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Speaker 1: Benden. I know, I know you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think anything. I know you

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Speaker 2: think I'm being realistic and being a winder.

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Speaker 1: You have no mp for anyone but yourself.

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Speaker 3: To the Jersey Demanda Show as we know it started

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Speaker 3: in the aftermath of the two thousand and four tsunami in.

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Speaker 2: Pouquet, an undersea earthquake sent enormous way. Since then, we've

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Speaker 2: been here, as you're constant. While the world changed social.

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Speaker 4: Media, it changed three for Barack or oil wedding, the

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Speaker 4: iPhone like a sentinel.

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Speaker 3: We have watched over the world since two thousand and five,

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Speaker 3: and thanks.

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Speaker 2: To a detailed set of diaries that Jonesy has.

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Speaker 1: Kept, well the kind of detailed.

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Speaker 3: But we do have a Time Travelers podcast of a

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Speaker 3: highly successful radio show. Highly successful a podcast of a

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Speaker 3: moderately successful radio show.

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Speaker 2: All right, well let's begin, shall we.

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Speaker 3: Well, friend all, it is twenty twelve, the year of

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Speaker 3: twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: This is our second installment into the year of twenty

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Speaker 2: twelve and the Time Travelers podcast. This is where we're

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Speaker 2: going through Jones's diary, his work diary that just jogs

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Speaker 2: our memories and reminds us of what was going on,

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Speaker 2: And because it's your diary, I can't see it. So

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Speaker 2: tell me what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, a big year. It was in twenty twelve. You

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Speaker 1: turned fifty years ago. Wow, yeah, what do you remember

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Speaker 2: I remember having a party.

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Speaker 1: It's a great party.

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Speaker 2: You have the invitation. The invitation because you keep all

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Speaker 2: that stuff here, it is can have a look.

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Speaker 1: It's a great invitation. Look at it.

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Speaker 2: It was like a movie. What's it called? A movie

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Speaker 2: poster from the fifties. Amanda Keller is fifty. The broad

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Speaker 2: was fifty. She wanted to party. Booze, beefcake and dancing,

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Speaker 3: I remember Morgan came along because he was anteen, and

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Speaker 3: Piece and all that sort of stuff. Two hours later

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Speaker 2: When I went to his surprise thirtieth the other day,

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Speaker 1: And he's thirty now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But at the party, we decorated it with lots

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Speaker 2: I'd planned to have something, which was just earlier this

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Speaker 2: to perform, Leo Sayer. Leosayer had been booked.

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Speaker 3: We managed to get Leo to come and perform here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, which was such a surprise to me.

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Speaker 2: I've never felt that my best was behind me, and

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Speaker 3: Would you have thought back then, when you're fifty, that

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Speaker 1: The old days there when they used to retire. Yah.

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Speaker 3: All I've ever wanted.

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Speaker 1: Scrap booking, there's many people.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that Jeff Bezos's whole fortune is based.

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Speaker 2: On scrapbook I think that's how he did it, quite right.

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Speaker 1: Well that year as well, you were immortalized in wacks.

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Speaker 2: Your family was there too, and my children were trying

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Speaker 2: to you know, they checked if I had undies on,

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Speaker 2: And since then I've had to be repaired a few

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Speaker 2: try and take your fake jewels.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to steal your fake jewels, and you were

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Speaker 1: one of.

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Speaker 2: One of the greatest honors of my life, to be imagined.

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Speaker 1: It's a big deal. I'm waiting for them to put

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Speaker 2: Sure enough? Is there enough whack.

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Speaker 1: Hair and balls and.

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Speaker 2: And wick and do you have enough wick?

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Speaker 1: Because you're in there with Ralph Harris.

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Speaker 2: I think they're before So I was in an Australian area.

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Speaker 2: Like he'd still be in if he's still in that,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they see still so recognizable. But I

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Speaker 2: think Rolf has been melted down. I'm melt dead.

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Speaker 3: I think they should get one of the the brides

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Speaker 3: from Married at first sight is they already come with

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Speaker 2: And when I went to London, they said, come and

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Speaker 2: And it's fascinating. They were working on actually that's where

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Speaker 2: it was. I saw Steve when they're working on Steve

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Speaker 2: and the pains taking away putting the tiny freckles on

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Speaker 2: were basketballers who are having tiny bits of one hair

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Speaker 2: at a time, incredibly meticulous. It's a fascinating, fascinating process.

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Speaker 1: You're a worthy winner. Will continue twenty twelve next time

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Speaker 1: on our podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's if I feel like turning up.

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Speaker 1: Of course you will. Good day to you, Goodbue.

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