WEBVTT - Bad Dates, Contract Clarification & Emergency Surgery 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.600 Welcome back to the Mason Cock Show. Now we've got 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:10.480 an exciting one. I know we've kind of moved a 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.319 bit of the scheduling around. Now we're back to the 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.640 interview slash catch up sections every single week, and this 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:17.919 week is the catch up. Now we've got plenty to cover. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.800 Last week, obviously, my brother was on. I was really nervous. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.160 He had some great stories talked about AFL getting into 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.120 the league. We thought it was not even a real thing, 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:26.680 and all this kind of stuff, and it was awesome' 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.320 talking about guns, religion, politics, We covered everything with a 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.440 brother about in America and everything else. It was an 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.680 awesome and awesome episodes. If you haven't heard it yet, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:35.479 go back listen to that one. That was a good one. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.600 But as always, we're going to start with the seven platforms. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.080 We've got Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Apple and Spotify. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.559 Foll us on all those like comment everything else and 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.559 without further Actually, you know, I might actually release this 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.159 before we introduce obviously the great man that does this 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.520 with me. But next week we've got a guy that's 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.360 hilarious when we share some hilarious stories, Dave Thornton. That 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.080 man is seriously one of the funniest men I've ever 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:00.680 met my life. So I have a look for that 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.360 subscribe so you can get the link, sorry, get the subscription. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.399 I thing that pops up the notification to say that 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.000 it's come out. So it's gonna be a good one. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:08.600 It's gonna be a good one, I promise. But without 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.119 further ado, I will introduce the man that is here 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:12.440 with me, Brandon Cox. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.520 Welcome, Welcome to me. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.880 Welcome back to you, man, welcome back to you. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.960 It's been a lot, yeah, years since before the Grand Final. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:29.240 And then yeah, the Nolan episode was genuinely probably my favorite. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.039 Yeah, I did like. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.959 The Razor Ray episode, but Nolan was. It was so 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.680 refreshing to hear your story from a different perspective and 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.400 you just really get a sense of like you two 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.760 just really made it up as like no one had 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.160 any idea. You're essentially taking the piss out of Australia 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.840 just coming over here being like like you pulled the 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.440 wall over our eyes and just like going club the club, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.640 and yeah, it was great and yeah, especially Nolan putting 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:03.280 on his like agent's hat full Jerry McGuire, Yeah, it was. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.240 It's a really good episode. So if you have, if 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.880 you decided to skip that for whatever because I wasn't 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.600 on it, you go back and listen to that one 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.320 because it was. Yeah, it's a banger. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.080 It's actually one favorites. Obviously I'm bit biased being family, 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.920 but I think there's some absolute golden nuggets in that, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:20.160 like people haven't heard before. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:20.840 It's quite funny. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.920 Yeah, what was it? My favorite part that's towards the 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:28.280 end is you know, sneaking out in your loud or. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:32.200 The sixty one Falcon Ranch hair. I'll just oh falcon Red. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:33.480 That thing was unreal. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.040 Rolling it down the hill. Yeah, there's some good ones 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.440 in there. You smashing the antique photo. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.600 Yeah, there's like one hundred Yeah, one hundred year old 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.520 photo out of the glass broke, and let's just say 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.200 we were putting the timeout corner for a decent chunk 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:46.720 after that. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.520 There's some classics in there. So if you haven't checked 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.440 it out, go back and checked that one out, because yeah, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.160 it's genuinely one of my favorites. I reckon, I love that. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:53.400 Well. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.560 I'll start this off man, because before we recorded this, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.960 you came out of the house and nug boots man 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.960 I'm just kind of wondering what's the deal with that, Like, 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.120 are we allowed to now leave the house and ugboots? 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:01.880 Is that appropriate? 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.040 Like, I know, summer is almost towards the end now, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.840 like sorry, winters almost the end now we're almost into summer, Like, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:08.280 is ugboots still appropriate? 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:08.600 Right? 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.600 It's actually yeah, because I'm wearing a jumper, shorts and ugboots, 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.000 So it's a real confusing setup. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.080 It's a real Melbourne So if you're wearing sunglasses and 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.240 a beanie, then I think you'd be full Melbourne kid. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:18.640 Yeah. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.840 And yeah, I haven't done my washing in like a 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.040 week and a half, so the shirt's like old and stinky. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.360 It's I'm in terrible areas and it's not I'm not 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.600 even hungover. I'm just I'm thirty. I don't really give 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.320 a shit, Like, yeah, I thought it halfway to the 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.280 cafe to go get coffee and a toasty Were you 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.080 in public? Yeah? 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.200 Wow, okay local too? Yeah. 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:47.720 And I think about it sometimes, like is it is 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.560 it appropriate? Can you leave the house in ugboots? I 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.640 feel like I don't know, I've seen it. There's a 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.200 high population of teenage kids around this area, so and 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:01.560 they're always wearing you know, baggy trackies, baggy jumpers, hoodies, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.520 like super baggy clothes and ug boots and stuff. And 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.200 I'm like, maybe it's in in America. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.600 Man, if you walk out of nug boots like you 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.240 were crucified, it's not appropriate outside the house. 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.320 I remember I wore a beanie on an episode and 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.760 some lady from America had a crack at me. It 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.560 was like, what are you wearing like a whatever, a 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.320 winter hat inside, Like don't you have a heater or something. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.760 I was like, she probably doesn't realize that the season's 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.200 are opposite. She's probably sitting there in summer, gone it 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:31.760 is forty degrees outside. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.359 Why is he wearing a beanie at the moment. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.960 I'm just like, here, it's like fashion, not like saying 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.440 that I'm fashionable, but well, like it was an active choice. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.560 I wasn't wearing it because there was a blizzard outside. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.960 It was like, it can't be stuffed doing my hair. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.160 I wear a beanie, But I don't know. People are 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.560 hard to please, But yeah, can you wear ugboots outside? 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:52.719 No? 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.880 You can't, that's the answer. That's my answer. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:55.800 What I have ug boots? 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.760 I have can you imagine those things coming to my size. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.360 You'd kill like ten sheep just really all fit. You 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.000 know the amount of wool inside of them. True, you 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.640 know I actually shave tin sheep. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.119 You don't actually kill them back to like I believe 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:13.000 about like cows Hods states, yeah, oh, it just gets ruthless. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.520 But we'll get into the first man. We're going to 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:14.839 do sport. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.760 Obviously, everyone loves the sport on this side of it, 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.440 and I want to go in through some stuff because 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.560 the AFL season is somewhat dying. We'll finish it with 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.320 AFL at the end of this, but I want to 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.520 go through some so awkward kind of things that happen 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.320 in sport and things that really is one thing happening recently. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.640 I really got my head. Now. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.080 I'm not the greatest golfer in the world. Okay, I'm 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.920 happy to admit that, but I've been giving some freebies 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.080 over the years, so I have some like new gear, 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.599 and I'm one of those people that walks out on 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.840 the like the trail on the course, and I got 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:41.279 all the gear. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.560 No idea is what everyone says. Now, I've got some 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:44.440 other mates i'll play with. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.000 Are really good, but they have kind of like trash 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.159 not trash gear, but like not the new bag, not 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:49.440 the new clubs and all that kind of stuff. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:49.640 You know. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.880 So there's a guy that was playing the other day 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.360 and he's I'm sitting there and I'm in the rough. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.160 Obviously I don't play too much on the fairways. I 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.279 can't get it there, but I'm in this thick ruff, 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.960 you know, and I'm like going to have a swing. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.600 And this guy just like come up to the next 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:01.760 hole and he kind of looks at me. He goes 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.839 you Mason Cocks and I was like yeah, He's like, ah, 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.800 he just guys stood there and I was like, can 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.680 I help you? Like do you want a photos on? 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.039 What are we doing here? And it's like you off 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:14.679 at him a photo? 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:16.080 I don't know. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.840 I was like he was like, Oh, we're awkwardly having 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.920 this like kind of standoff, you know, wild West style, 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.240 And I was like, I don't really want to sit 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.279 here and have the swings. You feel people's presence, you 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.599 really do. Someone's looking after you. You got the gallery and 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.800 like everyone's looking. It's like there is pressure one on 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.960 one and it's even worse whenever you're just absolutely dog 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.240 shit at what you do, and that is golf and 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.000 sometimes forty at times. But this guy just sat there 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.880 behind me, and like I just felt him. He's just 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.120 looking at me. He's going to judge every single part 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:45.000 of my swing. I swung hit the golf ball, maybe 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.360 bring one meter in front. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.400 And I was just like, what did he be? Curious? 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:51.240 What did he want? 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.360 So at that point, I know he's seen it, and 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.479 I've turned around, I've kind of give him a look like, mate, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.719 can you just can you just maybe turn your back? 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.560 You know you're not helping for at least the pressure, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.000 Go and tee off on the next hole. Do your thing, mate, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.280 No need to watch this. Yeah, it's embarrassing already. I 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.159 don't need to have someone witnesses with me. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.320 Is he like a hole behind or whatever? 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.560 He'd be that he's coming back. So I was going down, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:12.280 he was coming back. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.000 So there's like a tea box next to me, because 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:15.560 I said I'll play on the fairway, I'll hit it 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.240 right next to the te box of the other holes. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.360 Yeah, and it was in thick ruff. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.680 I'm trying to really help myself in this situation, but 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.760 thick raff, and it took me about four shots to 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.560 get out of it. So do you know that guy is 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.800 please stop watching just let me have a terrible day golf. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.240 I probably had a crack at him because I was like, 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.720 so pissed off some just shit at golf. Yeah, but 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.480 that's my thing. Don't don't watch people and they play golf. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:37.720 Do your own things. Stare with your group. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.960 That happens all the time too. When you're already just 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.040 in a shit mood and then at least that guy 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.880 gave you an excuse. It's like you were probably not 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.920 doing well up until that point, and then it's like 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.400 you can blame the whole day on that blog. Yeah, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.040 but it's always those in my head. It's a mental game. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.920 The guys that are always like you, Mason Cocks. They're 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.200 the ones that it's just like because people in the 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.000 chatter as well, like as I've said on TikToker, like 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.760 does the goat reply and stuff. It's like hit us 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:05.760 with the question. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.280 Something rather than just a statement, Yeah, oh. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.160 Coxy, do you like playing golf? What are you playing 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.280 off or something? 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.080 Don't ask that question because I can't answer that. I 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.360 give up about third hole, Like you know what, I'm 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:19.840 just gonna hit some different clubs have a bit of 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:20.360 fun today. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.400 Well, there has been a few of those in our 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:28.120 DMS where it's like people tell you, like this slice 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.480 of information that you really don't need to know, and 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.600 it'll be like, as an example of like, oh, Mason, 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.959 I always hated you forever, especially because you did that 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.240 against my team in that round in that year. You're 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:44.160 actually not that bad at Blake. Delete that first part. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.440 You don't need the first part. Hey, Mason, I always 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.160 thought you were a dick, but you're not as big 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.559 a dick as I thought. Thanks, mate. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.240 I hate cheers. I appreciate it for judging me without 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.400 knowing that. Ah so good. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.720 You get so many of them. It's just like, hey, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.280 I hated you forever because you're just the Richmond Tigers. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.120 Oh no, the whole Richard supporter group just hates me 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:04.679 for no reason. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.160 But then I watched the Howie games and yeah, it's 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:08.600 bad bloke that. 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.360 To me yesterday. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.280 Actually thanks, But yeah, I feel like people just don't 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:13.400 need to say the first part. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.360 Nah no, just leave it out. Just be a nice guy. 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.240 Don't be like, Eah, that's your dick now, not as 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:19.840 bad as I thought. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.959 She could just come in with Like I listened to 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.840 the Howie Games. I really love the episode that was. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:32.480 Well, from one little controversy to another, chess the chess 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.120 world has been absolutely turned upside. I don't think I've 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.880 ever known anything about the chess world, but this week 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.640 has been absolutely insanity. Some of the stuff that's coming 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.440 out of the Professional Chess League, I don't know its 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.520 p PFC, I don't know. We're just gonna make that up. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.840 But there's been some very big controversies. A nineteen year 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.400 old kid is whooping some ass on some older folk 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:52.560 and it is not okay. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.040 They're not happy with it. Yeah. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.000 So essentially this guy that's like the best in the world, yeah, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.760 and he's starting to get whooped by like nineteen year 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:01.240 old kid. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:02.439 Yeah. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.160 And it's a bit of like this guy's like, you 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.360 know what, I'm not playing this kid anymore because he's cheating. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.280 He's clearly cheating. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.080 He just he comes into it and then makes like 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:11.839 one move and then just leaves the checks. It's a 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.960 online yeah, so he's like walks in and it's like 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.080 literally two like it's this big kind of like you know, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.000 face off. The two biggest names it's got to beat 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:19.960 him previously, is going to do it again, And like 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.040 he walks in does one movie, says peace, I'm out, yeah, and. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:23.840 Just leaves the chat. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.320 Everyone's like, yo, he went in and knew straightaway that 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.640 he was what I guess, cheating. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.160 There's claims he is now the chess world is now. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:31.640 I don't know. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.880 The chess authorities that go out and do these kind 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.400 of things have now looked into it. So there's no 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.640 way of telling. Because there's been some wild accusations Brandon, 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:43.559 some wild accusations of some beads and some back end 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.240 of people's you know, anatomy and then the bomb and 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.120 all that kind of start buzzing to say there's like 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.720 a big move on the board, better look out for it, 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.920 you know, and like the little hints like that that 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.120 people have been saying. I don't know, man, is some 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.400 wild stuff out there that there's being accusations, accusations towards 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:58.720 this fella. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:03.560 Yeah, because it's you wonder how you can cheat in chess, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.200 and it would be too easy and obvious to think, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.000 you know, like a little ear like implant. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:09.920 Yeah that's. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.440 But yeah, the back end beads, as. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.560 We'll call them vibrating anal beads. Let's just go out there, 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.440 let's just let's not out there. That's what it is. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.280 That's what it's been told. I don't know, there's you 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.640 know the PFC. I think PFC, we're making that up. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.320 Yeah professional uh yeah, where that came from? 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.960 Chess like PCL, Yeah, the PCL, PCL. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.880 I actually can't like that. The PCL. Now they've come 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.160 back and said there's I mean, like, how do you 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.400 how do you prove that post it all happening. I'm 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.439 not really sure, but imagine just like. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:47.000 The anal beads thing is just if true alleged, it's extravagant, 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:52.560 it's a genius move because anal beads, and no one's 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.800 going to want to go like, no one's going there. Well, 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.920 every time you play a chess tournament, it's like come on, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:57.920 bend over and cough. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.000 Like it's online, it's not you're doing it in person. 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.319 So I don't know how it works. But to sit 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.240 there and say like it's not the cheating thing is 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.920 also kind of interesting because like it's not necessarily full cheating. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.520 I feel like because it's like literally just giving someone 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.719 a hint like it is cheating per se, but it's 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.200 not like making the move for him. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.679 Yeah, but when you get to that level, surely it's 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.560 like a buzz and then you take an extra five 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.000 seconds to go like, oh, actually, yeah, I see that 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.600 or whatever. Surely it would be the buzz would be 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.000 like a couple moves ahead too. Yeah. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.240 Maybe it's like when you're three buzzes for like three 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:31.040 moves ahead. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.160 Cause they take a second to make a choice and 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.080 they got their clock and do all the timer and stuff. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.600 So yeah, that's I don't know, I feel like that's 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.800 genius level cheating. It kind of reminds me of the 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.199 Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? With the coughs in 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.160 the crowd? What is this? 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:48.520 What? 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.880 You don't know this one? So it's like one of 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.160 the first times someone ever won a million dollars on 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.439 Who Wants to be a Millionaire, and it was like, congratulations, 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.040 all the confetti comes down, you want a million dollars? Anyway, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.280 a while later they found out that it was essentially 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.200 someone was sitting outside and had a microphone to an 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:14.240 earpiece in someone's ear in the crowd, and the guy 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.800 would go like so it's like you know, see, yeah, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.720 what letter does dog start with it? And he'd read 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.400 out the question and go like A A B, B 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:29.720 C C or D D And when he said the 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.840 right answer, the person in the crowd would cough. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.200 Surely they would catch on to that. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.680 Yeah, So like in hindsight it was obvious ass but 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:39.719 at the time. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:40.240 Yeah, you can't. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:41.599 You know, you can't just like you can't just like 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.400 cut into it and be like no, no, you cheating, like 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:44.440 you have to go through the full thing. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.960 But you wouldn't have it had never happened, so it 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.480 was unfathomable. So the first time, is this an Australia Malienaime, 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:56.080 I don't think so, I think the UK. But yeah, 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.640 so they went back listened to it found like their 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:03.280 whole plot foiled. It got the million dollars back. Oh God, 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.640 like those cheating things. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.000 You've gotta be smarter than that, you know. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.559 It's got to be like a you know, a long 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.839 cough is like sea and then like the short cough 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:11.160 is out. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.400 You can't be like, all right, four coughs is d. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.120 But it was like that's why it was smart in 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.800 the way that it was like he would read the 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.960 mountain when he got to like be He'd be like, yeah, okay, okay, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:24.720 it's be Hey. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.920 That was in Australia. Eddie picked that right up. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:27.600 He'd pick it up. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.480 Edie picked that right up. All right, man, we're go 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.680 into the awkward moments next. Tell me about this blood nose. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:32.920 You have blood nose during your run? 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.920 Yeah, and blood noses a grass. So I apologize for this. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.880 Did you just kind of like roll out and just 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.640 like white T shirt everything? Like? 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.840 No, no, no, so I the sun started to come out, 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.000 so I started going for. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.520 No T shirt, no T shirt. The rig was outfrighted. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.240 Yes, there's no chance. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:50.680 Okay. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:55.480 So past three days, yeah, jug three days in a row. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.160 Huge, just getting back in shape, ladies, getting back into 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:58.840 summer barts. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.200 Coming around day. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.480 Three, I've been getting I don't know if it's hay 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.560 fever or if it's like a lingering cold, but I'm 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.400 a bit like yeah, yeah, so I don't do you 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:10.680 know what a bushman's blow is? 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:11.800 No? 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.480 What is this bushman's blow? This could get really sexual. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.479 This is just discussing. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.760 It's when you do the ah, yes, okay, one finger 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.600 on one nostril and blow or he's not out the 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:23.920 other not. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.200 Yeah, okay, the bushman's blaf. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.600 So you do that when you're out in the field. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.360 I doubt you're like tissue tissue. 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.760 Yeah, well blow my eyes for you out. But yes, okay, understandable. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.320 So I was, I was running and I was fully 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.160 my nose was fully blocked, and I'm like, I'm going 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.680 to have to do something about this. I did one nostril, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.800 went across the other side, did the other nostril, and 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.360 just blood blow too hard. Yeah, I don't know what 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.320 I did. And then so blood started coming down. I 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.760 was like, it'll stop, Like kept running if someone had 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:59.080 a seen me. I'm like sprinting, looking like I'm dying 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:04.080 already because of round like one hundred meters and blood's 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.040 pouring down my face and I'm like tilting my head back. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.520 And I was lucky enough I had a red running 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:10.920 shirt on. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.160 Yeah, I was like so matched it it wasn't as 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:15.480 obvious as it probably would have been. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.920 I was wiping it on my shirt so because I 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.760 was conscious that people would be seeing me running down 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.240 the street with a blood nose, So I was wiping 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:24.720 it off and it just wouldn't stop. So I had 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.160 to stop. My jug and then walk up to a 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.560 petrol station and get like they had paper tail. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:31.880 Oh, the ones that like the gas pump. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.320 Yeah, get the paper tail out and shove it up 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.080 there and woah continued on with the jug. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.520 What we're doing in AFL. I think sometimes I'll put 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:40.320 a tamp on it there. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.280 Who at the club? Who do you ask for a tampa? 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:45.920 There's just one in the medical bag just in case 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.560 someone gets one and they clip off the and then 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:48.760 like put it out there and show it up and 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.720 it soaks up all the blood it is. Then if 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.160 you if you ever get a blood nose or something 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.120 like that in the game, you find the part of 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.320 your jersey. It's like we're black and white, right, yeah, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.600 I'll find if we were in black shorts, I'll find 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.400 it exactly. Yeah, I'll find the black bit of it 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.480 and like rub my nose wherever it is. It's bleeding 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.800 on the black bit, so it doesn't show up until 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.399 I get off. There's probably a lot of teams that 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.480 do that because everyone team has like a dark color usually, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.000 so you can always kind of find that dark color. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.280 You can kind of like use to be able to 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.359 kind of hide and conceal the blood that you're actually bleeding. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:20.920 It's funny that like teams use blood rules to their advantage. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.679 Like sometimes I'll be trying to hide them, but the 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.600 other times they'll be like, we need a stoppage, we 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.000 need a rank and play. I got a blood nose, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.280 Like play stuff the game. I'm bleeding. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.840 Now. Can you imagine play get the runner out of here? 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.800 Oh gosh, imagine some players like just sit there as 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:39.280 a stoppage. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.959 You need moment of it, but it just goes bank right, 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.600 the face goes He's now bleeding in the nose. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.480 We need to stop. On to the next one. Now, 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.760 I was here whenever this happened. Now up in False 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.360 Creak to give a little bit of an intro into 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.520 the story, that False Creak is where we used to 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.720 go for our preseason camps. You know, we go up 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.480 to altitude. We all go and get absolutely like just 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.200 killed at this conditioning camp. It's kind of weak worth 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.400 and it's first or four years and everyone's just exhausted 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:05.639 by the. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:05.959 End of it. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.760 Now, during this camp, you were doing content for the 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.200 Common Football Club. Yeah, you were up at Falls Creek 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.680 and you're slaving at You're slaving a lot. Yeah, you're 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.399 doing a million different things, right, you got the camera. 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:17.960 You're kind of running with us, you know, and like 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.080 we're all running and doing you know, we're jumping into 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.879 ice cold lakes and you know, doing these push up 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.119 challenges and all this kind of stuff, and you're filming 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.720 all this. Now, at one point, we did this bike race, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.920 right and you're on this bike. Now, can you tell 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.000 me the rest of the story, because you essentially you 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:35.440 end up having a very personal issue, physical issue down 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.640 in the undercarriage that you don't want to talk about, 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.560 probably that ended up. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.600 In hospital for how long a week? A week? Tell 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:44.160 us this story? 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.320 Yeah, Falls Creek. It was like six am in the 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.960 morning or whatever, boxing to the sunrise, and I was 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.439 getting all my shots. Anyway, everyone took off and I 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:53.880 had to pack up all the gear. So I packed 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.200 up all the gear, rounded it all up, and I'm 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.720 like on this bike trying to get all the gear 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:03.000 back down to the clubhouse. I'm not pedaling at all. 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.439 Go down this hill and I just kept gaining momentum 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.560 and by then so there's a big sweeping bend coming 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:14.640 up and I somehow got this confidence on bike. Yeah, 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.360 these mountain bikes I used to ride a bit back 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.000 in the day. The day before this happened, I went 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:24.400 off this massive jump, like blind confidence. No you shouldn't, 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.240 I'm not you know this like X Games champion, I 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.000 like land and I jumped so high that when I landed, 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.639 the back tire exploded, burst just popped, and I like 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.359 flipped into this bush. But my experience there were like 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.240 the bush that I landed in was like this real 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.520 fluffy bush and I just stood straight up. Not a scratch, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.240 not a cart, not a bruise, and I was like, 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.800 see it. That was great my managers. Anyway, the next day, 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.440 I still have this confidence because I didn't get hurt 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.680 enough the day before. Evidently you had in the hard way. 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.520 I hadn't heard, yeah, exactly what you just said. Anyway, 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.480 I'm cruising down towards cruising, I'm humming umming down towards 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.600 this like bend, and I'm like trying to grab the brakes, 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.600 but I don't really have, you know, the hands to 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:18.040 do it because I'm holding all the yea and anyway, 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.120 I'm like, I'm just gonna have to take this bend 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.720 at like a million mile an hour. Anyway, I start 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:26.200 to turn, and I can't turn. Like the momentum of 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.000 the bike, I would have been doing like eighty ks 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:28.480 and hill. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:33.920 Eighty k Cameron and everything in your lap just Hammon 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:34.679 down the mountain. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:39.600 I was harming. I was going ridiculously quick, probably like sixty, 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.639 but it felt like a sixty ks hour. Yeah, I 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:43.960 reckon if I was next to a car. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.320 Was it gravel or was this like a. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:51.080 Full full paved bitch anyway, couldn't. I just kept going 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.200 straight and alls. I could see there's like this table drain, 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.960 which isn't great already, but then there's just this one 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:01.080 like massive, like older. It's sitting in the table drain, 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.439 and I'm just humming straight for it. Couldn't do a 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.560 damn thing. So I'm going sixty, let's say sixty, and 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.159 I just the front tier hits this boulder and I 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:13.840 just go from sixty to zero and the stem of 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.760 the handlebars hits me right in like the hips, like 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.840 the pelvis, so like drills me in the pelvis, and 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:23.960 I just, for like a while, I just stood there, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.399 hunched over, hands on knees, just taking it all in, 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.600 absorbing what happened. I'm still conscious. I'm still alive going 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:37.560 through the checklist. Okay, I can stand. There's a fair 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.200 bit of pain in my like hit yeah, but nothing 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:44.800 felt broken. I was like, Okay, this is so embarrassing. 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:45.240 And people saw you do this. 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.560 No one saw me so completely won out by myself 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:51.520 out there in the wilderness with all these kids creak. 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.280 So I like get on the bike. Survived. I don't 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.880 know how it's avived, but I like, I'm like, this 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.960 is so embarrassing. I need to get out of here 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.600 and reassess somewhere else. So I like start rolling down 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.000 the hill with the gear and stuff, and like the 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.080 at the bottom of the hill, I just kind of 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.600 roll off to the side and like go behind these 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.159 bushes and I'm just standing there for a while, just 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.640 like soaking it all in recover. 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.159 So you still like kind of like breathing, like like 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:20.480 your wind's been knocked out. 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.760 Yet Oh yeah, every like the soul left my body. 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.160 The soul left your body at sixty k's an hour 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:26.840 into the rock. 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:31.000 So then I breathe it out, get back on the bike, 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:35.879 ride slowly back to the clubhouse. Yeah, everyone's like eating 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.840 breakfast and the like, come on, we're going to the 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:42.000 next station. I'm like, no, fucking who needs food to 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:43.760 recover or anything. 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:45.840 No one's known, No one even knows that you're in 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:46.679 an accient yet. 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.480 So I'm trying to hide it, play it off like 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.800 nothing happened. So I'm like, yeah, beauty, let's let's go. 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.679 Fellas off to the next place. Work for like another 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.560 ten hours or something. Come home at night time. I've 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:03.639 been wearing these like compression skins because I felt like 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:11.560 an athlete or something up in the up in the hills. Yeah. Anyway, 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:15.400 get in the shower and I see there's an issue. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.320 I've got like this cut. It's like right on the 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.800 point of like mate, just to the side of my 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:27.879 pelvis yea, and the like there's a big When I 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.119 take off like the compression gear, there's like this big 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:35.520 like pocket of like blood, and I like push on it. 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.600 And in your like in your like Abomaria. Yeah. 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.600 Yeah, so it's like the compression pants have like kept 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.719 it into this without getting too graphic. I push on 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:49.840 it and some blood, more blood comes out of this hole. 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.200 I'm like, Okay, this is bad. This is It just 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:54.960 kept coming and I was like, I'm gonna have to 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:58.680 see someone, so when I saw the club doctor showed him. 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.840 He was like, oh, this isn't great, but filled me 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.560 with optimism. He's like, well, we'll go get it checked out. 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.600 We'll come back. We'll be back like within an hour 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:06.880 or two. 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:07.400 Yea. 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:13.000 Anyway, we it's like nighttime. The road from Falls Creek 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.720 to Aubrey is just windy as like snake of a road. 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:21.400 So I'm getting like and I'm like starting to get 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.920 a bit woozy. And he's like, okay, maybe not as 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:30.440 good as we thought, Like get to Aubrey hospital. I'm 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:34.800 like borderline like stumble into this hospital, getting a bit 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:39.960 woozy by this point, and it and cluggers the dark. 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.520 We go up to the front counter. It's like, yeah, 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.359 we probably need to get seen pretty quick because he's struggling, 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.360 not looking good. Like we only into this room. I'm 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:52.680 sitting on the bed, like take your full pants off. 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.639 So I'm sitting there naked on this thing with like 0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:01.840 this big sack of blood and the other big set and. 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.720 The way you just like gave me the eyebrow. 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:09.240 Oh yeah, anyway of course this would happen, right, So 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:14.360 I'm sitting there naked and like, yeah, things aren't looking great. 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:16.080 Your finest moment. 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:20.440 The two like hottest nurses all the time walk in, 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:25.240 so I'm like, there's I'm fully vulnerable. I got nothing, 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:26.840 so I'm making jokes about it. 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.120 They didn't give you like a towel or anything like covering, 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:31.280 just full spreading. 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:32.320 Just out there. 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:33.040 Oh gosh. 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.320 Anyway, they're like yeah, the nurses come in and stuff, 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.240 and I'm like, you know, They're like, we're gonna have 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.000 to wheel you straight into surgery, like straight into surgery, 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.080 straight into surgery, like this is a bigger deal than 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.920 you think. Like you I like hit an artery and 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.840 they're like, you're bleeding like pretty severely internally. And I 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.679 was like pretty doped up by then. I'm like, oh, 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.480 just at a couple of inches. While we're in there 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:59.160 and all these all these jokes wheeling me in there, 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:04.240 I'm telling jokes why I'm going under pass out. I 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:08.200 wake up and there's like four or five people looking 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.080 over me and they're like, oh, I think fuck, Like 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.720 we can finally go home because it was like three 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.720 in the morning, okay, and yeah, So they wheeled me 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:20.000 into the first room that had a space, which was 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.800 it's like this old folk ward, and it was like 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.520 full of Alzheimer's patients. So I'm like in this foreign 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.400 place in the middle of nowhere, just being out of surgery, 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.639 and there's all these elderly Alzheimer's patients in the background 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:41.040 screaming where am I? Where am I? I was like, 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.040 this is great. This is the best work trip I've 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.520 ever been on. But yeah, so it wasn't. Yeah, the 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:52.280 blood flowed down again without getting too graphic, but not 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.960 far below your hips, your pelvis, your hanging through is 0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:00.120 the rest of it. And so it filled. 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:05.080 Up Oh no, well okay, so that's all connected. 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.080 Yeah, okay, yeah, it filled up that. So it looked 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.680 like I just had the biggest Cajonis of all anyway. 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.800 So yeah, they had to drain all that and and 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:19.800 stitch up my my bag cut. Yeah, the vessel, the artery, 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.679 the artery. Yeah, and yeah. Then I spent seven days 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:24.440 just sitting. 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.119 In Alzheimer's reward. 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.240 Yeah that was my bike crash story. 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.560 Jesus filling your whole the whole thing up with blood. 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.959 Oh yeah, I would just and you would yeah, like 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.920 you said, like you you're probably embarrassed by in the 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:39.359 first place, so you don't want to say anything, and 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.080 the next thing you know, it's like quite serious and 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:42.800 you're going, I'm gonna have to do something about this. 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.359 I'm gonna have to reveal the story. 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.240 I have a bit of history of that too. There 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.840 was one where we played a soccer match, indoor soccer match, 0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:50.880 and I pushed Bucks over while I was doing up 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:56.720 his shoes. Good idea dumbest, so dumb, and then yeah, 0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.720 I fancied myself as a bit of an indoor soccer players. 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.520 Were most of the injuries from the Colling football come 0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.640 on the sprong floor playing indoor soccer with the coaches. 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.320 It's been broken arms, acls, hamstring squads. 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.080 They started back up this year and there's like three 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.199 boys walking around after day one and I was like, 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:12.680 what'd you do? 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.360 Quad? Yeah, I'm like, did you start playing the indoor soccer? Yep? 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.280 And yeah. So I was running down like the wing 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.439 with the ball and I could just feel like something 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.840 in my peripherals and Bucks just like hip and shouldered 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.639 me into this curtain and I stood on like the 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.840 pole that weighs the curtain down and like blew out 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:32.280 my ankle. 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:32.680 Oh. 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.479 I didn't want to show weakness in front of like 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:40.760 all these like elite x AFL like x AFL players. Yeah, 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:42.959 so I just kept it under wraps and then we 0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:47.040 went out for dinner and it had swollen to the 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:48.000 size of the football. 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:49.600 But you didn't after it was done, you didn't go 0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.120 to the doctor back, Oh there's something that going on. 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.000 Nothing. I was like, I just walked this off and 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.960 then it was in so much like I couldn't step 0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.000 on it or anything. And why didn't you just tell us? 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:02.760 Because they found out eventually when I just yeah, of 0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.239 course home from the restaurant and they strapped it up 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.800 and did all that stuff and looked after you looked 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.560 after me. So that's yeah, what's what's the learning moment 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.480 of that? We'll tell people that you got an injury. 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.600 Now, it's don't pushbucks over always can't I shoe? 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:19.160 It's good. 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:20.640 Yeah, he walked ou into that one. Oh right, last one, 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.320 last one. We might have come with this this week. 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.600 Joe Biden old sleepy Joe, my boy, sleepy Joe. He 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:26.680 had a bit of a mishap. 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.440 Now, I don't think this could get even more embarrassing 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.600 from his standpoint, Like this is a man who obviously 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.760 is told a lot. He's told, Hey, we'll show up 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.880 to this place. We're doing this, say this, say these 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.320 people's names. Make sure you hit these bullet points. You know, 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.080 we'll get out of here and everyone will be happy. 0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.520 He's a man that is literally probably just run by 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.160 his people around him telling him what to do and 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.320 when to be places and what to say. And this 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.280 week he went on to this White House event, right, 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.479 and he goes up and he's doing his big speech, 0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.680 and there's a lady that's organized these things for the 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.040 past few years, right, her name's Jackie and Biden up 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.000 there he goes, oh, man, man, thanks so much. You know, 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.400 everyone's so great to see everyone such and such. Just 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.960 want special mention to Jackie. I know, is she out 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.760 there where you're at, Jackie? He's looking around for Jackie now. Unfortunately, 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.360 and God rest as soult Jackie passed away in a 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:13.840 car crash a month earlier. 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:15.040 That's not funny. 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:15.920 It's not funny. 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.600 And Joe Biden was not up to date on this 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.560 so this so then he's awkwardly sitting there and everyone 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.160 in the room is aware of this, Like everyone in 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.760 the room knows that this has happened. He's gone and 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.800 just gone silent for three or four seconds, trying to 0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.360 look for and I'm sure the pr people potus are 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.880 going stop, don't move on, move on, need to get 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.720 to the next thing. But it's all recorded, as things 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.640 are in these days, right, And he sat there awkwardly, 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.960 And I don't think there could be a worse moment 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.800 in your life of going I'm an absolute prick for 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.560 bringing this up and just totally ignorance, thrown under the rock. 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.240 Just embarrassing moment when on one you can't even back 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.800 out of them. No, it's recorded, man, your potus. You're 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.080 literally the president of the United States. There's no way 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:57.480 this is not going to make TikTok. 0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.400 Yeah, if you weren't briefed on that, well someone's getting 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.080 absolutely starched. And if you were briefed on it, I 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:05.880 don't even know what you do. 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.400 Oh man, all right, we'll go into the first one. 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.240 That mad Monday. Now you haven't we had wacky Wednesday. 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.200 Now we haven't really caught up since it's too much. Yeah, 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.040 so Wacky Wednesday was a bit of a big day. 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:17.400 Yeah. 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.800 I actually had a sixteen hours straight of being out. Really, 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.120 that's a big deal for me. Yeah, I saw the 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:25.320 sun come up the next day. 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:26.240 That's massive. 0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.600 It was a huge night for me. I will tell 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.400 you the place we ended up, Branton. It wasn't it 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.400 wasn't my highlight of my life. I will say that 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.320 my brother wanted to experience some of the depths of 0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:39.160 Melbourne and some of the well known institutions we say 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.280 of Melbourne. We didn't spend very long there, but it 0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.000 was a little pop in, pop out, go home. Realized 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:46.720 I shouldn't have done that, and then move on. 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.960 So well, no photos have come out yet. 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.200 Yeah, exactly if anyone did see me, though, I do 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:52.760 have a photo I can, I can maybe shure I'll 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.080 show you later. But yeah, I was. I was the 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.400 hoodie on yeah glasses hat. 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.200 Sounds like you would have fit in. Yeah, if you 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.880 went where I think you went. Yeah, let's say no 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:04.600 one really knew me. 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:09.040 I don't think anybody was probably even capable, probably you know, 0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.000 saying the ABC's at that point at night. 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:12.880 But it was good fun. It was good fun to 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.600 show the probably around, showing one of the steples I 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.440 had never been to my life. I plan on never 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.400 going back, so anyway, but I digress. 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.640 Well, it's funny you bring up Mad Monday, because we 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.760 did have a Mad Monday story sent in from a 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:28.240 listener and it's all time. It's all time. It goes 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:32.600 in instantly Hall of Famer. But yeah, without further ado, 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.120 let's just jump straight into it, all. 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.800 Right, It's not my Mad Monday, but my boyfriend at 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.680 the time, his team, the Agrators, had won the Grand 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.680 Final on the Monday. They had dressed up as sailors 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.480 or whatever reason. Dropped him off at the club at 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.400 nine am, and then they were supposed to be going 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:48.800 on a bit of a pub crawl. It wasn't going 0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:50.120 to have a big one because he had worked the 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.400 next day anyway, dropped him off at nine am, heard 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.720 from him at six thirty that the year was on 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.160 a ferry. They had gotten a bus about an hour 0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.400 hour and a half too the Brisbane airport and then 0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.200 got a plane to Townsville and we're then on a 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.640 ferry going over to Magnetic Island, where one of our 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.400 friends had a charter company, and they decided they want 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.320 to go nighttime fishing. They were all so pissed by 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.440 the time they got onto the ferry that they then 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.680 couldn't go fishing. There was then a big storm the 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.000 next day, stranding them on the island because all the 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.400 fairies were cut and they ended up having to stay 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.000 on Magnetic Island for another two days and got home 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.520 on the Thursday. It was the last big mad Monday 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.440 they had. It was a lot of pissed off wives 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:31.680 and bosses. 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.800 Say, how do you explain that to the boss? Oh? Sorry, mate, 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.320 decided to have one of the biggest math minds. I love. 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.480 I must say, I love the commitment to book a 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.440 flight for a mad Monday, like proper took a bus 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.560 without knowing to an airport to go to a place 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.200 of unknown location to essentially try to go fishing. And 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.080 then the whole thing just flips on its head and 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.320 then the storm comes in says now, boys, we're going 0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:53.480 to spend two three days here. 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.080 And that's what so it started off. Is not going 0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:58.960 to have a big one, going. 0:33:58.880 --> 0:33:59.520 To have a couple. 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.040 But that's what you always you know, I feel like 0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.920 every person always tells. The message goes, don't worry, it's 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.400 not It's going to be a pretty low key night. 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.359 We're only going to have a few. Now, if you know, 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:13.160 most males in this world, a few means entirely too many. Now, 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.239 if you said, like I'm driving and like I'm not 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.480 going to drink any understandable now. A few is your 0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.799 way of saying, like, honey, I need permission to leave 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.160 the house, and I know you're not going to be 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:24.640 happy with him when we get back, but I want 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.600 to let you know that there is a possibility this 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.440 might turn into a bit of a lit night. 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:32.000 Yeah, because I a couple's definitely more than a few, 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.640 and a few is just like you're already planned to 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.400 get written off. Yeah, so yeah, so yeah, to leave 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:44.720 on a flight, catch multiple fairies out to an island, 0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.360 and then you get stuck there. So it was a 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.720 mad Monday turned into a Thursday. So that's a few days. 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.160 I had Mad Monday. He had to kill it, Tuesday, 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.400 Wacky Wednesday, and Thursday Thursday all. 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.920 Within one week. It was a great little week for 0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:58.400 the club. 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.520 I like that. And then yeah, so I don't know 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.920 how you explain it to the wives end bosses, but jeez, 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:05.040 that's rough. 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:05.879 That's rough. 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.719 But I mean do you sit there on like, let's 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.320 say you get to Tuesday or Wednesday, do you just 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.279 kind of go, well, you know, I might as well 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.439 enjoy myself here because I can't really do anything else 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:13.959 about it. 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.799 One hundred percent. You have to. So the boys would 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.080 have been like flat the next day, bit hungover, Yeah, 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:20.920 going like jah, we stuffed this up. 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.160 But then well we organizers probably guy copet it too. 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.200 We're here, we may as well make the most of it. 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.400 When can we get back not till Thursday? We got 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:36.480 at least Tuesday, bit hungover Wednesday, make sure we're ready 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:37.080 to make. 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:38.880 Sure that Thursday you've got the opportunity to get on 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:39.320 that boat. 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.120 Yeah. So I don't know. That was probably one of 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:46.440 the all time mad Mondays. But my thought out of 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.560 that a question to the audience, Yeah, when has you 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:54.600 know a couple of drinks turned into something bigger? Yeah, 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.880 Like you go out, you planing on just having a couple, 0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:00.080 and you wake up in a different state on an isle. 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.040 Like there's got to be someone who's booked the next 0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.359 flight out, babe, and we're gonna go and it's just 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.160 turned absolutely dreadful. 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.640 Get you wake up in Balley. Yeah, that's one from 0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.840 us a time that it turned into something bigger. 0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.160 Yeah, Okay, I like that. There's gonna be a few 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:17.600 good ones working on that. Send them through. 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.239 Sure, there's gonna be I reckon, we'll have twenty on 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.680 the pod. They're just gonna be absolutely gold mines. 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.600 All right, kick us off into what do we. 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.439 Got the next thing? Yes, everyone loves it. Everyone loves 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.839 the entertainment section. Why because neither one of us are 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.359 very good at this and were just trying to pop 0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.080 it up to be something way bigger it is and 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.560 it's something that everyone can talk about on the water 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.439 cooler at work the next day. 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:37.719 Right. 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.520 Yeah, so big week, big week this week. I know 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.799 you've been all about it, Brandon. Yeah, Paris Fashion Week, 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.360 I know, crazy, biggest week of the year for you. 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.480 I know, I don't believe me, and I know you 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.720 would have seen this because this was big news now, Bella. 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:55.120 Indeed, I think I'm saying, all right, I did I did? 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:56.400 I did? I did I do? 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.359 She ended up going out, right, So she's come into 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.320 this runway and it's this big oh gasp. 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.200 I know who she is. She's some influencer. I think 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:05.120 her model. She's a model. 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.480 Yeah, whoo, that would make sense. Yeah, being on the runway, Yeah, 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.360 it makes sense. She comes out and she's like essentially 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.640 in like nude underwear is I think what it's called 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.920 maybe the Kim Kardashian Is thing. 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.520 I think, yeah, yeah, we're just gonna go with that. Yeah, 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.280 you're telling the story. Yeah, I'm telling the story. Anyway. 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.120 So then these people come out with these spray things, 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:22.759 like you know, like you're spray painting the side of 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.280 the house or like spray painting like a yeah, like paint, 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.320 like spray paint, like spray paint, and they essentially starts 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:28.120 spraying her. 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.360 Yeah, and I'm. 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.200 Like, this is weird. Everyone's gone, what's going on in here? 0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:33.680 The police, something's happening. 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.839 But it's not like paint, Like it's this like kind 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.960 of cotton synthetic thing, right right. They paint her and 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.640 they do this whole kind of like three sixt year 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.359 round this blah blah blah. And then this girl comes 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:44.759 out in this lady and then she like kind of 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.160 does these two things and cuts a little bit of 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.360 the paint and the paints solidified into a dress. 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:51.920 So they sprayed address on her. 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.400 Essentially, they created a dress on the runway brain and 0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.640 this has never been done before. This is big news. 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:00.800 And obviously you've got one of the biggest models in 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.800 the world. And it was beautiful, absolutely beautiful. The dress 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:05.840 was good, actually was pretty good. Yeah, I was a 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.399 little way. I'll love when Ember people do something different, right, 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.399 and this is big for the Paris Fashion Week because 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.560 we were very fashionable people, right as you can all 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.680 see the glasses, that's all we got going for us. 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.160 But no, that was a big deal and I think 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:20.560 everyone should know that. So if you do see a 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.839 female work tomorrow, ask you to go day Paris Fashion Week. 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.880 Do you see that little dress that the little hooded 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:27.319 was wearing show? 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.080 Oh my gosh, I can't believe you know about that, 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:31.000 Oh my gosh. 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.440 And they'll be like, you know, it's my little in 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.000 It comes a little in, a little end to the people. 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.400 I might be into fashion at work, you know. 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.360 Yeah, so it is practical. It is very fun to 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.799 go out and you're like, I forgot to wear clothes again. 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.359 That just spread because it's like a spray tamp place 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:45.759 and just. 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.719 Like sort it out, just duck in, stump down in 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.640 a little Yeah, no need I need to rent, you know, 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:51.520 outfits anymore. 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.439 You just go to the local place spray on cold good. 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.600 It looked really good. I have credit to her. 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:57.680 I think it just has to look good enough if 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.759 it's practical, Like if you forgot to wear a shirt outside, yeah, 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.000 or you just didn't wear a shirt because you cocky 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.279 or whatever, and then you go to a pub and 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.160 they're like, mate, no shoes, no shirt, no service. You 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.279 just go wow, mate, and then whip out your can 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:12.640 of shirt and just spray it on. 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:15.719 Yeah, no, that would actually work. 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:16.520 Don't think about that. 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.080 Do you think about that problem solved? Anyway? 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.040 That was faris fashion work. Everyone obviously knows, massive, massive week. 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.840 Now the other tangle of it of like conversation starters, 0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.640 because you clearly you do a little bit of research, 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.319 but it's not we skim in there. Well, I'm not 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:34.880 conversation started. 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.879 It's a conversation starter. It's a water cooler chat. 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.040 We're just helping you start it exactly. 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.080 And then you let them go on the whole you 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.279 know details, and they tell you the rast and you 0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.319 just you're the spark to the fire. 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.960 Yeah. Essentially, you can tell the little joke about the 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:50.960 spray on shirt. You can you can keep that one. 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.000 Yeah, you can keep that. Just copy your right bread cocks. 0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.200 This one is the biggest one since the Chess fiesco 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.000 we touched on the Chess. 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:01.360 This crazy times. 0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:06.359 Ohio fishermen nearly get a beat down after stuffing their 0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:10.960 fish with eight pounds of sinkers at Lake Erie fishing tournament. 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:11.840 Lake Erie. 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.800 There's a couple of ways to win. It's like length 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:20.320 and girth, which you know all about, and there's weight. 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.600 So let me break it on down. I'll give you 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.880 a bit of a brief synopsis before diving in. So 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.040 there's two guys. They team up in pairs of two, 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.919 and there's fishing tournaments, pro fishing tournaments all around Australia. 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:38.360 So you know, these these guys enter these fishing tournaments 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.200 and they've been winning and there's big money in these 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.640 fishing tournaments. So in this one that they got caught 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.640 cheating in it was forty five grand wow for the winner. Anyway, 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.720 let me now jump into the story. So a couple 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.319 of fishermen have been accused of cheating by making their 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:57.440 catches seem heavier than they were. They stuffed their fish 0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.800 with eight pounds of lead eggs, so they're in the 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:04.560 shape of an egg but it's just lead and they 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:09.000 were caught doing it there's also slices of fish filets 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:10.920 in there, so they stuffed them with these eggs and 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:14.799 then stuffed them with fish filets. Kind at all. They 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.080 were escorted away from the tournament by police and they'll 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:21.520 most likely be charged with fraud and possibly other charges. 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.759 So one of these guys across his career, just to 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.240 give you an idea of what these guys are earning, 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.720 one of these guys over the course of his career 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.480 had earned around three million dollars. 0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.080 Three million dollars. 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:40.200 So, like they've won, you know, boats and trailer packages 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.520 and so you win all kinds. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:43.680 Of stuff including outsights. 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.920 Yeah, and you get like, you know, if you've got 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.360 the heaviest fish, you get like a little five k bonus, 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.040 and then there's the overall leaderboard and all of that stuff. 0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:54.919 But these guys won a tournament back in twenty twenty one, 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.560 and so people are going like, well, how far back 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.919 does this go that were doing this? This is only 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.319 really just started. And to give you an idea of, 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:06.480 you know, how serious everyone was taking this. This is 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.520 just a little snippet of an angry mob that formed. 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.719 Oh I can only imagine the Burgans that were here 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:12.520 at this fishing termament. 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.480 All these pro fishers are like, is this in Australia, 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:19.440 This is in the in Ohio, Ohio. So there's guns involved. Well, 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:24.200 these guys are like they've essentially robbed all these other fishermen, 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.360 fishermen that have also traveled around to these tournaments. So 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:38.200 here's a little grab of these these angry fishermen. So 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:40.280 they're aggressive. They're aggressive. 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.840 You talk about angry mob, that is angry mob mentality. 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.120 Yeah, and that's the light part of it. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.480 That's the light as people being four f bombs ten 0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:49.360 second claim. 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.720 People essentially threatening to off them at this tournament. 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.879 Yeah, okay, I understand why the police ascored. 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.520 Plice ha'scorded amount of there pretty pretty quick. So yeah, 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.560 so an idea first place at this tournament that they 0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:03.960 were caught cheating in is apparently forty five grand if 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.840 you win. Ye. But yeah, he's made a lot of 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.960 money over the course of his career, so now he'll be, 0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.560 you know, go up for fraud chargers and all of that. 0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:16.000 So it's watch this space on the Ohio Pro Fishing League. 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:21.280 The PFL. I it up, not the PC, the PFL, 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:21.680 not the. 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.240 Piece couse with the PC. I don't know which everyone 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:25.080 knows is the professional. 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.440 Back to the audio clup again, what's what is my mentality? 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:27.920 Sound like? 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.480 Sounds like the biggest stone, like cheers, You've sucked over 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:35.320 a lot of people. 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.839 Man, a man, it's not cool. It's not cool. Man. 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.480 So this one is interesting because I feel like there's 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.680 a there's a little spot in the market that we 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:46.319 could do something here. We've talked about tailgating huge Okay, yeah, 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:51.360 I feel like as the podcast evolves, this is something 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:56.520 that could evolve with it is creating tailgating in Australia 0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.319 before games yep. So make it a thing that we 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.200 have to partner up with, you know, an events company 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.360 or you know, a brand to get it off the ground, 0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.360 whether we do it at the MCG parking lot or 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.720 we do it nearby tailgating before you know, Collingwood Games 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.760 or whatever. Head down, you know, have a couple of beers, 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.799 have some food, a bit of brisket or whatever. Watch 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:23.000 the start of the game there maybe you know, wander 0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:24.360 over to the stadium when it starts. 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:26.840 I can't think we should do this for the tennis yeah, 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.560 and then you got all the matches going on right we. 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.160 Have to compete with the massive outdoor event that they 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.400 already have. I was, we don't have to compete with 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:36.600 anyone because no one's doing it. 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:37.040 True. 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:42.560 So this is a Florida headline tailgates strip club. Now 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:48.080 stick with me. Miami Dolphins selling the Miami Dolphins fan 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:52.520 sparks controversy by setting up a makeshift strip club in 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.000 the parking lot ahead of the game. So there's video 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.040 that's come out of strippers dancing in this makeshift strip 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:01.920 club outside a hard rock stadium, music blaring in the background. 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.480 Fans can be seen throwing money money and enjoying the 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.040 company of the dancers as they live life to the fullest. 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.040 And this hasn't no one really investigated, no one's been 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.040 in trouble. It's just all part of the show. So 0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.000 they're wondering if it's going to return. So now all 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.000 eyes are on the parking lot for the next Miami 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:23.040 Dolphins game. The next one's away, then there's the home game, 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:24.600 so they're wondering if it's going to return. 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.160 See, whenever you're trying to sell tailigating to Australians, if 0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.400 you just started with that, if you just literally started 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.920 tailgate strip club, I reckon a lot of people go, 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:33.640 I'm actually on board with this. 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.080 I actually think this is a great idea. Brighton. 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.959 I think you'd have some really discussing men going up. Nope, 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.799 you've got something, You've got something here. We should rarely 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:42.279 run with this. 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.520 Because they have that pub across the road from the 0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:49.840 g On, across from Richmond's. Yeah, yeah, that does something similar, the. 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.960 Topless Bar, yeah, which I find amazing that still exists. 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:54.560 There was a brothel around there at one point. I 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.480 came to this country and that someone told me brothels 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.040 was legal, and I was like, sorry, what. 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:02.640 Yeah, they're a thing still it. I think they've died out. 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.320 I don't know. None of the ones. 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:07.279 Shut down. 0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:12.000 No, no, not too Sue. All right, that's it for me, 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.680 jumping out of that straight into dating. What do you 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:16.080 go for us? You got anything for us? 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:16.520 Man? 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.520 My da life might just carrying the team. 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:19.800 You're carrying it heavy. 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:24.640 Well, we do have a brutal bad date. Oh love that. 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.160 So this is only the best voicemails make it on. 0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.319 But we love the voicemails. They make the podcast. We 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.839 just talk in between voicemails. Really, so this is a 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:35.800 bad date from one of our listeners. 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.239 This happened when I just turned eighteen, just finished your 0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:41.439 twelve exams, just got my license, very excited. This good 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.359 looking guy messages me and he asked me on a date. 0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:46.560 We're in a couple of mutual circles. I was like, 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:49.360 well why not. So he gave me a dress and 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.359 asked me to pick him up at twelve thirty because 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:52.960 he didn't have his license, which should have been a 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.440 red flag at the beginning. 0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:55.520 So I show up. 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:56.680 He lived about an hour away. 0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.719 I knock on the front door and this Oldish guy 0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:00.839 like answers the door and I'm like, oh, you're old 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:01.719 enough to be my dad. 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.400 You're not the guy that I'm going on a date with. 0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.840 And he goes, oh, he's in bed asleep still, do 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:07.640 you want to come in? 0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.240 And I was like, oh, yeah, no worries. I was expecting, 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.040 you know, a mom or a dad to be there 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:12.879 as well, but no. 0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:16.600 The entire extended family was sitting in the living room. 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:18.799 So everyone sitting something called Shiva, which is like a 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.480 morning period for Jewish people following the death of a 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.239 loved one. So I'm sitting in the living room of 0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.880 his late grandmother with a family of a man that 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.760 I've never met. Finally, he comes out of his bedroom. 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.440 He goes, oh, would you like to go to this place? 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.279 I was like, yeah, no worries. He orders a ten 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.800 dollar milkshake with it, which is a joke in itself, 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:41.000 and a big breakfast. I just get a coffee because 0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:42.759 I was like no, this is this is traumatic. And 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.239 then he goes, oh, I haven't brought my wallet. Do 0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.680 you mind paying? And I was like I'd really rather not, 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.279 but I feel like this is my only option here. 0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:54.160 So I was like, noa, this is too bad. I've 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.239 got to not be in such a deficit. I'll see 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.160 him one more time and he can pay for dinner 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.480 and then we're done. He told me he loved me 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.320 after the second date. It was just awful. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.880 That's this. She went on a second date after he 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.400 pulled her into a morning of the family. Like, yeah, 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.799 what so that's I'm like, first of all, there's the 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:14.839 ten dollars milkshake, right, let's break this down. 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:16.919 There's the ten dollar milkshake into big breakfast. But before 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.120 we even get to that, he lives an hour away. 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.960 That's already that is that's that's fifty bucks in patrol. 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:23.120 That's already a big commitment. 0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:24.040 That's commitment right there. 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.080 That's when you're set in your radius. Oh no, hang up, 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.320 it's like yeah five ten max. 0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.839 Yeah, what's the town you're from here? 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:35.759 Chuker just south, just south of what I let you remember, 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:39.000 somewhere else, like a little town outside Choker, Rochie, Rochi. 0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:42.360 Yeah, yeah, it's Rochy. Whenever you're in Rochy, you extend. 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:43.800 The climates are about two hundred. 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.760 Yeah, yeah, of course there's only like four people in Rounchy. 0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:51.279 You're gonna go on a dam. 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:52.520 Anyway. 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.920 So fifty bucks in patrol probably ten dollar milkshake you 0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.279 get there. Dad answers that he lose it. Mom and 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:02.240 Das I'm assuming it was gramp. Grandpa answers the door. Yeah, 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.560 a girl that does not even on first date, never 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:06.600 even met the Doude before. 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:09.720 So as soon as he goes, I's still in bed 0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.520 out of left, third red flag Ida left. I know 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:15.560 what I'm saying, like, that's like, wake do we not? 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.480 Texting him saying like I'm on my way and he's going, 0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.080 oh yeah, okay, how far are you? 0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.600 An hour hour? Cos And he goes, oh, sorry, I 0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:22.399 love still in bed. 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.400 Yeah, if you didn't text, then you just headed off. 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.560 I don't know, but there's some more details we need 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:28.799 to have. 0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.440 So then yeah, so she's sitting in the late grandmother's 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.400 living room where he's asleep, and she's sitting there with 0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.600 the whole family going through like this, you know, morning process, 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:41.480 and he didn't think to cancel the date. Yeah, so 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:45.040 he rolls out and clearly takes advantage with the milkshake, 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:49.040 ten bucks, big breakfast. That's at least twenty five So 0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.239 that's Yeah, you're already in the whole thirty five or 0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:55.480 thirty plus fifty dollars in patrol. Yeah, so already not good, 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.760 and I'm along for the journey up until that point. 0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:01.640 I'm with you. He's a dick, like, shouldn't have even 0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:02.440 gone to Brecky. 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:03.360 Yeah, I agree. 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.720 You don't go on the second day. No, that's a shocker, 0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:13.520 that's just that's on you. But you take the loss, 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.880 you go. Yep, that's what we're saying, Like, you know, 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:21.719 fifty to eighty bucks, you take the l you move on, life, lessons, 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.680 you live, and you grow. You go back for seconds. 0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:28.640 Oh my god, he must have been really good looking. 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.399 No wonder he said he loved you after the second date. 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:34.000 If you just you know, paying for everything, for everything, 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.320 help through the parts in his life. 0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.280 Oh my god, you got a heart of soul love there. 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.719 Just to say you love someone like I love you 0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:45.919 on the second date. You gotta have just a heart 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:47.640 of gold, hard of gold to just be able to 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:48.879 want to deal with that and be able to show 0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:49.239 out out. 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:54.600 That's brutal. The earlier I love you, jeez, oh, that's creamy. 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.040 Right. When would you say I love you? Ever said 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:57.799 I love you to a girl? 0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:00.000 Yeah? 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:00.399 How long? 0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:01.160 Well? Once? 0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:01.880 Once? 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:03.560 It's pretty scarring, but o. 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:05.120 How long into the relationship? 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.319 I was so it freaked me out because I'd never 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:13.680 felt it and I never said it. And then as 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.360 you get into it, you don't know what it feels like, 0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.680 so you don't know if you're experiencing it, And then 0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:23.400 you get so far in you're like, I better just 0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:27.400 kind of say it, yes, because I don't know what 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:28.960 it is if I'm ever going to feel it, if 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.359 I'm feeling it and I just haven't noticed, so then 0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:35.080 you just yeah, say it, and then you might grow 0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.120 into it, you might not or whatever. But it's just 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:37.719 a real life. 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:39.440 It's a real commitment unless you're. 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.759 Genuinely feeling it, which I know what it feels like 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:46.000 now so I could identify it. But it's like I 0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.400 feel like when you're seeing someone for a period of time, 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:55.280 you're like, well, I probably just got to say it now. 0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:01.040 You come back with some brutal as like like I 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:05.399 like you too, I appreciate that or something like that. 0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.400 So that and then you're like, now the now the 0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:11.640 clock has started, like there was no real pressure they 0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:13.759 say it. Then the clock starts and you're like, I 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.719 better feel it soon, so you're trying to feel it, 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.920 and then yeah, it's like this for real. So then 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:23.440 it gets to a point where they're like, come on, 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.319 you got to say it now. So then you're like, say, 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:30.319 backed into a corner, yeah, and yeah, so yeah it is. 0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:31.319 It is real. 0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:31.640 Weird. 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.359 It is rough. What about you? You can't get out 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:35.040 of this one. 0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:39.040 Move into the next segment. 0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:43.360 No, I have I have maybe once or twice once 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.240 early early girlfriend back in the US. 0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.080 That's what when I said seventeen. 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:52.120 Years old, I've said it twice, but I meant it once. Yeah, okay, 0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:54.719 my high school girlfriend. It was like the same, and 0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.319 you're like, I love you. You're the best thing that's 0:52:57.320 --> 0:53:01.279 ever happened to me, future wife. But it's like, no, 0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:01.680 I had. 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:03.399 A high school girlfriend. I said that too. She moved 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.200 to college, same college and stuff and everything else. And 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.920 then I won't say the details because she might listen 0:53:07.960 --> 0:53:10.279 to this, but yeah, it didn't go so well once 0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.840 you got to college. Yeah, yeah, there's other things that 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:16.680 may be sidetracked and myself, you know, or whatever may be, 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.080 and we went on our separate ways essentially. Yeah, I 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:20.520 haven't really said it since I think, well. 0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:22.080 I want to ask this because whenever you want a date, right, 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.879 so we've got these bad dating stories and everything else, 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:25.640 I want to know from the listeners kind of what 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.319 is what is the must haves in a date, you know, 0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:30.279 as a male or female? Right, So let's say from 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.400 the males, because I'm going to think like I would be, 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.640 is you're, you know, must have someone opening the door 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:35.880 for you? 0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:36.719 Is that a must have? 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:38.719 Or is that something you go, I'm a female, I 0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:41.480 can open my own doors, get stuffed. Yeah, it's paying 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.920 for a meal or must I think it's a must. 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:45.960 But I know I like to say I'll pay for 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:48.840 the meal. I like them to at least say, hey, no, 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.400 let me help, and then I'd be kind of like that, No, 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:52.239 I'm stubborn. 0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:53.400 I'm going to pay for this, you know. 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.520 No, I'm a rich athlete. I got this, not a 0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:58.919 rich athlete. I paid for your lunch last time. 0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.319 I paid for your grilled of times, mate, don't even 0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.200 try to talk about this. 0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:08.480 So we go, We get grilled after the podcast, and 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.160 so you call up and you leave your fake name, 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:15.200 which is cool. I tell everyone what that is. But 0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.080 you call up, Yeah, I'm getting grilled. You're like, what 0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:19.520 do you want? I'll get the same as you. It's 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.600 exactly what I said. I'll get the same as you. Right, 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:28.080 So Mason, gracious graciously paying for dinner. 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:29.480 We go. 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:32.280 We get the meal, which is two. 0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:35.640 Burgers, two chicken burgers, Simon says. 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:41.960 Chicken nuggets because you're you gotta be, and zucchini chips 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:46.440 to share. We get back to the car. Here's your burger, Brandon, 0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:50.200 see you later. You're get in the car and piss 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.120 off with the zucchini chips and the nuggets and the burger. 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.839 How is that I'll have the same as you? So 0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:59.960 then I just go inside and eat like this little 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:06.080 fucking peasant server of burger still that piece of ship. 0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.719 You paid for it, what you paid for your own meal. 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:15.359 I gave you a burger, sling me a bur that's 0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:15.680 on me. 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:16.680 Yeah, I forgot. 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:19.240 You did it on purpose. 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:22.120 Now you've said it that you've made it, and you've 0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:25.080 said a statement, I won't do it again. All the 0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:26.880 other one I want to ask, does the male or 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.000 female organize and pick the spot to go out and 0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.640 the time and place today? Biggest trainer, So because that's 0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:33.600 always that's always kind of an annoying part for me. 0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:35.719 It is like where do you live? What when are 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.000 you free? Where do you what kind of food do you? 0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:40.520 Like, like give me at least direction in the genre 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:43.320 or like what type of food and also kind of 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:45.200 a vibe if it's like a you know, a wine 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.439 bar or are we talking like a proper sit down meal. 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:50.480 Yeah, so that's opening the door thing. I feel like 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.480 kind of backed into a corner with that one, and 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.719 not like don't pity us, but you know, it's a 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.120 real fifty to fifty because you can, like, you know, 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:02.440 if you hold a door open for anyone, that's fine, 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.040 I don't see that as a big thing. But if 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:07.040 you like pull a chair out or whatever, it's like, mate, 0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:10.000 I can pull out my own chair, Like I got arms. 0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:13.000 I'm fully capable of pulling out my own chair. Whereas 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:15.359 like there's some group of people that are like, oh 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:17.480 I like that. Yeah. It's so it's like a real 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.279 fifty to fifty. So it's hard to read the play. 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:24.759 If it's the first date, I lean towards like let 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:28.120 people do their own basic as stuff. Yeah, okay, when 0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:30.560 it comes to paying for the meal, I automatically just 0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:33.160 do the first date, Like I don't even think about, 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:37.920 like what the protocol is, I just do it. But 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.040 then it's always good if you kick onto the next 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.600 place they buy the first drink or like something like 0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.600 it's we're all in it together, we're all struggling, we're 0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:46.560 all out here battling. 0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:48.359 I'm glad you make it to the next part where 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:49.520 you say for the drink. 0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.480 Yeah, there's something because like if I've been on dates 0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:58.240 with girls that just fully expect and it's not like it's. 0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:00.120 Some an issue, but it's like a thank you or 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:01.879 like a fake offering is nice. 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:06.040 There's a difference because it's like being appreciative of someone 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.800 doing it, and then it's like I'm fine with doing it, 0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.200 not an issue in the world, But it becomes an 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:14.200 issue when it's like just fully expected. It's like you're 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.800 getting this yeah, or you're getting I'll have this drink. Thanks, 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:20.600 You're like, okay, I guess I'm getting it, like that 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.560 kind of stuff. It just yeah, it's like I'm happy 0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:26.320 to do it, but don't expect it. 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.160 And then just show appreciation, I think is the biggest thing. 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.000 But it's not even like oh my god, thank you 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.000 something like that, not even over appreciation, just oh, thanks 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.400 for paying, thanks for the meal, thanks for dinner, thanks 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:40.360 for going out tonight, and then organizing and picking the 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:44.600 spot I hate. But I know it's like that's probably 0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:47.320 appreciated the most out of everything. Yes, if you're like, 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:49.160 I'll pick a spot between us and I'll find like 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:51.640 a nice wine bar. Yea cool with something like that. 0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:54.560 Oh yeah, wine bar sounds nice. You've got to check it, 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:58.560 like they drink's at drinking figure out well they're not. 0:57:58.600 --> 0:57:59.160 They want to do it. 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:01.760 Yeah, Well, what's your day, like, reckon, do you want 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.200 to grab something to eat or something like that it's 0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:06.720 massively appreciated. It is a lot of effort. I got 0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:08.400 asked this because I've done this before. Is this kind 0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:08.960 of messed up? 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:12.880 Now? I usually just because I'm my life's become chaotic, right, 0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:15.320 I usually just go this place this time, meet me here, 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.040 see you then. Yeah, no need to like check in beforehand, 0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:20.560 say I've left, or you know, just still making sure 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:22.480 where I'm Like if I'm I'm in, I'm in, right. 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:26.120 I wanna do something now. I've been known to do 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.520 this with a lot of things because my life has 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:32.400 run off my calendar. I have calendar invite since something 0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:34.880 to someone to say there's a date locked in for us. 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:36.600 Is that a bit aggressive? 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:38.080 Like? Is that a bit calendar in. 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:40.640 The calendar for be like Mason Cox and so and 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:45.000 so date this place this time, accept the invitation in 0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:47.320 both our calendars. We know that's going to happen. It's 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:51.000 going to go like it's locked in. Is that acceptable? 0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:53.000 Just to make it feel too formal, That's. 0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.080 What I mean. I think it does. But that's like 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.160 that's like me knowing I won't forget now. 0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.200 But I feel like it's the same with like the 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:03.680 opening the door. It's like half the population would like him, 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:06.880 be like, oh, this guy's organized and forthright and everything, 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:08.680 and then the other people would be like, oh, is 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:09.800 this like a business meeting? 0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:11.040 Yeah. 0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:12.920 So it's like you can't please everyone. 0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:13.800 No, you can't. 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:17.520 But it's like the people that are happy with that, 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:18.640 they're your people. 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:20.600 They're the people's bed. 0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:21.520 Yeah, exactly. 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.840 Hopefully go to the second day. Yeah, just hopefully, and 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:25.680 Grandma is not in a bad place. 0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:26.360 I love you. 0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:28.360 After the second I love you have to say ad 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.439 date and say, you know what, this might be the one. 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.280 All right, so let's jump straight into the foot Yeah hurt? 0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:34.920 All right? 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:36.680 So I haven't seen you since the Grand Final? What 0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:37.919 did you think of the Grand Dog? 0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:38.160 Shit? 0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:39.720 Where did you watch the Grand Final? 0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:42.440 Friend's place? And I can't go to Grand Finals if 0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:42.960 I'm not in it. 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:47.720 I'm jealous, pissed and filthy, and especially after the showing 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.040 that was oh got on my nerves. 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:55.280 So here's one of those. Do you think Collingwood would 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:56.840 have put up a better showing than Sydney? 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:01.680 No, look this, you know, there's no way of knowing this, 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:04.680 but Sidney Peters respectively, and they deserve. 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:05.240 To be there. 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:06.919 Do I think maybe you would have set up better 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.280 against Geelong or we've played Geelong in the past and 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:10.920 had better games that were more entertaining. 1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:12.320 Yes, I know that's a fact. 1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:12.920 That's fact. 1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:14.640 You know, it is what it is. End of the day. 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:16.600 They earn their spot there and that's that's whether they 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:18.240 played well or not. That's on them. 1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:21.000 But like they you know, we're well or you know, 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:23.040 able to get across the line against us and get 1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:24.600 the spot in the Grand Final and they deserve it. 1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:27.120 And I was hoping you said that because all the 1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:28.080 people on Twitter. 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.640 Colling throw me under the bus there, but it won't you. 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.439 Putting it out there. Okay, but yeah, Collingwood fans or whatever. 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:34.880 We would have played a better game. We would have 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.360 played a better game. It doesn't matter. It didn't make it. Yeah, 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:39.920 and it sucks. It's part of footy. It's part of 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:42.080 the footy journey. You suck it up, you go again. 1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:43.600 Only two teams can be in it. They have the 1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:46.400 two teams that earn't the right. As much as it sucks, 1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:48.360 that's what happened. 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:50.360 If you won't watch us plage along. We did it 1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:51.800 twice during the year and we lost both of them 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:53.240 by like a kick so rough. 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:57.000 Yeah, let's keep firing through that. Jordan Degoi, I don't 1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.960 know if you know five years baby, what's your whole 1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:00.800 thoughts around it? 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:03.760 Well, would love, would love to have a little bit 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:07.400 of that cash, Just love to have some of security, 1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:09.160 a little bit of money in the back parking. It 1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:11.400 would be nice, wouldn't it. Yeah, Well, I probably got 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:13.160 kicked about six goals a game. We might get there. 1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:16.800 But obviously all week was a talking point based on 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:22.960 the behavioral clauses in the contract public? Do you think 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:26.320 there should be allowed to be behavioral clauses above and 1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:29.640 beyond what's what's in there from an afl PA, you know, 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:31.840 standard contract point of view. 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:36.000 To a certain degree, maybe I think from a legality 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:38.480 degree maybe, Like you know, I think I was going 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.360 to think, like we are role models twenty four to seven, 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.560 and whether we realize that we want to be or not, 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:45.040 like we are in the media like because of our job. 1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:46.160 Yeah, and that is it. 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:48.520 But I think the biggest thing is like whenever that 1:01:48.640 --> 1:01:50.560 kind of came out, like I kind of read a 1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:51.680 bit up on it, and I was like, you know 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:55.160 what what probably happened was, you know, they go, you know, 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:57.760 these stipulations and then he's gone back and he's going, Okay, 1:01:57.760 --> 1:01:59.600 you're gonna have to be a bit more specific here, Yeah, 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:02.040 because vague you know, like I assume what probably happens 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:03.360 is like you can't do the X Y Z if 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:06.240 this happens, like we you know, no, avoid the contract. 1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:08.040 But it's like, I think we'll probably have He came 1:02:08.040 --> 1:02:09.560 back to look, I want to have this in writing 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.120 specifically of what happens, to make sure that you know, 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:14.600 I'm not going to sit there and something minuscule happens, 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:16.600 like he maybe runs a red light and all of 1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:17.920 a sudden, they going contract's done. 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:19.360 Yeah, Like he doesn't want that to happen. 1:02:19.400 --> 1:02:20.920 Yeah, So I think probably what was happening is they 1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:23.080 were trying to go back, you know, fine tooth come 1:02:23.120 --> 1:02:25.440 this saying bit of finer details and everything else, because 1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:27.800 you know, it's it's understandable for me to start a 1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:29.920 standpoint he doesn't want to get sacked for some miniscul 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:32.120 thing that happens, and the club also doesn't want something 1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:34.080 big happen that's going to be ruining the reputation from 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:37.560 the same time, you know, So there's understandable parts from 1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:38.640 both sides of the spectrum. 1:02:38.640 --> 1:02:40.280 But I have no idea the ins and out of 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:42.480 what actually happened. I just know that the media loves 1:02:42.480 --> 1:02:44.360 to run with these things because Jordan Degi makes a 1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:46.520 headline for anyone in the area in Australia. 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:48.480 But the managers also put it out in the media. 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:50.840 We all know that that happens, and that's real. It's 1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:54.400 like we want people to know what's happening behind closed doors, 1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:56.760 or we want to put you know, Saint Kildo against 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:59.240 Collingwood to give more money. Like we all know that 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.280 the managers put it out there, but yeah, if it's 1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:04.080 if it was because of the vagueness of it, it's like, 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:08.000 if you have off field issues, we can terminate your contract. 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:10.000 Well it's like yeah, but what what is like if 1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:14.800 jaywalk am I getting the sack or like anything beyond that, 1:03:15.200 --> 1:03:15.960 because I think like. 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:18.080 Right now in contracts right and it's written in there, 1:03:18.200 --> 1:03:21.800 so it's like we can't like skydive like wakeboard ski 1:03:21.960 --> 1:03:24.640 and then it kind of says like et cetera. And 1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:27.200 it's like, okay, well, what does that et cetera count? 1:03:27.240 --> 1:03:29.120 You know, if I'm like, you know, if. 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:31.200 I'm in a zor ball going down a hill? Does 1:03:31.200 --> 1:03:33.400 that count? Like, you know, and I do money that 1:03:33.480 --> 1:03:33.920 kind of thing. 1:03:34.040 --> 1:03:36.000 Like there's a bit of you know, there's a bit 1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:38.880 of gray gray area there, so I think a lot 1:03:38.920 --> 1:03:41.800 of it. Yeah, exactly exactly, So I think the gray 1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:43.640 area probably just had to be cleared up a bit more. 1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:44.920 And that's kind of where it all went. And then 1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:46.360 the contract was signed. 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:47.560 But a lot of times I don't saying this is 1:03:47.600 --> 1:03:50.080 the case, but a lot of times contracts can actually 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:53.600 be signed plenty in advance, like you know, let's say 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:56.440 not saying this kind of this contract with Georgie specifically, 1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:59.120 but like there's people sign a contract, you know, and 1:03:59.160 --> 1:04:02.000 then three four months later, the AFL says yes to 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:03.960 the contract and takes off everything else, and then it 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:07.120 becomes public. So these players are going all of a sudden, 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:09.320 they go, oh, well, congrats, you're signed, and he goes, yeah, 1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:11.720 I signed that three months ago. Likewise, it's just now 1:04:11.760 --> 1:04:14.400 coming together, you know, coming to light. So sometimes it's 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:17.240 it just like waits on the AFL to actually create 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:19.760 because they have the overarching ability over all the clubs, 1:04:19.760 --> 1:04:21.880 because they own everyone that they have to take off 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:23.919 all the different things with the appearances and everything else 1:04:23.960 --> 1:04:26.360 within the contract. They go through that and fine tooth 1:04:26.400 --> 1:04:28.120 come that, and then they sign and then that's whenever 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:30.560 it becomes public because every signature from all the different 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:31.920 parties has actually created it. 1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:35.400 And now that follows on into my next question. Do 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:38.840 you think that AFL clubs should be able to control 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:44.000 what AFL players do outside of contact times? So you're 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:47.600 contracted to be a training from let's just hypothetically say 1:04:47.720 --> 1:04:51.880 seven am to five pm. You go home after that 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:56.200 and have a beer or have five beers. Should it 1:04:56.240 --> 1:04:59.800 just be that your performance dictates whether you get to 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:04.080 or not. And outside of that, it's it shouldn't be 1:05:04.160 --> 1:05:06.160 anything to do with the club. And I'll say this 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:09.040 before we get into it. We interviewed Ben Graham on 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:14.520 another podcast and when he became captain at Seahawks whatever 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.360 one of them, he said that players would go out 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:21.040 to strip clubs the night before a game and stay 1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:24.520 out all night. He was like, right now, I'm captain, 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:27.200 there's going to be change. He got them all into 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:30.480 the change rooms and said, strip club before the game. 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:34.680 We can't be doing that. Straight away, all the players 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:38.720 like unanimously went, nah, get the union in here. You 1:05:38.760 --> 1:05:41.320 can't be telling us what to do outside of like 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:44.280 contact ours. That's our life. We get to do whatever. 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:47.240 If we decided to go out and drink and then 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:50.600 perform poorly, just dropped on us, drop us or cut 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:52.720 us from the list. But we get to do whatever 1:05:52.760 --> 1:05:56.200 we want in our own time. So and then what 1:05:57.000 --> 1:06:00.360 fans say and spectators say is, yeah, well they paid 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:04.160 good money. But a lot of players don't see if 1:06:04.160 --> 1:06:07.240 you're getting paid like, you know, eighty one hundred, two 1:06:07.320 --> 1:06:11.400 hundred grand, and it's like we own you three sixty five. 1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:13.400 We get to tell you what to do and what 1:06:13.480 --> 1:06:17.240 not to do all the time. It's like, you know, 1:06:17.480 --> 1:06:19.480 I know people that earn you know, one hundred grand, 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:22.520 two hundred grand in like the corporate world. Imagine if 1:06:22.560 --> 1:06:26.880 their boss went like, hey, Larry, don't drink at all, 1:06:27.440 --> 1:06:28.760 don't you know if. 1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:30.240 You want to keep your job, If you. 1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:32.160 Want to keep your job, you're not allowed to drink. 1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:33.720 You're not allowed to do anything. But it's like if 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:36.240 Larry's coming in nine to five and doing his job 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:38.880 and executing and hitting all of his you know, quotas 1:06:38.920 --> 1:06:42.080 or whatever, Yeah, it's fine. You can do whatever you 1:06:42.120 --> 1:06:43.920 want your free time what's the difference, And do you 1:06:43.960 --> 1:06:46.440 think that clubs should be able to dictate what players 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:48.640 do throughout their off time. 1:06:48.800 --> 1:06:51.919 So here's a big thing is like clubs are a 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:55.880 public thing, right, So clubs have sponsors. Sponsors have a 1:06:55.920 --> 1:06:56.920 certain kind of image. 1:06:56.720 --> 1:06:58.720 They want to bring to their brand, and you are 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:01.280 a representation from a marketing aspect of the brand of 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:04.720 let's say Collingwood, right. So I think from that standpoint, 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:06.520 you have to understand that if you do things that 1:07:06.560 --> 1:07:10.200 are against the morals and ethics of these sponsors or 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:12.920 the club room may be, then you have to be 1:07:13.280 --> 1:07:17.160 understanding that you're not it's not just on field. You're 1:07:17.160 --> 1:07:20.360 a representation of the club and something bigger. And if 1:07:20.400 --> 1:07:23.240 you do something to you know, take that repetition away 1:07:23.240 --> 1:07:25.960 from someone, that might be a financial costing. So you 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:28.520 can imagine if a sponsor comes up to us and says, oh, 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:32.440 let's say you know Victoria responsible gaming, right and you're 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:35.400 promoting gambling, get in trouble for some kind of gambling thing, right, 1:07:35.800 --> 1:07:37.960 you can imagine like they're not going to sit there 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:39.880 and go, oh, we want to sponsor them still because 1:07:39.880 --> 1:07:43.160 they're having issues with people and being able to live 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:46.400 up to the legalities around responsible gambling, so they might 1:07:46.480 --> 1:07:48.160 drop it. You know, Let's say they're sponsoring us for 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:50.160 one hundred grand, you lose one hundred grand all of 1:07:50.160 --> 1:07:52.360 a sudden, it's like, okay, well that's not on me, 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:54.600 that's on the person. That's you know, not following our 1:07:54.640 --> 1:07:58.320 girls and regulations around you know, sponsorships. So there's sides 1:07:58.360 --> 1:08:00.000 of it like that I can understand. But there is 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:01.680 the other sides where it says, you know, if I'm 1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:04.640 performing on the field, then I should be able to 1:08:04.680 --> 1:08:06.920 live a normal life as per you know, whatever you 1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:09.880 want to call it, per a normal human. And I 1:08:09.880 --> 1:08:12.640 think there's certain things where if you get in legal trouble, 1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:15.560 like yes, you should have some kind of you know, 1:08:15.800 --> 1:08:18.760 reprimand for that. Then that's I think that's pretty understandable. 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:21.720 Like I think everyone who's in legal trouble, whether it 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:24.240 be drunk driving or whether it be you know, I 1:08:24.360 --> 1:08:25.880 don't know, like if someone on a team, like we're 1:08:25.960 --> 1:08:27.240 to murder someone, you know, it's not like all of 1:08:27.280 --> 1:08:30.160 a sudden you go, oh, were You're okay to play? Right? 1:08:30.200 --> 1:08:30.719 Like you're good? 1:08:30.800 --> 1:08:33.439 Like there's certain things from a legality standpoint that you 1:08:33.520 --> 1:08:35.800 have to be able to uphold a certain image from 1:08:35.800 --> 1:08:38.800 the club. Whenever you sign a contract, there is you know, 1:08:38.880 --> 1:08:40.800 statements within that contract that says, you know, you have 1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:42.960 to be able to uphold this thing. Say, I think 1:08:43.000 --> 1:08:46.080 from my standpoint, it's a bit of a you have 1:08:46.120 --> 1:08:48.960 to allow us to live around life as long as 1:08:48.960 --> 1:08:53.400 we're not crossing a certain threshold of what's appropriate. And 1:08:53.439 --> 1:08:54.880 you're not gonna sit there and tell me like, oh, 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:57.720 I can't go and drink right now, because then the 1:08:57.720 --> 1:08:59.960 off season yea, Like for a long time, we have 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:03.000 this big issue where clubs were you know, tracking people's 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:05.400 GPSS and tracking how much they worked out in the 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:06.840 off season and everything else, and we had to kick 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:08.200 back and say, you know what, no, it's our off time, 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:10.880 give us some space. And there was this big kickback 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:13.559 with that saying like we shouldn't be having GPS trackers 1:09:13.600 --> 1:09:16.040 on us while we're in the off season. So there's 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:18.120 things like that where clubs are doing that, like all 1:09:18.120 --> 1:09:19.800 of a sad you had to log every single workout 1:09:19.800 --> 1:09:21.439 and show us a GPS data that came with it, 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:21.920 and it's. 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:22.960 Like you're just on all the time. 1:09:23.040 --> 1:09:24.000 Yeah, it's like, well, where. 1:09:23.800 --> 1:09:25.240 Am I going to be abdle to detox from this 1:09:25.320 --> 1:09:28.800 chaotic life that is AFL. So there's a bit of both, man, 1:09:28.800 --> 1:09:31.040 I understand. Like I think from the legality standpoint, I 1:09:31.040 --> 1:09:32.800 think you have to be understanding that you are more 1:09:32.840 --> 1:09:34.840 than just the person you are on the field. You're 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:37.040 the representation of the club, its sponsors, and everyone else 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:39.160 that's involved, and if you do anything they can be 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:41.960 detrimental to that, then you have to be reprimanded for 1:09:42.040 --> 1:09:43.360 those circumstances. 1:09:43.520 --> 1:09:46.479 Yeah, which I feel like if if you did something 1:09:46.520 --> 1:09:49.720 illegal when you're at any business, it becomes public, you 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:51.600 get the sack. But it's like, you know, oh, we 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:54.680 got a short week this week, no drinking. Oh we 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:57.960 like there's only x amount of finite times in a 1:09:58.000 --> 1:10:00.639 season you can go out you have so you can 1:10:00.880 --> 1:10:02.880 like go out with your friends or whatever. 1:10:03.360 --> 1:10:04.360 Well, we've got that client. 1:10:04.360 --> 1:10:05.800 We've got a seven day break, so if we have 1:10:05.840 --> 1:10:07.400 anything that's over a seven day break, you can go 1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:10.519 have a drink. If you have anything that's under seven days, 1:10:10.520 --> 1:10:12.640 then you're not allowed to, Yeah, which understandable because it's 1:10:12.640 --> 1:10:14.200 like you have to be able to get recovery. Obviously, 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.559 everyone knows drinking is not great for recovery. You have 1:10:16.640 --> 1:10:19.200 to be able to try to maximize your ability to 1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:21.920 recover from a game before to be able to maximize 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:22.719 the opportunity to come. 1:10:22.600 --> 1:10:23.559 In fresh for the next game. 1:10:23.680 --> 1:10:24.360 Isn't that on either? 1:10:24.960 --> 1:10:26.519 It is And if you get caught out then you'll 1:10:26.520 --> 1:10:29.040 get reprimmended. Yeah, and you might miss a game, like 1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:30.840 you might get suspended for a game from the other 1:10:30.880 --> 1:10:32.080 club's perspective. 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:34.520 And then that goes into a broader chat. So obviously 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:37.680 Hawthorne are going through some pretty serious, you know, allegations 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:39.759 at the moment, but it's branching off in all different 1:10:39.760 --> 1:10:42.360 areas if those kind of actions from the club can 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:45.760 turn into something more serious and sinister. For example, of 1:10:45.880 --> 1:10:50.080 like Sam Mitchell said in his book that you know, 1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:53.320 they took our phones office to go on interstate trip. See, 1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:55.479 some people might go like, oh, like it makes sense 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:57.840 so you can focus or whatever. But you know, if 1:10:57.840 --> 1:10:59.720 you've got kids, if you've got a wife, if you've 1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:03.600 got in that circumstance like a sick kid, it's like, no, 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:05.840 I want to be able to still communicate with my family. 1:11:05.880 --> 1:11:08.439 And it's like, well you're not taking it serious. Ah, yeah, 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:10.920 Like it can be used against you and weaponize against you. 1:11:11.000 --> 1:11:14.280 It creates like a you know, a scary environment when 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:17.920 it turns sinister like that, and then obviously you know 1:11:18.280 --> 1:11:22.240 it can have bigger, more severe repercussions when you talk 1:11:22.240 --> 1:11:25.840 about you know, terminating pregnancies or even in like essenonce case, 1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:29.559 like you know, take this, like just trust us, take 1:11:29.720 --> 1:11:33.200 this and creates an environment kind of like that where 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:36.080 it's like we control everything you do and you just 1:11:36.120 --> 1:11:38.919 have to trust this that we've got our best intention, 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:42.040 like your best intentions as a team, as an individual 1:11:43.160 --> 1:11:46.599 does it? I know it starts something small like like 1:11:47.200 --> 1:11:49.800 drinking on a Tuesday or something, but then goes into 1:11:49.840 --> 1:11:53.080 like taking phones and like having control over the players. 1:11:53.439 --> 1:11:54.920 Is there a point where it's like, you know, the 1:11:54.960 --> 1:11:57.840 players have to the AFLPA should really be coming out 1:11:57.880 --> 1:12:00.640 and going like what are you doing? The players are 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:04.519 the players when they're in their contracted hours, and outside 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:06.559 of that, they're humans. They get to go do their 1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:10.439 own thing. The biggest punishment for being in this life 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:12.720 is you know, going to play golf and someone just 1:12:12.760 --> 1:12:14.720 stares at them from a distance, or you go out 1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:17.439 to a restaurant and someone hounds them at a restaurant 1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:19.680 for like a photo or a signature or what are 1:12:19.720 --> 1:12:22.679 you doing on the weekend. That's more of the downside 1:12:22.720 --> 1:12:27.080 of being you know, famous or athlete in Australia, Like, 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:29.439 is there a point where you know, the AFLPA and 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:31.479 the players have to be going like let's rain it 1:12:31.479 --> 1:12:31.800 back in. 1:12:31.920 --> 1:12:32.080 Yeah. 1:12:32.080 --> 1:12:34.400 I think there's a certain amount of responsibility that a 1:12:34.439 --> 1:12:36.160 club has to take on because they're taking in these 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:38.639 eighteen year old kids who they're going to essentially let's 1:12:38.640 --> 1:12:40.439 say hopefully they have a ten year career and it's 1:12:40.640 --> 1:12:42.800 molded into something like that. But they're molding these people 1:12:42.800 --> 1:12:45.479 into these humans that have these kind of morals and 1:12:45.520 --> 1:12:47.840 ethics and everything else, right, And if you don't have 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:50.160 a good culture that's teaching the right morals or ethics, 1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:53.320 then you know, you're almost breeding these kids in the 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:55.679 terrible environment that's going to turn them into terrible people 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:57.680 kind of thing like, And I think there needs to 1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:00.599 be just this understanding from a clubs for perspector that 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:03.479 not only are you providing them with you know, the 1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:06.160 athletic ability and providing them with you know, the weights, 1:13:06.200 --> 1:13:08.040 training and everything else in the platform to be able 1:13:08.040 --> 1:13:09.439 to go perform on the field, but you need to 1:13:09.439 --> 1:13:10.800 be able to take care of them away from the 1:13:10.800 --> 1:13:13.920 field and make them into decent humans. Like there's how 1:13:14.000 --> 1:13:17.799 much time you spend as an athlete, and as an athlete, 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:20.320 like within this club, you think about from traveling to 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:23.400 new weekends and you know weekends are now playing games 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:25.400 and now like everything you do is kind of wrapped 1:13:25.439 --> 1:13:27.599 around this kind of idea and this you know, this 1:13:27.680 --> 1:13:30.200 thing that is you as an AFL footballer, Like you 1:13:30.280 --> 1:13:31.840 need to be able to help mold them in the 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:34.360 right direction and steer them in the right direction, whether 1:13:34.360 --> 1:13:35.519 it be you know, telling them to say, hey, you 1:13:35.520 --> 1:13:37.519 need to start studying because maybe your career is not 1:13:37.560 --> 1:13:38.960 going to be like last as long as you think 1:13:38.960 --> 1:13:40.439 it will. You need to have some kind of education 1:13:40.479 --> 1:13:42.280 once you come out of this, like telling them you 1:13:42.280 --> 1:13:43.920 need to do more media if that's something you're interested in, 1:13:44.040 --> 1:13:45.080 you know, try to figure that out. 1:13:45.080 --> 1:13:47.160 Whether it be you know, saying, yeah, you know you 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:48.760 went on the weekend, you shouldn't have gone out on 1:13:48.760 --> 1:13:50.679 the weekend, had beers, you know, really back in whatever 1:13:50.680 --> 1:13:53.200 it may be, and you talk about taking away phones 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:53.720 and stuff like that. 1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:56.360 There's certain bit I can understand where let's say you 1:13:56.360 --> 1:13:57.760 we used to do this at the club. We used 1:13:57.760 --> 1:14:00.080 to take away phones there a lunch, so whenever you 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:02.000 go sit down lunch, you have to go interact and 1:14:02.040 --> 1:14:03.760 you'd be kind of uns forced, but like you'd be 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:05.400 encouraged to speak to the people next to year, so 1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:06.880 you would get to know the people on admin, you 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:09.479 get to know the player development managers, you know the 1:14:09.520 --> 1:14:11.400 coaches better, the teammates, all that kind of stuff, and 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:13.719 you get your phone back in the in the hour, 1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:15.840 you know. So I understand those kind of things to 1:14:15.920 --> 1:14:18.840 try to build culture in a sense where you want 1:14:18.840 --> 1:14:20.879 to have more people understanding each other and getting. 1:14:20.640 --> 1:14:21.240 To know each other. 1:14:21.320 --> 1:14:24.400 But there's definitely a limit on all that, and I 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:27.760 think that's where Hawthorne has definitely overstepped that boundary. 1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:30.240 If you've been inside the Four Walls, you know, clubs 1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:34.080 are essentially pretty rogue, Like they get to create and 1:14:34.120 --> 1:14:36.760 dictate their own rules, so they get to determine where 1:14:36.800 --> 1:14:37.439 the line is. 1:14:37.600 --> 1:14:40.240 A lot of times they're their parents now, like they 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:42.040 move away from home and it's like okay, well now 1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:45.200 you are literally my kind of guardian as a club, 1:14:45.320 --> 1:14:47.559 Like you are there to help me protect me in 1:14:47.680 --> 1:14:49.480 I go to you whenever something goes wrong. 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:52.000 Which is where like something as simple as like supplements. 1:14:52.479 --> 1:14:55.160 If you're an eighteen year old kid coming in fresh 1:14:55.200 --> 1:14:58.599 and they're like here, take this, You're like, well, this 1:14:58.720 --> 1:15:03.320 is Collingwood. Example, it's the biggest club in the league. 1:15:04.040 --> 1:15:06.559 I assume that they're going to have, you know, the 1:15:06.600 --> 1:15:09.240 best people inside the four walls. They're going to have 1:15:09.240 --> 1:15:11.920 the best nutritionis, they're going to have like the best 1:15:12.000 --> 1:15:14.120 you know, coaches, They're going to have the best of everything. 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:16.320 So when someone comes up to you and says take this, 1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:18.960 You're not even gonna think twice, because like you've got 1:15:19.640 --> 1:15:22.759 a level of trust that you put into these people 1:15:23.280 --> 1:15:28.479 to essentially kind of keep raising you as a person. Yeah, 1:15:28.520 --> 1:15:30.519 it's like you can just see how it leads to 1:15:31.040 --> 1:15:35.160 things like this happening. I reckon even bare minimum is 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:37.920 like a legacy for like someone like Gil is like 1:15:38.160 --> 1:15:41.360 they should be going back and checking player welfare in 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:45.840 particular obviously like indigenous player welfare, but beyond that of 1:15:45.920 --> 1:15:49.599 like what's going on. We can't just like leave all 1:15:49.680 --> 1:15:52.360 clubs to have one hundred percent control over and everything 1:15:52.400 --> 1:15:55.920 and set lines and like all of that kind of stuff. 1:15:56.280 --> 1:15:57.479 It's yeah, I feel. 1:15:57.320 --> 1:15:59.080 Like I think we'll probably happen. This is like the 1:15:59.120 --> 1:16:02.640 player was proposed Overlian in trusting the club that you know, 1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:05.120 they ask these questions that were life questions that are 1:16:05.200 --> 1:16:06.080 separate from work. 1:16:06.520 --> 1:16:09.400 Yeah, they're asking guidance in their life. Whenever they work 1:16:09.479 --> 1:16:11.240 is giving them guidance in their life whenever it should 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:13.920 be almost like that's that's separate, Like that shouldn't be that, 1:16:13.920 --> 1:16:15.680 it shouldn't be affecting your work kind of thing, Like 1:16:15.720 --> 1:16:18.200 you can make your life experiences and everything else away 1:16:18.200 --> 1:16:20.400 from they don't have to be totally intertwined twenty four 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:23.000 to seven. Yeah, I think that's why way they overstapped, 1:16:23.040 --> 1:16:25.040 And it's like, man, you can't be telling them, you know, 1:16:25.120 --> 1:16:27.640 how to live their life outside of the club. You 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:29.440 need to be able to give them, you know, opportunities 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:31.799 to say like look, man, this is like your own. 1:16:31.840 --> 1:16:33.639 This is your own journey. This is an odd journey. 1:16:33.720 --> 1:16:35.760 Like we're like, you're part of our journey doing you're wrong, 1:16:35.800 --> 1:16:38.519 but like we're not dictating your full life journey. 1:16:38.600 --> 1:16:41.519 Because if you pull back from that element of the 1:16:41.560 --> 1:16:45.439 club having total control, kids coming in and go like, oh, 1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:46.960 I need to be able to stand on my own 1:16:46.960 --> 1:16:49.360 two feet and run my own life. I can't just 1:16:49.400 --> 1:16:51.479 go like, well, the club, you do everything, tell me 1:16:51.520 --> 1:16:53.280 where to go, what to eat, what to do, when 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:56.360 to do it? Yeah, like to jump, how high? All 1:16:56.400 --> 1:16:59.080 that stuff like if you, if you? If you? Yeah, 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:00.959 it's just a really interesting space because. 1:17:00.800 --> 1:17:02.439 One thing, one thing I'll say around is one of 1:17:02.439 --> 1:17:04.840 the issues I have right now is there's a soft cap. 1:17:04.960 --> 1:17:05.200 Right. 1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:07.760 So like obviously with our cloud we were lucky enough 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:09.960 we have enough money that we're financially stable, and some 1:17:10.000 --> 1:17:12.200 other clubs might not then need steppings from the AFL 1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:14.600 whatever it may be. But you talk about sitting there 1:17:14.640 --> 1:17:16.800 and going like that sensag. You talk about that it's 1:17:16.840 --> 1:17:19.040 like you're trusting of the doctor and trusting of everyone else, 1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:21.360 and it's like yeah, okay. But then you say you 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:23.800 in your mind as an eighteen year old thinking, oh well, 1:17:23.800 --> 1:17:25.920 I'm in the AFL, this is the bigest sport in Australia. 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:28.760 This must be the best doctors in Australia. Yeah, this 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:30.479 must be the best physios in Australia, this must be 1:17:30.600 --> 1:17:32.680 everything must be the best. But then you sit there 1:17:32.720 --> 1:17:34.960 and go, now we're gonna put a soft cap on everyone. Yeah, 1:17:35.000 --> 1:17:36.559 and you go, well, why would the best doctor come 1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:39.080 work for you know, let's say fifty grand, whether they're 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:41.960 making one hundred grand at private practice. You're not incentivizing 1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:44.080 those doctors be part of this program if you're gonna 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:45.720 sit there and put a cap on them. So there 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:48.000 should be there should be a certain limit of that cap. 1:17:48.040 --> 1:17:49.679 There should be a sitting there saying if it's anything 1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:52.000 for player welfare or anything to keep players on the 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:54.160 field and keep their bodies healthy, that shouldn't be capped. 1:17:54.479 --> 1:17:56.519 We shouldn't be limiting the kind of people we get 1:17:56.520 --> 1:17:58.800 in the program that you know, saying we're only going 1:17:58.880 --> 1:17:59.880 to pay you x amount, and then at the end 1:17:59.880 --> 1:18:01.400 of the you're gonna to go work your private practice 1:18:01.400 --> 1:18:02.920 because you don't we don't have enough money to be 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:04.479 able to pay you. If we have it in our 1:18:04.520 --> 1:18:06.559 bank account, we can pay someone. If we can pay 1:18:06.560 --> 1:18:08.760 our doctor more to get the best doctor there is 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:10.640 out there, we should be able to do that, or 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:12.320 have the doctor there full time. We should be able 1:18:12.360 --> 1:18:14.400 to do that. We shouldn't be sitting there saying, oh, sorry, 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:15.840 you got to leave at twelve because we don't pay 1:18:15.840 --> 1:18:17.960 you enough. You have to go work your other private practice. 1:18:17.960 --> 1:18:19.519 To make enough money to be able to feed your family. 1:18:19.840 --> 1:18:22.800 Well, compromise to be like exactly, that's what's might get 1:18:22.800 --> 1:18:24.320 a better doctor. But we're going to have to lose 1:18:24.360 --> 1:18:26.679 this stuff, mamma, exactly. And that's what's happening. 1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:29.040 Like the AFL soft caps that, and it's like there 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:31.360 should be a there should be a cause. And that says, 1:18:31.400 --> 1:18:33.439 you know, medical and everything else has to sit outside 1:18:33.479 --> 1:18:35.920 that cap spending for you know, whether it be tape 1:18:35.920 --> 1:18:37.599 and everything else to keep people in the same par 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:39.240 and that the AFL does all this kind of stuff right, 1:18:39.280 --> 1:18:42.080 So they're overarching people this, I understand that, but there's 1:18:42.080 --> 1:18:43.960 a certain things that should live outside of that, for 1:18:44.000 --> 1:18:47.599 player welfare and better you know, like lifelong. It's like 1:18:47.760 --> 1:18:48.920 you said, there at the end of the day, it's 1:18:48.960 --> 1:18:52.519 like you're really like limiting the players and what they 1:18:52.520 --> 1:18:55.360 can actually get from recovery and everything else because you're 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:56.800 not allowing people to be there as long as they 1:18:56.800 --> 1:18:58.720 should be. Like we have our head physio has to 1:18:58.720 --> 1:19:00.720 go do his private practice. So some times I'll go, hey, man, 1:19:00.720 --> 1:19:02.560 I'll catch you tomorrow. Why is that because I'll go 1:19:02.680 --> 1:19:05.960 get my practice And it's like, mate, I'm a professional athlete, 1:19:06.080 --> 1:19:08.080 like I should be able to be physio whenever I need. 1:19:08.120 --> 1:19:10.000 Like maybe that's me being selfish, I'm not sure, but 1:19:10.200 --> 1:19:12.160 whenever you cap it with a soft cap, it limits 1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:14.759 the you know, how far you can actually get better 1:19:15.160 --> 1:19:17.360 and how how good the actual game gets because you're 1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:19.479 sitting there saying, we can only pay you financially so much. 1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:22.000 Yeah, it would open up to broader stuff like you know, 1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:24.880 will the poorer clubs be able to lift up? But 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:27.400 that's that's been the problem with the AFL. The whole 1:19:27.439 --> 1:19:33.400 way cap the bigger clubs from potential growth to keep 1:19:33.439 --> 1:19:36.599 them down with the smaller clubs, which is you. 1:19:36.560 --> 1:19:38.760 Know, that's the AFLs, that's the whole kind of like 1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:40.960 you know business, it's going we want to make sure 1:19:40.960 --> 1:19:42.960 everyone's on the same level playing field, which I get, 1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:45.200 I totally get. Don't get me wrong. Do they know 1:19:45.360 --> 1:19:47.800 use that power? But sometimes yes, as any business would, 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:49.639 and I'm always going to have a bit of an 1:19:49.680 --> 1:19:52.200 opinion as I do, but like you should be able 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.120 to find a way to try to make it even 1:19:54.200 --> 1:19:59.479 with without having to restrict the ability for teams to grow. 1:20:00.400 --> 1:20:02.720 Well, yeah, I mean when they're funding smaller clubs just 1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:05.960 divvy up the funding to be skewed towards things like 1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:07.800 mental health and doctors and. 1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:10.360 Eighty ms like player development managers to sit there and 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:12.479 try to get kids lives on track. Und they finished footy. 1:20:12.720 --> 1:20:14.559 Well, that was good. That was a good chat. That 1:20:14.640 --> 1:20:17.160 was a really good in depth footy chat. We probably 1:20:17.160 --> 1:20:20.640 need something light to end on the Copeland trophy? Did 1:20:20.680 --> 1:20:21.559 you go to Copeland? 1:20:21.880 --> 1:20:22.280 I did? 1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:25.320 I did go to the copelandt It was my heart date, 1:20:25.400 --> 1:20:27.719 me and myself and I she was a beautiful, lovely lady. 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:29.639 No, I've been eight years. 1:20:29.680 --> 1:20:31.680 Never brought a date to a one year I did 1:20:31.720 --> 1:20:36.240 bring in maybe two years actually, jeez, jeven shining maybe. 1:20:36.000 --> 1:20:37.920 Anyway, few neols, so they. 1:20:37.800 --> 1:20:40.040 Were there further on. Uh, they were theirs in that 1:20:40.120 --> 1:20:42.160 ball player. So maybe that wasn't my date because they 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:44.759 had to do their own. Yeah, so eight years, never. 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:45.040 Had a date. 1:20:45.560 --> 1:20:47.280 And where'd you fit the top ten? 1:20:48.040 --> 1:20:48.280 Nah? 1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:50.559 No date, but they only show the top five, So 1:20:50.600 --> 1:20:52.639 I could have been six. I could have been six, brighton. 1:20:52.680 --> 1:20:53.960 I just didn't get his trophy for it. 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:54.160 You know. 1:20:54.200 --> 1:20:55.200 That's the way I'm thinking. 1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:58.679 Pendal's hand off is like watches. 1:20:59.600 --> 1:21:01.920 He would have twenty by now, yeah, he gets to 1:21:01.920 --> 1:21:03.720 watch every year. I don't know what he'd be doing 1:21:03.720 --> 1:21:04.479 with it. I mean, like. 1:21:05.920 --> 1:21:07.920 Selling for twenty grand what it is. You know he's going, 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:09.800 I've already got three of these mate, thanks tag. 1:21:10.760 --> 1:21:13.840 He's crazy. He's finished in the top three every year 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.880 since like two thousand and seven except for two years. Yeah, 1:21:16.920 --> 1:21:19.120 it's like two thousand and nine and two thousand seven. 1:21:19.520 --> 1:21:20.360 Yeah he's injured for it. 1:21:20.520 --> 1:21:22.760 Yeah. Yeah, like two thousand and nine was just an 1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:26.000 elite year. Yeah, and it's like he was, you know, twenty, 1:21:26.160 --> 1:21:28.960 he's really young. It's just like, yeah, he's finished top 1:21:29.000 --> 1:21:30.400 three for you know. 1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:32.479 Yeah, he's a gun. We all know this. He's a 1:21:32.479 --> 1:21:34.040 fine one. He's still killing it. 1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:37.400 You know at age got you know, sixty five, Like shit, dude, 1:21:37.400 --> 1:21:40.680 the dude's just an absolute fun one. And credit to him, 1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:42.200 you know, like whenever he wins these things. It's just 1:21:42.360 --> 1:21:44.599 you know, like there's this whole thing now Geelong's won 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:45.559 a championships and one. 1:21:45.600 --> 1:21:46.160 They're too old. 1:21:46.200 --> 1:21:48.120 They're too old, and it's like this whole idea that 1:21:48.160 --> 1:21:50.320 like once you hit thirty you shouldn't be able to 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:52.960 play AFL anymore. I think that stigma is now getting broken, 1:21:53.240 --> 1:21:55.599 especially now Geelong Pendles all these kind of people Joel 1:21:55.600 --> 1:21:57.360 who's like been successful and still can play at the 1:21:57.400 --> 1:21:59.800 high level. I think even you talk about different sports 1:21:59.800 --> 1:22:02.479 home Rady like these people are playing at the high 1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:04.760 level and still outperforming people that are younger than them. 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:06.439 I understand there's a certain point you need to try 1:22:06.439 --> 1:22:09.200 to develop people. But if you still think there's value 1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:11.559 that you can get out of these people at thirty plus, 1:22:11.600 --> 1:22:13.560 then I think the mentality around it is starting to 1:22:13.600 --> 1:22:14.519 really change, which is good. 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:15.760 Good for me at least. 1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:17.439 One hundred percent. So you got, yeah, another three, four 1:22:17.520 --> 1:22:18.360 or five years left in. 1:22:18.400 --> 1:22:20.160 Wow, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, Who knows. 1:22:20.800 --> 1:22:23.120 If not just finish it around at Geelong. 1:22:23.280 --> 1:22:26.000 Yeah, exactly, little far oh yeah there yeah, just yeah, 1:22:26.040 --> 1:22:27.280 kicking back in the retirement life. 1:22:27.320 --> 1:22:29.559 Anyway, that's it for us. We've got a big week 1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:30.839 next week. Dave Thornton. 1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:34.080 Dave Thornton, he's a great man, great travel story coming 1:22:34.120 --> 1:22:35.720 to the travel Story is gold. 1:22:35.840 --> 1:22:37.600 Some crazy stories in there. And if you haven't go 1:22:37.720 --> 1:22:39.240 back and watched Nolan Cox. 1:22:39.120 --> 1:22:41.479 Yeah, the old Brother. There's a lot of good ones. 1:22:41.520 --> 1:22:43.240 And we're going to start getting back into these interviews 1:22:43.240 --> 1:22:45.240 because we've got interviews every couple weeks coming out now, 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:47.800 so we'll do interview, catch up, interview catch up again. 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:49.720 I'm going to go back to the States for a bit, 1:22:49.760 --> 1:22:52.160 but we're We've got some banked up ones and there's 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:53.760 some absolute treats in there. 1:22:53.760 --> 1:22:55.320 I'm telling you, we've got to get filthy in for 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:55.840 a little bit. 1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:57.599 I might get a little filthy in for a little 1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:00.439 bit of a Camiah who knows Little cam the big 1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:01.080 filthy film. 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:03.920 Well, thank you, thanks for having me on, and good luck. 1:23:03.760 --> 1:23:06.000 Over anytime mate. Before we go there, Before we go 1:23:06.080 --> 1:23:07.559 one are the seven platforms Braden. 1:23:07.479 --> 1:23:15.040 Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, shit, Apple, and. 1:23:15.120 --> 1:23:20.360 Your favorite book your favorite TikTok TikTok literally forgot your 1:23:20.400 --> 1:23:20.960 favorite one. 1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:23.440 I panic when I don't. 1:23:22.920 --> 1:23:25.240 Spotify, Spotify and half I know that's the key. You 1:23:25.280 --> 1:23:27.080 got to get through the first five anyway. But thanks 1:23:27.120 --> 1:23:29.679 so much everyone, Thank you brain for coming on. 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