WEBVTT - KANA FORD - RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE - STAN AUSTRALIA

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload, the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Last Leave the Light.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Carnifford,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the second eliminated queen from RuPaul's Drag Race

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<v Speaker 1>down Under. I always feel for.

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<v Speaker 2>The queens that go home early, as.

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<v Speaker 1>There is so much preparation and excitement in the lead

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<v Speaker 1>up to doing these sorts of reality shows. I could

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<v Speaker 1>hear today when I was talking to cantor Afford that

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't ready to leave the competition, and I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wondering if you will pick up on that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Cartifford will share that she applied for the previous series

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about the reasons why it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was her destiny to be held off until this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We will unpack the snatch game and how the groups

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<v Speaker 1>were split into two, then find out if the two

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<v Speaker 1>different sets of queens were actually allowed to watch each

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<v Speaker 1>other face off against Michelle Visage. I will discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>critiques on the runway and find out how much of

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<v Speaker 1>the queens can actually hear from the judges as they

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<v Speaker 1>are going up and down the catwalk. You will get

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<v Speaker 1>everything from what Cantorford's bank balance looks like at this

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<v Speaker 1>point after competing in the competition, who their favorite Snatch

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<v Speaker 1>game performer was, and we will of course talk about

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<v Speaker 1>there being three queens in the bottom. There is so

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<v Speaker 1>much to discuss, with so many inside revelations, So guys,

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world

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<v Speaker 1>of RuPaul's Drag Race down Under season four.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you all right done so well? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, Like I'm can I just say I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>feeling this season of RuPaul's Drag Race. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming into its own Do you feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>this show now sort of feels like it has its

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<v Speaker 1>own flavor and it knows what it's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that us season four girls had something to prove.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, I love all of the other contestants

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<v Speaker 3>from the first three seasons, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think we were getting the love that we deserved.

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<v Speaker 3>Us coming into season four, I personally was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we need something to prove. We need all of the

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<v Speaker 3>world to like appreciate the drag that is here done

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<v Speaker 3>Under like that is finally happening, which is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the expectation or the understanding of what

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<v Speaker 1>it is has really come along, so it's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're tuning in for. And then the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of queens this year overall from a viewer's perspective, just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's leveled up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely. I think me personally, coming onto this season,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't expect the queens to be this talented, So

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<v Speaker 3>I think from the get go I was definitely like

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<v Speaker 3>taking aback with how talented these girls were.

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<v Speaker 1>You were looking for some Season three queens say it,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you about this audition process, which

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<v Speaker 1>there something that you felt like you did the cut

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<v Speaker 1>through made you stand out above maybe the other queens

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<v Speaker 1>that were applying.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it wasn't necessarily like something that I did

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<v Speaker 3>in the audition tape, but I think it was more

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<v Speaker 3>of like all the experiences opportunities that I got that

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<v Speaker 3>I got to tell in my audition tape that really

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<v Speaker 3>pushed me over Because I did audition for season three

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like so set on being on season three,

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<v Speaker 3>but I obviously didn't make it on. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>that because I didn't get on. I got all of

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<v Speaker 3>these other opportunities while the girls were filming away, So

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<v Speaker 3>if I had gone on, I wouldn't gone these opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>You think that all the opportunities that I got were

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<v Speaker 3>like baby steps to make it onto season four.

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<v Speaker 1>It always feels like right time, right place for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe I needed to go and gather more stories

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. Is that how you felt?

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly like exactly what I was thinking, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>just like right time, right place.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything happens for a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>There was like all these things that I did, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was on a I was in Jess Give Outbay

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<v Speaker 3>his music video before I got on, And I also

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<v Speaker 3>did this competition, a drug competition which I won where

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<v Speaker 3>I won like ten thousand dollars. Like all of these

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<v Speaker 3>things that I did after not getting on the first

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<v Speaker 3>time like helped me get on the next time. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely a right time, right place kind of moment

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I actually had my makeup done once. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a drag queen, but I was going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Arias and Channel I organized for me to have my

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<v Speaker 1>makeup done and I got to have my makeup done

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<v Speaker 1>next to Jessica Melboy. How divine is that?

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<v Speaker 2>So much? She's incredible, one of the sweetest people in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was there and her brother was there as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I got to meet some of the family

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<v Speaker 1>and I just remember walking away from that whole experience

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking, man, Jessica Melboy is not only really talented,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's really sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, is that an influence?

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you have have you picked up influences along

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<v Speaker 1>the way? Like for me, if I watched TV shows,

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<v Speaker 1>I find that I start being those people. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I actually realized that it's actually a kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>compliment to the people that I've met along the way,

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<v Speaker 1>because I borrow things from them.

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<v Speaker 3>I do say that she leads her whole life with

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<v Speaker 3>like love, and you can see that in her, so

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I would say that doing that is probably

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<v Speaker 3>something that I would take away from home.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a question you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot today, and that is that you found yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom two in week one, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know whether or not you thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to go home, Like what was your interpretation of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think think that if there had to be

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<v Speaker 1>a cut that it would have been you for.

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<v Speaker 3>Me personally, the both times that I was on the bottom,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think I was going to be in the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm kind of glad that I was in the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom because the lip sync song that we got rushed

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<v Speaker 3>was like a song that has a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>sentimental value to me. So to be able to perform

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<v Speaker 3>that song in the Demigogan costume, like in the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>it was obviously traumatic for me, but like, after processing

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<v Speaker 3>what I've done with this show, I'm kind of glad

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<v Speaker 3>that it happened because now it's turned into a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of iconic moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm glad that it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a double save for us both because as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as I heard this Sinner's name first, like my heart

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<v Speaker 3>sank and I felt my like world was turned upside

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<v Speaker 3>down just for that split second.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Snatch Game. Everyone talks about the Snatch Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone loves the Snatch Game. Is that a lot of pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think because it's so iconic and it is

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<v Speaker 1>in every series, is that the most that you get

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<v Speaker 1>inside your head because it's so because the pressure is

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<v Speaker 1>so strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's exactly that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're obviously like the Snatch game itself, like you have

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<v Speaker 3>to think about all the things you have to do,

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<v Speaker 3>like you have to answer a question while being in

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<v Speaker 3>a character and then having to volley off the other

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<v Speaker 3>girls and Michelle. It's just like a lot to think about,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's hard to almost like live in the moment

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<v Speaker 3>a bit because you kind of like you're like doing

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<v Speaker 3>all these things all at once. So like for me personally,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I did overthink about it too much, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that was like a bit of my

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<v Speaker 3>downfall for Snatch Game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether or not you realized it, but

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<v Speaker 1>they kept kind of played you as one note with

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<v Speaker 1>just your catchphrase with Eddie Murphy. Did you fear that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what was going to happen? Did you fear that

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you prepared and that's all you gave, or

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>When I kind of like lost my train of thought,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, just go back to the how

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<v Speaker 3>you doing, which is like.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's good, don't get me wrong, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was good. Like every time you said it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, because I grew up with Eddie Murphy and

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with the Natti Professor, so like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is good, but I was like, because

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<v Speaker 1>they broke the teams into two and there was seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>less screen time for everybody, it kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you'd prepared, And I wanted to ask you today,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have more than that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like this character that I've done for Snatch Game was

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<v Speaker 3>like a character that I always used to pretend to

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<v Speaker 3>be growing up, Like me and my family always used

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<v Speaker 3>to watch the movie, and me and my cousins would

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<v Speaker 3>always pretend to be that character. And even with my

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<v Speaker 3>friends now, like I pretend to be the character, and

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<v Speaker 3>I would like just even make myself like pissed, laughing,

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<v Speaker 3>like doing it so like I couldn't see myself doing

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else. But in terms of I think that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that, like, like you need to prefer I think

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<v Speaker 3>you need to prepare more for Snatch Game because I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do. I mean, I prepared myself, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>prepare myself enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, did you think that there could be something else?

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<v Speaker 1>Like did you have something else in your back pocket?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was confident in my character enough I

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<v Speaker 3>could just like be the character. I didn't prepare another

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<v Speaker 3>character unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what was really strange to me was about

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<v Speaker 1>the Missus Claws scenario. Like I could understand Tuma Donald's,

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<v Speaker 1>I would understand three Kylie's, maybe five Kylakus, but missus

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<v Speaker 1>Claus it seemed like a really odd thing for two

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<v Speaker 1>people to pick at the same time. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that there's any chance that they were set up to

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<v Speaker 1>bring those two things?

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<v Speaker 3>What I heard from the girls, like it was honestly

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<v Speaker 3>like both their first choices, so like, it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>did blow my mind to see that there were two

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<v Speaker 3>Missus Clauses because it's such a niche character. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just crazy how those two were first, How those

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<v Speaker 3>two their same character?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you able to see each other's because there's two rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, there's two sets of queens. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>able to watch the other queens do their snatch game?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were, which was like really good. Once we

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<v Speaker 3>finished our Goie Sudden a Little Room, we actually got

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<v Speaker 3>to watch all of the queens do that snash game,

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<v Speaker 3>which is really good. I got glad I got to

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<v Speaker 3>watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a favorite?

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely think that Brenda's character was incredible, Like me

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<v Speaker 3>and the other girls were just pissing ourselves laughing at

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<v Speaker 3>all the things that she was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So that Brenda did really well for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What advice would you give to people going into snatch

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<v Speaker 1>game now that you've done it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think advice from my own experience would probably just

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<v Speaker 3>be like, don't overthink it, just be more confident in

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<v Speaker 3>your character.

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<v Speaker 1>I think by nature, can I just say this? By nature,

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<v Speaker 1>you are sort of softly presented, and so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's who you are, and I think in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>people might misread that as being maybe not as strong.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm definitely more softly spoken in situations like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I exerte all of my confidence and energy

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<v Speaker 3>into my performance. Yeah, I would say that you're right

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<v Speaker 3>in that I'm a lot more like selfly spoken.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that this competition, in particular Rupoul's

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<v Speaker 1>drag race, makes you face your demons, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>to see that with Max. You know, it was really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting watching Max have that breakdown, but they did allude

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<v Speaker 1>to there being more to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize what was happening with Max until like

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<v Speaker 3>the day of so it was kind of like it

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<v Speaker 3>was very sad to see what happened with her. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>she had a moment with Vibe and they were talking,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't want to interfere because like, obviously she

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<v Speaker 3>was feeling some sort of way, and then hearing that

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<v Speaker 3>it was because of her mother, like just like like

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<v Speaker 3>on stage as well, Like it was like a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a shocking moment for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, this is going to sound really savage, but that

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<v Speaker 1>particular storyline was quite compelling and it was quite emotional

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<v Speaker 1>as a viewer. But I also wondered whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>it actually helped her get through the competition to the

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<v Speaker 1>next stage. Do you think that had Max not have

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<v Speaker 1>had that emotional moment and that sort of storyline, that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Max could have gone home.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that having that happening to her and like

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<v Speaker 3>the feelings that she was feeling, yeah, I could have

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<v Speaker 3>definitely helped her.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I also like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Like emotions that she probably was feeling, probably like is

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<v Speaker 3>what made her kick her ass to like fighting that

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<v Speaker 3>lip synco I guess as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's interesting. I mean, emotions play into these

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of things and you can't help it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly don't think that she put that on to save herself.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think the more stripped back you can be,

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<v Speaker 1>and the more raw you can be on and vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the more people can.

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<v Speaker 2>Connect to you get that.

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<v Speaker 1>Reyes Nicholson said something really weird. I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>read it out. Don't worry, be happy, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>was like one of your critiques. When you're on the runway,

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<v Speaker 1>can you hear the critiques that's been said by the judges.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you hear what they were saying?

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely can hear what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I did the Runway the week before, like

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<v Speaker 3>the shit genius, because I was wearing like long black

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<v Speaker 3>latex gloves, it kind of looked like I was wearing

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<v Speaker 3>fisting gloves and so like Michelle says a joke about

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<v Speaker 3>fisting and so like, at the end of my runway,

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<v Speaker 3>pretend that I'm like fisting someone.

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<v Speaker 1>The lip sync with three people gave me afters vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where you have the kick.

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<v Speaker 2>Ons, I do know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's house after you've been out of the club and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone's like, you know, they feel themselves they've overserved

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone loves a bit of attention, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the three and I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if three people work on.

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<v Speaker 3>A show like this, It's definitely something that I wasn't expecting.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the thing about this show is that you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to expect the unexpected.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel in the moment while you're dancing who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go home? Like? Were you? Like? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>should just think about this all the time on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always like I would just push someone out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. I mean, maybe that's just something about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'd be watching what the other people are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like in the moment to be dancing

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<v Speaker 1>up against two other people.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, Like, wasn't paying attention to them? Like I was

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<v Speaker 3>obviously like had my bearings of like where they were.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I gave my everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think you were going home. Spoiler alert for people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm allowed to leave this in,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I watched the episodes without seeing who

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<v Speaker 1>goes home, So when I watched the episode, I was unsure,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I heard it was you, I was

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<v Speaker 1>quite surprised. So, look, I thought you did a very

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<v Speaker 1>good job. When it came to the lip syncing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I thought that I gave my all this well,

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<v Speaker 3>but I guess that I'm the judge and going to

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<v Speaker 3>leave it up to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I always finished my podcast with and this is

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<v Speaker 1>like I think this is episode five hundred, so thank

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of forward. So it's a milestone for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that that's where it is. But look, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask the people at iHeartRadio, but I always

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<v Speaker 1>ask what is something from behind the scenes, And I

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<v Speaker 1>understand with World of Wonder that we really can't peel

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<v Speaker 1>back too much and really reveal too much of the

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<v Speaker 1>RuPaul's Drag Race secrets. So I kind of thought of

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<v Speaker 1>asking you a particular question, and that is how much

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<v Speaker 1>money did you spend on your around fix preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>Rubels Drag Race.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like I said before, I won that competition right

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<v Speaker 3>before I got on, which was like ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>catty much like used most of that and even a

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<v Speaker 3>bit more than what I had, like I had to

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<v Speaker 3>pay people back when I got back. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>was probably I would probably say around eleven twelve. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like my eleven twelve thousand was like my price

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<v Speaker 3>of my package.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like it was destiny though, right, because that

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<v Speaker 1>money was kind of not yours. It was one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is yours, but I mean I always

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<v Speaker 1>think with competition money, it's like you know, winning on

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<v Speaker 1>the the casino, do you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't treat that money the same way that you

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<v Speaker 1>do with the money that you earn. So you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go, well, this is a gift and now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to put it back into the universe and you

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<v Speaker 1>can afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot. Well, I did not right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Not anymore countless scruples, you know. I just I really

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<v Speaker 1>feel your warmth and your integrity, and I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>done such a fantastic job on this show and you

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<v Speaker 1>should be really proud. So I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>what you do with your whole Rugirl experience, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very short list of people that get to

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<v Speaker 1>do this show, and what an amazing achievement to get picked.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's very kind of you to say

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<v Speaker 3>that there's a pleasure meeting you as well, and you've

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<v Speaker 3>been very kind and I'm very glad that I got

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to you too,