Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Mason Cock Show. Now we've got
Speaker 1: an exciting one. I know we've kind of moved a
Speaker 1: bit of the scheduling around. Now we're back to the
Speaker 1: interview slash catch up sections every single week, and this
Speaker 1: week is the catch up. Now we've got plenty to cover.
Speaker 1: Last week, obviously, my brother was on. I was really nervous.
Speaker 1: He had some great stories talked about AFL getting into
Speaker 1: the league. We thought it was not even a real thing,
Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff, and it was awesome'
Speaker 1: talking about guns, religion, politics, We covered everything with a
Speaker 1: brother about in America and everything else. It was an
Speaker 1: awesome and awesome episodes. If you haven't heard it yet,
Speaker 1: go back listen to that one. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: But as always, we're going to start with the seven platforms.
Speaker 1: We've got Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Apple and Spotify.
Speaker 1: Foll us on all those like comment everything else and
Speaker 1: without further Actually, you know, I might actually release this
Speaker 1: before we introduce obviously the great man that does this
Speaker 1: with me. But next week we've got a guy that's
Speaker 1: hilarious when we share some hilarious stories, Dave Thornton. That
Speaker 1: man is seriously one of the funniest men I've ever
Speaker 1: met my life. So I have a look for that
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Speaker 1: I thing that pops up the notification to say that
Speaker 1: it's come out. So it's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good one, I promise. But without
Speaker 1: further ado, I will introduce the man that is here
Speaker 1: with me, Brandon Cox.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome to me.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to you, man, welcome back to you.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot, yeah, years since before the Grand Final.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, the Nolan episode was genuinely probably my favorite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did like.
Speaker 2: The Razor Ray episode, but Nolan was. It was so
Speaker 2: refreshing to hear your story from a different perspective and
Speaker 2: you just really get a sense of like you two
Speaker 2: just really made it up as like no one had
Speaker 2: any idea. You're essentially taking the piss out of Australia
Speaker 2: just coming over here being like like you pulled the
Speaker 2: wall over our eyes and just like going club the club,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it was great and yeah, especially Nolan putting
Speaker 2: on his like agent's hat full Jerry McGuire, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It's a really good episode. So if you have, if
Speaker 2: you decided to skip that for whatever because I wasn't
Speaker 2: on it, you go back and listen to that one
Speaker 2: because it was. Yeah, it's a banger.
Speaker 1: It's actually one favorites. Obviously I'm bit biased being family,
Speaker 1: but I think there's some absolute golden nuggets in that,
Speaker 1: like people haven't heard before.
Speaker 3: It's quite funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it? My favorite part that's towards the
Speaker 2: end is you know, sneaking out in your loud or.
Speaker 1: The sixty one Falcon Ranch hair. I'll just oh falcon Red.
Speaker 1: That thing was unreal.
Speaker 2: Rolling it down the hill. Yeah, there's some good ones
Speaker 2: in there. You smashing the antique photo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like one hundred Yeah, one hundred year old
Speaker 1: photo out of the glass broke, and let's just say
Speaker 1: we were putting the timeout corner for a decent chunk
Speaker 1: after that.
Speaker 2: There's some classics in there. So if you haven't checked
Speaker 2: it out, go back and checked that one out, because yeah,
Speaker 2: it's genuinely one of my favorites. I reckon, I love that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I'll start this off man, because before we recorded this,
Speaker 1: you came out of the house and nug boots man
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of wondering what's the deal with that, Like,
Speaker 1: are we allowed to now leave the house and ugboots?
Speaker 3: Is that appropriate?
Speaker 1: Like, I know, summer is almost towards the end now,
Speaker 1: like sorry, winters almost the end now we're almost into summer, Like,
Speaker 1: is ugboots still appropriate?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: It's actually yeah, because I'm wearing a jumper, shorts and ugboots,
Speaker 2: So it's a real confusing setup.
Speaker 1: It's a real Melbourne So if you're wearing sunglasses and
Speaker 1: a beanie, then I think you'd be full Melbourne kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I haven't done my washing in like a
Speaker 2: week and a half, so the shirt's like old and stinky.
Speaker 2: It's I'm in terrible areas and it's not I'm not
Speaker 2: even hungover. I'm just I'm thirty. I don't really give
Speaker 2: a shit, Like, yeah, I thought it halfway to the
Speaker 2: cafe to go get coffee and a toasty Were you
Speaker 2: in public? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow, okay local too? Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think about it sometimes, like is it is
Speaker 2: it appropriate? Can you leave the house in ugboots? I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't know, I've seen it. There's a
Speaker 2: high population of teenage kids around this area, so and
Speaker 2: they're always wearing you know, baggy trackies, baggy jumpers, hoodies,
Speaker 2: like super baggy clothes and ug boots and stuff. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe it's in in America.
Speaker 1: Man, if you walk out of nug boots like you
Speaker 1: were crucified, it's not appropriate outside the house.
Speaker 2: I remember I wore a beanie on an episode and
Speaker 2: some lady from America had a crack at me. It
Speaker 2: was like, what are you wearing like a whatever, a
Speaker 2: winter hat inside, Like don't you have a heater or something.
Speaker 1: I was like, she probably doesn't realize that the season's
Speaker 1: are opposite. She's probably sitting there in summer, gone it
Speaker 1: is forty degrees outside.
Speaker 3: Why is he wearing a beanie at the moment.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, here, it's like fashion, not like saying
Speaker 2: that I'm fashionable, but well, like it was an active choice.
Speaker 2: I wasn't wearing it because there was a blizzard outside.
Speaker 2: It was like, it can't be stuffed doing my hair.
Speaker 2: I wear a beanie, But I don't know. People are
Speaker 2: hard to please, But yeah, can you wear ugboots outside?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: You can't, that's the answer. That's my answer.
Speaker 2: What I have ug boots?
Speaker 1: I have can you imagine those things coming to my size.
Speaker 1: You'd kill like ten sheep just really all fit. You
Speaker 1: know the amount of wool inside of them. True, you
Speaker 1: know I actually shave tin sheep.
Speaker 3: You don't actually kill them back to like I believe
Speaker 3: about like cows Hods states, yeah, oh, it just gets ruthless.
Speaker 3: But we'll get into the first man. We're going to
Speaker 3: do sport.
Speaker 1: Obviously, everyone loves the sport on this side of it,
Speaker 1: and I want to go in through some stuff because
Speaker 1: the AFL season is somewhat dying. We'll finish it with
Speaker 1: AFL at the end of this, but I want to
Speaker 1: go through some so awkward kind of things that happen
Speaker 1: in sport and things that really is one thing happening recently.
Speaker 3: I really got my head. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not the greatest golfer in the world. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: happy to admit that, but I've been giving some freebies
Speaker 1: over the years, so I have some like new gear,
Speaker 1: and I'm one of those people that walks out on
Speaker 1: the like the trail on the course, and I got
Speaker 1: all the gear.
Speaker 3: No idea is what everyone says. Now, I've got some
Speaker 3: other mates i'll play with.
Speaker 1: Are really good, but they have kind of like trash
Speaker 1: not trash gear, but like not the new bag, not
Speaker 1: the new clubs and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So there's a guy that was playing the other day
Speaker 1: and he's I'm sitting there and I'm in the rough.
Speaker 1: Obviously I don't play too much on the fairways. I
Speaker 1: can't get it there, but I'm in this thick ruff,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like going to have a swing.
Speaker 1: And this guy just like come up to the next
Speaker 1: hole and he kind of looks at me. He goes
Speaker 1: you Mason Cocks and I was like yeah, He's like, ah,
Speaker 1: he just guys stood there and I was like, can
Speaker 1: I help you? Like do you want a photos on?
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? And it's like you off
Speaker 1: at him a photo?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was like he was like, Oh, we're awkwardly having
Speaker 1: this like kind of standoff, you know, wild West style,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't really want to sit
Speaker 1: here and have the swings. You feel people's presence, you
Speaker 1: really do. Someone's looking after you. You got the gallery and
Speaker 1: like everyone's looking. It's like there is pressure one on
Speaker 1: one and it's even worse whenever you're just absolutely dog
Speaker 1: shit at what you do, and that is golf and
Speaker 1: sometimes forty at times. But this guy just sat there
Speaker 1: behind me, and like I just felt him. He's just
Speaker 1: looking at me. He's going to judge every single part
Speaker 1: of my swing. I swung hit the golf ball, maybe
Speaker 1: bring one meter in front.
Speaker 3: And I was just like, what did he be? Curious?
Speaker 2: What did he want?
Speaker 1: So at that point, I know he's seen it, and
Speaker 1: I've turned around, I've kind of give him a look like, mate,
Speaker 1: can you just can you just maybe turn your back?
Speaker 1: You know you're not helping for at least the pressure,
Speaker 1: Go and tee off on the next hole. Do your thing, mate,
Speaker 1: No need to watch this. Yeah, it's embarrassing already. I
Speaker 1: don't need to have someone witnesses with me.
Speaker 2: Is he like a hole behind or whatever?
Speaker 3: He'd be that he's coming back. So I was going down,
Speaker 3: he was coming back.
Speaker 1: So there's like a tea box next to me, because
Speaker 1: I said I'll play on the fairway, I'll hit it
Speaker 1: right next to the te box of the other holes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was in thick ruff.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to really help myself in this situation, but
Speaker 1: thick raff, and it took me about four shots to
Speaker 1: get out of it. So do you know that guy is
Speaker 1: please stop watching just let me have a terrible day golf.
Speaker 1: I probably had a crack at him because I was like,
Speaker 1: so pissed off some just shit at golf. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's my thing. Don't don't watch people and they play golf.
Speaker 1: Do your own things. Stare with your group.
Speaker 2: That happens all the time too. When you're already just
Speaker 2: in a shit mood and then at least that guy
Speaker 2: gave you an excuse. It's like you were probably not
Speaker 2: doing well up until that point, and then it's like
Speaker 2: you can blame the whole day on that blog. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's always those in my head. It's a mental game.
Speaker 2: The guys that are always like you, Mason Cocks. They're
Speaker 2: the ones that it's just like because people in the
Speaker 2: chatter as well, like as I've said on TikToker, like
Speaker 2: does the goat reply and stuff. It's like hit us
Speaker 2: with the question.
Speaker 3: Something rather than just a statement, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Coxy, do you like playing golf? What are you playing
Speaker 2: off or something?
Speaker 1: Don't ask that question because I can't answer that. I
Speaker 1: give up about third hole, Like you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna hit some different clubs have a bit of
Speaker 1: fun today.
Speaker 2: Well, there has been a few of those in our
Speaker 2: DMS where it's like people tell you, like this slice
Speaker 2: of information that you really don't need to know, and
Speaker 2: it'll be like, as an example of like, oh, Mason,
Speaker 2: I always hated you forever, especially because you did that
Speaker 2: against my team in that round in that year. You're
Speaker 2: actually not that bad at Blake. Delete that first part.
Speaker 2: You don't need the first part. Hey, Mason, I always
Speaker 2: thought you were a dick, but you're not as big
Speaker 2: a dick as I thought. Thanks, mate.
Speaker 1: I hate cheers. I appreciate it for judging me without
Speaker 1: knowing that. Ah so good.
Speaker 2: You get so many of them. It's just like, hey,
Speaker 2: I hated you forever because you're just the Richmond Tigers.
Speaker 3: Oh no, the whole Richard supporter group just hates me
Speaker 3: for no reason.
Speaker 2: But then I watched the Howie games and yeah, it's
Speaker 2: bad bloke that.
Speaker 3: To me yesterday.
Speaker 2: Actually thanks, But yeah, I feel like people just don't
Speaker 2: need to say the first part.
Speaker 1: Nah no, just leave it out. Just be a nice guy.
Speaker 1: Don't be like, Eah, that's your dick now, not as
Speaker 1: bad as I thought.
Speaker 2: She could just come in with Like I listened to
Speaker 2: the Howie Games. I really love the episode that was.
Speaker 1: Well, from one little controversy to another, chess the chess
Speaker 1: world has been absolutely turned upside. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever known anything about the chess world, but this week
Speaker 1: has been absolutely insanity. Some of the stuff that's coming
Speaker 1: out of the Professional Chess League, I don't know its
Speaker 1: p PFC, I don't know. We're just gonna make that up.
Speaker 1: But there's been some very big controversies. A nineteen year
Speaker 1: old kid is whooping some ass on some older folk
Speaker 1: and it is not okay.
Speaker 3: They're not happy with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So essentially this guy that's like the best in the world, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's starting to get whooped by like nineteen year
Speaker 2: old kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's a bit of like this guy's like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm not playing this kid anymore because he's cheating.
Speaker 2: He's clearly cheating.
Speaker 1: He just he comes into it and then makes like
Speaker 1: one move and then just leaves the checks. It's a
Speaker 1: online yeah, so he's like walks in and it's like
Speaker 1: literally two like it's this big kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: face off. The two biggest names it's got to beat
Speaker 1: him previously, is going to do it again, And like
Speaker 1: he walks in does one movie, says peace, I'm out, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Just leaves the chat.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, yo, he went in and knew straightaway that
Speaker 2: he was what I guess, cheating.
Speaker 3: There's claims he is now the chess world is now.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The chess authorities that go out and do these kind
Speaker 1: of things have now looked into it. So there's no
Speaker 1: way of telling. Because there's been some wild accusations Brandon,
Speaker 1: some wild accusations of some beads and some back end
Speaker 1: of people's you know, anatomy and then the bomb and
Speaker 1: all that kind of start buzzing to say there's like
Speaker 1: a big move on the board, better look out for it,
Speaker 1: you know, and like the little hints like that that
Speaker 1: people have been saying. I don't know, man, is some
Speaker 1: wild stuff out there that there's being accusations, accusations towards
Speaker 1: this fella.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's you wonder how you can cheat in chess,
Speaker 2: and it would be too easy and obvious to think,
Speaker 2: you know, like a little ear like implant.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the back end beads, as.
Speaker 1: We'll call them vibrating anal beads. Let's just go out there,
Speaker 1: let's just let's not out there. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's what it's been told. I don't know, there's you
Speaker 1: know the PFC. I think PFC, we're making that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah professional uh yeah, where that came from?
Speaker 3: Chess like PCL, Yeah, the PCL, PCL.
Speaker 1: I actually can't like that. The PCL. Now they've come
Speaker 1: back and said there's I mean, like, how do you
Speaker 1: how do you prove that post it all happening. I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure, but imagine just like.
Speaker 2: The anal beads thing is just if true alleged, it's extravagant,
Speaker 2: it's a genius move because anal beads, and no one's
Speaker 2: going to want to go like, no one's going there. Well,
Speaker 2: every time you play a chess tournament, it's like come on,
Speaker 2: bend over and cough.
Speaker 1: Like it's online, it's not you're doing it in person.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how it works. But to sit
Speaker 1: there and say like it's not the cheating thing is
Speaker 1: also kind of interesting because like it's not necessarily full cheating.
Speaker 1: I feel like because it's like literally just giving someone
Speaker 1: a hint like it is cheating per se, but it's
Speaker 1: not like making the move for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you get to that level, surely it's
Speaker 2: like a buzz and then you take an extra five
Speaker 2: seconds to go like, oh, actually, yeah, I see that
Speaker 2: or whatever. Surely it would be the buzz would be
Speaker 2: like a couple moves ahead too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like when you're three buzzes for like three
Speaker 3: moves ahead.
Speaker 2: Cause they take a second to make a choice and
Speaker 2: they got their clock and do all the timer and stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's I don't know, I feel like that's
Speaker 2: genius level cheating. It kind of reminds me of the
Speaker 2: Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? With the coughs in
Speaker 2: the crowd? What is this?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: You don't know this one? So it's like one of
Speaker 2: the first times someone ever won a million dollars on
Speaker 2: Who Wants to be a Millionaire, and it was like, congratulations,
Speaker 2: all the confetti comes down, you want a million dollars? Anyway,
Speaker 2: a while later they found out that it was essentially
Speaker 2: someone was sitting outside and had a microphone to an
Speaker 2: earpiece in someone's ear in the crowd, and the guy
Speaker 2: would go like so it's like you know, see, yeah,
Speaker 2: what letter does dog start with it? And he'd read
Speaker 2: out the question and go like A A B, B
Speaker 2: C C or D D And when he said the
Speaker 2: right answer, the person in the crowd would cough.
Speaker 3: Surely they would catch on to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like in hindsight it was obvious ass but
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't just like you can't just like
Speaker 1: cut into it and be like no, no, you cheating, like
Speaker 1: you have to go through the full thing.
Speaker 2: But you wouldn't have it had never happened, so it
Speaker 2: was unfathomable. So the first time, is this an Australia Malienaime,
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I think the UK. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so they went back listened to it found like their
Speaker 2: whole plot foiled. It got the million dollars back. Oh God,
Speaker 2: like those cheating things.
Speaker 3: You've gotta be smarter than that, you know.
Speaker 1: It's got to be like a you know, a long
Speaker 1: cough is like sea and then like the short cough
Speaker 1: is out.
Speaker 3: You can't be like, all right, four coughs is d.
Speaker 2: But it was like that's why it was smart in
Speaker 2: the way that it was like he would read the
Speaker 2: mountain when he got to like be He'd be like, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: it's be Hey.
Speaker 3: That was in Australia. Eddie picked that right up.
Speaker 2: He'd pick it up.
Speaker 1: Edie picked that right up. All right, man, we're go
Speaker 1: into the awkward moments next. Tell me about this blood nose.
Speaker 1: You have blood nose during your run?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and blood noses a grass. So I apologize for this.
Speaker 3: Did you just kind of like roll out and just
Speaker 3: like white T shirt everything? Like?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, so I the sun started to come out,
Speaker 2: so I started going for.
Speaker 3: No T shirt, no T shirt. The rig was outfrighted.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's no chance.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So past three days, yeah, jug three days in a row.
Speaker 1: Huge, just getting back in shape, ladies, getting back into
Speaker 1: summer barts.
Speaker 3: Coming around day.
Speaker 2: Three, I've been getting I don't know if it's hay
Speaker 2: fever or if it's like a lingering cold, but I'm
Speaker 2: a bit like yeah, yeah, so I don't do you
Speaker 2: know what a bushman's blow is?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: What is this bushman's blow? This could get really sexual.
Speaker 1: This is just discussing.
Speaker 2: It's when you do the ah, yes, okay, one finger
Speaker 2: on one nostril and blow or he's not out the
Speaker 2: other not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the bushman's blaf.
Speaker 2: So you do that when you're out in the field.
Speaker 2: I doubt you're like tissue tissue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well blow my eyes for you out. But yes, okay, understandable.
Speaker 2: So I was, I was running and I was fully
Speaker 2: my nose was fully blocked, and I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 2: to have to do something about this. I did one nostril,
Speaker 2: went across the other side, did the other nostril, and
Speaker 2: just blood blow too hard. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 2: I did. And then so blood started coming down. I
Speaker 2: was like, it'll stop, Like kept running if someone had
Speaker 2: a seen me. I'm like sprinting, looking like I'm dying
Speaker 2: already because of round like one hundred meters and blood's
Speaker 2: pouring down my face and I'm like tilting my head back.
Speaker 2: And I was lucky enough I had a red running
Speaker 2: shirt on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like so matched it it wasn't as
Speaker 3: obvious as it probably would have been.
Speaker 2: I was wiping it on my shirt so because I
Speaker 2: was conscious that people would be seeing me running down
Speaker 2: the street with a blood nose, So I was wiping
Speaker 2: it off and it just wouldn't stop. So I had
Speaker 2: to stop. My jug and then walk up to a
Speaker 2: petrol station and get like they had paper tail.
Speaker 3: Oh, the ones that like the gas pump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get the paper tail out and shove it up
Speaker 2: there and woah continued on with the jug.
Speaker 3: What we're doing in AFL. I think sometimes I'll put
Speaker 3: a tamp on it there.
Speaker 2: Who at the club? Who do you ask for a tampa?
Speaker 1: There's just one in the medical bag just in case
Speaker 1: someone gets one and they clip off the and then
Speaker 1: like put it out there and show it up and
Speaker 1: it soaks up all the blood it is. Then if
Speaker 1: you if you ever get a blood nose or something
Speaker 1: like that in the game, you find the part of
Speaker 1: your jersey. It's like we're black and white, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll find if we were in black shorts, I'll find
Speaker 1: it exactly. Yeah, I'll find the black bit of it
Speaker 1: and like rub my nose wherever it is. It's bleeding
Speaker 1: on the black bit, so it doesn't show up until
Speaker 1: I get off. There's probably a lot of teams that
Speaker 1: do that because everyone team has like a dark color usually,
Speaker 1: so you can always kind of find that dark color.
Speaker 1: You can kind of like use to be able to
Speaker 1: kind of hide and conceal the blood that you're actually bleeding.
Speaker 2: It's funny that like teams use blood rules to their advantage.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'll be trying to hide them, but the
Speaker 2: other times they'll be like, we need a stoppage, we
Speaker 2: need a rank and play. I got a blood nose,
Speaker 2: Like play stuff the game. I'm bleeding.
Speaker 3: Now. Can you imagine play get the runner out of here?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, imagine some players like just sit there as
Speaker 1: a stoppage.
Speaker 3: You need moment of it, but it just goes bank right,
Speaker 3: the face goes He's now bleeding in the nose.
Speaker 1: We need to stop. On to the next one. Now,
Speaker 1: I was here whenever this happened. Now up in False
Speaker 1: Creak to give a little bit of an intro into
Speaker 1: the story, that False Creak is where we used to
Speaker 1: go for our preseason camps. You know, we go up
Speaker 1: to altitude. We all go and get absolutely like just
Speaker 1: killed at this conditioning camp. It's kind of weak worth
Speaker 1: and it's first or four years and everyone's just exhausted
Speaker 1: by the.
Speaker 3: End of it.
Speaker 1: Now, during this camp, you were doing content for the
Speaker 1: Common Football Club. Yeah, you were up at Falls Creek
Speaker 1: and you're slaving at You're slaving a lot. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: doing a million different things, right, you got the camera.
Speaker 1: You're kind of running with us, you know, and like
Speaker 1: we're all running and doing you know, we're jumping into
Speaker 1: ice cold lakes and you know, doing these push up
Speaker 1: challenges and all this kind of stuff, and you're filming
Speaker 1: all this. Now, at one point, we did this bike race,
Speaker 1: right and you're on this bike. Now, can you tell
Speaker 1: me the rest of the story, because you essentially you
Speaker 1: end up having a very personal issue, physical issue down
Speaker 1: in the undercarriage that you don't want to talk about,
Speaker 1: probably that ended up.
Speaker 3: In hospital for how long a week? A week? Tell
Speaker 3: us this story?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Falls Creek. It was like six am in the
Speaker 2: morning or whatever, boxing to the sunrise, and I was
Speaker 2: getting all my shots. Anyway, everyone took off and I
Speaker 2: had to pack up all the gear. So I packed
Speaker 2: up all the gear, rounded it all up, and I'm
Speaker 2: like on this bike trying to get all the gear
Speaker 2: back down to the clubhouse. I'm not pedaling at all.
Speaker 2: Go down this hill and I just kept gaining momentum
Speaker 2: and by then so there's a big sweeping bend coming
Speaker 2: up and I somehow got this confidence on bike. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these mountain bikes I used to ride a bit back
Speaker 2: in the day. The day before this happened, I went
Speaker 2: off this massive jump, like blind confidence. No you shouldn't,
Speaker 2: I'm not you know this like X Games champion, I
Speaker 2: like land and I jumped so high that when I landed,
Speaker 2: the back tire exploded, burst just popped, and I like
Speaker 2: flipped into this bush. But my experience there were like
Speaker 2: the bush that I landed in was like this real
Speaker 2: fluffy bush and I just stood straight up. Not a scratch,
Speaker 2: not a cart, not a bruise, and I was like,
Speaker 2: see it. That was great my managers. Anyway, the next day,
Speaker 2: I still have this confidence because I didn't get hurt
Speaker 2: enough the day before. Evidently you had in the hard way.
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard, yeah, exactly what you just said. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm cruising down towards cruising, I'm humming umming down towards
Speaker 2: this like bend, and I'm like trying to grab the brakes,
Speaker 2: but I don't really have, you know, the hands to
Speaker 2: do it because I'm holding all the yea and anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just gonna have to take this bend
Speaker 2: at like a million mile an hour. Anyway, I start
Speaker 2: to turn, and I can't turn. Like the momentum of
Speaker 2: the bike, I would have been doing like eighty ks
Speaker 2: and hill.
Speaker 3: Eighty k Cameron and everything in your lap just Hammon
Speaker 3: down the mountain.
Speaker 2: I was harming. I was going ridiculously quick, probably like sixty,
Speaker 2: but it felt like a sixty ks hour. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: reckon if I was next to a car.
Speaker 3: Was it gravel or was this like a.
Speaker 2: Full full paved bitch anyway, couldn't. I just kept going
Speaker 2: straight and alls. I could see there's like this table drain,
Speaker 2: which isn't great already, but then there's just this one
Speaker 2: like massive, like older. It's sitting in the table drain,
Speaker 2: and I'm just humming straight for it. Couldn't do a
Speaker 2: damn thing. So I'm going sixty, let's say sixty, and
Speaker 2: I just the front tier hits this boulder and I
Speaker 2: just go from sixty to zero and the stem of
Speaker 2: the handlebars hits me right in like the hips, like
Speaker 2: the pelvis, so like drills me in the pelvis, and
Speaker 2: I just, for like a while, I just stood there,
Speaker 2: hunched over, hands on knees, just taking it all in,
Speaker 2: absorbing what happened. I'm still conscious. I'm still alive going
Speaker 2: through the checklist. Okay, I can stand. There's a fair
Speaker 2: bit of pain in my like hit yeah, but nothing
Speaker 2: felt broken. I was like, Okay, this is so embarrassing.
Speaker 3: And people saw you do this.
Speaker 2: No one saw me so completely won out by myself
Speaker 2: out there in the wilderness with all these kids creak.
Speaker 2: So I like get on the bike. Survived. I don't
Speaker 2: know how it's avived, but I like, I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is so embarrassing. I need to get out of here
Speaker 2: and reassess somewhere else. So I like start rolling down
Speaker 2: the hill with the gear and stuff, and like the
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hill, I just kind of
Speaker 2: roll off to the side and like go behind these
Speaker 2: bushes and I'm just standing there for a while, just
Speaker 2: like soaking it all in recover.
Speaker 3: So you still like kind of like breathing, like like
Speaker 3: your wind's been knocked out.
Speaker 2: Yet Oh yeah, every like the soul left my body.
Speaker 3: The soul left your body at sixty k's an hour
Speaker 3: into the rock.
Speaker 2: So then I breathe it out, get back on the bike,
Speaker 2: ride slowly back to the clubhouse. Yeah, everyone's like eating
Speaker 2: breakfast and the like, come on, we're going to the
Speaker 2: next station. I'm like, no, fucking who needs food to
Speaker 2: recover or anything.
Speaker 3: No one's known, No one even knows that you're in
Speaker 3: an accient yet.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to hide it, play it off like
Speaker 2: nothing happened. So I'm like, yeah, beauty, let's let's go.
Speaker 2: Fellas off to the next place. Work for like another
Speaker 2: ten hours or something. Come home at night time. I've
Speaker 2: been wearing these like compression skins because I felt like
Speaker 2: an athlete or something up in the up in the hills. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 2: get in the shower and I see there's an issue.
Speaker 2: I've got like this cut. It's like right on the
Speaker 2: point of like mate, just to the side of my
Speaker 2: pelvis yea, and the like there's a big When I
Speaker 2: take off like the compression gear, there's like this big
Speaker 2: like pocket of like blood, and I like push on it.
Speaker 3: And in your like in your like Abomaria. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like the compression pants have like kept
Speaker 2: it into this without getting too graphic. I push on
Speaker 2: it and some blood, more blood comes out of this hole.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, this is bad. This is It just
Speaker 2: kept coming and I was like, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: see someone, so when I saw the club doctor showed him.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh, this isn't great, but filled me
Speaker 2: with optimism. He's like, well, we'll go get it checked out.
Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll be back like within an hour
Speaker 2: or two.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we it's like nighttime. The road from Falls Creek
Speaker 2: to Aubrey is just windy as like snake of a road.
Speaker 2: So I'm getting like and I'm like starting to get
Speaker 2: a bit woozy. And he's like, okay, maybe not as
Speaker 2: good as we thought, Like get to Aubrey hospital. I'm
Speaker 2: like borderline like stumble into this hospital, getting a bit
Speaker 2: woozy by this point, and it and cluggers the dark.
Speaker 2: We go up to the front counter. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we probably need to get seen pretty quick because he's struggling,
Speaker 2: not looking good. Like we only into this room. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting on the bed, like take your full pants off.
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there naked on this thing with like
Speaker 2: this big sack of blood and the other big set and.
Speaker 3: The way you just like gave me the eyebrow.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, anyway of course this would happen, right, So
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there naked and like, yeah, things aren't looking great.
Speaker 3: Your finest moment.
Speaker 2: The two like hottest nurses all the time walk in,
Speaker 2: so I'm like, there's I'm fully vulnerable. I got nothing,
Speaker 2: so I'm making jokes about it.
Speaker 3: They didn't give you like a towel or anything like covering,
Speaker 3: just full spreading.
Speaker 2: Just out there.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, they're like yeah, the nurses come in and stuff,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, They're like, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to wheel you straight into surgery, like straight into surgery,
Speaker 2: straight into surgery, like this is a bigger deal than
Speaker 2: you think. Like you I like hit an artery and
Speaker 2: they're like, you're bleeding like pretty severely internally. And I
Speaker 2: was like pretty doped up by then. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: just at a couple of inches. While we're in there
Speaker 2: and all these all these jokes wheeling me in there,
Speaker 2: I'm telling jokes why I'm going under pass out. I
Speaker 2: wake up and there's like four or five people looking
Speaker 2: over me and they're like, oh, I think fuck, Like
Speaker 2: we can finally go home because it was like three
Speaker 2: in the morning, okay, and yeah, So they wheeled me
Speaker 2: into the first room that had a space, which was
Speaker 2: it's like this old folk ward, and it was like
Speaker 2: full of Alzheimer's patients. So I'm like in this foreign
Speaker 2: place in the middle of nowhere, just being out of surgery,
Speaker 2: and there's all these elderly Alzheimer's patients in the background
Speaker 2: screaming where am I? Where am I? I was like,
Speaker 2: this is great. This is the best work trip I've
Speaker 2: ever been on. But yeah, so it wasn't. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: blood flowed down again without getting too graphic, but not
Speaker 2: far below your hips, your pelvis, your hanging through is
Speaker 2: the rest of it. And so it filled.
Speaker 3: Up Oh no, well okay, so that's all connected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, it filled up that. So it looked
Speaker 2: like I just had the biggest Cajonis of all anyway.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they had to drain all that and and
Speaker 2: stitch up my my bag cut. Yeah, the vessel, the artery,
Speaker 2: the artery. Yeah, and yeah. Then I spent seven days
Speaker 2: just sitting.
Speaker 3: In Alzheimer's reward.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was my bike crash story.
Speaker 1: Jesus filling your whole the whole thing up with blood.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would just and you would yeah, like
Speaker 1: you said, like you you're probably embarrassed by in the
Speaker 1: first place, so you don't want to say anything, and
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, it's like quite serious and
Speaker 1: you're going, I'm gonna have to do something about this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to reveal the story.
Speaker 2: I have a bit of history of that too. There
Speaker 2: was one where we played a soccer match, indoor soccer match,
Speaker 2: and I pushed Bucks over while I was doing up
Speaker 2: his shoes. Good idea dumbest, so dumb, and then yeah,
Speaker 2: I fancied myself as a bit of an indoor soccer players.
Speaker 1: Were most of the injuries from the Colling football come
Speaker 1: on the sprong floor playing indoor soccer with the coaches.
Speaker 2: It's been broken arms, acls, hamstring squads.
Speaker 1: They started back up this year and there's like three
Speaker 1: boys walking around after day one and I was like,
Speaker 1: what'd you do?
Speaker 3: Quad? Yeah, I'm like, did you start playing the indoor soccer? Yep?
Speaker 2: And yeah. So I was running down like the wing
Speaker 2: with the ball and I could just feel like something
Speaker 2: in my peripherals and Bucks just like hip and shouldered
Speaker 2: me into this curtain and I stood on like the
Speaker 2: pole that weighs the curtain down and like blew out
Speaker 2: my ankle.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to show weakness in front of like
Speaker 2: all these like elite x AFL like x AFL players. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I just kept it under wraps and then we
Speaker 2: went out for dinner and it had swollen to the
Speaker 2: size of the football.
Speaker 3: But you didn't after it was done, you didn't go
Speaker 3: to the doctor back, Oh there's something that going on.
Speaker 2: Nothing. I was like, I just walked this off and
Speaker 2: then it was in so much like I couldn't step
Speaker 2: on it or anything. And why didn't you just tell us?
Speaker 2: Because they found out eventually when I just yeah, of
Speaker 2: course home from the restaurant and they strapped it up
Speaker 2: and did all that stuff and looked after you looked
Speaker 2: after me. So that's yeah, what's what's the learning moment
Speaker 2: of that? We'll tell people that you got an injury.
Speaker 3: Now, it's don't pushbucks over always can't I shoe?
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he walked ou into that one. Oh right, last one,
Speaker 3: last one. We might have come with this this week.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden old sleepy Joe, my boy, sleepy Joe. He
Speaker 3: had a bit of a mishap.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't think this could get even more embarrassing
Speaker 1: from his standpoint, Like this is a man who obviously
Speaker 1: is told a lot. He's told, Hey, we'll show up
Speaker 1: to this place. We're doing this, say this, say these
Speaker 1: people's names. Make sure you hit these bullet points. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll get out of here and everyone will be happy.
Speaker 1: He's a man that is literally probably just run by
Speaker 1: his people around him telling him what to do and
Speaker 1: when to be places and what to say. And this
Speaker 1: week he went on to this White House event, right,
Speaker 1: and he goes up and he's doing his big speech,
Speaker 1: and there's a lady that's organized these things for the
Speaker 1: past few years, right, her name's Jackie and Biden up
Speaker 1: there he goes, oh, man, man, thanks so much. You know,
Speaker 1: everyone's so great to see everyone such and such. Just
Speaker 1: want special mention to Jackie. I know, is she out
Speaker 1: there where you're at, Jackie? He's looking around for Jackie now. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: and God rest as soult Jackie passed away in a
Speaker 1: car crash a month earlier.
Speaker 2: That's not funny.
Speaker 3: It's not funny.
Speaker 1: And Joe Biden was not up to date on this
Speaker 1: so this so then he's awkwardly sitting there and everyone
Speaker 1: in the room is aware of this, Like everyone in
Speaker 1: the room knows that this has happened. He's gone and
Speaker 1: just gone silent for three or four seconds, trying to
Speaker 1: look for and I'm sure the pr people potus are
Speaker 1: going stop, don't move on, move on, need to get
Speaker 1: to the next thing. But it's all recorded, as things
Speaker 1: are in these days, right, And he sat there awkwardly,
Speaker 1: And I don't think there could be a worse moment
Speaker 1: in your life of going I'm an absolute prick for
Speaker 1: bringing this up and just totally ignorance, thrown under the rock.
Speaker 3: Just embarrassing moment when on one you can't even back
Speaker 3: out of them. No, it's recorded, man, your potus. You're
Speaker 3: literally the president of the United States. There's no way
Speaker 3: this is not going to make TikTok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you weren't briefed on that, well someone's getting
Speaker 2: absolutely starched. And if you were briefed on it, I
Speaker 2: don't even know what you do.
Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, we'll go into the first one.
Speaker 1: That mad Monday. Now you haven't we had wacky Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Now we haven't really caught up since it's too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Wacky Wednesday was a bit of a big day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually had a sixteen hours straight of being out. Really,
Speaker 1: that's a big deal for me. Yeah, I saw the
Speaker 1: sun come up the next day.
Speaker 2: That's massive.
Speaker 3: It was a huge night for me. I will tell
Speaker 3: you the place we ended up, Branton. It wasn't it
Speaker 3: wasn't my highlight of my life. I will say that
Speaker 3: my brother wanted to experience some of the depths of
Speaker 3: Melbourne and some of the well known institutions we say
Speaker 3: of Melbourne. We didn't spend very long there, but it
Speaker 3: was a little pop in, pop out, go home. Realized
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done that, and then move on.
Speaker 2: So well, no photos have come out yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly if anyone did see me, though, I do
Speaker 3: have a photo I can, I can maybe shure I'll
Speaker 3: show you later. But yeah, I was. I was the
Speaker 3: hoodie on yeah glasses hat.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you would have fit in. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: went where I think you went. Yeah, let's say no
Speaker 2: one really knew me.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody was probably even capable, probably you know,
Speaker 3: saying the ABC's at that point at night.
Speaker 1: But it was good fun. It was good fun to
Speaker 1: show the probably around, showing one of the steples I
Speaker 1: had never been to my life. I plan on never
Speaker 1: going back, so anyway, but I digress.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you bring up Mad Monday, because we
Speaker 2: did have a Mad Monday story sent in from a
Speaker 2: listener and it's all time. It's all time. It goes
Speaker 2: in instantly Hall of Famer. But yeah, without further ado,
Speaker 2: let's just jump straight into it, all.
Speaker 4: Right, It's not my Mad Monday, but my boyfriend at
Speaker 4: the time, his team, the Agrators, had won the Grand
Speaker 4: Final on the Monday. They had dressed up as sailors
Speaker 4: or whatever reason. Dropped him off at the club at
Speaker 4: nine am, and then they were supposed to be going
Speaker 4: on a bit of a pub crawl. It wasn't going
Speaker 4: to have a big one because he had worked the
Speaker 4: next day anyway, dropped him off at nine am, heard
Speaker 4: from him at six thirty that the year was on
Speaker 4: a ferry. They had gotten a bus about an hour
Speaker 4: hour and a half too the Brisbane airport and then
Speaker 4: got a plane to Townsville and we're then on a
Speaker 4: ferry going over to Magnetic Island, where one of our
Speaker 4: friends had a charter company, and they decided they want
Speaker 4: to go nighttime fishing. They were all so pissed by
Speaker 4: the time they got onto the ferry that they then
Speaker 4: couldn't go fishing. There was then a big storm the
Speaker 4: next day, stranding them on the island because all the
Speaker 4: fairies were cut and they ended up having to stay
Speaker 4: on Magnetic Island for another two days and got home
Speaker 4: on the Thursday. It was the last big mad Monday
Speaker 4: they had. It was a lot of pissed off wives
Speaker 4: and bosses.
Speaker 3: Say, how do you explain that to the boss? Oh? Sorry, mate,
Speaker 3: decided to have one of the biggest math minds. I love.
Speaker 1: I must say, I love the commitment to book a
Speaker 1: flight for a mad Monday, like proper took a bus
Speaker 1: without knowing to an airport to go to a place
Speaker 1: of unknown location to essentially try to go fishing. And
Speaker 1: then the whole thing just flips on its head and
Speaker 1: then the storm comes in says now, boys, we're going
Speaker 1: to spend two three days here.
Speaker 2: And that's what so it started off. Is not going
Speaker 2: to have a big one, going.
Speaker 3: To have a couple.
Speaker 1: But that's what you always you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: every person always tells. The message goes, don't worry, it's
Speaker 1: not It's going to be a pretty low key night.
Speaker 1: We're only going to have a few. Now, if you know,
Speaker 1: most males in this world, a few means entirely too many. Now,
Speaker 1: if you said, like I'm driving and like I'm not
Speaker 1: going to drink any understandable now. A few is your
Speaker 1: way of saying, like, honey, I need permission to leave
Speaker 1: the house, and I know you're not going to be
Speaker 1: happy with him when we get back, but I want
Speaker 1: to let you know that there is a possibility this
Speaker 1: might turn into a bit of a lit night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I a couple's definitely more than a few,
Speaker 2: and a few is just like you're already planned to
Speaker 2: get written off. Yeah, so yeah, so yeah, to leave
Speaker 2: on a flight, catch multiple fairies out to an island,
Speaker 2: and then you get stuck there. So it was a
Speaker 2: mad Monday turned into a Thursday. So that's a few days.
Speaker 1: I had Mad Monday. He had to kill it, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Wacky Wednesday, and Thursday Thursday all.
Speaker 3: Within one week. It was a great little week for
Speaker 3: the club.
Speaker 2: I like that. And then yeah, so I don't know
Speaker 2: how you explain it to the wives end bosses, but jeez,
Speaker 2: that's rough.
Speaker 3: That's rough.
Speaker 1: But I mean do you sit there on like, let's
Speaker 1: say you get to Tuesday or Wednesday, do you just
Speaker 1: kind of go, well, you know, I might as well
Speaker 1: enjoy myself here because I can't really do anything else
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You have to. So the boys would
Speaker 2: have been like flat the next day, bit hungover, Yeah,
Speaker 2: going like jah, we stuffed this up.
Speaker 3: But then well we organizers probably guy copet it too.
Speaker 2: We're here, we may as well make the most of it.
Speaker 2: When can we get back not till Thursday? We got
Speaker 2: at least Tuesday, bit hungover Wednesday, make sure we're ready
Speaker 2: to make.
Speaker 3: Sure that Thursday you've got the opportunity to get on
Speaker 3: that boat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know. That was probably one of
Speaker 2: the all time mad Mondays. But my thought out of
Speaker 2: that a question to the audience, Yeah, when has you
Speaker 2: know a couple of drinks turned into something bigger? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like you go out, you planing on just having a couple,
Speaker 2: and you wake up in a different state on an isle.
Speaker 1: Like there's got to be someone who's booked the next
Speaker 1: flight out, babe, and we're gonna go and it's just
Speaker 1: turned absolutely dreadful.
Speaker 2: Get you wake up in Balley. Yeah, that's one from
Speaker 2: us a time that it turned into something bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I like that. There's gonna be a few
Speaker 1: good ones working on that. Send them through.
Speaker 3: Sure, there's gonna be I reckon, we'll have twenty on
Speaker 3: the pod. They're just gonna be absolutely gold mines.
Speaker 2: All right, kick us off into what do we.
Speaker 1: Got the next thing? Yes, everyone loves it. Everyone loves
Speaker 1: the entertainment section. Why because neither one of us are
Speaker 1: very good at this and were just trying to pop
Speaker 1: it up to be something way bigger it is and
Speaker 1: it's something that everyone can talk about on the water
Speaker 1: cooler at work the next day.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so big week, big week this week. I know
Speaker 1: you've been all about it, Brandon. Yeah, Paris Fashion Week,
Speaker 1: I know, crazy, biggest week of the year for you.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't believe me, and I know you
Speaker 1: would have seen this because this was big news now, Bella.
Speaker 3: Indeed, I think I'm saying, all right, I did I did?
Speaker 3: I did? I did I do?
Speaker 1: She ended up going out, right, So she's come into
Speaker 1: this runway and it's this big oh gasp.
Speaker 3: I know who she is. She's some influencer. I think
Speaker 3: her model. She's a model.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoo, that would make sense. Yeah, being on the runway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. She comes out and she's like essentially
Speaker 1: in like nude underwear is I think what it's called
Speaker 1: maybe the Kim Kardashian Is thing.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, we're just gonna go with that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're telling the story. Yeah, I'm telling the story. Anyway.
Speaker 3: So then these people come out with these spray things,
Speaker 3: like you know, like you're spray painting the side of
Speaker 3: the house or like spray painting like a yeah, like paint,
Speaker 3: like spray paint, like spray paint, and they essentially starts
Speaker 3: spraying her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, this is weird. Everyone's gone, what's going on in here?
Speaker 3: The police, something's happening.
Speaker 1: But it's not like paint, Like it's this like kind
Speaker 1: of cotton synthetic thing, right right. They paint her and
Speaker 1: they do this whole kind of like three sixt year
Speaker 1: round this blah blah blah. And then this girl comes
Speaker 1: out in this lady and then she like kind of
Speaker 1: does these two things and cuts a little bit of
Speaker 1: the paint and the paints solidified into a dress.
Speaker 2: So they sprayed address on her.
Speaker 1: Essentially, they created a dress on the runway brain and
Speaker 1: this has never been done before. This is big news.
Speaker 1: And obviously you've got one of the biggest models in
Speaker 1: the world. And it was beautiful, absolutely beautiful. The dress
Speaker 1: was good, actually was pretty good. Yeah, I was a
Speaker 1: little way. I'll love when Ember people do something different, right,
Speaker 1: and this is big for the Paris Fashion Week because
Speaker 1: we were very fashionable people, right as you can all
Speaker 1: see the glasses, that's all we got going for us.
Speaker 1: But no, that was a big deal and I think
Speaker 1: everyone should know that. So if you do see a
Speaker 1: female work tomorrow, ask you to go day Paris Fashion Week.
Speaker 1: Do you see that little dress that the little hooded
Speaker 1: was wearing show?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I can't believe you know about that,
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And they'll be like, you know, it's my little in
Speaker 1: It comes a little in, a little end to the people.
Speaker 1: I might be into fashion at work, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is practical. It is very fun to
Speaker 2: go out and you're like, I forgot to wear clothes again.
Speaker 3: That just spread because it's like a spray tamp place
Speaker 3: and just.
Speaker 2: Like sort it out, just duck in, stump down in
Speaker 2: a little Yeah, no need I need to rent, you know,
Speaker 2: outfits anymore.
Speaker 3: You just go to the local place spray on cold good.
Speaker 3: It looked really good. I have credit to her.
Speaker 2: I think it just has to look good enough if
Speaker 2: it's practical, Like if you forgot to wear a shirt outside, yeah,
Speaker 2: or you just didn't wear a shirt because you cocky
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then you go to a pub and
Speaker 2: they're like, mate, no shoes, no shirt, no service. You
Speaker 2: just go wow, mate, and then whip out your can
Speaker 2: of shirt and just spray it on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that would actually work.
Speaker 2: Don't think about that.
Speaker 3: Do you think about that problem solved? Anyway?
Speaker 1: That was faris fashion work. Everyone obviously knows, massive, massive week.
Speaker 2: Now the other tangle of it of like conversation starters,
Speaker 2: because you clearly you do a little bit of research,
Speaker 2: but it's not we skim in there. Well, I'm not
Speaker 2: conversation started.
Speaker 3: It's a conversation starter. It's a water cooler chat.
Speaker 2: We're just helping you start it exactly.
Speaker 3: And then you let them go on the whole you
Speaker 3: know details, and they tell you the rast and you
Speaker 3: just you're the spark to the fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Essentially, you can tell the little joke about the
Speaker 2: spray on shirt. You can you can keep that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can keep that. Just copy your right bread cocks.
Speaker 2: This one is the biggest one since the Chess fiesco
Speaker 2: we touched on the Chess.
Speaker 3: This crazy times.
Speaker 2: Ohio fishermen nearly get a beat down after stuffing their
Speaker 2: fish with eight pounds of sinkers at Lake Erie fishing tournament.
Speaker 3: Lake Erie.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of ways to win. It's like length
Speaker 2: and girth, which you know all about, and there's weight.
Speaker 2: So let me break it on down. I'll give you
Speaker 2: a bit of a brief synopsis before diving in. So
Speaker 2: there's two guys. They team up in pairs of two,
Speaker 2: and there's fishing tournaments, pro fishing tournaments all around Australia.
Speaker 2: So you know, these these guys enter these fishing tournaments
Speaker 2: and they've been winning and there's big money in these
Speaker 2: fishing tournaments. So in this one that they got caught
Speaker 2: cheating in it was forty five grand wow for the winner. Anyway,
Speaker 2: let me now jump into the story. So a couple
Speaker 2: of fishermen have been accused of cheating by making their
Speaker 2: catches seem heavier than they were. They stuffed their fish
Speaker 2: with eight pounds of lead eggs, so they're in the
Speaker 2: shape of an egg but it's just lead and they
Speaker 2: were caught doing it there's also slices of fish filets
Speaker 2: in there, so they stuffed them with these eggs and
Speaker 2: then stuffed them with fish filets. Kind at all. They
Speaker 2: were escorted away from the tournament by police and they'll
Speaker 2: most likely be charged with fraud and possibly other charges.
Speaker 2: So one of these guys across his career, just to
Speaker 2: give you an idea of what these guys are earning,
Speaker 2: one of these guys over the course of his career
Speaker 2: had earned around three million dollars.
Speaker 3: Three million dollars.
Speaker 2: So, like they've won, you know, boats and trailer packages
Speaker 2: and so you win all kinds.
Speaker 3: Of stuff including outsights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get like, you know, if you've got
Speaker 2: the heaviest fish, you get like a little five k bonus,
Speaker 2: and then there's the overall leaderboard and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: But these guys won a tournament back in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: and so people are going like, well, how far back
Speaker 2: does this go that were doing this? This is only
Speaker 2: really just started. And to give you an idea of,
Speaker 2: you know, how serious everyone was taking this. This is
Speaker 2: just a little snippet of an angry mob that formed.
Speaker 3: Oh I can only imagine the Burgans that were here
Speaker 3: at this fishing termament.
Speaker 2: All these pro fishers are like, is this in Australia,
Speaker 2: This is in the in Ohio, Ohio. So there's guns involved. Well,
Speaker 2: these guys are like they've essentially robbed all these other fishermen,
Speaker 2: fishermen that have also traveled around to these tournaments. So
Speaker 2: here's a little grab of these these angry fishermen. So
Speaker 2: they're aggressive. They're aggressive.
Speaker 3: You talk about angry mob, that is angry mob mentality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the light part of it.
Speaker 3: That's the light as people being four f bombs ten
Speaker 3: second claim.
Speaker 2: People essentially threatening to off them at this tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I understand why the police ascored.
Speaker 2: Plice ha'scorded amount of there pretty pretty quick. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so an idea first place at this tournament that they
Speaker 2: were caught cheating in is apparently forty five grand if
Speaker 2: you win. Ye. But yeah, he's made a lot of
Speaker 2: money over the course of his career, so now he'll be,
Speaker 2: you know, go up for fraud chargers and all of that.
Speaker 2: So it's watch this space on the Ohio Pro Fishing League.
Speaker 3: The PFL. I it up, not the PC, the PFL,
Speaker 3: not the.
Speaker 2: Piece couse with the PC. I don't know which everyone
Speaker 2: knows is the professional.
Speaker 3: Back to the audio clup again, what's what is my mentality?
Speaker 3: Sound like?
Speaker 2: Sounds like the biggest stone, like cheers, You've sucked over
Speaker 2: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Man, a man, it's not cool. It's not cool. Man.
Speaker 2: So this one is interesting because I feel like there's
Speaker 2: a there's a little spot in the market that we
Speaker 2: could do something here. We've talked about tailgating huge Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like as the podcast evolves, this is something
Speaker 2: that could evolve with it is creating tailgating in Australia
Speaker 2: before games yep. So make it a thing that we
Speaker 2: have to partner up with, you know, an events company
Speaker 2: or you know, a brand to get it off the ground,
Speaker 2: whether we do it at the MCG parking lot or
Speaker 2: we do it nearby tailgating before you know, Collingwood Games
Speaker 2: or whatever. Head down, you know, have a couple of beers,
Speaker 2: have some food, a bit of brisket or whatever. Watch
Speaker 2: the start of the game there maybe you know, wander
Speaker 2: over to the stadium when it starts.
Speaker 1: I can't think we should do this for the tennis yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you got all the matches going on right we.
Speaker 2: Have to compete with the massive outdoor event that they
Speaker 2: already have. I was, we don't have to compete with
Speaker 2: anyone because no one's doing it.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: So this is a Florida headline tailgates strip club. Now
Speaker 2: stick with me. Miami Dolphins selling the Miami Dolphins fan
Speaker 2: sparks controversy by setting up a makeshift strip club in
Speaker 2: the parking lot ahead of the game. So there's video
Speaker 2: that's come out of strippers dancing in this makeshift strip
Speaker 2: club outside a hard rock stadium, music blaring in the background.
Speaker 2: Fans can be seen throwing money money and enjoying the
Speaker 2: company of the dancers as they live life to the fullest.
Speaker 2: And this hasn't no one really investigated, no one's been
Speaker 2: in trouble. It's just all part of the show. So
Speaker 2: they're wondering if it's going to return. So now all
Speaker 2: eyes are on the parking lot for the next Miami
Speaker 2: Dolphins game. The next one's away, then there's the home game,
Speaker 2: so they're wondering if it's going to return.
Speaker 1: See, whenever you're trying to sell tailigating to Australians, if
Speaker 1: you just started with that, if you just literally started
Speaker 1: tailgate strip club, I reckon a lot of people go,
Speaker 1: I'm actually on board with this.
Speaker 3: I actually think this is a great idea. Brighton.
Speaker 1: I think you'd have some really discussing men going up. Nope,
Speaker 1: you've got something, You've got something here. We should rarely
Speaker 1: run with this.
Speaker 2: Because they have that pub across the road from the
Speaker 2: g On, across from Richmond's. Yeah, yeah, that does something similar, the.
Speaker 1: Topless Bar, yeah, which I find amazing that still exists.
Speaker 3: There was a brothel around there at one point. I
Speaker 3: came to this country and that someone told me brothels
Speaker 3: was legal, and I was like, sorry, what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a thing still it. I think they've died out.
Speaker 2: I don't know. None of the ones.
Speaker 3: Shut down.
Speaker 2: No, no, not too Sue. All right, that's it for me,
Speaker 2: jumping out of that straight into dating. What do you
Speaker 2: go for us? You got anything for us?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: My da life might just carrying the team.
Speaker 3: You're carrying it heavy.
Speaker 2: Well, we do have a brutal bad date. Oh love that.
Speaker 2: So this is only the best voicemails make it on.
Speaker 2: But we love the voicemails. They make the podcast. We
Speaker 2: just talk in between voicemails. Really, so this is a
Speaker 2: bad date from one of our listeners.
Speaker 5: This happened when I just turned eighteen, just finished your
Speaker 5: twelve exams, just got my license, very excited. This good
Speaker 5: looking guy messages me and he asked me on a date.
Speaker 5: We're in a couple of mutual circles. I was like,
Speaker 5: well why not. So he gave me a dress and
Speaker 5: asked me to pick him up at twelve thirty because
Speaker 5: he didn't have his license, which should have been a
Speaker 5: red flag at the beginning.
Speaker 2: So I show up.
Speaker 3: He lived about an hour away.
Speaker 5: I knock on the front door and this Oldish guy
Speaker 5: like answers the door and I'm like, oh, you're old
Speaker 5: enough to be my dad.
Speaker 2: You're not the guy that I'm going on a date with.
Speaker 5: And he goes, oh, he's in bed asleep still, do
Speaker 5: you want to come in?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, no worries. I was expecting,
Speaker 2: you know, a mom or a dad to be there
Speaker 2: as well, but no.
Speaker 5: The entire extended family was sitting in the living room.
Speaker 5: So everyone sitting something called Shiva, which is like a
Speaker 5: morning period for Jewish people following the death of a
Speaker 5: loved one. So I'm sitting in the living room of
Speaker 5: his late grandmother with a family of a man that
Speaker 5: I've never met. Finally, he comes out of his bedroom.
Speaker 5: He goes, oh, would you like to go to this place?
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, no worries. He orders a ten
Speaker 5: dollar milkshake with it, which is a joke in itself,
Speaker 5: and a big breakfast. I just get a coffee because
Speaker 5: I was like no, this is this is traumatic. And
Speaker 5: then he goes, oh, I haven't brought my wallet. Do
Speaker 5: you mind paying? And I was like I'd really rather not,
Speaker 5: but I feel like this is my only option here.
Speaker 5: So I was like, noa, this is too bad. I've
Speaker 5: got to not be in such a deficit. I'll see
Speaker 5: him one more time and he can pay for dinner
Speaker 5: and then we're done. He told me he loved me
Speaker 5: after the second date. It was just awful.
Speaker 3: That's this. She went on a second date after he
Speaker 3: pulled her into a morning of the family. Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: what so that's I'm like, first of all, there's the
Speaker 3: ten dollars milkshake, right, let's break this down.
Speaker 2: There's the ten dollar milkshake into big breakfast. But before
Speaker 2: we even get to that, he lives an hour away.
Speaker 2: That's already that is that's that's fifty bucks in patrol.
Speaker 2: That's already a big commitment.
Speaker 3: That's commitment right there.
Speaker 2: That's when you're set in your radius. Oh no, hang up,
Speaker 2: it's like yeah five ten max.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the town you're from here?
Speaker 2: Chuker just south, just south of what I let you remember,
Speaker 2: somewhere else, like a little town outside Choker, Rochie, Rochi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's Rochy. Whenever you're in Rochy, you extend.
Speaker 1: The climates are about two hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course there's only like four people in Rounchy.
Speaker 2: You're gonna go on a dam.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: So fifty bucks in patrol probably ten dollar milkshake you
Speaker 1: get there. Dad answers that he lose it. Mom and
Speaker 1: Das I'm assuming it was gramp. Grandpa answers the door. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a girl that does not even on first date, never
Speaker 1: even met the Doude before.
Speaker 2: So as soon as he goes, I's still in bed
Speaker 2: out of left, third red flag Ida left. I know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, that's like, wake do we not?
Speaker 1: Texting him saying like I'm on my way and he's going,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay, how far are you?
Speaker 3: An hour hour? Cos And he goes, oh, sorry, I
Speaker 3: love still in bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't text, then you just headed off.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but there's some more details we need
Speaker 3: to have.
Speaker 2: So then yeah, so she's sitting in the late grandmother's
Speaker 2: living room where he's asleep, and she's sitting there with
Speaker 2: the whole family going through like this, you know, morning process,
Speaker 2: and he didn't think to cancel the date. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: he rolls out and clearly takes advantage with the milkshake,
Speaker 2: ten bucks, big breakfast. That's at least twenty five So
Speaker 2: that's Yeah, you're already in the whole thirty five or
Speaker 2: thirty plus fifty dollars in patrol. Yeah, so already not good,
Speaker 2: and I'm along for the journey up until that point.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. He's a dick, like, shouldn't have even
Speaker 2: gone to Brecky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: You don't go on the second day. No, that's a shocker,
Speaker 2: that's just that's on you. But you take the loss,
Speaker 2: you go. Yep, that's what we're saying, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: fifty to eighty bucks, you take the l you move on, life, lessons,
Speaker 2: you live, and you grow. You go back for seconds.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he must have been really good looking.
Speaker 2: No wonder he said he loved you after the second date.
Speaker 2: If you just you know, paying for everything, for everything,
Speaker 2: help through the parts in his life.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you got a heart of soul love there.
Speaker 3: Just to say you love someone like I love you
Speaker 3: on the second date. You gotta have just a heart
Speaker 3: of gold, hard of gold to just be able to
Speaker 3: want to deal with that and be able to show
Speaker 3: out out.
Speaker 2: That's brutal. The earlier I love you, jeez, oh, that's creamy.
Speaker 3: Right. When would you say I love you? Ever said
Speaker 3: I love you to a girl?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How long?
Speaker 2: Well? Once?
Speaker 3: Once?
Speaker 2: It's pretty scarring, but o.
Speaker 3: How long into the relationship?
Speaker 2: I was so it freaked me out because I'd never
Speaker 2: felt it and I never said it. And then as
Speaker 2: you get into it, you don't know what it feels like,
Speaker 2: so you don't know if you're experiencing it, And then
Speaker 2: you get so far in you're like, I better just
Speaker 2: kind of say it, yes, because I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is if I'm ever going to feel it, if
Speaker 2: I'm feeling it and I just haven't noticed, so then
Speaker 2: you just yeah, say it, and then you might grow
Speaker 2: into it, you might not or whatever. But it's just
Speaker 2: a real life.
Speaker 3: It's a real commitment unless you're.
Speaker 2: Genuinely feeling it, which I know what it feels like
Speaker 2: now so I could identify it. But it's like I
Speaker 2: feel like when you're seeing someone for a period of time,
Speaker 2: you're like, well, I probably just got to say it now.
Speaker 2: You come back with some brutal as like like I
Speaker 2: like you too, I appreciate that or something like that.
Speaker 2: So that and then you're like, now the now the
Speaker 2: clock has started, like there was no real pressure they
Speaker 2: say it. Then the clock starts and you're like, I
Speaker 2: better feel it soon, so you're trying to feel it,
Speaker 2: and then yeah, it's like this for real. So then
Speaker 2: it gets to a point where they're like, come on,
Speaker 2: you got to say it now. So then you're like, say,
Speaker 2: backed into a corner, yeah, and yeah, so yeah it is.
Speaker 2: It is real.
Speaker 3: Weird.
Speaker 2: It is rough. What about you? You can't get out
Speaker 2: of this one.
Speaker 3: Move into the next segment.
Speaker 1: No, I have I have maybe once or twice once
Speaker 1: early early girlfriend back in the US.
Speaker 3: That's what when I said seventeen.
Speaker 2: Years old, I've said it twice, but I meant it once. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: my high school girlfriend. It was like the same, and
Speaker 2: you're like, I love you. You're the best thing that's
Speaker 2: ever happened to me, future wife. But it's like, no,
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 3: A high school girlfriend. I said that too. She moved
Speaker 3: to college, same college and stuff and everything else. And
Speaker 3: then I won't say the details because she might listen
Speaker 3: to this, but yeah, it didn't go so well once
Speaker 3: you got to college. Yeah, yeah, there's other things that
Speaker 3: may be sidetracked and myself, you know, or whatever may be,
Speaker 3: and we went on our separate ways essentially. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: haven't really said it since I think, well.
Speaker 1: I want to ask this because whenever you want a date, right,
Speaker 1: so we've got these bad dating stories and everything else,
Speaker 1: I want to know from the listeners kind of what
Speaker 1: is what is the must haves in a date, you know,
Speaker 1: as a male or female? Right, So let's say from
Speaker 1: the males, because I'm going to think like I would be,
Speaker 1: is you're, you know, must have someone opening the door
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 3: Is that a must have?
Speaker 1: Or is that something you go, I'm a female, I
Speaker 1: can open my own doors, get stuffed. Yeah, it's paying
Speaker 1: for a meal or must I think it's a must.
Speaker 1: But I know I like to say I'll pay for
Speaker 1: the meal. I like them to at least say, hey, no,
Speaker 1: let me help, and then I'd be kind of like that, No,
Speaker 1: I'm stubborn.
Speaker 3: I'm going to pay for this, you know.
Speaker 2: No, I'm a rich athlete. I got this, not a
Speaker 2: rich athlete. I paid for your lunch last time.
Speaker 1: I paid for your grilled of times, mate, don't even
Speaker 1: try to talk about this.
Speaker 2: So we go, We get grilled after the podcast, and
Speaker 2: so you call up and you leave your fake name,
Speaker 2: which is cool. I tell everyone what that is. But
Speaker 2: you call up, Yeah, I'm getting grilled. You're like, what
Speaker 2: do you want? I'll get the same as you. It's
Speaker 2: exactly what I said. I'll get the same as you. Right,
Speaker 2: So Mason, gracious graciously paying for dinner.
Speaker 3: We go.
Speaker 2: We get the meal, which is two.
Speaker 3: Burgers, two chicken burgers, Simon says.
Speaker 2: Chicken nuggets because you're you gotta be, and zucchini chips
Speaker 2: to share. We get back to the car. Here's your burger, Brandon,
Speaker 2: see you later. You're get in the car and piss
Speaker 2: off with the zucchini chips and the nuggets and the burger.
Speaker 2: How is that I'll have the same as you? So
Speaker 2: then I just go inside and eat like this little
Speaker 2: fucking peasant server of burger still that piece of ship.
Speaker 2: You paid for it, what you paid for your own meal.
Speaker 2: I gave you a burger, sling me a bur that's
Speaker 2: on me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 2: You did it on purpose.
Speaker 1: Now you've said it that you've made it, and you've
Speaker 1: said a statement, I won't do it again. All the
Speaker 1: other one I want to ask, does the male or
Speaker 1: female organize and pick the spot to go out and
Speaker 1: the time and place today? Biggest trainer, So because that's
Speaker 1: always that's always kind of an annoying part for me.
Speaker 1: It is like where do you live? What when are
Speaker 1: you free? Where do you what kind of food do you?
Speaker 3: Like, like give me at least direction in the genre
Speaker 3: or like what type of food and also kind of
Speaker 3: a vibe if it's like a you know, a wine
Speaker 3: bar or are we talking like a proper sit down meal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's opening the door thing. I feel like
Speaker 2: kind of backed into a corner with that one, and
Speaker 2: not like don't pity us, but you know, it's a
Speaker 2: real fifty to fifty because you can, like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you hold a door open for anyone, that's fine,
Speaker 2: I don't see that as a big thing. But if
Speaker 2: you like pull a chair out or whatever, it's like, mate,
Speaker 2: I can pull out my own chair, Like I got arms.
Speaker 2: I'm fully capable of pulling out my own chair. Whereas
Speaker 2: like there's some group of people that are like, oh
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah. It's so it's like a real
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. So it's hard to read the play.
Speaker 2: If it's the first date, I lean towards like let
Speaker 2: people do their own basic as stuff. Yeah, okay, when
Speaker 2: it comes to paying for the meal, I automatically just
Speaker 2: do the first date, Like I don't even think about,
Speaker 2: like what the protocol is, I just do it. But
Speaker 2: then it's always good if you kick onto the next
Speaker 2: place they buy the first drink or like something like
Speaker 2: it's we're all in it together, we're all struggling, we're
Speaker 2: all out here battling.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you make it to the next part where
Speaker 3: you say for the drink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something because like if I've been on dates
Speaker 2: with girls that just fully expect and it's not like it's.
Speaker 3: Some an issue, but it's like a thank you or
Speaker 3: like a fake offering is nice.
Speaker 2: There's a difference because it's like being appreciative of someone
Speaker 2: doing it, and then it's like I'm fine with doing it,
Speaker 2: not an issue in the world, But it becomes an
Speaker 2: issue when it's like just fully expected. It's like you're
Speaker 2: getting this yeah, or you're getting I'll have this drink. Thanks,
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, I guess I'm getting it, like that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It just yeah, it's like I'm happy
Speaker 2: to do it, but don't expect it.
Speaker 3: And then just show appreciation, I think is the biggest thing.
Speaker 2: But it's not even like oh my god, thank you
Speaker 2: something like that, not even over appreciation, just oh, thanks
Speaker 2: for paying, thanks for the meal, thanks for dinner, thanks
Speaker 2: for going out tonight, and then organizing and picking the
Speaker 2: spot I hate. But I know it's like that's probably
Speaker 2: appreciated the most out of everything. Yes, if you're like,
Speaker 2: I'll pick a spot between us and I'll find like
Speaker 2: a nice wine bar. Yea cool with something like that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wine bar sounds nice. You've got to check it,
Speaker 2: like they drink's at drinking figure out well they're not.
Speaker 3: They want to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, what's your day, like, reckon, do you want
Speaker 2: to grab something to eat or something like that it's
Speaker 2: massively appreciated. It is a lot of effort. I got
Speaker 2: asked this because I've done this before. Is this kind
Speaker 2: of messed up?
Speaker 1: Now? I usually just because I'm my life's become chaotic, right,
Speaker 1: I usually just go this place this time, meet me here,
Speaker 1: see you then. Yeah, no need to like check in beforehand,
Speaker 1: say I've left, or you know, just still making sure
Speaker 1: where I'm Like if I'm I'm in, I'm in, right.
Speaker 1: I wanna do something now. I've been known to do
Speaker 1: this with a lot of things because my life has
Speaker 1: run off my calendar. I have calendar invite since something
Speaker 1: to someone to say there's a date locked in for us.
Speaker 3: Is that a bit aggressive?
Speaker 2: Like? Is that a bit calendar in.
Speaker 1: The calendar for be like Mason Cox and so and
Speaker 1: so date this place this time, accept the invitation in
Speaker 1: both our calendars. We know that's going to happen. It's
Speaker 1: going to go like it's locked in. Is that acceptable?
Speaker 2: Just to make it feel too formal, That's.
Speaker 3: What I mean. I think it does. But that's like
Speaker 3: that's like me knowing I won't forget now.
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's the same with like the
Speaker 2: opening the door. It's like half the population would like him,
Speaker 2: be like, oh, this guy's organized and forthright and everything,
Speaker 2: and then the other people would be like, oh, is
Speaker 2: this like a business meeting?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like you can't please everyone.
Speaker 3: No, you can't.
Speaker 2: But it's like the people that are happy with that,
Speaker 2: they're your people.
Speaker 3: They're the people's bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Hopefully go to the second day. Yeah, just hopefully, and
Speaker 3: Grandma is not in a bad place.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 3: After the second I love you have to say ad
Speaker 3: date and say, you know what, this might be the one.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's jump straight into the foot Yeah hurt?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: So I haven't seen you since the Grand Final? What
Speaker 2: did you think of the Grand Dog?
Speaker 3: Shit?
Speaker 2: Where did you watch the Grand Final?
Speaker 3: Friend's place? And I can't go to Grand Finals if
Speaker 3: I'm not in it.
Speaker 1: I'm jealous, pissed and filthy, and especially after the showing
Speaker 1: that was oh got on my nerves.
Speaker 2: So here's one of those. Do you think Collingwood would
Speaker 2: have put up a better showing than Sydney?
Speaker 1: No, look this, you know, there's no way of knowing this,
Speaker 1: but Sidney Peters respectively, and they deserve.
Speaker 2: To be there.
Speaker 1: Do I think maybe you would have set up better
Speaker 1: against Geelong or we've played Geelong in the past and
Speaker 1: had better games that were more entertaining.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know that's a fact.
Speaker 2: That's fact.
Speaker 3: You know, it is what it is. End of the day.
Speaker 3: They earn their spot there and that's that's whether they
Speaker 3: played well or not. That's on them.
Speaker 1: But like they you know, we're well or you know,
Speaker 1: able to get across the line against us and get
Speaker 1: the spot in the Grand Final and they deserve it.
Speaker 2: And I was hoping you said that because all the
Speaker 2: people on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Colling throw me under the bus there, but it won't you.
Speaker 2: Putting it out there. Okay, but yeah, Collingwood fans or whatever.
Speaker 2: We would have played a better game. We would have
Speaker 2: played a better game. It doesn't matter. It didn't make it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it sucks. It's part of footy. It's part of
Speaker 2: the footy journey. You suck it up, you go again.
Speaker 2: Only two teams can be in it. They have the
Speaker 2: two teams that earn't the right. As much as it sucks,
Speaker 2: that's what happened.
Speaker 1: If you won't watch us plage along. We did it
Speaker 1: twice during the year and we lost both of them
Speaker 1: by like a kick so rough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's keep firing through that. Jordan Degoi, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you know five years baby, what's your whole
Speaker 2: thoughts around it?
Speaker 3: Well, would love, would love to have a little bit
Speaker 3: of that cash, Just love to have some of security,
Speaker 3: a little bit of money in the back parking. It
Speaker 3: would be nice, wouldn't it. Yeah, Well, I probably got
Speaker 3: kicked about six goals a game. We might get there.
Speaker 2: But obviously all week was a talking point based on
Speaker 2: the behavioral clauses in the contract public? Do you think
Speaker 2: there should be allowed to be behavioral clauses above and
Speaker 2: beyond what's what's in there from an afl PA, you know,
Speaker 2: standard contract point of view.
Speaker 1: To a certain degree, maybe I think from a legality
Speaker 1: degree maybe, Like you know, I think I was going
Speaker 1: to think, like we are role models twenty four to seven,
Speaker 1: and whether we realize that we want to be or not,
Speaker 1: like we are in the media like because of our job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is it.
Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing is like whenever that
Speaker 1: kind of came out, like I kind of read a
Speaker 1: bit up on it, and I was like, you know
Speaker 1: what what probably happened was, you know, they go, you know,
Speaker 1: these stipulations and then he's gone back and he's going, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be a bit more specific here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because vague you know, like I assume what probably happens
Speaker 1: is like you can't do the X Y Z if
Speaker 1: this happens, like we you know, no, avoid the contract.
Speaker 1: But it's like, I think we'll probably have He came
Speaker 1: back to look, I want to have this in writing
Speaker 1: specifically of what happens, to make sure that you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit there and something minuscule happens,
Speaker 1: like he maybe runs a red light and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, they going contract's done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he doesn't want that to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think probably what was happening is they
Speaker 1: were trying to go back, you know, fine tooth come
Speaker 1: this saying bit of finer details and everything else, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's understandable for me to start a
Speaker 1: standpoint he doesn't want to get sacked for some miniscul
Speaker 1: thing that happens, and the club also doesn't want something
Speaker 1: big happen that's going to be ruining the reputation from
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, So there's understandable parts from
Speaker 1: both sides of the spectrum.
Speaker 3: But I have no idea the ins and out of
Speaker 3: what actually happened. I just know that the media loves
Speaker 3: to run with these things because Jordan Degi makes a
Speaker 3: headline for anyone in the area in Australia.
Speaker 2: But the managers also put it out in the media.
Speaker 2: We all know that that happens, and that's real. It's
Speaker 2: like we want people to know what's happening behind closed doors,
Speaker 2: or we want to put you know, Saint Kildo against
Speaker 2: Collingwood to give more money. Like we all know that
Speaker 2: the managers put it out there, but yeah, if it's
Speaker 2: if it was because of the vagueness of it, it's like,
Speaker 2: if you have off field issues, we can terminate your contract.
Speaker 2: Well it's like yeah, but what what is like if
Speaker 2: jaywalk am I getting the sack or like anything beyond that,
Speaker 2: because I think like.
Speaker 1: Right now in contracts right and it's written in there,
Speaker 1: so it's like we can't like skydive like wakeboard ski
Speaker 1: and then it kind of says like et cetera. And
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well, what does that et cetera count?
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm like, you know, if.
Speaker 3: I'm in a zor ball going down a hill? Does
Speaker 3: that count? Like, you know, and I do money that
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Like there's a bit of you know, there's a bit
Speaker 1: of gray gray area there, so I think a lot
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, exactly exactly, So I think the gray
Speaker 1: area probably just had to be cleared up a bit more.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of where it all went. And then
Speaker 3: the contract was signed.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times I don't saying this is
Speaker 1: the case, but a lot of times contracts can actually
Speaker 1: be signed plenty in advance, like you know, let's say
Speaker 1: not saying this kind of this contract with Georgie specifically,
Speaker 1: but like there's people sign a contract, you know, and
Speaker 1: then three four months later, the AFL says yes to
Speaker 1: the contract and takes off everything else, and then it
Speaker 1: becomes public. So these players are going all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they go, oh, well, congrats, you're signed, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I signed that three months ago. Likewise, it's just now
Speaker 1: coming together, you know, coming to light. So sometimes it's
Speaker 1: it just like waits on the AFL to actually create
Speaker 1: because they have the overarching ability over all the clubs,
Speaker 1: because they own everyone that they have to take off
Speaker 1: all the different things with the appearances and everything else
Speaker 1: within the contract. They go through that and fine tooth
Speaker 1: come that, and then they sign and then that's whenever
Speaker 1: it becomes public because every signature from all the different
Speaker 1: parties has actually created it.
Speaker 2: And now that follows on into my next question. Do
Speaker 2: you think that AFL clubs should be able to control
Speaker 2: what AFL players do outside of contact times? So you're
Speaker 2: contracted to be a training from let's just hypothetically say
Speaker 2: seven am to five pm. You go home after that
Speaker 2: and have a beer or have five beers. Should it
Speaker 2: just be that your performance dictates whether you get to
Speaker 2: or not. And outside of that, it's it shouldn't be
Speaker 2: anything to do with the club. And I'll say this
Speaker 2: before we get into it. We interviewed Ben Graham on
Speaker 2: another podcast and when he became captain at Seahawks whatever
Speaker 2: one of them, he said that players would go out
Speaker 2: to strip clubs the night before a game and stay
Speaker 2: out all night. He was like, right now, I'm captain,
Speaker 2: there's going to be change. He got them all into
Speaker 2: the change rooms and said, strip club before the game.
Speaker 2: We can't be doing that. Straight away, all the players
Speaker 2: like unanimously went, nah, get the union in here. You
Speaker 2: can't be telling us what to do outside of like
Speaker 2: contact ours. That's our life. We get to do whatever.
Speaker 2: If we decided to go out and drink and then
Speaker 2: perform poorly, just dropped on us, drop us or cut
Speaker 2: us from the list. But we get to do whatever
Speaker 2: we want in our own time. So and then what
Speaker 2: fans say and spectators say is, yeah, well they paid
Speaker 2: good money. But a lot of players don't see if
Speaker 2: you're getting paid like, you know, eighty one hundred, two
Speaker 2: hundred grand, and it's like we own you three sixty five.
Speaker 2: We get to tell you what to do and what
Speaker 2: not to do all the time. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I know people that earn you know, one hundred grand,
Speaker 2: two hundred grand in like the corporate world. Imagine if
Speaker 2: their boss went like, hey, Larry, don't drink at all,
Speaker 2: don't you know if.
Speaker 3: You want to keep your job, If you.
Speaker 2: Want to keep your job, you're not allowed to drink.
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to do anything. But it's like if
Speaker 2: Larry's coming in nine to five and doing his job
Speaker 2: and executing and hitting all of his you know, quotas
Speaker 2: or whatever, Yeah, it's fine. You can do whatever you
Speaker 2: want your free time what's the difference, And do you
Speaker 2: think that clubs should be able to dictate what players
Speaker 2: do throughout their off time.
Speaker 3: So here's a big thing is like clubs are a
Speaker 3: public thing, right, So clubs have sponsors. Sponsors have a
Speaker 3: certain kind of image.
Speaker 1: They want to bring to their brand, and you are
Speaker 1: a representation from a marketing aspect of the brand of
Speaker 1: let's say Collingwood, right. So I think from that standpoint,
Speaker 1: you have to understand that if you do things that
Speaker 1: are against the morals and ethics of these sponsors or
Speaker 1: the club room may be, then you have to be
Speaker 1: understanding that you're not it's not just on field. You're
Speaker 1: a representation of the club and something bigger. And if
Speaker 1: you do something to you know, take that repetition away
Speaker 1: from someone, that might be a financial costing. So you
Speaker 1: can imagine if a sponsor comes up to us and says, oh,
Speaker 1: let's say you know Victoria responsible gaming, right and you're
Speaker 1: promoting gambling, get in trouble for some kind of gambling thing, right,
Speaker 1: you can imagine like they're not going to sit there
Speaker 1: and go, oh, we want to sponsor them still because
Speaker 1: they're having issues with people and being able to live
Speaker 1: up to the legalities around responsible gambling, so they might
Speaker 1: drop it. You know, Let's say they're sponsoring us for
Speaker 1: one hundred grand, you lose one hundred grand all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, okay, well that's not on me,
Speaker 1: that's on the person. That's you know, not following our
Speaker 1: girls and regulations around you know, sponsorships. So there's sides
Speaker 1: of it like that I can understand. But there is
Speaker 1: the other sides where it says, you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: performing on the field, then I should be able to
Speaker 1: live a normal life as per you know, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it, per a normal human. And I
Speaker 1: think there's certain things where if you get in legal trouble,
Speaker 1: like yes, you should have some kind of you know,
Speaker 1: reprimand for that. Then that's I think that's pretty understandable.
Speaker 3: Like I think everyone who's in legal trouble, whether it
Speaker 3: be drunk driving or whether it be you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know, like if someone on a team, like we're
Speaker 3: to murder someone, you know, it's not like all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you go, oh, were You're okay to play? Right?
Speaker 3: Like you're good?
Speaker 1: Like there's certain things from a legality standpoint that you
Speaker 1: have to be able to uphold a certain image from
Speaker 1: the club. Whenever you sign a contract, there is you know,
Speaker 1: statements within that contract that says, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to be able to uphold this thing. Say, I think
Speaker 1: from my standpoint, it's a bit of a you have
Speaker 1: to allow us to live around life as long as
Speaker 1: we're not crossing a certain threshold of what's appropriate. And
Speaker 1: you're not gonna sit there and tell me like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't go and drink right now, because then the
Speaker 1: off season yea, Like for a long time, we have
Speaker 1: this big issue where clubs were you know, tracking people's
Speaker 1: GPSS and tracking how much they worked out in the
Speaker 1: off season and everything else, and we had to kick
Speaker 1: back and say, you know what, no, it's our off time,
Speaker 1: give us some space. And there was this big kickback
Speaker 1: with that saying like we shouldn't be having GPS trackers
Speaker 1: on us while we're in the off season. So there's
Speaker 1: things like that where clubs are doing that, like all
Speaker 1: of a sad you had to log every single workout
Speaker 1: and show us a GPS data that came with it,
Speaker 1: and it's.
Speaker 2: Like you're just on all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, well, where.
Speaker 1: Am I going to be abdle to detox from this
Speaker 1: chaotic life that is AFL. So there's a bit of both, man,
Speaker 1: I understand. Like I think from the legality standpoint, I
Speaker 1: think you have to be understanding that you are more
Speaker 1: than just the person you are on the field. You're
Speaker 1: the representation of the club, its sponsors, and everyone else
Speaker 1: that's involved, and if you do anything they can be
Speaker 1: detrimental to that, then you have to be reprimanded for
Speaker 1: those circumstances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I feel like if if you did something
Speaker 2: illegal when you're at any business, it becomes public, you
Speaker 2: get the sack. But it's like, you know, oh, we
Speaker 2: got a short week this week, no drinking. Oh we
Speaker 2: like there's only x amount of finite times in a
Speaker 2: season you can go out you have so you can
Speaker 2: like go out with your friends or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, we've got that client.
Speaker 1: We've got a seven day break, so if we have
Speaker 1: anything that's over a seven day break, you can go
Speaker 1: have a drink. If you have anything that's under seven days,
Speaker 1: then you're not allowed to, Yeah, which understandable because it's
Speaker 1: like you have to be able to get recovery. Obviously,
Speaker 1: everyone knows drinking is not great for recovery. You have
Speaker 1: to be able to try to maximize your ability to
Speaker 1: recover from a game before to be able to maximize
Speaker 1: the opportunity to come.
Speaker 3: In fresh for the next game.
Speaker 2: Isn't that on either?
Speaker 1: It is And if you get caught out then you'll
Speaker 1: get reprimmended. Yeah, and you might miss a game, like
Speaker 1: you might get suspended for a game from the other
Speaker 1: club's perspective.
Speaker 2: And then that goes into a broader chat. So obviously
Speaker 2: Hawthorne are going through some pretty serious, you know, allegations
Speaker 2: at the moment, but it's branching off in all different
Speaker 2: areas if those kind of actions from the club can
Speaker 2: turn into something more serious and sinister. For example, of
Speaker 2: like Sam Mitchell said in his book that you know,
Speaker 2: they took our phones office to go on interstate trip. See,
Speaker 2: some people might go like, oh, like it makes sense
Speaker 2: so you can focus or whatever. But you know, if
Speaker 2: you've got kids, if you've got a wife, if you've
Speaker 2: got in that circumstance like a sick kid, it's like, no,
Speaker 2: I want to be able to still communicate with my family.
Speaker 2: And it's like, well you're not taking it serious. Ah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Like it can be used against you and weaponize against you.
Speaker 2: It creates like a you know, a scary environment when
Speaker 2: it turns sinister like that, and then obviously you know
Speaker 2: it can have bigger, more severe repercussions when you talk
Speaker 2: about you know, terminating pregnancies or even in like essenonce case,
Speaker 2: like you know, take this, like just trust us, take
Speaker 2: this and creates an environment kind of like that where
Speaker 2: it's like we control everything you do and you just
Speaker 2: have to trust this that we've got our best intention,
Speaker 2: like your best intentions as a team, as an individual
Speaker 2: does it? I know it starts something small like like
Speaker 2: drinking on a Tuesday or something, but then goes into
Speaker 2: like taking phones and like having control over the players.
Speaker 2: Is there a point where it's like, you know, the
Speaker 2: players have to the AFLPA should really be coming out
Speaker 2: and going like what are you doing? The players are
Speaker 2: the players when they're in their contracted hours, and outside
Speaker 2: of that, they're humans. They get to go do their
Speaker 2: own thing. The biggest punishment for being in this life
Speaker 2: is you know, going to play golf and someone just
Speaker 2: stares at them from a distance, or you go out
Speaker 2: to a restaurant and someone hounds them at a restaurant
Speaker 2: for like a photo or a signature or what are
Speaker 2: you doing on the weekend. That's more of the downside
Speaker 2: of being you know, famous or athlete in Australia, Like,
Speaker 2: is there a point where you know, the AFLPA and
Speaker 2: the players have to be going like let's rain it
Speaker 2: back in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's a certain amount of responsibility that a
Speaker 1: club has to take on because they're taking in these
Speaker 1: eighteen year old kids who they're going to essentially let's
Speaker 1: say hopefully they have a ten year career and it's
Speaker 1: molded into something like that. But they're molding these people
Speaker 1: into these humans that have these kind of morals and
Speaker 1: ethics and everything else, right, And if you don't have
Speaker 1: a good culture that's teaching the right morals or ethics,
Speaker 1: then you know, you're almost breeding these kids in the
Speaker 1: terrible environment that's going to turn them into terrible people
Speaker 1: kind of thing like, And I think there needs to
Speaker 1: be just this understanding from a clubs for perspector that
Speaker 1: not only are you providing them with you know, the
Speaker 1: athletic ability and providing them with you know, the weights,
Speaker 1: training and everything else in the platform to be able
Speaker 1: to go perform on the field, but you need to
Speaker 1: be able to take care of them away from the
Speaker 1: field and make them into decent humans. Like there's how
Speaker 1: much time you spend as an athlete, and as an athlete,
Speaker 1: like within this club, you think about from traveling to
Speaker 1: new weekends and you know weekends are now playing games
Speaker 1: and now like everything you do is kind of wrapped
Speaker 1: around this kind of idea and this you know, this
Speaker 1: thing that is you as an AFL footballer, Like you
Speaker 1: need to be able to help mold them in the
Speaker 1: right direction and steer them in the right direction, whether
Speaker 1: it be you know, telling them to say, hey, you
Speaker 1: need to start studying because maybe your career is not
Speaker 1: going to be like last as long as you think
Speaker 1: it will. You need to have some kind of education
Speaker 1: once you come out of this, like telling them you
Speaker 1: need to do more media if that's something you're interested in,
Speaker 1: you know, try to figure that out.
Speaker 3: Whether it be you know, saying, yeah, you know you
Speaker 3: went on the weekend, you shouldn't have gone out on
Speaker 3: the weekend, had beers, you know, really back in whatever
Speaker 3: it may be, and you talk about taking away phones
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: There's certain bit I can understand where let's say you
Speaker 1: we used to do this at the club. We used
Speaker 1: to take away phones there a lunch, so whenever you
Speaker 1: go sit down lunch, you have to go interact and
Speaker 1: you'd be kind of uns forced, but like you'd be
Speaker 1: encouraged to speak to the people next to year, so
Speaker 1: you would get to know the people on admin, you
Speaker 1: get to know the player development managers, you know the
Speaker 1: coaches better, the teammates, all that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: you get your phone back in the in the hour,
Speaker 1: you know. So I understand those kind of things to
Speaker 1: try to build culture in a sense where you want
Speaker 1: to have more people understanding each other and getting.
Speaker 3: To know each other.
Speaker 1: But there's definitely a limit on all that, and I
Speaker 1: think that's where Hawthorne has definitely overstepped that boundary.
Speaker 2: If you've been inside the Four Walls, you know, clubs
Speaker 2: are essentially pretty rogue, Like they get to create and
Speaker 2: dictate their own rules, so they get to determine where
Speaker 2: the line is.
Speaker 1: A lot of times they're their parents now, like they
Speaker 1: move away from home and it's like okay, well now
Speaker 1: you are literally my kind of guardian as a club,
Speaker 1: Like you are there to help me protect me in
Speaker 1: I go to you whenever something goes wrong.
Speaker 2: Which is where like something as simple as like supplements.
Speaker 2: If you're an eighteen year old kid coming in fresh
Speaker 2: and they're like here, take this, You're like, well, this
Speaker 2: is Collingwood. Example, it's the biggest club in the league.
Speaker 2: I assume that they're going to have, you know, the
Speaker 2: best people inside the four walls. They're going to have
Speaker 2: the best nutritionis, they're going to have like the best
Speaker 2: you know, coaches, They're going to have the best of everything.
Speaker 2: So when someone comes up to you and says take this,
Speaker 2: You're not even gonna think twice, because like you've got
Speaker 2: a level of trust that you put into these people
Speaker 2: to essentially kind of keep raising you as a person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like you can just see how it leads to
Speaker 2: things like this happening. I reckon even bare minimum is
Speaker 2: like a legacy for like someone like Gil is like
Speaker 2: they should be going back and checking player welfare in
Speaker 2: particular obviously like indigenous player welfare, but beyond that of
Speaker 2: like what's going on. We can't just like leave all
Speaker 2: clubs to have one hundred percent control over and everything
Speaker 2: and set lines and like all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I feel.
Speaker 3: Like I think we'll probably happen. This is like the
Speaker 3: player was proposed Overlian in trusting the club that you know,
Speaker 3: they ask these questions that were life questions that are
Speaker 3: separate from work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're asking guidance in their life. Whenever they work
Speaker 1: is giving them guidance in their life whenever it should
Speaker 1: be almost like that's that's separate, Like that shouldn't be that,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be affecting your work kind of thing, Like
Speaker 1: you can make your life experiences and everything else away
Speaker 1: from they don't have to be totally intertwined twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven. Yeah, I think that's why way they overstapped,
Speaker 1: And it's like, man, you can't be telling them, you know,
Speaker 1: how to live their life outside of the club. You
Speaker 1: need to be able to give them, you know, opportunities
Speaker 1: to say like look, man, this is like your own.
Speaker 3: This is your own journey. This is an odd journey.
Speaker 3: Like we're like, you're part of our journey doing you're wrong,
Speaker 3: but like we're not dictating your full life journey.
Speaker 2: Because if you pull back from that element of the
Speaker 2: club having total control, kids coming in and go like, oh,
Speaker 2: I need to be able to stand on my own
Speaker 2: two feet and run my own life. I can't just
Speaker 2: go like, well, the club, you do everything, tell me
Speaker 2: where to go, what to eat, what to do, when
Speaker 2: to do it? Yeah, like to jump, how high? All
Speaker 2: that stuff like if you, if you? If you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a really interesting space because.
Speaker 1: One thing, one thing I'll say around is one of
Speaker 1: the issues I have right now is there's a soft cap.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So like obviously with our cloud we were lucky enough
Speaker 1: we have enough money that we're financially stable, and some
Speaker 1: other clubs might not then need steppings from the AFL
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But you talk about sitting there
Speaker 1: and going like that sensag. You talk about that it's
Speaker 1: like you're trusting of the doctor and trusting of everyone else,
Speaker 1: and it's like yeah, okay. But then you say you
Speaker 1: in your mind as an eighteen year old thinking, oh well,
Speaker 1: I'm in the AFL, this is the bigest sport in Australia.
Speaker 1: This must be the best doctors in Australia. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: must be the best physios in Australia, this must be
Speaker 1: everything must be the best. But then you sit there
Speaker 1: and go, now we're gonna put a soft cap on everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you go, well, why would the best doctor come
Speaker 1: work for you know, let's say fifty grand, whether they're
Speaker 1: making one hundred grand at private practice. You're not incentivizing
Speaker 1: those doctors be part of this program if you're gonna
Speaker 1: sit there and put a cap on them. So there
Speaker 1: should be there should be a certain limit of that cap.
Speaker 1: There should be a sitting there saying if it's anything
Speaker 1: for player welfare or anything to keep players on the
Speaker 1: field and keep their bodies healthy, that shouldn't be capped.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be limiting the kind of people we get
Speaker 1: in the program that you know, saying we're only going
Speaker 1: to pay you x amount, and then at the end
Speaker 1: of the you're gonna to go work your private practice
Speaker 1: because you don't we don't have enough money to be
Speaker 1: able to pay you. If we have it in our
Speaker 1: bank account, we can pay someone. If we can pay
Speaker 1: our doctor more to get the best doctor there is
Speaker 1: out there, we should be able to do that, or
Speaker 1: have the doctor there full time. We should be able
Speaker 1: to do that. We shouldn't be sitting there saying, oh, sorry,
Speaker 1: you got to leave at twelve because we don't pay
Speaker 1: you enough. You have to go work your other private practice.
Speaker 1: To make enough money to be able to feed your family.
Speaker 2: Well, compromise to be like exactly, that's what's might get
Speaker 2: a better doctor. But we're going to have to lose
Speaker 2: this stuff, mamma, exactly. And that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Like the AFL soft caps that, and it's like there
Speaker 1: should be a there should be a cause. And that says,
Speaker 1: you know, medical and everything else has to sit outside
Speaker 1: that cap spending for you know, whether it be tape
Speaker 1: and everything else to keep people in the same par
Speaker 1: and that the AFL does all this kind of stuff right,
Speaker 1: So they're overarching people this, I understand that, but there's
Speaker 1: a certain things that should live outside of that, for
Speaker 1: player welfare and better you know, like lifelong. It's like
Speaker 1: you said, there at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: like you're really like limiting the players and what they
Speaker 1: can actually get from recovery and everything else because you're
Speaker 1: not allowing people to be there as long as they
Speaker 1: should be. Like we have our head physio has to
Speaker 1: go do his private practice. So some times I'll go, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'll catch you tomorrow. Why is that because I'll go
Speaker 1: get my practice And it's like, mate, I'm a professional athlete,
Speaker 1: like I should be able to be physio whenever I need.
Speaker 1: Like maybe that's me being selfish, I'm not sure, but
Speaker 1: whenever you cap it with a soft cap, it limits
Speaker 1: the you know, how far you can actually get better
Speaker 1: and how how good the actual game gets because you're
Speaker 1: sitting there saying, we can only pay you financially so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would open up to broader stuff like you know,
Speaker 2: will the poorer clubs be able to lift up? But
Speaker 2: that's that's been the problem with the AFL. The whole
Speaker 2: way cap the bigger clubs from potential growth to keep
Speaker 2: them down with the smaller clubs, which is you.
Speaker 1: Know, that's the AFLs, that's the whole kind of like
Speaker 1: you know business, it's going we want to make sure
Speaker 1: everyone's on the same level playing field, which I get,
Speaker 1: I totally get. Don't get me wrong. Do they know
Speaker 1: use that power? But sometimes yes, as any business would,
Speaker 1: and I'm always going to have a bit of an
Speaker 1: opinion as I do, but like you should be able
Speaker 1: to find a way to try to make it even
Speaker 1: with without having to restrict the ability for teams to grow.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean when they're funding smaller clubs just
Speaker 2: divvy up the funding to be skewed towards things like
Speaker 2: mental health and doctors and.
Speaker 3: Eighty ms like player development managers to sit there and
Speaker 3: try to get kids lives on track. Und they finished footy.
Speaker 2: Well, that was good. That was a good chat. That
Speaker 2: was a really good in depth footy chat. We probably
Speaker 2: need something light to end on the Copeland trophy? Did
Speaker 2: you go to Copeland?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 1: I did go to the copelandt It was my heart date,
Speaker 1: me and myself and I she was a beautiful, lovely lady.
Speaker 3: No, I've been eight years.
Speaker 1: Never brought a date to a one year I did
Speaker 1: bring in maybe two years actually, jeez, jeven shining maybe.
Speaker 2: Anyway, few neols, so they.
Speaker 1: Were there further on. Uh, they were theirs in that
Speaker 1: ball player. So maybe that wasn't my date because they
Speaker 1: had to do their own. Yeah, so eight years, never.
Speaker 3: Had a date.
Speaker 2: And where'd you fit the top ten?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 1: No date, but they only show the top five, So
Speaker 1: I could have been six. I could have been six, brighton.
Speaker 1: I just didn't get his trophy for it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's the way I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Pendal's hand off is like watches.
Speaker 3: He would have twenty by now, yeah, he gets to
Speaker 3: watch every year. I don't know what he'd be doing
Speaker 3: with it. I mean, like.
Speaker 1: Selling for twenty grand what it is. You know he's going,
Speaker 1: I've already got three of these mate, thanks tag.
Speaker 2: He's crazy. He's finished in the top three every year
Speaker 2: since like two thousand and seven except for two years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like two thousand and nine and two thousand seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's injured for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like two thousand and nine was just an
Speaker 2: elite year. Yeah, and it's like he was, you know, twenty,
Speaker 2: he's really young. It's just like, yeah, he's finished top
Speaker 2: three for you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a gun. We all know this. He's a
Speaker 3: fine one. He's still killing it.
Speaker 1: You know at age got you know, sixty five, Like shit, dude,
Speaker 1: the dude's just an absolute fun one. And credit to him,
Speaker 1: you know, like whenever he wins these things. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, like there's this whole thing now Geelong's won
Speaker 1: a championships and one.
Speaker 3: They're too old.
Speaker 1: They're too old, and it's like this whole idea that
Speaker 1: like once you hit thirty you shouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: play AFL anymore. I think that stigma is now getting broken,
Speaker 1: especially now Geelong Pendles all these kind of people Joel
Speaker 1: who's like been successful and still can play at the
Speaker 1: high level. I think even you talk about different sports
Speaker 1: home Rady like these people are playing at the high
Speaker 1: level and still outperforming people that are younger than them.
Speaker 1: I understand there's a certain point you need to try
Speaker 1: to develop people. But if you still think there's value
Speaker 1: that you can get out of these people at thirty plus,
Speaker 1: then I think the mentality around it is starting to
Speaker 1: really change, which is good.
Speaker 3: Good for me at least.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. So you got, yeah, another three, four
Speaker 2: or five years left in.
Speaker 3: Wow, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, Who knows.
Speaker 2: If not just finish it around at Geelong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, little far oh yeah there yeah, just yeah,
Speaker 1: kicking back in the retirement life.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's it for us. We've got a big week
Speaker 2: next week. Dave Thornton.
Speaker 1: Dave Thornton, he's a great man, great travel story coming
Speaker 1: to the travel Story is gold.
Speaker 2: Some crazy stories in there. And if you haven't go
Speaker 2: back and watched Nolan Cox.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the old Brother. There's a lot of good ones.
Speaker 1: And we're going to start getting back into these interviews
Speaker 1: because we've got interviews every couple weeks coming out now,
Speaker 1: so we'll do interview, catch up, interview catch up again.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to the States for a bit,
Speaker 1: but we're We've got some banked up ones and there's
Speaker 1: some absolute treats in there.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, we've got to get filthy in for
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: I might get a little filthy in for a little
Speaker 1: bit of a Camiah who knows Little cam the big
Speaker 1: filthy film.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thanks for having me on, and good luck.
Speaker 3: Over anytime mate. Before we go there, Before we go
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