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Speaker 1: Rilla and podcasting now Will and Woodies, Mindful Mondays, Mindful Man.

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Speaker 2: Streaming on your iHeartRadio app, but you can always get

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Speaker 2: the podcast there as well if you want to Instagram

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Speaker 2: and then what do you want to catch up.

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Speaker 3: On this book? Woods?

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Speaker 2: Essentially, everybody's sort of at the point where life is

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Speaker 2: unraveling very very quickly, and I think we're all kind

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Speaker 2: of realizing, particularly today. I think everyone's been in solid

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Speaker 2: isolation for probably about a week now. Things aren't going

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Speaker 2: to get back to normal anytime soon. So we bring

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Speaker 2: in a whole bunch of guests to help you guys

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Speaker 2: sort of navigate your way through that. And we've got

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Speaker 2: a very special guest in Hugh Van Kylenberg, who is

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Speaker 2: on your nature strip while we're on your porch.

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Speaker 4: We've got to keep social distancing, so I'm sorry to

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Speaker 4: others than offend you, Hub, but I'm not letting you

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Speaker 4: inside the house. I've got to stay outsie defense.

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Speaker 3: That's okay with you. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure to have you on here. I'd great

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Speaker 3: to be I was thanking you on the way over here.

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Speaker 3: During there's anyone in Australia who have somehow missed the

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Speaker 3: news and doesn't good question is goingyone's been weird at

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Speaker 3: the most good, isn't it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Sure cafes are open, Yeah there might be.

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Speaker 2: There might be some people that were on retreats now

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Speaker 2: back on you here, because you're in charge of something

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Speaker 2: called the Resilience Project, mate, that's what you that that

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Speaker 2: that's where your work is and that's based in and around,

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Speaker 2: you know, building mental strength essentially through various different avenues,

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Speaker 2: not through what people would be expecting. And I know

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Speaker 2: you've done some work, brilliant work at the elite sports level,

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Speaker 2: but that's kind of why I brought you in because

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Speaker 2: you're in a bit of a contrasting situation now and

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Speaker 2: you know, without going too much into it, your your

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Speaker 2: circumstances have changed drastically, you know, particularly someone who's out

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Speaker 2: and about and talking to all sorts of people all

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Speaker 2: over Australia and helping them build elite cultures at sporting

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Speaker 2: levels and whatever. All of a sudden you're at home

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Speaker 2: with a newborn that's not sleeping in, a three year

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Speaker 2: old that you know you're really struggling with. So as

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Speaker 2: any of your philosophy of being able to be applied

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Speaker 2: to your own life.

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Speaker 3: Well, my wife actually caught me not practicing like the

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Speaker 3: things I preach every day. On Thursday night, I had

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Speaker 3: I was being really upbeat and we're going, well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it'll be fine, and you know, we got each other

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Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. And I said to you,

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Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm struggling a bit. And I was pretty

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Speaker 3: honest about that, getting a bit for like, we've had

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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty gigs canceled over the next worry

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Speaker 3: about that ten staff to pay all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, I'm battling a bit. She said,

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Speaker 3: I was not like you to be in that position.

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Speaker 3: I said yeah, And she said, oh, have you been

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Speaker 3: practicing the things that you tell everyone to do every

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Speaker 3: single life? I last empty miffe yeah, yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: kind of laughed yeah, and then I went, no, I'm

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Speaker 3: not actually through my fingers. Yeah, And I literally just

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Speaker 3: like sat there. I went into so I'm sleeping in

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Speaker 3: and so I sat there and a lane be and

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Speaker 3: I was like, right, I'm going to do three things

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Speaker 3: feeling totally different at better because I'd spent ten minutes

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, I want to talk to you more about that.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go to a song here. Human Kyleinberg

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Speaker 2: from the Resilience Project is on Woody's Nature Street. You

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Speaker 2: can still hear the cars going behind him every now

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Speaker 2: and then. We're sorry about that, but I want to

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about practically implementing that stuff

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Speaker 2: while we're all in isolation, because I think that's the

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Speaker 2: hard part posting. Now, well, I'm from Woodies Front Foranda again. Here,

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Speaker 2: beautiful day. We're doing a mindfulness Monday woulds because you know,

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Speaker 2: everyone's mental health is honestly really something hard to hold

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Speaker 1: Will and Woodies Mindful Mondays mindful man.

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Speaker 2: So we've got different guests coming in to help you

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Speaker 2: guys with your mental health. We've got Hugh van Kylenberg

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Speaker 2: from the Resilience Project.

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Speaker 1: He's on with his.

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Speaker 3: Branda right now. We're just talking.

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Speaker 2: So part of your programing, this is something that you've

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Speaker 2: preached all throughout Australia at the elite sports level all

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Speaker 2: the way down through schools is your recipe is gratitude,

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Speaker 2: fact that given that you've got an eight week year

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Speaker 2: is also not sleeping, your wife basically caught you out

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Speaker 2: not practicing what you were preaching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I reckon one of the big

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Speaker 3: reasons are struggling. Everyone is on this think called the

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Speaker 3: mental health spectrum. We're all somewhere between what's plus five

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Speaker 3: research saying there are things you can do gratitude, empathy,

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Speaker 4: So practically, how do we implement those three strategies when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gratitude, So you literally write down it's to do

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Speaker 2: For the possible Sorry, what his neighbors have just got

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Speaker 2: So I think I think I think everybody can probably

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Speaker 2: Every time we go past this, like this nursery that

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so the challenge on that. I love what

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Speaker 3: friend of mine and you guys will know, well find Shelton. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: She's really struggling with it. There's that website cameo where

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's actually I think I think.

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Speaker 3: I think I pay you if I go to that website.

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Speaker 3: So he's what Ryan did. He went on there. His

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he messaged her and said, oh, so here's

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Speaker 3: He did, like a three minute message. He said, I'm

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Speaker 3: getting ask kicked too. How hard is this really? Open? Anyway? Right?

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Speaker 3: Showed it to me. What do you reckon? I was like, wait,

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Speaker 3: this is but what a lovely thing to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it could be something creative like that. We got

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Speaker 3: But it was a picture from our son. They had

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Speaker 2: So whether it's robbing a florist or drawing a picture

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Speaker 3: Can you can you? Can you do your own? One

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Speaker 2: We got one more song?

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Speaker 3: Was I was lasting me? I'm happy to stand it

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Speaker 1: Podcasting now willin Woodies mindful, mondays, mindful man.

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Speaker 2: All our guests are coming up. Just on the other

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Speaker 2: helping you guys through your isolation and getting your mental

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Speaker 2: modes right, Hugh. If you want to go and learn

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Speaker 2: more about Hugh and what he's doing, gratitude, empathy and mindfulness,

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Speaker 2: that's the recipe. And mate, I've got a friend of

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Speaker 2: So where can they get that? What's the story about?

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Speaker 3: So? I was going to say bookstores, but they're probably closed. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Amazon online, books online. Yeah, and just go to the

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Speaker 2: Awesome, And that'll sort of help people figure out a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wrote the book last year and it was

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Speaker 3: just some strategies to feel happier and also your mental

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Speaker 2: Brilliant mate and the other stuff that you know, you're

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Speaker 2: just providing limitless entertainment for everyone in isolation. Your podcast

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Speaker 2: outstanding podcast. People are absolutely frothing this thing. You had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a phenomenal I had had a cry to

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Speaker 4: It's called The Imperfect and basically you talk to a

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Speaker 4: pretty high profile people in the Australian world media, sport,

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Speaker 3: Know, the important message for right now what we're going through, Like,

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Speaker 2: Or what's more intimidating Missy Higgins or Woody and leopard print.

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Speaker 4: miss or missus Johnson tea. Yeah, he doesn't drink milk. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love milk, mate, Hugh, thanks for coming by.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure. Thanks having me, mate.

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Speaker 2: Can I just get the book title off you game?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna get it afterwards as well.

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Speaker 3: The Resilienus Project Finding Happiness through Gratitude, Empathy and My.

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Speaker 2: God it's pretty basic. It's exactly what the message is.

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Speaker 2: Resilience Project dot com dot are you if you going

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Speaker 2: to go and check any of that out, Hugh, Thanks

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Speaker 2: for coming on the other side of Woody's fence this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Mate. It sounded amazing. Sounded amazing. It's a tough at home, ye.

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Speaker 2: See what you're hearing.

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