Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Britney Spears, at the time thirty
Speaker 1: nine years old, had spent the last thirteen years living
Speaker 1: under a conservative ship. Is that too many numbers so far?
Speaker 1: I'm doing girl math right now. It's that's like the
Speaker 1: cool thing at the moment, girl girl math whatever. No
Speaker 1: one really does. This is degrading to women. I don't know.
Speaker 1: People love saying it though I've got my account. A
Speaker 1: woman's fantastic. We should start saying boy math. Yeah, it's okay,
Speaker 1: we're doing goy math. Doing boy math. In court, she
Speaker 1: spoke out publicly for over twenty minutes about her harrowing
Speaker 1: experience under the thumb of her father Jamie Spears and
Speaker 1: lawyer Andrew Wallat. No, that is not a joke. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. Is that that's called nominative determinism.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, when your name is your job, like if you're
Speaker 1: Craig Baker and you're a Baker, great, great, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that. Since the establishment of Spears's conservativeship, she had
Speaker 1: released four albums, headlined a global tour that grossed one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one million dollars and performed for four
Speaker 1: years in her Las Vegas residency, yet her conservatives deemed
Speaker 1: her unfit to take care of herself. They had control
Speaker 1: of a spending communications and personal decisions. This is a
Speaker 1: story of the Free Britney movement. It's Britney bitch, It's
Speaker 1: Britney bitch. And we can reference George is not here
Speaker 1: of course, Yeah yeah, yeah, let's not pretend that she's here.
Speaker 1: She didn't speak because I do such great impression, great gread,
Speaker 1: this would be great. This is so good. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome to not Another Crime podcast. I'm Sammy Peterson and
Speaker 1: I am not a journalist. I'll just say that right
Speaker 1: up front. I'm not a goddamn journal A very quick
Speaker 1: message from me aka semip letting you know that she
Speaker 1: was sick this week when we recorded, and instead I
Speaker 1: was joined by the Great Joel Creasy and decided to
Speaker 1: actually have a less grisly murder story this week and
Speaker 1: give you all a very well deserved break. But still
Speaker 1: in the realm of crime. I am talking about the
Speaker 1: Free Britney Movement, the great Britney Spears Icon Britney Spears,
Speaker 1: and in the same vein, I want to let you
Speaker 1: know that Joel and I get very excited around each other,
Speaker 1: continue to talk, have a great time, and I will
Speaker 1: break up this episode by bringing in some facts about Britney,
Speaker 1: so at some point it will just be me just talking,
Speaker 1: just delivering the facts. And then Joel and I discussed
Speaker 1: more about Britney and some of the things that kind
Speaker 1: of happened around that time. I hope you enjoy this episode.
Speaker 1: Gee will be back this coming Thursday in a Thursday
Speaker 1: Treat episode which is a murder story this week, so
Speaker 1: you get this episode is just an overview of the
Speaker 1: Britney Spears conservativeship and we'll be back with the mail
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Speaker 1: the links are in the show notes below. It's Brittany Bitch. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's start Mickey Mouse Club. Were you Team Brittany or
Speaker 1: Team Christina? Always team Brittany. Who are you team Christina? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I love Christina Aguilera. I went and saw
Speaker 1: her in Perth at the Burswood Dome which was the
Speaker 1: old theater in Perth Theater Stadium and it was held
Speaker 1: up by like a like a like a helium sort
Speaker 1: of dome. And when you exited because of the I
Speaker 1: guess the air pressure, you get like blown out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have security catch you on the other side of
Speaker 1: the door. God. Yeah. That's also where they had the
Speaker 1: Hopman Cup, which was the Perth tennis tournament, where I
Speaker 1: was a bull boy. Were you actually yes, I was
Speaker 1: a ball a boy for the concert. Throw a ball
Speaker 1: at because you know when you see the ball kids,
Speaker 1: ball boys, boy kids, ball kids, the top ball kid
Speaker 1: one at the net. Yes, that's experienced. You get to
Speaker 1: stay at the net the whole time, just in case
Speaker 1: you're gonna run across. Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, and often
Speaker 1: you mon't get hit by a ball. The most exciting bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was not. I never got net, but I
Speaker 1: was up the back and Serena hit me with the
Speaker 1: ball once and that bruise, like, I wish it stayed
Speaker 1: for life. Yeah she could designed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh go your tattoo. I love that, but tattoo the
Speaker 1: band other things she's said, I don't think she's sad
Speaker 1: and are they fake lesbians or not. Remember that its controversy.
Speaker 1: Oh also, yeah, I'll get back to it. Tattoo when
Speaker 1: I was commentating Eurovision with Beautiful before hers, Yeah, Tattoo,
Speaker 1: the band the Foe whatever they were commentate Eurovision for Russia.
Speaker 1: Do they really They are in the commentary booth next
Speaker 1: to Oh my God because they're legends. Yeah. With that
Speaker 1: one song, Capital T little a Capital T listener, it's
Speaker 1: so confusing to spell. I can never get it right.
Speaker 1: I know, at least at Nova, you know, we keep
Speaker 1: it really familiar. I don't think, just know. That's our
Speaker 1: current catch phrase. Now I should say Georgie Love is
Speaker 1: not here today, but she said I want someone who
Speaker 1: is like me, another gay man. So crazy. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what she said because she's not here. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's weird giving compliments to people's face and something you
Speaker 1: and I do, like you get you get so uncomfortable
Speaker 1: when someone starts complimenting you. She is so great, she's
Speaker 1: so great, she's so great, she's so funny. I just
Speaker 1: think she's such a talent. She has such a beautiful
Speaker 1: speaking voice. Yeah, yeah, you really should be anchoring like
Speaker 1: a primetime news show. And she's so beautiful, so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I forget every I've known a for years, hung out
Speaker 1: so many times, every single time, I'm like, oh that's right,
Speaker 1: you're stunning. Yeah yeah, well you forget because there's so
Speaker 1: many other qualities to her, like she's so fucking funny
Speaker 1: all the time, and she's really britiitue. Yes. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a beautiful photo of her as a child to your
Speaker 1: people left that she thought I wouldn't hang up, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm going to hang that out.
Speaker 1: That is so funny. She's also the gayest man Ever's
Speaker 1: the gayest man? Like, where is she right now? New York? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's pretating to be sick so she can go to
Speaker 1: New York for five hours, I know, seeing Hamilton show time.
Speaker 1: So what was I saying? So you were talking about
Speaker 1: the concert? Yeah, and Bulkid and then I'll get back
Speaker 1: to the concert. Oh my gosh, this is okay. So
Speaker 1: bull Kid, I was put on drinks duty, so that's
Speaker 1: kind of like your lower ranking bull Kid, and I
Speaker 1: was fabulous on drinks. It's getting like the powerade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going like, Kim Cloisters, what would you like? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, like, what can I make you. And also
Speaker 1: I was such a huge Kim Clysis fan growing up
Speaker 1: because I used to play competitive tennis. Loved Belgian number
Speaker 1: one Kim Cleisters so much. I had my tennis racket,
Speaker 1: I had the grip the same color as her, the
Speaker 1: same brand babbalat the same shock absorber. And we were
Speaker 1: waiting to walk out because one because I'm hotting cup
Speaker 1: is country versus country. Okay, sure I got to walk
Speaker 1: the Belgian flag out for Kim Cleisters. Wow. And this
Speaker 1: is when she was dating Lane and Hewett and twelve
Speaker 1: year old Joel in a legionnaire's cap because we were
Speaker 1: sponsored by like Sun Smart even though it was an
Speaker 1: indoor event. Terrible name for a cap, by the way,
Speaker 1: like it's also a disease which the legion and that's
Speaker 1: the cap is so ugly. I probably hardly get the disease.
Speaker 1: I said to Kim Clisters, you're too good for Layton.
Speaker 1: They broke They broke up a month later. Yes, I
Speaker 1: said that almost did no as like will as the
Speaker 1: Belgian national anthem was playing. Whether she heard me or not,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they brought it al. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: So you broke those two up. Oh my god, Now
Speaker 1: the concert that you went to, what did you think
Speaker 1: when you saw this Christina Aguilra. So this is when
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, she's pregnant and she was pretending
Speaker 1: not to be. On the screens were these like amazing
Speaker 1: images of her, like walking backstage, and we meant to
Speaker 1: imagine it was at the Birdswood Dome, and I guess
Speaker 1: because they used the same the same vision everywhere and
Speaker 1: she's in this like amazing This was during the you know,
Speaker 1: the candy Man sort of sixties zero. Yeah, this amazing
Speaker 1: tight white suit with a little like white fedora. And
Speaker 1: then and it's like as if she's about to come
Speaker 1: out onto stage, but she comes out in a completely different,
Speaker 1: altered sort of suit, all everything taken out, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. And that was the last show. She canceled
Speaker 1: the rest of the Australian tour. Oh wow, because she
Speaker 1: had a fight with Carl gais the only reason. What
Speaker 1: a reference? Just reference? Well, you're talking about the Nckey
Speaker 1: Mouse Club and it you like the most. But she
Speaker 1: was so good life. She is one of the great vocalists.
Speaker 1: But then I went and saw her last year at
Speaker 1: Flemington Racecourse. She had a racecods. I think she was
Speaker 1: number seventeen. And no, she did a like a festival
Speaker 1: and the weather was so bad. It wasn't the one
Speaker 1: with tea pain or something. Was that there was a
Speaker 1: boy of course and was better. Wow, admittedly the weather
Speaker 1: was not on Christina side. Yeah, sure, it was so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'd be great live, she'd be so much fun. So
Speaker 1: that have you seen Britney? Yes, so I saw Brittany
Speaker 1: in the burrs Were Dome, the same place. It's it's
Speaker 1: now off to stadium and no, so she comes out
Speaker 1: she's doing the Circus tour. This is when stuff's really
Speaker 1: starting to go down with Brittany and people are starting
Speaker 1: to go is everything okay? They're as talking about the
Speaker 1: lip syncing at this time. Weren't they a lot of
Speaker 1: lip sync? Yeah? And this is before Perez Hilton was canceled.
Speaker 1: So Perez is like kind of doing this big intro
Speaker 1: about Perez Hill. Yeah, never forget, you know, the penises
Speaker 1: on the face. And and it's a concert where the
Speaker 1: stage is in the middle. So Brittany arrives, everyone cheers
Speaker 1: and then Brittany goes in Perth and she goes, Hello Brisbane.
Speaker 1: For any other artist, the crowd would turn on you,
Speaker 1: but the Perth crowd were like, yes, we've got we've
Speaker 1: got crazy Britney. We don't care that you don't know
Speaker 1: where you are. It's better for us if you don't. Yes,
Speaker 1: But now all the Britney videos go dancing with the nice.
Speaker 1: There is so much going on. And also, like people
Speaker 1: became obsessed with the Instagram and I want to kind
Speaker 1: of long caption the long captions. I want to get
Speaker 1: you back on at some point to talk about don't
Speaker 1: fuck with cats where people actually did the did like
Speaker 1: internet sleuths did something good for one. Yeah, Body Movin
Speaker 1: and John Green, the two like that were they were
Speaker 1: their Internet aliases. Yeah, yeah, biggest nerds ever tracked down
Speaker 1: a serial killer obsessed wild But Britney I'm right across
Speaker 1: because we talk about her a lot of Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: have you seen the footage of her recently doing the
Speaker 1: dance you know with the weird sort of yeah, what
Speaker 1: do they call those tops? They're like, was the bally
Speaker 1: dance one that she did?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: She always saw its a little of dancing, you know,
Speaker 1: on the house. Improly it's jazz dance. Yeah, she loves
Speaker 1: the little belly dancing. You know, she's like ten years
Speaker 1: They add a and who I once met and she
Speaker 1: said to me, I'm really good friends with the comedian
Speaker 1: And I said her and she said, Joe Christy get out.
Speaker 1: This was like ten years ago. Look do you know
Speaker 1: why she would have said that. I used to write
Speaker 1: jokes for ten years? Did you really had some sort
Speaker 1: of online series? And I was writing some jokes for
Speaker 1: her and she's for everyone is from Who Dares Win?
Speaker 1: Who Dares Win? Which is so funny because an episode
Speaker 1: that's coming out this week, we talk about Mike Whitney
Speaker 1: for a very long time and ten years Lada comes up, so, oh, Michael, yeah,
Speaker 1: because if Mike Whitney, So if the person they asked
Speaker 1: to do the dare wouldn't do the dare, then Mike
Speaker 1: would do it. And then remember sometimes ten years iad
Speaker 1: it would do the dare and I was like little
Speaker 1: gay was like and also looking back, the dares were
Speaker 1: so light, so lame. I remember one where it was
Speaker 1: like always in a shopping center and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're jumping.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: This was one where there was like would you get
Speaker 1: naked in a sleeping on that show. And then and
Speaker 1: then Mike always went and got the clothes that was
Speaker 1: his bit and walked up, Hey, Mike, good stuff, still
Speaker 1: good stuff. Well, I remember doing a gig with Fiona
Speaker 1: Lachlan and had the comics lounge and ten year's Ada
Speaker 1: came along because this is around the time to see
Speaker 1: Joe Christie, her favorite Joe Christie. He's great, sounds like
Speaker 1: great Christie, like a US politician. And she came up
Speaker 1: to Fiona and I and sort of like, kind of
Speaker 1: she's really lovely and very in person. Tanya's very enigmatic
Speaker 1: and you kind of like draws you in. And she
Speaker 1: came up to Fionna and I and she goes, I
Speaker 1: love humor, she told, she told, she told me that
Speaker 1: she loves jokes. Yeah, I love jokes. And the second
Speaker 1: she left the room, Fiona and I were like, well,
Speaker 1: I love air, I love water, Yeah, I love breathing,
Speaker 1: I love sleeping, I love him, I love humor. I
Speaker 1: don't do it myself, but I love to watch. But
Speaker 1: she would thought it was a real insightful yeah comment,
Speaker 1: And I don't want ten years out of any other way.
Speaker 1: That's exactly the person you imagine for sure.
Speaker 2: What you don't realize is that Britney's making you all
Speaker 2: this money and all you do is write a bunch
Speaker 2: of crap about her. She hasn't performed on stage in years.
Speaker 2: Her song ist God Give Me More for a reason
Speaker 2: because all you people one is more and more and
Speaker 2: more and more and more alone.
Speaker 1: And the Free Britney movement was such a thing where
Speaker 1: it was like Chris Crocker was the first person to
Speaker 1: come out and say leave Britain, that's right, which was
Speaker 1: like two thousand and seven. Yeah, and that was like
Speaker 1: kind of early days of YouTube, I want to say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, and Chris Crocker became a huge star
Speaker 1: around that time. Yeah, he surely drew like an I'm
Speaker 1: a celebrity appearance, But it was It was such an
Speaker 1: interesting time because people went, there's something going on with Britney,
Speaker 1: but no one really knew exactly what to And because
Speaker 1: when was the kiss with Madonna on stage? Oh god,
Speaker 1: that would have been early two thousands, I think, because
Speaker 1: wouldn't Christina have been pissed because sheer this Madonna too,
Speaker 1: but they cut away really yeah, but that Madonna kissed
Speaker 1: Christina first and then Brittany. So Brittany got Christina Christina
Speaker 1: sloppy second, but they do a cut away to the audience.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this was double a dirty day. So
Speaker 1: when Christine had like the really raggedy black hair, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that leave Britney alone. It was iconic. And
Speaker 1: also so many people have told me that I look
Speaker 1: like him, really Chris Crocker, I'm like, cool, thanks, what
Speaker 1: the guy the guy on YouTube over a person he
Speaker 1: doesn't even know and say, remember the line, if you
Speaker 1: want to go to Brittany, You're gonna have to go
Speaker 1: through me. Hilarious, And I think even Brittany was like, hilario,
Speaker 1: take that. I don't want to know. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be hard. That's like a feather.
Speaker 2: Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash
Speaker 2: someone who's going through our time?
Speaker 1: Bretty alone?
Speaker 2: Please leave Britney Spruce alone right now a minute. Anyone
Speaker 2: who has a problem with her, you deal with me
Speaker 2: because she's not well right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Conservativeships, there aren't that many like public
Speaker 1: conservative ships. It's so conservativeship for people that don't know
Speaker 1: is kind of you're under some sort of like illegal
Speaker 1: guardian when you can't take care of yourself. A lot
Speaker 1: of the time. It's for people with Alzheimer's. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't take over them to take care of their own
Speaker 1: finances and everything. Wendy Williams is apparently under one. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams. Yeah, waiting for the
Speaker 1: people that you would know. Okay, I'll come back and
Speaker 1: do don't fuck your cats and they I'll come back
Speaker 1: and do. Wendy Williams. What about when she wasssed this
Speaker 1: is the statue of Liberty and fa Yeah. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: Amanda Bindes is the other one that's under Conservative ship
Speaker 1: at the same time. Amanda Bynes is a bit like
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lynghan could have had an oscar in it. Absolutely
Speaker 1: still could. I think Lindsay still could. Yeah, after Freaky
Speaker 1: Friday too, it's a sorry get a freaky freaky freaky,
Speaker 1: but the first one was really fun, so much fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So basically a conservative ship for people that don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it like being a child again and your adults
Speaker 1: are in the parents. Yeah. Yeah, it's like kind of
Speaker 1: like just having I guess power of attorney is when
Speaker 1: someone can actually say you're going to take care of
Speaker 1: this stuff for me. I I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: They don't have but they actually vocalize that or write
Speaker 1: it down. Okay. And a conservativeship is when someone else
Speaker 1: takes over, including finance, including finance, so you're not even
Speaker 1: allowed to like buy a coffee. Well no, so you
Speaker 1: have an allowance in a conservative ship. So which is
Speaker 1: the stuff that we're going to get into is that
Speaker 1: Jamie her dad started to take control of her finances
Speaker 1: and everything wage and it got really horrible really quickly.
Speaker 1: Like it's a yeah. Look, I was saying to someone
Speaker 1: the other day, like I think I might need a Carara.
Speaker 1: That's a bit different to being like so nice. I
Speaker 1: had a PA for seven years. Yeah, I've gone a
Speaker 1: year without one. Did you call did she call them
Speaker 1: your cara? Essentially? Yeah, came fed you. Yeah, to give
Speaker 1: a walk being a dog kid, I know. I mean
Speaker 1: I was late today. I'm late everywhere, but on gates
Speaker 1: or drag time. You told me that, you said gates
Speaker 1: always run late. Yeah, we call it drag time. A
Speaker 1: drag show will never go up on time. Say the
Speaker 1: drag show is at ten pm. Yeah, those girls are going
Speaker 1: on a twenty five because they're backstage learning the curry
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, so Joel, today,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a little bit about Britney
Speaker 1: spears and you you know a lot of this stuff anyway,
Speaker 1: so I don't yeah, yeah, need to be more informed.
Speaker 1: You're going to learn all of this stuff about Britney
Speaker 1: and then you're going to be a Britney expert. Maybe
Speaker 1: it'll be Pritzburg, maybe it'll be a convert Kin. Well,
Speaker 1: I can, I can. I can change you from loving
Speaker 1: Christina and seeing Christina every time. I don't think you no,
Speaker 1: I don't think you about to change it because Brittany,
Speaker 1: this is what I always have a debate about. I
Speaker 1: don't think she's a gay icon. Right. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of like, like how we choose gay icons is very weird.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Christine is a gay icon, nor would
Speaker 1: Colleen gay. So how are they picked? Like happen? It
Speaker 1: just happens anyone with the surname and Brendan Madonna, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: Gaga probably, yeah, Chris Jenna, it's Piggy, Yes, huge gay
Speaker 1: icon one of the originals share icon. But that's so obvious. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but Brittany maybe not, maybe not Julie Hillard Weirdly maybe
Speaker 1: a gay icon, even though she didn't pass gay marriage.
Speaker 1: It's just we have a weird set of rystols and
Speaker 1: then it either comes across Magda or my desk and
Speaker 1: we stamp it and then you've got your gay. It
Speaker 1: just says gay. Yeah, she gave a gay icon. So
Speaker 1: on July fourteenth, twenty twenty one, Britney Spears gave her
Speaker 1: court testimony. I have been in shock. I am traumatized.
Speaker 1: You know, fake till you make it. But now I'm
Speaker 1: telling you the truth. Okay. I'm not happy. I can't sleep.
Speaker 1: I'm so angry it's insane, and I'm depressed. I cry
Speaker 1: every day. So maybe you can understand the depth and
Speaker 1: the degree and the damage that they did to me
Speaker 1: back then. I want changes and I want changes going forward.
Speaker 1: I deserve changes. So that was her court testimony to
Speaker 1: get Jamie Spears her father away. So when she says
Speaker 1: they did to me, she's talking about gay parents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Lynn and and Jamie are two parents that she's
Speaker 1: talking about. Because the sister as well, Yeah, who was
Speaker 1: in the film Crossroads. I believe do you know I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen it because she's not a
Speaker 1: gay icon. That's I know, very I mean the thing though,
Speaker 1: there would be people that go, know she is a
Speaker 1: gay icon. There's debate, there's debate. Would you have a
Speaker 1: debate about it? Do you think that you would? Who
Speaker 1: would be the first? I do the great debate Forum
Speaker 1: Comedy Festival. I'll run past them and is Brittany a
Speaker 1: gay icon?
Speaker 2: On?
Speaker 1: It's so fun? Yeah, can't wait to see Tom Gleason
Speaker 1: debating that one. A few days later, Brittany took to
Speaker 1: instagram dot com to thank her fans for their ongoing support.
Speaker 1: The hashtag she wrote was free Britney. I remember online
Speaker 1: slits would tell Britney that if she needed help, she
Speaker 1: should wear a yellow shirt. Remember this in one of
Speaker 1: her videos, And the next day Britney wore a yellow shirt.
Speaker 1: Was this conspiracy theory or was it actually happening in
Speaker 1: front of everyone's eyes? So that was a big thing.
Speaker 1: Everyone went she shaved her head at one point, So
Speaker 1: I was going to say, over in cancer, when did
Speaker 1: the shaving the head? Two thousand and seven? And was
Speaker 1: that when she was hitting the bonet of the yep?
Speaker 1: Because there was a paparazzo that she was not a
Speaker 1: fan of it. Oh, tell me about it. I would
Speaker 1: have done the same. You are with an umbrella most
Speaker 1: of the time. You hit there with onever do you know?
Speaker 1: I when I get papped, it's always when they're waiting
Speaker 1: for someone else at the airport. So like I'll be
Speaker 1: walking through the airport, the pap will see me and
Speaker 1: he'll go, okay, pick up his camera and go click
Speaker 1: and put it back down because he's waiting for like
Speaker 1: Sam Frost or something. Right, do you continually walk back
Speaker 1: from forth like at that time You're like, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: don't bother? Yeah, don't yeah. Yeah. Once when I got
Speaker 1: properly papped, like they were waiting for me, I was
Speaker 1: going for lunch in Sant Kilda with Chrisy's one and
Speaker 1: perhaps are waiting and my mom stopped and posed like
Speaker 1: she was on like a red carpet you meant to
Speaker 1: walk past? Could I have that when on the way out?
Speaker 1: Could you air drop that to So the question is, Joel,
Speaker 1: how did Britney get here? How did a global icon
Speaker 1: slip through the cracks? The pressure on her was insane.
Speaker 1: There were so many expectations on one of the most
Speaker 1: famous people in the world. Britney seemed really lonely. She
Speaker 1: didn't seem to have anyone she could really trust. So
Speaker 1: today on the podcast, we're not talking about Grizly murders
Speaker 1: for once, I having a little break. Joel's here instead
Speaker 1: of Georgia, and we're talking about the Free Britney movement
Speaker 1: and how the pop princess lost all of her freedom.
Speaker 1: So it started with Mickey mouse Club. Everything always starts
Speaker 1: with Mickey mouse Club. But I can't name anyone else
Speaker 1: apart from Brittany and Christina that came from there, but
Speaker 1: I know it was Selena, go Timberlake? What was what
Speaker 1: was your the JT? This is going to ru JT. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going to run the tour? What tour I've kind
Speaker 1: of been obsessed with for a long time. The justin
Speaker 1: Timberlake dancing Now I know, which is so like I
Speaker 1: w sexy back to what once again? In that same
Speaker 1: birds would Die and we had blown out the door
Speaker 1: and I was on Rove Live and remember he was
Speaker 1: on Rove Live back in the day, and he was
Speaker 1: talking about Rove Live asked him the question something like
Speaker 1: not who would you turn gay? For, but he probably
Speaker 1: did ask him that he used always ask that was
Speaker 1: his question. And remember when former Prome Minister Kevin Rudd
Speaker 1: was on and he said who would you turn gay for?
Speaker 1: And he says my wife to raise? Oh, that's right,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, isn't it to rese But he always
Speaker 1: says to raise, always to raise? Isn't she like minted
Speaker 1: hinted she had a billionaire? I think yeah. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so JT was on there and and he it wasn't
Speaker 1: Pink every birthday, but I must have had the rigging,
Speaker 1: you know, to come down in the silks. I'm like,
Speaker 1: can Pink sing a song on the ground? I don't
Speaker 1: know she can. If she can, she has to be
Speaker 1: in flight. Her vocals don't work normal furious she didn't
Speaker 1: get alphbetm wicked. But but yeah, so I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember him being on there and going, you know,
Speaker 1: you're making sexy music. Like, how do you feel about,
Speaker 1: you know, people making love listening to your music? That
Speaker 1: was the big question at the time. And I think
Speaker 1: Justin because because I call him Justin because of JT's
Speaker 1: music back because of his music back then, people did
Speaker 1: kind of go, he's really cool. He's really But then
Speaker 1: all this stuff started to come out about Brittany and
Speaker 1: how he treated Brittany. Oh Brittany has destroyed Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: which was fascinating to watch. So we talked about Chris
Speaker 1: Crocker before. Who's now Kara Cunningham who posted the leave
Speaker 1: Britney Alone video back in the day in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. Real pioneer people have always been passionate about
Speaker 1: Britney spears like Chris Crocker, really passionate. When Brittany started
Speaker 1: posting memes and doing fashion shows in her house or
Speaker 1: dancing by herself, dancing with knights, the Internet was very
Speaker 1: quick to make fun of her, kind of like an
Speaker 1: Amy winehouse. Yeah, you know, and I mean I wish
Speaker 1: I had her house, but yeah it's hideous. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean those tiles. And then the other day there was
Speaker 1: like he's a DoD shit. If you haven't already seen this,
Speaker 1: I would urge everyone listening to look up doctor Phil's house.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Doctor Phil's house? No, it is
Speaker 1: the worst house you've had sex. It's so gross. You
Speaker 1: have to all show you after this. Really, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: put them in the Instagram post the Doctor Phil House
Speaker 1: because it is exactly kind of what you think someone
Speaker 1: who likes hunting would have as a house. Really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: remember doctor Phil used to make his poor wife come
Speaker 1: out and watch everything. He I've always wanted to end
Speaker 1: all of my stand up shows with grabbing someone's hand
Speaker 1: and walking off. That's how you would you come to
Speaker 1: every show. I will come to every show just for
Speaker 1: that gag. I'm committed to a gag. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he used to grab his wife's hand and
Speaker 1: they used to walk off together. And every opisode doesn't
Speaker 1: know what time of day my radio shows on. I
Speaker 1: think he thinks I do breakfast radio. I was once
Speaker 1: in New Zealands for two days and he said, where
Speaker 1: are you? I said, I'm in Auckland, not even in
Speaker 1: the country, not even in the country. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: he goes. I'm listening. It's cool Brittany dancing and everything.
Speaker 1: So the knives you mentioned as well, we could beg
Speaker 1: It was the thing about Brittany is she was kind
Speaker 1: of not I mean, she was never really known for
Speaker 1: her vocals, and this is what she had over Christina,
Speaker 1: because obviously Christina is one of the great vocalists of
Speaker 1: all time, Brittany was really, for me, a great dancer,
Speaker 1: choreographing a lot of video clips like minutes before and
Speaker 1: then expecting the dancers to keep up with her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people are saying, Taate McCray
Speaker 1: is like giving Britain right. She's going back to that
Speaker 1: full on you know, stage Corey as opposed to Adele,
Speaker 1: who I love just belting out of Gune. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just sitting down, just belting out of June. Adele just
Speaker 1: side know yeah, you know how you know how singers
Speaker 1: like I've never been one of those people that like
Speaker 1: a singer speaks to me. Sure every single song Adele
Speaker 1: has written is about me, of course it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every song I love her so much. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: her is just like your Layton Latin and beck Hewitt
Speaker 1: thing you love Kim classes of Lady Gaga. I love Adele.
Speaker 1: And then when I went to the Adele concert, you
Speaker 1: know she's she's quite funny. Yes, So she was doing
Speaker 1: this bit and she goes, oh, this is my one
Speaker 1: song that's you know, you can get up and dance
Speaker 1: because otherwise everything else is a bit sad, sad, so
Speaker 1: go on, get up and have a and there I
Speaker 1: am in the mosh pit with Julie Morrison. Same he's saying,
Speaker 1: and Wali Darli. Long story. So there we are dancing
Speaker 1: and everyone gets up for a dance, and then she
Speaker 1: points at me. I've got paroxide hair at the time,
Speaker 1: and she goes, you look like a dance, like a
Speaker 1: professional dancer. I'm like, no, I'm just really gay. I'm
Speaker 1: not a professionals really gay. But I shrieked and screened.
Speaker 1: That's so good. Of course, did you get up? And
Speaker 1: did you get up with her? In Dents fourced your
Speaker 1: way up? I wish I had the VIP, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to go to the Vegas Residency, but I'm too nervous.
Speaker 1: You canceled. Oh yeah, yeah, well, and Brittany also did it.
Speaker 1: So you said Brittany did four years four years in Vegas. No,
Speaker 1: she didn't complete for four years. People knew that there
Speaker 1: was some kind of conservativeship about her at this time,
Speaker 1: but for most of us, we didn't really understand what
Speaker 1: that was. So I kind of explained it as a guardianship.
Speaker 1: That's what a conservative sort of brought the word conservativeship
Speaker 1: into the Otherwise, I don't think people were really close.
Speaker 1: I'm still not super across it. No, it's really weird
Speaker 1: because you can have different types as financial, which is
Speaker 1: obviously they'd have control of the finances. It's physical, which
Speaker 1: is health and well being. There's general conservative ships which
Speaker 1: are more common. These cover kind of everything. So yeah,
Speaker 1: just kind of look after a person and there's limited ones.
Speaker 1: Now she was put under a temporary conservative ship, right,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like a full conservative ship because mostly
Speaker 1: it's like someone who has Alzheimer's. But she had a
Speaker 1: public melt and she was only twenty six at the time,
Speaker 1: and so she was, you know, in current speak, Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 1: she was. She was huge, was the name. Yeah, more
Speaker 1: than anyone else exactly. And now you know, you see
Speaker 1: like all these old photos of Britney as well, and
Speaker 1: you kind of go, oh, she was with Lindsay Lohan
Speaker 1: and Paris Hilton. They were the three of them in
Speaker 1: the car. It's funny. And so this conservative ship usually
Speaker 1: there's an evaluation of the person, but Brittany never got
Speaker 1: that chance was about to ask, so her dad just
Speaker 1: went yep and fast tractor. She never well, she just
Speaker 1: said that there was no way that she could look
Speaker 1: after herself, and she wasn't of mental capacity to choose
Speaker 1: a lawyer, and I choose someone to assess her. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. But at this stage, I'm asking you a
Speaker 1: question you probably or possibly don't know the answer to.
Speaker 1: With a relationship was her relationship with her father? Good? No,
Speaker 1: no, no no, And she asked for when the only kind
Speaker 1: of thing that she kept saying during all of this
Speaker 1: was please don't let it be my dad. So she
Speaker 1: kept saying that, going, please don't let it be Jamie
Speaker 1: because he is just awful. How did well? There was
Speaker 1: so public speculation about her at the time, like you know,
Speaker 1: so this was when she shaved her head in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Then she was attached to hair transplant
Speaker 1: in Turkey, and also like you know, she's the umbrella
Speaker 1: incident happening that was so iconic. And then there was
Speaker 1: like an incident where Kevin Federline, who was her partner
Speaker 1: at the time, kept taking back the kids and said
Speaker 1: she wasn't fit to take to look after the Fadoline
Speaker 1: who's one of her backup downs, that's right, And then
Speaker 1: she dated paparazzi. Yes, we're going to get into as well.
Speaker 1: When we get into that. Let me tell you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drop a little bombshell on you. I have stood
Speaker 1: next to Britney Spears for a minute waiting for a taxi.
Speaker 1: When did this happen. It happened in twenty seventeen when
Speaker 1: she was dating the paparai, the paparazziparazzo paparazzo. I was
Speaker 1: in La Yeah, I was at the Beverly Hills Hotel
Speaker 1: waiting for a taxi. Yeah. I said to my friend,
Speaker 1: that's it's Prittey bitch, pretty bitch. And I think this
Speaker 1: was pre bitch. She's not a gay icon. She not,
Speaker 1: so I don't give it too much. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: lots of people like although my friend Ashley was game,
Speaker 1: might think she's going on this is the whole issue
Speaker 1: with gay icons. And then Ashley didn't really see her.
Speaker 1: Then we both got in taxis at the same time
Speaker 1: and went down the sort of driveway of the hotel
Speaker 1: and pulled up the lights, looked over and she was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's Brittany and she was with it.
Speaker 1: Was it ad Nan ad Nan? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: paparazzi leave, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was that's my that's amazing because she was and I
Speaker 1: think the thing about Brittany was she was really lonely.
Speaker 1: She was such a very what's the word, very accessible
Speaker 1: because she obviously needed help. She was vulnerable. Yes, and
Speaker 1: people followed her everywhere all the time, like paparazzi, pepparazzi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they followed her everywhere pepparazzi. Yes. And the problem is,
Speaker 1: and we've seen this happen in your life, fame is
Speaker 1: so cruel in that some people love to be around
Speaker 1: fame so much that they will indulge you and give
Speaker 1: you whatever you want and actually only poison you further. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just so they can have that tiny, tiny, you know,
Speaker 1: slice of fame, but it's only going to be temporary
Speaker 1: because you're making that person sicker exactly. And I think
Speaker 1: that was the thing about you know, when we look
Speaker 1: at someone like Amy wine House, so you look at
Speaker 1: like Wendy Williams, which would talk about at some point
Speaker 1: she so they were kind of like, oh, she's an alcoholic,
Speaker 1: she can't look after herself and everything, Wendy Williams. But
Speaker 1: then it was also like she then made a film,
Speaker 1: a documentary about herself, like with an executive producer and everything,
Speaker 1: and you're like, but what mental state can you be
Speaker 1: in where someone takes away all of your riots? And
Speaker 1: it's just a debate that I don't really understand. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I said before, I need a care. I
Speaker 1: don't understand a lot of things. I love a care.
Speaker 1: I think we need you and I need the same things.
Speaker 1: It's digs. It's going to be like a nanny. Nanny
Speaker 1: would be a great yeah, fran frand phone, Oh I
Speaker 1: get Poppins. Poppins. Poppin's over dresser. Yeah, you can have Dresser.
Speaker 1: I have Poppins perfect. Most of the time, when someone
Speaker 1: ends up in a conservative ship, it's because they can't
Speaker 1: look after themselves and need help. During the thirteen years,
Speaker 1: Brittany had a success thirteen years. Thirteen years, she had
Speaker 1: a successful Vegas run, four successful albums, two of which
Speaker 1: went platinum, and a full career that made over one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million dollars in that time. And do
Speaker 1: we know what she saw of that? Not much, Because
Speaker 1: the really interesting thing about you can't read about the foyer.
Speaker 1: So the really interesting thing about this is that her
Speaker 1: dad talk so Jamie took something like it's like two
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, and then he also had a
Speaker 1: spending allowance of eight thousand dollars per month and Brittany
Speaker 1: had like six thousand, so she had less than him.
Speaker 1: She also paid for all of the lawyers and legal
Speaker 1: force she did of her conservatorship when her dad chose
Speaker 1: the legal counsel who represented her. Around that time, I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember the comeback album. It might have been It's
Speaker 1: Britney Bitch, and that was a big deal. And she
Speaker 1: was doing like the VMAs and stuff like that. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like you know, music clips which you know, couldn't
Speaker 1: be edited and filmed a million times. She was doing live.
Speaker 1: She was doing live yeah, performances. Yeah, And the lip
Speaker 1: syncing became a huge thing. I remember at the time
Speaker 1: because I think at one point there was a video
Speaker 1: of the mic cutting out when she was doing a
Speaker 1: lot of all all the music stopped on it was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Oh that's right, And someone had the had
Speaker 1: the like the raw audio. Yeah, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: had that saved on my phone for a while. It
Speaker 1: might have been a ringtime. The great Genevieve Morris. When
Speaker 1: I was doing a live podcast a while ago. Jen goes,
Speaker 1: why don't you just play one of the old podcasts
Speaker 1: because they're always really funny, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: she goes, just lip syncer, which I think is so funny,
Speaker 1: like imagine a stand up lip sincing you've recorded your
Speaker 1: best night ever, like it's yet to happen. Hey, not
Speaker 1: for you. You always call their material all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well I did the other night which
Speaker 1: you came to, which was lovely the UK. But it's
Speaker 1: like the first time that I've recorded it because I'm like,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you have to get it right. In those
Speaker 1: you were really funny. I wouldn't be here now if
Speaker 1: I didn't think you're really funny so much, I would
Speaker 1: have like blanked you because you know I hate comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeahh But you don't go and see
Speaker 1: a lot of comedy, do you at the moment, because
Speaker 1: you've seen so much. I see a lot. I don't
Speaker 1: find men funny. Yeah. I have never purchased a ticket
Speaker 1: to female comic. All my favorites Joan Kathy Griffin, you
Speaker 1: know Joan Rivers who called you a rock stuff fucking rockstar.
Speaker 1: I believe I worked with her the night before she
Speaker 1: went into the go she changed my life. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: that's my school of comedy. Yeah, but I see a
Speaker 1: lot of stand up yeah yeah, just through the job.
Speaker 1: I'd rather go see a musical. Well that's the thing
Speaker 1: as well. Like I always think that about comedians that
Speaker 1: don't like to go and watch comedy, because it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, like if you're out at
Speaker 1: a comedy club, you're watching so much stand up yah,
Speaker 1: And so it's like, would you would you go out
Speaker 1: and watch your stand up if you were like if
Speaker 1: your touring all the time, you would never go out
Speaker 1: and just watch her. No. Holiday, I took like I
Speaker 1: took Jack to New York. Yeah, and I took him
Speaker 1: to the Cellar right, just because I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just for the wine. There's no comedy. It was very serious,
Speaker 1: actually familiar. It was so dull. But I took him
Speaker 1: there just because it's you know, like great historic and
Speaker 1: I've played there before. But I'm not pooh poohing comedy. No.
Speaker 1: I also think there's you run into that trap of
Speaker 1: sometimes you start to absorb a bit of material and
Speaker 1: you write a bit and you don't realize that you've
Speaker 1: actually not stolen it. But you're just seeing a bit
Speaker 1: too much. Well, that was all the Robin Williams stuff
Speaker 1: back in the day. I remember that Robin Williams was
Speaker 1: accused of stealing people's material because he was at the
Speaker 1: back of the room all of the time, the absorbing stuff.
Speaker 1: The rumor about the Robin Williams light. Yeah, can you
Speaker 1: tell this? Yeah, so well I just heard the rumor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you were on stage and Robin Williams walked into
Speaker 1: the room, a lot of the big clubs knew, and
Speaker 1: then like a specific light in the rig that a
Speaker 1: comic could see because we can normally see like a
Speaker 1: light for time and whatnot. Pay attention to those things. Car,
Speaker 1: ask Carl, I have a sticky feet. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: I have the stickiest defeat and I'm always like I
Speaker 1: can't remember any of my material, and then I do,
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes in a four minute spot. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: light would come on being like Robin's in. Isn't that wild?
Speaker 1: Do you know? I worked with Joan Rivers the night
Speaker 1: Robin Williams died and she was very upset offstin Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: on stage a professional and she was, oh, I'm so sad.
Speaker 1: I'm so sad. My dearest friend Robin Williams past today,
Speaker 1: and you know, of course, of course the first thing
Speaker 1: I did, The first thing I did was I I
Speaker 1: called his manager and I said, who's got his gigs? Brilliant?
Speaker 1: Who's gigs? I have to drink her voices? So were
Speaker 1: you working in that club where she went every single
Speaker 1: the Lori Beachman Theater. Yeah, it's in the documentary where
Speaker 1: she shows off her There's like a stool that she
Speaker 1: shows off. It's like the I was with her the
Speaker 1: dare I'm a legend and this is where the fuck?
Speaker 1: It's such a great theater. I was with her the
Speaker 1: day the Oscar nom so best doco came out, and
Speaker 1: not only should that have been incredible one And she
Speaker 1: would very rarely show emotion, not because she didn't have
Speaker 1: any She had heaps, but she was a professional. And
Speaker 1: I remember the nums came out and we were all
Speaker 1: kind of excited. She looked down for maybe two seconds,
Speaker 1: looked up and went, okay, right, where are we up
Speaker 1: to now? Because her days would be packed from all morning.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Lori Beachman Theater was iconic, and she
Speaker 1: taught me this trick. Every night she would sit backstage
Speaker 1: because she'd do like two hours. Yeah yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: she'd get black cardboard and a white marker and write
Speaker 1: her like little dot points like Nicole Kidman and and
Speaker 1: she'd write her dot points like that because you can't
Speaker 1: see the black cardboard. Oh that's clever. That's such a
Speaker 1: great break. Of course she did that. Yeah, there is.
Speaker 1: There's an argument for conservativeship, which is really interesting. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know a lot about mental health. Like at the time,
Speaker 1: she never a lot of money left, her brand had
Speaker 1: been damaged, while like not a lot of money, a
Speaker 1: lot of money. And I think that's a lot to
Speaker 1: do with Kevin as well, because was he managing her.
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, I think there was some sort of
Speaker 1: management going on as well. How weird, I'm managing you.
Speaker 1: And also I'll be in the chorus line behind you.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so strange. He's just had a
Speaker 1: book come out, oh yes, yeah, and so as a
Speaker 1: sister as well, a very public divorce, and she was
Speaker 1: really struggling with her mental health. After all this time,
Speaker 1: she was back on top and had generated a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Yeah, and she had kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: she was back on top and didn't have the awful
Speaker 1: people that she did kind of surrounding her before. But
Speaker 1: she kind of like she wasn't really close to her
Speaker 1: dad anymore. She wasn't really close, yeah, to her mum
Speaker 1: at that stage. So so at this time, the Instagram
Speaker 1: was kind of the way that fans reached out to
Speaker 1: her and she kind of connected with her fans. We're
Speaker 1: back talking twenty Yeah, this is two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: Oh no, sorry, this is like later. This is like
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen would kind of be the year
Speaker 1: this kind of happened. So the Instagram was the way
Speaker 1: that she kind of do a wellness check on Brittany,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people felt like they were her friend.
Speaker 1: In a week we talk about her Instagram on my
Speaker 1: radio show maybe three days a week, really, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's just it's so fascinating, like the fascinating the video
Speaker 1: she puts up. There's a lot of dancing and everything
Speaker 1: and the nine. But it's definitely her. It's definitely her,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people have said, like that there
Speaker 1: was a look alike or something or well, no, it's
Speaker 1: but it's definitely her, Like operating posting it, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is why she started posting clues and everything as well.
Speaker 1: There was something that was there was the Yellow Show,
Speaker 1: and there was something like like a purple love heart
Speaker 1: at some point. Yeah, there was a purple love heart.
Speaker 1: And there was also a kind of a me about
Speaker 1: shopping or something at the time, and she was like,
Speaker 1: I literally cannot go shopping by myself. There was something
Speaker 1: like that, I mean, all that would And also that
Speaker 1: was in the height of like when she was famous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in you know, like the late nineties into the noughties.
Speaker 1: That's when there were kind of no rules around what
Speaker 1: about privacy and what paparazzi could have access to. There's
Speaker 1: a lot more legislation around that now and probably a
Speaker 1: lot more to still to come unless as General's got
Speaker 1: something to do with it. And it was kind of
Speaker 1: a free for all. You could kind of do anything
Speaker 1: to these people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The meme was actually the one I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: is let me shop and no one gets hurt, which
Speaker 1: she started posting like these soccom memes like I was
Speaker 1: just a title soccomum and I loved it for her
Speaker 1: and the captain said, story of my life literally, so
Speaker 1: what did this mean? Was she being literal or was
Speaker 1: she being more cryptic. In two thousand and seven, Brittany
Speaker 1: had a very public meltdown, so you kind of know
Speaker 1: the image already whip about this when she had the
Speaker 1: shed started. She wanted to fight the paparazzi. She had
Speaker 1: like the the umbrella it's outside like a service station.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and she got really she had the shaved
Speaker 1: head and everything. Yeah. So yeah, so she kind of
Speaker 1: just started to attack the paparazzi for the first time.
Speaker 1: And you kind of have to remember how famous she was,
Speaker 1: like she didn't really have many close friends. She kind
Speaker 1: of had had enough at this point, and she would
Speaker 1: have been like the top, like the top three most
Speaker 1: famous people in the world are the huge. She was huge, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Christina you'd have thrown you take that your biggest family. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like riding like these huge balads like beautiful and
Speaker 1: there's Britney singing toxic like so yeah, just having the
Speaker 1: best time. When she was a school girl as well,
Speaker 1: what was that one one more time? One more time
Speaker 1: was baby? One more time was the first one, and
Speaker 1: then it was sometimes run sometimes hard, I think I
Speaker 1: don't cry and what was the other one the woman,
Speaker 1: I'm not a girl all that My favorite was every time.
Speaker 1: That's Brittany was a young mother of two under four,
Speaker 1: and she was in crisis mode. That January, she was
Speaker 1: placed in two urgent psychiatric centers. While she was still hospitalized,
Speaker 1: her parents and business manager fast tracked a temporary conservatorship
Speaker 1: while she's like, while she's like drugged out of her mind,
Speaker 1: and that's growth. They fast tracked it, which Brittany didn't
Speaker 1: find out about until it was all too late. She
Speaker 1: didn't go to she didn't get to have her say
Speaker 1: in fighting it. That October, the temporary conservativeship was made permanent.
Speaker 1: Now I'm getting with the emotional and it's just sad.
Speaker 1: It's sad, and a judge appointed her father, Jamie Spears,
Speaker 1: as co conservator along with her lawyer. That's why isn't
Speaker 1: that crazy? Like I mentioned before, her father was put
Speaker 1: in charge of her against her will and said that
Speaker 1: her business manager Sam was like he couldn't look after
Speaker 1: her and he was actually making her worse, like he
Speaker 1: was like letting her take drugs and everything. Britney's lawyer
Speaker 1: was working more for her father than her. Her father
Speaker 1: wanted over four hundred thousand dollars a year as a wage,
Speaker 1: and that went up over time. Chicky bugger, You're allowed
Speaker 1: to take a salary, but you're not meant to be
Speaker 1: using their money for your own personal gain. That's why
Speaker 1: conservatives Ship was like, I've heard it all now. In
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Britney's co conservative lawyer I spoke about Andrew
Speaker 1: Wallatt was going to ask the judge for a raise.
Speaker 1: He wanted four hundred and twenty six thousand dollars per year.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Brittany's not his only client. Oh god
Speaker 1: not so he was like, I think just a lawyer
Speaker 1: that worked on that case, but also on media. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, wallet's wallet would be wallet's huge. So what
Speaker 1: the hell was going on, Joel? Is the question your
Speaker 1: not meant to be acting for your own personal gain?
Speaker 1: So why were people making so much money out of
Speaker 1: Britney spears? If you hadn't been convinced before, you will
Speaker 1: now free Britney. It was up to the Internet to
Speaker 1: do their best for sleuths to kind of sept Britney free.
Speaker 1: Brittany bretnaneyte characters working on what sted online conspiracy became
Speaker 1: a widespread phenomenon. In twenty nineteen, Britney stopped her Vegas
Speaker 1: residency and put her next album on hold. News broke
Speaker 1: that she had voluntarily checked herself into a hospital. Brittany
Speaker 1: had been in the hospital for months against her will.
Speaker 1: It was later stated I was going to say, yeah, Jamie, voluntarily,
Speaker 1: there's no voluntarily in the arm. Brittany herself began to
Speaker 1: respond to the Free Britney movement, responding in a way
Speaker 1: that to say her family were under a lot of stress,
Speaker 1: but she'd be back. So they filmed this in the hospital,
Speaker 1: and it's like gross because it's like I think they
Speaker 1: made her do it. Of course, yeah, going I'm fine,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, kind of like a hostage video where you're going,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm fine. What is she going to do?
Speaker 1: She's at no lower like you can't get to a
Speaker 1: lower point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also gross and unfair. It's so gross, And
Speaker 1: at that point she was kind of like going, you know,
Speaker 1: don't read it. Don't don't believe everything you read or
Speaker 1: or hear, because I don't. I don't dispute that that
Speaker 1: there's she had a lot of issues going on, but
Speaker 1: this the way this is handled. Yeah, it's awful. They
Speaker 1: go and like spend two years in a small town
Speaker 1: in Italy with aways, you know, just with a ton
Speaker 1: of staff. Yeah yeah, just relax, lax, relax. I've been
Speaker 1: trying to also work on fair di income. I said
Speaker 1: it can now fifteen days on the trot on air,
Speaker 1: on on radio, just forcing it in, just somewhere the
Speaker 1: co haven't noticed. No, great, they're gonna put me up,
Speaker 1: saying you're like Karl Stefanovic who wore the same suit
Speaker 1: for over a year on TV and no one noticed,
Speaker 1: and everyone was like ripping his co host Tom for
Speaker 1: being like, you know, for wearing what the same dress
Speaker 1: twice or something. He had the same suit, So you're
Speaker 1: kind of like that. So fair income, you know, everything
Speaker 1: for me on my radio show when I'm not on
Speaker 1: Carl Stefanovic of course, my understand. Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 1: My understudy a beautiful understudy. So, like I said at
Speaker 1: the top of the episode, I wanted to jump in
Speaker 1: and let you know a few facts about what a
Speaker 1: conservative ship actually is.
Speaker 2: Saw.
Speaker 1: A conservative ship, in basic terms, is when someone has
Speaker 1: a legal right to make decisions on behalf of someone else.
Speaker 1: Sometimes this is also referred to as a guardian ship.
Speaker 1: These decisions can be personal, economic, and legal decision making
Speaker 1: power is ceded to others. I kind of talked about
Speaker 1: the kinds of conservator ships that are out there, But
Speaker 1: I also want to talk about the background of Britney Spears,
Speaker 1: because I'd feel like it would do a disservice to
Speaker 1: her story and what happened to her if I didn't
Speaker 1: kind of give an overview of Britney Spears. So, Britney
Speaker 1: Spears was the world's pop princess and household name around
Speaker 1: the world. She began in the industry at the age
Speaker 1: of just eight years old after her mum realized she
Speaker 1: could sing beautiful moment. My mum never realized that. For me,
Speaker 1: she did realize I could tap tap dance nothing else this,
Speaker 1: you know, still still waiting for her to let me
Speaker 1: know if I have any other talent. They both moved
Speaker 1: to New York to try and hit the big time,
Speaker 1: some of course talking about Britney and a mum, not
Speaker 1: myself and my mother. Brittany was a finalist on a
Speaker 1: TV show called Search, an eighties and ninety version of
Speaker 1: American Idol. At age eleven, she became the youngest member
Speaker 1: of the Mickey Mouse Club with co stars Christina Aguilera
Speaker 1: and Justin Timberlake. I've written Jason Timberlake, which I feel
Speaker 1: is fun. I don't know why. I'm just not a
Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake fan. At the age of just fifteen, she
Speaker 1: had a record deal with Jive Records. Just one year
Speaker 1: after her first single, Baby One More Time, hit the
Speaker 1: world stage and was number one in over twenty countries.
Speaker 1: She became a global sensation. It sold over ten million copies,
Speaker 1: and Rolling Stone named it the greatest debut single of
Speaker 1: all time. I know about you, but I always get
Speaker 1: confused about Rolling Stone and the Rolling Stones. I always
Speaker 1: want to say Rolling Stones Magazine. I think that's wrong.
Speaker 1: Georgia will come at me, and I know that. Brittany
Speaker 1: was the best selling teen artist and best selling female
Speaker 1: artist of the two thousands decade. She earned the name
Speaker 1: the Princess of Pop. In a five year span nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight to two thousand and three, she made around
Speaker 1: seventy three million dollars same She was also the youngest
Speaker 1: music artist in history to earn a star on the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame. Brittany became one of the ten
Speaker 1: most photographed people in history, along with Princess Diana, Marilyn Munroe,
Speaker 1: and Michael Jackson. So that a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: paparazzi constantly following our good friend Brittany at the time,
Speaker 1: and it was just awful, Like I imagine I wasn't there,
Speaker 1: but I mean, it would have just been awful for her,
Speaker 1: just going places, not feeling close to any one really
Speaker 1: at the time, not having many friends, especially in the industry,
Speaker 1: and kind of feeling like people were letting her down
Speaker 1: time and time again. There were constant conflicts at home
Speaker 1: between her parents, Lynn and Jamie Spears. Jamie was an alcoholic,
Speaker 1: there were reports of infidelity, and he was both verbally
Speaker 1: and physically abusive, Allegedly in two thousand and four, he
Speaker 1: entered rehab upon Britney's urging and she paid for it.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy six, only two weeks after divorcing his
Speaker 1: first wife, Jamie married Lynn Bridges. Lynn filed for divorce
Speaker 1: just a few years after their few years of marriage
Speaker 1: and a temporary restraining order, fearing his temper would be
Speaker 1: a problem if he was under the influence, but they
Speaker 1: ended up reconciling, reconciling, reconciling, and got together again, having
Speaker 1: Britney just shortly after. Brittany was born in nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: one in Mississippi, alongside her older brother Brian and little
Speaker 1: sister Jamie Lynn. Britney's mum was definitely a driving force
Speaker 1: behind her career. She felt guilty about their family's financial situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I said it like that, Ahuvi
Speaker 1: s Bear's family filed for bankruptcy in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: They had their car repossessed. That same year, Baby One
Speaker 1: More Time was released. Her father, Jamie, had little to
Speaker 1: no contact with her during her childhood. She suggested that
Speaker 1: she was always afraid of him and cited her parents
Speaker 1: divorcing in two thousand and two as the best thing
Speaker 1: that happened to their family. Britney urged her to divorce
Speaker 1: her father, so Lynn sorry. She she urged Lynn to
Speaker 1: divorce her father. There have been reports the only thing
Speaker 1: the Record Labels ever heard from Jamie was Britney is
Speaker 1: going to be rich, and she's going to buy me
Speaker 1: a boat. In early two thousand and four, Brittany married
Speaker 1: her childhood friend Jason Alexander in Las Vegas. Now, I
Speaker 1: will say at this point that Jason Alexander was a
Speaker 1: very different person to the actor Jason Alexander who played
Speaker 1: George Costanza in Seinfeld. Fifty Five hours later, the marriage
Speaker 1: was annulled as Britney said lacked the understanding of her actions.
Speaker 1: Then Brittany married Kevin Federline, who was her backup dancer.
Speaker 1: He left his then eight month pregnant fiance. Brittany proposed
Speaker 1: to Kevin on a plane at the same time his
Speaker 1: fiance gave birth to his second child. I hope that
Speaker 1: Brittany proposed to Kevin when they weren't doing drink service,
Speaker 1: because I imagine that would be a bad proposal, and
Speaker 1: also someone is wanting their diet coke. So Brittany and
Speaker 1: Kevin had two children together, Sean Preston in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five and Jaden James in two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: Brittany filed for divorce after that around two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: Her reasoning was that she had been left alone for
Speaker 1: three weeks to look after the kids. As Kafed and
Speaker 1: I hate it that he's called Kayfed got on a
Speaker 1: private jet to party with his friends Kevin had the
Speaker 1: reputation of a party boy, and Brittany was now single.
Speaker 1: She was constantly hounded by the paparazzi. She could not
Speaker 1: walk to her car alone without being snapped. She couldn't
Speaker 1: even fill up her car with petrol. She was trying
Speaker 1: to pump gas, pulled in the wrong way and tried
Speaker 1: to reach the pump around the car. Paparazzi by the
Speaker 1: name of Adnan Ghalib offered to help her, and she
Speaker 1: accepted the offer. Brittany started asking about ad Nan when
Speaker 1: she saw paparazzi. After that, eventually they started dating. He
Speaker 1: too started to be hounded by paparazzi. I was but
Speaker 1: say paparazzi by paparazzi, are hounded by paparazzi tastes of
Speaker 1: his own goddamn medicine. By two thousand and seven, Britney's
Speaker 1: ongoing divorce was really taking a toll. The kids were
Speaker 1: being used as pawns. A chess term, I'm sure I
Speaker 1: need to tell you that a chess term. He seemed upset.
Speaker 1: And this is what happens when George's way. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to laugh about a chess term. He seemed upset about
Speaker 1: how much the paparazzi would be following her with the
Speaker 1: kids in the car. Then in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: Brittany was also strange from her parents after she thought
Speaker 1: they would try and swoop in and take everything. There's
Speaker 1: an overview of Brittany, but you can see kind of
Speaker 1: the trawl. For Britney, she was one of the most
Speaker 1: famous people in the world, as Joel has put it,
Speaker 1: not a gay icon, but one of the most famous
Speaker 1: people in the world. And this was happening to her.
Speaker 1: She could not walk to the car, she couldn't do
Speaker 1: things like just hang out with people, and I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like this made her feel more and more isolated,
Speaker 1: and she could only trust the close circle around her,
Speaker 1: and people would come in that kind of always had
Speaker 1: a different interest in Brittany, which seemed to sadly be monetary.
Speaker 1: After this time, Sam Lufty endoed her life. He claimed
Speaker 1: to be Britney's former manager, but Britney described him only
Speaker 1: as a sometimes friend as a cookie monster. Later said
Speaker 1: it's a sometimes food, the goddamn cookies, Sorry, Georgia. They
Speaker 1: met at a bah, chatted and became friends. She later
Speaker 1: called him and asked him for help with something. It's
Speaker 1: very unclear at this point what kind of help she
Speaker 1: needed from Sea Lufty, So it's kind of wild to
Speaker 1: me that, yeah, she just kind of made a friend
Speaker 1: at a bar and needed help, kind of thought he
Speaker 1: was genuine from what it seems, and then he became
Speaker 1: a big part of her life. Brittany didn't seem to
Speaker 1: have many close friends at the time. She was pictured
Speaker 1: early on with Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton, but her
Speaker 1: friendships didn't seem to stand the test of time. Sam
Speaker 1: Lufty encouraged her to spend more time with her family,
Speaker 1: but Britney never seemed to want them around. Paparazzi photographs
Speaker 1: could sell for a lot of money. The right photo
Speaker 1: of Brittany at the time could sell for upwards of
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars. A twenty four to seven news
Speaker 1: cycle surrounded Britney all the time. A lot of news
Speaker 1: would be about her physical appearance and speculating that she
Speaker 1: was an unfit mother and kind of just picked apart
Speaker 1: her relationships. Paparazzi she would continually follow her everywhere, chasing
Speaker 1: her through red lights as she tried to escape. When
Speaker 1: she would step out of a car. Paparazzi would literally
Speaker 1: be in the gutter and they would take upskirting photos
Speaker 1: of her. When news outlets would then mock her quote
Speaker 1: unquote sluttiness, they would imply that their own photos were
Speaker 1: a reflection of her character and that suddenly she was
Speaker 1: a bad role model for being too sexual. In two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, a politician stated, really, if I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to shoot Britney Spears, I think I would.
Speaker 1: She said this at a domestic violence rally and was
Speaker 1: met with applause. She later apologized for that statement, but
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you can redact that. I feel
Speaker 1: like you are a pos piece of shit forever. On
Speaker 1: January first, two thousand and eight, when police were called
Speaker 1: to Britney's home, she was kind of refusing at that
Speaker 1: point to give the kids back to Kevin. At the
Speaker 1: designated court appointed time, she had locked herself inside. She
Speaker 1: was taken away in an ambulance for emotional distress and
Speaker 1: rumors of substance abuse. The paparazzi chased the ambulance, hanging
Speaker 1: on to the back to get a glimpse of her.
Speaker 1: A judge then made the decision to remove all custodial rights,
Speaker 1: even before receiving any evaluation results. First responders and witnesses
Speaker 1: said that she was not endagering her children, but because
Speaker 1: of all the negative press surrounding her, it seemed as
Speaker 1: though she did not have a choice in looking after
Speaker 1: her kids. She was taken back to hospital on the
Speaker 1: thirty first of January. On February first, Jamie Spears fast
Speaker 1: tracked the Conservative Ship. Californian law specifies that conservatives be
Speaker 1: personally presented with papers within five days notice before the
Speaker 1: Conservative Ship takes effect, but this can be waived if
Speaker 1: the judge rules the person could suffer immediate or substantial harm.
Speaker 1: The family would name sam Lufty as a destabilizing force
Speaker 1: in Britney's life and the reason why the five day
Speaker 1: notification should be waived. They were claiming that sam Lufty
Speaker 1: was in fact crushing up drugs in Britney's drinks. He
Speaker 1: denied this and call and of course there was no
Speaker 1: evidence to support this, but somehow it was granted. Sam
Speaker 1: Lufty asked how he could do this in front of
Speaker 1: the world, and Britney never called for help. I don't
Speaker 1: know it. It kind of seems like they were just
Speaker 1: trying to fast track the Conservative ship in any way
Speaker 1: that they could. The court document providing Jamie Spears with
Speaker 1: full control was already signed and dated for January thirty first,
Speaker 1: so before he even applied for the Conservative ship, he
Speaker 1: had all of the paperwork ready to go and her
Speaker 1: address listed as the hospital. While Lynn and Jamie weren't
Speaker 1: together as a couple, they acted together in deciding that
Speaker 1: this was the best for Brittany. At the time, there
Speaker 1: were in fact two Conservative ships, one for the estate
Speaker 1: managed which managed her financial affairs, run by her father
Speaker 1: and Andrew Wallatt, and the other was a personal Conservative
Speaker 1: ship that controlled every aspect of her personal life, which
Speaker 1: was exclusively managed by her father. He could kind of
Speaker 1: control what she could and could not do. Jamie promised
Speaker 1: that he would help gain custody of her kids. He
Speaker 1: would be her temporary conservator, but only a few weeks
Speaker 1: after he filed for the Conservativeship to be made permanent,
Speaker 1: so only gave her a couple of weeks before he
Speaker 1: filed for a permanent conservativeship. A permanent Conservative ship is
Speaker 1: meant to be the last resort. Is a legal measure
Speaker 1: primarily reserved for elderly people. Who have lost cognitive function
Speaker 1: and can't manage their finances or their daily activities activities, activitis, activities.
Speaker 1: The typical age is between their late seventies think about
Speaker 1: seventy six years old to early eighties. A power of
Speaker 1: attorney would seem to make more sense in this case,
Speaker 1: someone who hands their finances over to someone else until
Speaker 1: they are ready to take full control. But Jamie requested
Speaker 1: a full conservative ship for the rest of Britney's life.
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, Jamie Spears had a restraining order place
Speaker 1: against him from Britney's from Brittany because of her boys.
Speaker 1: He had physically attacked, breaking down a door to get
Speaker 1: to her children. Kevin Federline requested a restraining order because
Speaker 1: he was afraid of Jamie's temper. Regardless of this, no
Speaker 1: one took the abuse allegations seriously, despite the fact Brittany
Speaker 1: wasn't even there when Jamie attacked the kids. Britney had
Speaker 1: her custody reduced to only ten percent while Kevin had
Speaker 1: ninety percent. That equals to one hundred percent. That's boy math.
Speaker 1: Britney texted Ardnaan, who hatched a plan to get in
Speaker 1: touch with a lawyer while she was at a burger
Speaker 1: restaurant with one of her dad's appointed bodyguards. She slipped
Speaker 1: away and quickly jumped into her car. She met up
Speaker 1: with Adnan and they met attorney Adam streisand were chased
Speaker 1: by paparazzi on the way. There seventy vehicles, so imagine
Speaker 1: that seventy vehicles and helicopters followed Britney spears just to
Speaker 1: catch a glimpse of her. Adam streisand agreed to represent Britney,
Speaker 1: but the judge said that he had a report that
Speaker 1: stated that Britney didn't have the capacity to retain her
Speaker 1: own counsel. He dismissed it. Adam Streisan was asked to
Speaker 1: leave the courtroom. Britney was again denied. There was a
Speaker 1: box checked on the original forms that stated that Brittany
Speaker 1: had a form of dementia and was not competent to
Speaker 1: obtain her own counsel. Every single document after thirteen years
Speaker 1: reported her presence in the court as not mandatory or able,
Speaker 1: but unwilling to attend. According to my research, there was
Speaker 1: no medical evaluation that she ever had dementia. The doctor
Speaker 1: who was said to have checked the box for de
Speaker 1: mentia claimed later to have never met Britney Spears. In
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, another lawyer Brittany was hoping to
Speaker 1: obtain submitted the following information to the court quote, mister
Speaker 1: Spears has now moved into her house and taken control
Speaker 1: of her financial assets as well as her physical custody
Speaker 1: or without the benefit of a hearing where Britney Spears
Speaker 1: could be present. I've said it before and I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. How god damn insane is this. Brittany was
Speaker 1: again denied the use of communication with the outside world,
Speaker 1: and she was basically confined. Ard Nann openly talked about
Speaker 1: he would have to return Brittany anytime they were out
Speaker 1: together or Jamie would claim that Britney had been kidnapped.
Speaker 1: Jamie at the time had also filed a restraining order
Speaker 1: against Sam Lufty after the lawyer was dismissed. So this
Speaker 1: was a lawyer that she tried to hire before a
Speaker 1: court appointed lawyer was Sam Ingham. He was Jamie and
Speaker 1: Britney's attorney, but she was covering his annual salary of
Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty thousand dollars. In twenty nineteen, Britney's
Speaker 1: living expenses were four hundred and thirty eight thousand, her
Speaker 1: lawyer was earning more than her. Oh my god, her magistrate,
Speaker 1: I implore you. Britney tried again and again, secretly meeting
Speaker 1: journalists or using bernafhones to try and obtain her own
Speaker 1: legal counsel, but these were all turned down. In two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, Ardnam was still trying to get Britney
Speaker 1: to hire a lawyer. A journalist from Rolling Stone again
Speaker 1: just Rolling Stone was also trying to help her. Brittany
Speaker 1: met secretly in a hotel bathroom to sign documents to
Speaker 1: get herself another lawyer, but sam Ingham said she was
Speaker 1: fine and it probably wasn't her signature anyway, so threw
Speaker 1: it out. This is exhausting. She asked one attorney to
Speaker 1: pretend he was a plumber so that he could access
Speaker 1: the house and she could have a secret meeting with
Speaker 1: her father knowing. I kind of love to see that
Speaker 1: in a film. That moment incredible. Her family stated that
Speaker 1: in thirteen years Britney never petitioned the decision, but court
Speaker 1: documents proved otherwise that in fact, she was constantly pleading
Speaker 1: to set herself free. It's is wild that it was
Speaker 1: taken off her in the first place. Now, a conservati
Speaker 1: is usually not able to work. At this time, Brittany
Speaker 1: was going on a major world to She was embarking
Speaker 1: on the biggest worldwide tour of her career, eighteen songs
Speaker 1: with brand new choreography, ninety seven shows across three continents.
Speaker 1: This tour started less than a year after she was
Speaker 1: deemed not fit to choose her own legal counsel, and
Speaker 1: during the tour generated over one hundred and thirty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Between nineteen ninety nine and twenty eighteen, Britney headline ten tours,
Speaker 1: earning over five hundred and seventy million dollars, in addition
Speaker 1: to a record breaking Las Vegas residency with two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty eight shows earning over one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: But she did not see the bulk of that money.
Speaker 1: Jamie paid himself sixteen thousand dollars per month as an allowance,
Speaker 1: paying her eight thousand dollars per month. In addition, he
Speaker 1: would also take a salary of two million dollars, as
Speaker 1: well as being a Britney's manager agent, paying tax touring
Speaker 1: costs all of that. So sorry, What I meant by
Speaker 1: that is that you know you'd also account for He
Speaker 1: always said he wasn't Britney's manager, but Britney's manager would
Speaker 1: earn some on that, the agent, marketing, merchant, all of
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff that was a lot of money
Speaker 1: was being taken from all different angles. Jamie controlled what
Speaker 1: Brittney ate and drank, and made her go on very
Speaker 1: strict diets. Jamie became more and more religious as time
Speaker 1: went on, donating ten percent of his salary to a church.
Speaker 1: Jamie tried to cure her with religion and would not
Speaker 1: let her read anything that wasn't strictly Christian material. Brittany
Speaker 1: was forced to have a uid and her conservative refused
Speaker 1: to have it removed. There is so much, and the
Speaker 1: list goes on and on. I did such a deep dive.
Speaker 1: There is so much information in here. It made my
Speaker 1: head spin. In twenty nineteen, Brittany dropped out of a
Speaker 1: Vegas tour before it started, citing health concerns. There were
Speaker 1: lots of people now wondering where Britney was. There was
Speaker 1: a missing poster for Britney spread around. The movement for
Speaker 1: Free Britney grew bigger and bigger. People began publicly stating
Speaker 1: that Britney needed to be freed. Media outlets began to
Speaker 1: really look into conservatorship, including a documentary Framing Britney. It
Speaker 1: was I think it was called Framing Britney Spears, so
Speaker 1: I haven't written that there, but you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. It was time to free Britney. On June thirtieth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, one week after Brittany made a
Speaker 1: public plea to the court, she was denied to have
Speaker 1: her father removed as a conservator. The public pressure was
Speaker 1: only intensifying. They weren't going to let it go this
Speaker 1: time around. The pressure was so great at the time
Speaker 1: that Senatorizabeth Warren and the ACLA got involved. The ACLA
Speaker 1: is the American Clinical and Laboratory Association. On July sixth,
Speaker 1: Britney's attorney, Sam Ingham resigned. Funny that Brittany was then
Speaker 1: able to finally, finally, thirteen years later, hire her own attorney,
Speaker 1: a man by the name of Matthew Rosengart, who immediately
Speaker 1: filed for the removal of Jamie Spears. Fucking Jamie Spears.
Speaker 1: Jamie requested from her estate more than one million dollars
Speaker 1: in legal fees and related media fees, Matthew flatly refused.
Speaker 1: On September seventh, Jamie requested to be removed as a
Speaker 1: conservator and that it should be altogether terminated. He could
Speaker 1: see the writing on the wall and it wasn't looking
Speaker 1: good for Jamie Spears. I was finally dissolved without Brittany
Speaker 1: having to undergo any evaluation. In fact, she maybe didn't
Speaker 1: need to be under a conservativeship the entire time. Her
Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time proposed straight away. Brittany later said
Speaker 1: that her mother was the one who came up with
Speaker 1: the idea in the first place, and she's just as
Speaker 1: bad as her dad, but presented herself as a saint.
Speaker 1: She called like a Bible, a bible carrying saint. I
Speaker 1: think is what it was, Brittany said. Linn wrote a
Speaker 1: book about Brittany embarking on a media to her. Britney's
Speaker 1: sister also released a book, and Britney sent a cease
Speaker 1: and assist letter. The family were the driving force in
Speaker 1: taking away Britney's rights. Now, I said that was a
Speaker 1: brief overview. That's a bit of an overview. And now
Speaker 1: we're going to go back to my conversation with Joel
Speaker 1: to date in twenty twenty one, the world heard for
Speaker 1: the first time that a conservativeship was coercive and abusive.
Speaker 1: That's when we made she made this speech. Yes, the
Speaker 1: conservativeship wasn't just about Britney, it was more on people's
Speaker 1: rights in general. If this could happen to a huge celebrity,
Speaker 1: this could happen to anyone. If Brittany couldn't speak up
Speaker 1: and be heard, then who could. TikTokers in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three decided to live stream them calling the police and
Speaker 1: sent out a well loved It's so much fun. They
Speaker 1: love tiktoks. You know she like this for you go,
Speaker 1: this could happen to anyone. Yeah, all you hear stories
Speaker 1: about you know that you know someone was kept in
Speaker 1: her basement for twenty years. I always goh god, could
Speaker 1: that be happening within one hundred mean as me? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Yeah, any time, just stuff you don't know about.
Speaker 1: And this was a wild thing that Britney kind of went,
Speaker 1: this is really disrespectful for you to be doing welfare
Speaker 1: checks on me now, after everything I've been through. She said,
Speaker 1: I love and ad all my fans, but this time
Speaker 1: things went a little too far and my privacy was
Speaker 1: invaded during this time in my life. I truly hope
Speaker 1: the public and my fans, who I truly care so
Speaker 1: much about, can respect my privacy moving forward. The fans
Speaker 1: can to be a real double edged sword. Yeah absolutely,
Speaker 1: and also like doing too much like she's in Christlis
Speaker 1: mode again they wanted her to be. I think they,
Speaker 1: I think the fandom, I think they're called orientators Ariana
Speaker 1: Grande's I think getting a bit of that really. Oh,
Speaker 1: just the fans are going a little bit too far
Speaker 1: with what they're doing. Well, you saw that that person Singapore. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a serial pest in Sydney. That was in Singapore
Speaker 1: and he's from Sydney, Australia. Okay. Yeah, but also if
Speaker 1: you remember what Ariana went through in Manchester, not like
Speaker 1: not the right person I've met her, ChIL was and delights.
Speaker 1: I know, people have a lot to say about Aarona
Speaker 1: Grande and Cincury For you're a fan, they're really nice, great.
Speaker 1: I love that there are fans that have, of course
Speaker 1: still watching the Free Britney movement. They still believe that
Speaker 1: she's in trouble and still needs help. Other conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: now include fans speaking up, saying that maybe her Instagram
Speaker 1: is AI generated, but she's been replaced with a body double,
Speaker 1: that somehow she's been captured and he's still under a conservatorship.
Speaker 1: She did thank her fans directly for helping her. She
Speaker 1: needs to continue to heal and find her place again
Speaker 1: in the world. But he recently deleted her Instagram for
Speaker 1: a short period of time, only a short period of time.
Speaker 1: I didn't cover that. But October twenty second, she was
Speaker 1: seen at a Mexican restaurant unsteady on her feet and
Speaker 1: then caught on video driving dangerously. This isn't the video
Speaker 1: or the post she put up recently where she was
Speaker 1: on a date, went to the bathroom, posted like slagged
Speaker 1: off the guy she was on a date with. Like
Speaker 1: imagine if he was sitting there at dinner and saw
Speaker 1: that pop part she's been gone for a while, because
Speaker 1: she's taking photos of herself and also writing you know
Speaker 1: one of her you know ted talk your captions, and
Speaker 1: then he sees that pop up being like, Oh'm a
Speaker 1: real shit day, I'm a real shit date. Oh God,
Speaker 1: I'm having the worst time tonight. It's like like that's
Speaker 1: accidentally sending the wrong text brutal. The manager of the
Speaker 1: restaurant said that Britney was not intoxicated. In fact, she
Speaker 1: didn't order any alcohol with her casida. I love that
Speaker 1: he promoted. Why she never margarita? She have a magrada
Speaker 1: just alone. I wouldn't know how to eat a casida
Speaker 1: without a margarita. No, it's not possible. It's not possible.
Speaker 1: Salt and no salt. I like salt. Oh you don't
Speaker 1: like salt, not even a spicy salt. I don't like
Speaker 1: a spicy margarita. I'm a Tommy's Margarita girl. You know what,
Speaker 1: that's fun. I work with a lot of people from Sydney.
Speaker 1: The restaurant staff tried to stop her from driving, but
Speaker 1: she drove away anyway, driving over a double line and
Speaker 1: making a really fast U turn. Alcohol limit is a
Speaker 1: lot higher in America, Yes it is, so you can
Speaker 1: actually drive under the influence, like to a certain point.
Speaker 1: Can't you more much more, much more than Australia. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Britney claimed that she was not out and in fact
Speaker 1: it was a Britney lookalike. So this is what she said.
Speaker 1: Since not her, the best and kindest thing we can
Speaker 1: do for Britney. Now, in the words of the person
Speaker 1: once known as Chris Crocker, leave her alone. I agree.
Speaker 1: What do you think after after hearing that? Do you
Speaker 1: like you know there is a lot in there. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of facts in there. There's a lot in it. Look,
Speaker 1: I first of all, I just Lord knows what is
Speaker 1: happening in the Spears world, and I mean the private
Speaker 1: Spears world. Yeah, it's evident that you know she's something's
Speaker 1: not right. And I don't mean that in a sassy,
Speaker 1: rude way. She has experienced the heights of fandom that
Speaker 1: like few people. Yes, she was, you know Taylor Swift, Beatles,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, like huge, Yeah, Obama, you know like that,
Speaker 1: like that genuine level every single planets Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: don't even Yeah, everything I can sell a ticket, that
Speaker 1: level of fame, that where every single person on planet
Speaker 1: Earth knows who you are, where you are these days,
Speaker 1: you know, they can try private jets and movements and
Speaker 1: and you know, Taylor spoof maybe partly to blame things
Speaker 1: are easter eggs. Oh my god, I don't have the time.
Speaker 1: I love Lady Gaga so much. I have If you
Speaker 1: if there's an easter egg in any of her albums.
Speaker 1: I've missed every single one. Yeah, because he's just listening
Speaker 1: as a true monster. Is it off? Little monster? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just called me a monster like I'm Jeffrey Darma.
Speaker 1: Jesus please, I'm not a monster. I'm Frankenstein's monster. The
Speaker 1: correct terminology. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, you're a little monster.
Speaker 1: I always I always call people out when they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you look like Frank he made the monster I did
Speaker 1: in Year twelve English. Alak. I just want the best
Speaker 1: of Brittany. I don't know what the answer is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because also you would know as a performer, she has
Speaker 1: that inch that she wants to scratch. She wants to
Speaker 1: get back out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm assuming she's gone. She's going to want to
Speaker 1: keep performing. But I think she needs to get a
Speaker 1: nice little villa in Italy, get some great stuff who
Speaker 1: don't know who she is, which that's going to be tricky,
Speaker 1: but you know, the Italians, I don't. I don't get
Speaker 1: engaged there. And I told the waiter and he went
Speaker 1: cool in Italian loser. I'd love to see a comeback. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it'd be huge if she if she made a comeback now,
Speaker 1: if we did it now, I'd be well, if she
Speaker 1: did it right now, I'd be nervous. I want to
Speaker 1: know that she's doing a comeback, she's gonna be she's doing,
Speaker 1: you know, a two hundred date world tour. She's going
Speaker 1: to be on fire every single one of those dates.
Speaker 1: She's going to be well taken care of. And she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe I'm saying this about
Speaker 1: Britney Spears. Just she's happy. She's happy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And there's been so many clues and everything from internet
Speaker 1: sleuths over the time, and it's so good that like
Speaker 1: the Dancing with Nine video and stuff like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's been so many things where it was like she
Speaker 1: might have been calling for help that whole time, but
Speaker 1: you also don't know because she's kind of gone out
Speaker 1: and said, yes, I've been, I've been I've been depressed,
Speaker 1: I've been super sad whatever she was saying at that time.
Speaker 1: But she's also probably got no one to run this by,
Speaker 1: no so no one to go. Because sometimes I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put out like like a little sort of
Speaker 1: sassy message that's going to combat something else, and then
Speaker 1: I'll run it by a manager or something, and they'll
Speaker 1: point out all the flaws and that they go, don't
Speaker 1: don't do that. That's what I'm at it. I don't
Speaker 1: think she has she's doing. She's a she's a sole
Speaker 1: trader at the moment, soul trader, not a road trader. Jesus,
Speaker 1: save a vowel for someone else. But ah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna, it's gonna happen. Free Brittany's gonna come back.
Speaker 1: And yeah, because we would like to be hit baby
Speaker 1: one more time, more time, and I I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you this story today because we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: little bit of a break from the grizzly crimes. The murder.
Speaker 1: It is a grizzly crime in its own right, but
Speaker 1: it is so so sad. And you know what, I
Speaker 1: think we need a break. Now. You need to go
Speaker 1: to your job right now. You want to work? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to work. You working an office, just
Speaker 1: a regular office, my s white passes? Do you really?
Speaker 1: I have swipe passes and you've got your beautiful it's
Speaker 1: a lab boob. I mentioned that's a real bag, but
Speaker 1: that's real boocie got back. I treat it like ship.
Speaker 1: But I believe if you own designer, we're into the ground.
Speaker 1: I mentioned once on air that I la boo boos once, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then my co host bought me a La Boo
Speaker 1: boo for my birthday, so we'll digs try to attack it.
Speaker 1: When you did walk in, he thought it was a
Speaker 1: fun little thing forlabooboos. But what I love to do
Speaker 1: is when I'm flying up you know, the pointy end
Speaker 1: of the plane, people already give me like a look
Speaker 1: up and down, like what's he doing here? Because I
Speaker 1: don't dress, you know, I'm not in a suit normally
Speaker 1: in like like like gym gear or trackies, and they're like,
Speaker 1: what's he doing in here already? So then I love
Speaker 1: to walk past them like whack him in the face
Speaker 1: of my other boo boo. Great, just to really rubbing in.
Speaker 1: Thank you, job, thank you, it's Brittany bitch. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to this week's episode
Speaker 1: without g I just thought it'd be a nice way
Speaker 1: this week too. We've had some very heavy episodes about murder,
Speaker 1: and I thought, let's do a true crime episode that
Speaker 1: is all about the Free Britney movement, and that's why
Speaker 1: I wanted to make it a regular episode because it
Speaker 1: is wild that this existed and so many people witnessed
Speaker 1: it and saw it all unfolding. Thank you, as always
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