1:18:24.719
<v Speaker 1>But works being crazy, crazy crazy every day has felt

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<v Speaker 1>manic and they're not throwing on top of it the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we have to do two episodes a week,

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<v Speaker 1>which we love doing. Don't get me wrong, guys, but it's.

1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Just this constant I feel like it's a constant carousel

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<v Speaker 2>of work at the moment, which has been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>because we're also in between. I don't know, does any

1:18:39.439 --> 1:18:42.000
<v Speaker 2>mums out there? Did other mums struggle with this? I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't put Maley into daycare yet, and I'm really struggling

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<v Speaker 2>with the concept of putting her into daycare. And so

1:18:47.680 --> 1:18:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Matt and I and we have a babysitter a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days a week that comes for a few hours.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to manage that and it's just bedlam and

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<v Speaker 2>we're kind of drowning a little bit at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know that putting her into dayk would the

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<v Speaker 2>answer to this, but I just can't bring my mum

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<v Speaker 2>brain to put her into daycare.

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<v Speaker 1>Daycare can be I mean, I'm talking about my nieces

1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and nephews. I've got a lot of friends their kids

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<v Speaker 1>go to daycare. My nieces and nephews froth it. They

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<v Speaker 1>love it. It's where they learn to engage with the

1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:19.840
<v Speaker 1>other kids, they do paintings. It's literally they're learning social

1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:22.120
<v Speaker 1>skills from a young age. I think I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of parents have trouble and I think you're having

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<v Speaker 1>it with the attachment because you've been there every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that we've been talking about attachment issues, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. I know she'll love it, she'll

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<v Speaker 1>have the time of her life, and you need it,

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<v Speaker 1>like your brain needs.

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<v Speaker 2>Her to go to daycare. I never thought I would

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<v Speaker 2>be this sort of mom, Like I never thought I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought i'd be the sort of mom that's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's old enough, put her in daycare. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought i'd be really chill about this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're not. I'm so not. Like, I'm so not

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<v Speaker 1>the type of mum I thought I was going to be.

1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm way more I'm not that I'm anxious, but I'm

1:19:54.640 --> 1:19:58.479
<v Speaker 1>way more sensitive about, you know, letting go of these

1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:01.439
<v Speaker 1>baby times and like allowing her to be taken care

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<v Speaker 1>of by somebody else. Like this is something I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>really struggling with.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also is impeding on my ability to do

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<v Speaker 2>work and just to have a normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Life in general.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I feel like I have absolutely no time

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<v Speaker 2>for myself as a human that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a mom or a work person. That was that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also feel like I can't speak. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you start with like one day a week and just

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<v Speaker 1>get a feel for it. I mean, you need it.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot do you run two businesses and your mom Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I basically physically can't.

1:20:33.000 --> 1:20:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely and something has to tip it eventually. But

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<v Speaker 2>like right now, at this period in my life, my

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<v Speaker 2>suck of the week is that I'm dealing with the

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<v Speaker 2>anxieties around putting Molly into daycare.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my suck. Yeah, okay, well I'm gonna help you

1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:45.639
<v Speaker 1>with that. Let's do one day a week and we'll

1:20:45.640 --> 1:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>work from there. You can hang out with me on

1:20:47.120 --> 1:20:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that day, Okay, Right, I'm like, and I don't need advice.

1:20:50.200 --> 1:20:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I just need other moms to say it's okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>fucking get you. It's exactly how I feel. And so

1:20:55.120 --> 1:20:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm running myself into the ground because I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be daycare mom and everything, daycare mom, business owner, everything,

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<v Speaker 1>my sweet for the week, my sweet for the week

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<v Speaker 1>is also business related. So even though business has been

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy, Tony May things are great. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new range coming out, and I've just spent the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days shooting that range. All of our

1:21:15.240 --> 1:21:19.879
<v Speaker 1>content amazing, all of our campaign imagery. I'm so stoked.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm that's going to be coming out late the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks. So I'm like, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a really proud mum because my second baby just

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<v Speaker 1>had a baby. I'm not even just saying this because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a cheerleader. I just wants some free stuff. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually never had anything from her. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>like people to know this. I'm not using this for

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship I've never had any I have never given

1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>britt Any free Tony mail. I need to. I feel

1:21:43.040 --> 1:21:45.200
<v Speaker 1>guilty using my friends to HOWK my stuff and I

1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>would never ask, So, like, bitch, I want some a

1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.880
<v Speaker 1>It's Britt's birthday this week, so my god, I'll know

1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>what she's getting from me. She's gonna get a whole

1:21:53.760 --> 1:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>horde of Tony made jewels. I actually forgot it my

1:21:57.040 --> 1:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>birthday in like three days. Oh my god. No, I've

1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:03.639
<v Speaker 1>seen Laura's stuff. She shows me the campaign as it's

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<v Speaker 1>going and it's actually insane, like I had to pick

1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>my job off the ground and keep your eyes out

1:22:07.120 --> 1:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>for that one episode. It's brought to you by Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Mate and uh yeah, so Tony May sponsor jump online,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony May dot com dot you you may as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's streaky business. Okay, my suck. I'm same as you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a kid, but I feel like I've

1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>got a kid. I don't know why I do it

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<v Speaker 1>to myself. I actually think it might be a thing

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<v Speaker 1>because of because I'm single. I like to be busy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just because you're a massacres and you

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<v Speaker 1>like to you get joy out of like blowing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>through pain. Well, I don't have no. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like I don't know what. I've gotten to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where I don't know what to do with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have free time, I physically I go. I'm weird.

1:22:47.920 --> 1:22:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what do I do now? That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>just like go for more runs and stuff. This is

1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>so brit always wears active wear so that when she

1:22:54.000 --> 1:22:56.479
<v Speaker 1>has free time, if she's sitting at home by herself,

1:22:56.520 --> 1:22:58.719
<v Speaker 1>she can just go for a walk. Like I actually

1:22:58.720 --> 1:23:01.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know brit to sit still. It sometimes makes me

1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:04.679
<v Speaker 1>feel anxious because she's always doing something. Now like thinking

1:23:04.680 --> 1:23:07.960
<v Speaker 1>about it, I'm like, that's actually I perpetually. I went

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<v Speaker 1>into Mama Mia last week because I had to do

1:23:09.920 --> 1:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a podcast with him and Kelly Bless you. I know

1:23:12.800 --> 1:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>you're listening high. Kelly was the host of the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was dressed up beautifully and I looked in

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, oh, and you're active way and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, like just in case I need

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<v Speaker 1>to go for a walk. After she was like, what

1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the hell is wrong, I was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I need to be ready for anything at any time.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to be ready for any compulsive walking that

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<v Speaker 1>has to just happen. Oh but no, my psyche is

1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>literally especially now I've just started filming this short film.

1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Work at the hospital is nuts. This podcast is going nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram's going nuts. I'm not complaining, but I've just booked

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<v Speaker 1>myself in every minute of the day from like six

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<v Speaker 1>am to ten pm. Love it, but girl's tired. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, I guess in this current climate, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to appreciate the fact that you are busy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>those people out there who are struggling and who would

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<v Speaker 2>give any to be busy during this time. So like

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<v Speaker 2>perspective is important, and we both are very grateful that

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<v Speaker 2>we are able to be crazy during a time where

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<v Speaker 2>like things are so fucking uncertain.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's why people are like, why do you work

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<v Speaker 1>so much? Why do you work at the hospital so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you? And I said, because I'm forever grateful

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<v Speaker 1>that I have the opportunity to work, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>never ever take that for granted. And also, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing influence and stuff on the side, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where my next meal ticket's coming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just got to say yeah. I'm like, but my

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<v Speaker 1>sweet is like, well, actually this could have been my

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<v Speaker 1>suck to. My family has decided to do like this

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<v Speaker 1>family bonding. Oh I saw. I know. You would think

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<v Speaker 1>family bonding would be like weekend away or let's like

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<v Speaker 1>have a board game pizza night, But no, my family

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<v Speaker 1>have decided to do an off track like a trail

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<v Speaker 1>run through the jungle. I say the jungle because it's

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<v Speaker 1>more dramatic. It's the bush. It's the bush through the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian jungle. A half marathon where you have to carry

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<v Speaker 1>you back pack with like space blankets and whistles and food,

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<v Speaker 1>and they all think that this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. So that's what we've done. We've signed up

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<v Speaker 1>for family bonding hunger games essentially. That is literally my

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<v Speaker 1>idea of hell on Earth. Like I would rather but

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<v Speaker 1>my brother in Lauren, brother and sister in Laura doing

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<v Speaker 1>it like it's a i'ld rather break my ankle. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole big thing. My dad's sixty four, he's Papa

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<v Speaker 1>tones He's so fit. The man gets up at like

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<v Speaker 1>four thirty every morning. He does and trains before he

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<v Speaker 1>goes like he does pull ups and push ups and

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<v Speaker 1>waits before he goes to work as a builder for night.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's insane and he's the one frothing and he's like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>let's all go and do this. And I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only doing it for my dad. I'm like, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>this because I bloody love you. And if my sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four year old daddy's doing it, how can I say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your mom doing it. Oh no, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the water girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm right there with Missy. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bring I'll bring the kool aid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. If you knew my mom too, that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>surprise you. She'll be there with the watermelon. Yeah. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, I will cheer you on the sideline. I'm like, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the bush. There's no sideline. She's like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Bo's like, I cheer you in spirit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's sweet for you. Sounds like a terrible, terrible suck.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad that we, you know, have our opposites.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we just talk about this is the longest podcast

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever done. We had so we were so chatty today,

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<v Speaker 1>so chatty, but also the last episode, the sex Ologist

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<v Speaker 1>one that we did was a bloody banger of an

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<v Speaker 1>episode and a long one too, brit We just get

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<v Speaker 1>in this room and can't stop ourselves. We had some

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<v Speaker 1>really great feedback from the Sexology Chat as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're glad you guys like that, and I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys got something from that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We will actually do another Sexologist Chat in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you do have any other questions, sexy questions,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that you want to know, things that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we won't answer, we will file that shit and

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<v Speaker 2>keep it safe for when we have either either Juliet

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<v Speaker 2>Allen or a different sexologists on board who can answer

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<v Speaker 2>some variety or varied questions. But yeah, if guys, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have any ideas of people that you want us

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<v Speaker 2>to interview on this podcast, send them on over as well.

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<v Speaker 1>my bedroom so that I can put them on speaker. Guys,

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