Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload.
Speaker 2: The podcast last week.
Speaker 1: Thereby, Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode
Speaker 1: with Karen, who absolutely deserves the chance to unpack that
Speaker 1: final Tribal Council experience on a strained Survivor brands versus
Speaker 1: Broad two. Love her moves or not, Karen's decision to
Speaker 1: tribal Council gave us an unforgettable TV moment. I was
Speaker 1: surprised to hear how much trolling she's received for what
Speaker 1: some may say was a self sabotaging play at the end.
Speaker 1: But let's not forget this is a TV show and
Speaker 1: the boldest players give us the best moments of the season,
Speaker 1: and that is why I'm thrilled that Karen is here
Speaker 1: to share her side of the story. In this episode,
Speaker 1: Karen breaks down exactly what was going through her mind
Speaker 1: as she took a high stakes gamble in week six.
Speaker 1: Karen will share her thoughts on the remaining players, all
Speaker 1: of them left in the competition, and drop some excellent
Speaker 1: exclusives along the way. I'll ask Karen about the reception
Speaker 1: she received at the jury of Villa and get her
Speaker 1: takes on some of the biggest moves that she made
Speaker 1: in the game. Plus, we will find out which castaways
Speaker 1: have become her lifelong friends, and of course, why she
Speaker 1: told Miles to shut his legs. There's actually so much
Speaker 1: to discuss, with plenty of behind the scenes revelations, So
Speaker 1: sit back, relax, and let's dive into the incredible world
Speaker 1: of a Strained Survivor, which returns this Sunday night on
Speaker 1: Network ten. I'm excited to talk to you. How are
Speaker 1: you feeling this morning.
Speaker 2: I've just finished a night sift, so tie, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I know I've had you know, what's it?
Speaker 3: Golly? When did I get edited out last night? Night before?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had thirty six hours of you know, unadulted
Speaker 2: a week time to contend with my demons.
Speaker 1: What do you mean your demons? I mean it was
Speaker 1: an epic way to leave the show and everyone's going
Speaker 1: to remember you forever.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah no.
Speaker 2: But by demons, I mean all of like the keyboard
Speaker 2: mafia calling me more on Those are the demons, amen.
Speaker 1: Current you know who this people are. Those people are
Speaker 1: a picture of a cat or a crow. They can't
Speaker 1: do these shows. They couldn't apply. They can't come for you, mate.
Speaker 2: Oh, like this is what happens when it's like three
Speaker 2: am and you're bored and you're waiting for an X
Speaker 2: ray to happen, and you're like I was read Reddit
Speaker 2: and you're like, no, don't read readit, but not like yeah,
Speaker 2: but no, it's all good.
Speaker 3: Nah, I feel good better gooder. Now there you go.
Speaker 3: You feel gooder, yeah, gooder better.
Speaker 1: You were so good on this show, though, Like I
Speaker 1: just thought you were so confident, and you're so well spoken,
Speaker 1: and you were so articulate. And I walked away thinking,
Speaker 1: even though people will come for you with the way
Speaker 1: that you came out of this show, I think you're
Speaker 1: a very smart lady.
Speaker 3: I like to think so too.
Speaker 2: I think a large percentage of the time I'm quite smart,
Speaker 2: am I sort of like boneheaded and stubborn, absolutely, But
Speaker 2: like I think, like the baseline IQ sort of subdues
Speaker 2: the boneheaded stubbornness, but sometimes it comes out.
Speaker 3: We can't blame we can't be perfect all the time.
Speaker 1: Paully said something to me about it, because I spoke
Speaker 1: to Paulli after yourope and he was like, I know
Speaker 1: people are going to say something about the way in
Speaker 1: which current came out of the show. Any sitting on
Speaker 1: their couch at home understand how tired, how hungry, and
Speaker 1: how I can't over the turn of phrase that he used.
Speaker 1: But sort of like you are at the wick, you know,
Speaker 1: like you are not operating like a person who's just
Speaker 1: ordered a pizza and it's having a glass of wine
Speaker 1: watching an aeron twenty minutes of television.
Speaker 3: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: So like, even sort of the information I got was
Speaker 2: pretty much a minute thirty seconds into like going to tribal,
Speaker 2: and then you're just sort of going, okay, cool, these
Speaker 2: are the numbers. Wait a minute, she said, these are
Speaker 2: still one of the bizarre. That means they're on this
Speaker 2: side of the split. And then you get this sort
Speaker 2: of like split fatigue, and then you're going, Okay, who
Speaker 2: likes me? Who doesn't like me?
Speaker 3: Great? What am I going to do? How do I
Speaker 3: do this?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Crap, I can't talk to anyone now because we're on
Speaker 2: the way to tribal. Okay, maybe you should just shut up.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like.
Speaker 2: Just just keep your pie hole shut. And I was like, well, like,
Speaker 2: then if I keep my pie hole shut, I'll go
Speaker 2: to the next round. Then I have to grovel and
Speaker 2: beg and like, I'm.
Speaker 3: So sorry, aj My was ha ha ha. I'm back again.
Speaker 2: Please love me, even though I've you know, essentially ran
Speaker 2: a smear campaign against you for the last fourteen days.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'll change.
Speaker 1: I was watching it, but I've done competition reality, so
Speaker 1: I know what it's like. And I think that when
Speaker 1: you're very stressed in those environments, things can change in
Speaker 1: a minute, and so it's very easy to let your
Speaker 1: emotions get the better of you. And in some other
Speaker 1: competition reality letting the emotions get the better of you works.
Speaker 1: But for this game and those people out there that
Speaker 1: study this game, they think you can't be emotional the
Speaker 1: way that you were. But I mean it could have
Speaker 1: very easily worked. I mean that's what Russian rule it is, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that was like, so I got
Speaker 2: my read on that situation wrong in two parts. Like
Speaker 2: I understand that in hindsight, I didn't realize how close
Speaker 2: Kaylen was to ag like and that's a credit to Kaylen.
Speaker 2: Klein and I had a very very good relationship in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: Wasn't shown very well. We had a very good relationship.
Speaker 2: We come from sort of similar sporting backgrounds, We sort
Speaker 2: of understand each other in a similar way as well.
Speaker 2: And I knew it would be hard to switch him on,
Speaker 2: but like I figured a knee jerk event was the
Speaker 2: only way to kip him over the age.
Speaker 3: But I didn't realize how.
Speaker 2: Entrenched he was with AJ and like it didn't make
Speaker 2: sense for Kristen and Logan to turn like it did
Speaker 2: not make sense given that Kristen was someone that I'd
Speaker 2: been protecting since Tribe Swap when it came down to
Speaker 2: like the hostage situations.
Speaker 3: And then like.
Speaker 2: Zara had built such a close relationship with PD, PD
Speaker 2: and I would have many chats across the map in
Speaker 2: TRIBESWAP as well, so I'd already built a relationship in
Speaker 2: that regard Logan, I've been sort of saving since the
Speaker 2: start in like Brain's one point zero, So it didn't
Speaker 2: really make sense for them to sort of put themselves
Speaker 2: onto a bottom of an already existing majority, like, which
Speaker 2: is why it sort of just went, hey, I've like
Speaker 2: I've given you zero like risk to you in this point,
Speaker 2: Like we can hit anyone, we hit anyone, I'm going
Speaker 2: to get like we'll give you an options. Because Miles
Speaker 2: seems to be the lowest hanging fruit that everyone wants
Speaker 2: to go for.
Speaker 3: We can go there.
Speaker 2: We can just hit aj and if he has an idol,
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter because you still get me out
Speaker 2: in the process.
Speaker 3: So like zero cost you.
Speaker 2: I was hoping that it would sort of tickle the
Speaker 2: resume building side of their brains a little bit, to
Speaker 2: be like, you know, you're currently up against huge game
Speaker 2: players who are throwing wild moves back, left, right, and center,
Speaker 2: and now you've got an opportunity to put yourself into
Speaker 2: one and potentially turn the hierarchy in the game.
Speaker 3: Take it, Take it.
Speaker 1: I mean Kristin tried to help you, and I think
Speaker 1: that had Kristen's advice to you, if you just let
Speaker 1: that wash over you and just sort of changed a
Speaker 1: few decisions, you might have still been in the competition.
Speaker 1: But I also worry at this point for everyone that's
Speaker 1: left that's not Miles, who has a resume that everyone
Speaker 1: is going to vote for when we get to jury.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know at this point.
Speaker 3: Again, it's really important.
Speaker 2: I mean, like you can so currently in the game,
Speaker 2: there are people that can pitch a.
Speaker 3: Very strong jury pitch.
Speaker 2: AJ can build an incredible jury pitch from what he's done, Yes,
Speaker 2: does it look like he's a bit chaotic, but he
Speaker 2: still managed to escape multiple attents at him, and.
Speaker 3: He can pitch.
Speaker 2: He's had the most audacious plan, which you know we
Speaker 2: were all part of, to take hostages, and he still
Speaker 2: pro survived to merge. He's still managed to sort of
Speaker 2: band a loyal army around him that are very reluctant
Speaker 2: to vote against them even when it's in their best interests.
Speaker 2: Miles has an incredible resume, which which is evident, and
Speaker 2: he's stacking up votes left, right, and center. We're looking
Speaker 2: at like quite possibly record breaking numbers for Miles at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: And the weird thing is that I didn't like him
Speaker 1: to start with. I didn't enjoy him on the show
Speaker 1: for so long, and now he's been around for so
Speaker 1: long and he's pulled so many moves. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: think that he's queen beat, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: it's so weird.
Speaker 3: It's the weird thing about.
Speaker 2: Miles is like, yeah, he's like it's so frontal when
Speaker 2: it comes to how he expresses himself, and it comes
Speaker 2: off across incredibly.
Speaker 3: Annoying at the start, and you're like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: But then you get to the crux of who Miles
Speaker 2: is and it's actually quite endearing, hilarious, and then like
Speaker 2: the word vomit you get sometimes when he goes off
Speaker 2: on a tangent is hilarious and also like great white noise.
Speaker 2: I remember asking him about I don't know. We were
Speaker 2: looking at the stars and then I got like twenty
Speaker 2: minutes of string theory and whether a photon transmits as
Speaker 2: a wave or a particle, and I went, Miles, it's
Speaker 2: two am.
Speaker 1: It's two am. I don't know what time it is,
Speaker 1: but it feels like I've been talking to you forever.
Speaker 1: I literally, Yeah, was it you that told him to
Speaker 1: keep his legs shut? At one point I thought that
Speaker 1: was iconic. It was like Marshall Heines on Australian Idol
Speaker 1: years ago. She was like, listen, honey, put your legs together.
Speaker 1: Was that you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was very Miles legs.
Speaker 1: Them together, you know, And it's not something that we
Speaker 1: really hear often with people saying that to men. But
Speaker 1: do you know what one of my pet peeves is
Speaker 1: men that men spread? Do you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like men that sit there with their legs really spread.
Speaker 1: I'm always like, put that away. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you watch enough television or was watch as much as
Speaker 1: I do, but hay much Blake did it on Celebrity
Speaker 1: goggle Box and I got five minutes into the show
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, that's not it.
Speaker 3: You're taking far too much space less damn legs.
Speaker 1: What made you reluctant to join rejoin the graduates? Like
Speaker 1: I felt like you you didn't want to do.
Speaker 2: That, Like the graduates started because we were so tired
Speaker 2: of all of it was really nice at the start
Speaker 2: because we were just communicating. We were making all these
Speaker 2: plans and we would make like real brash decisions, but
Speaker 2: it was all like a good amount of communication.
Speaker 3: For example, like Asian.
Speaker 2: And I had raging insomnia at the start of you know,
Speaker 2: when we were on Brains and it was literally just
Speaker 2: the two of us talking of four hours because we
Speaker 2: couldn't go to sleep. And then you tack in miles
Speaker 2: to the conversation later on and we're like, oh, great,
Speaker 2: were oh I think quite similar.
Speaker 3: This is really fun.
Speaker 1: All of those people are way smarter than me, Like
Speaker 1: you're all above my pay grade.
Speaker 2: They're ridiculously smart, Like oh my god, like what are you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sure add me to the list.
Speaker 2: But like, I think the relationship breakdown was definitely like
Speaker 2: AJ and I like at the start we would communicate
Speaker 2: really well, and then he would sort of get this
Speaker 2: like wild idea and I'd go, no, AJ, that's not
Speaker 2: going to work because X, Y Z number exists, or
Speaker 2: how do you know, because I'm working with those numbers,
Speaker 2: you're not going to get them. And he's going, Okay, no,
Speaker 2: actually I can get them, and i'ment, no, you can't,
Speaker 2: Please don't do that, and then he would go do it,
Speaker 2: and I went, I told you so. I literally took
Speaker 2: it like this was like you know him. When he
Speaker 2: wanted to get out Logan, he came to me and
Speaker 2: I said, AJ, you don't have the numbers.
Speaker 3: Well, how do you know?
Speaker 2: Because I'm working with all four of the girls that
Speaker 2: you want to work with, they are not going to
Speaker 2: turn Oh but I can do it. Okay, go do it.
Speaker 2: Then comes back I can't do it. I'm like, great,
Speaker 2: now you've added yourself. Now I've got to save your
Speaker 2: ass by giving this like Kokammy story to Logan and
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, like I've not heard this at all. He's
Speaker 3: not going.
Speaker 1: For you, except that that's all he's been talking about
Speaker 1: and wrote a novel about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then like we get to the next stage
Speaker 2: where Miles and I had a really good working relationship
Speaker 2: and the graduates had like, you know, almost seventy five
Speaker 2: percent formed, where Miles was like, great, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you all of the information that's going from this
Speaker 2: bomb squad. So when AJ pulled this out of hat,
Speaker 2: I already knew it existed, and I'm like, well, Miles
Speaker 2: gave me all this information. You didn't who I've been
Speaker 2: talking to since like our twenty four of this game.
Speaker 2: It's okay, okay, cool, We're stacking more information. Then we
Speaker 2: get to tribe swap and I'm like, you're very like
Speaker 2: the hostage plan was just a conversation where Agent I
Speaker 2: went who do you want to get rid of? And
Speaker 2: both of us said the same names together and we
Speaker 2: went great. And then I said, okay, what if we
Speaker 2: offer up saving Ursula as like a like a peace
Speaker 2: offering to the likes of PD. And then AJ was like, well,
Speaker 2: why don't we just like reverse it? Make hold them
Speaker 2: hostage and then do it. And I'm like, well that
Speaker 2: sounds kind of comes, sounds kind of fun. All right, cool,
Speaker 2: let's do it, but let's like, let's maybe just set
Speaker 2: the scene a bit, create a bit of mood lighting,
Speaker 2: fake thunder, and then do it as opposed to just
Speaker 2: like hauling off straight in there being like I'm walking
Speaker 2: them off a plank and I'm like, okay, now everyone's mad.
Speaker 3: Okay, And then like.
Speaker 2: You'd get like filter fed bits of information, being like, man,
Speaker 2: I had this conversation with you, and now I'm getting
Speaker 2: like five different versions of you creating this back so
Speaker 2: like and then I'm stubborn and petty, and sometimes if
Speaker 2: I see an opportunity to be stubborn and petty, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take it, just because that's who I am as
Speaker 2: a person. Like I don't like like at that point,
Speaker 2: it was just pissing off AJ, because I could piss
Speaker 2: off AJ and he would be just mad at me
Speaker 2: because it's irrational and logical, and he'd just be like.
Speaker 3: Why are you doing this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'm doing it because it's funny. He's
Speaker 2: like yeah, but I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I'm like and like yeah, of course, like you know,
Speaker 3: like you don't like you can.
Speaker 2: Tell people you have an idol and whatever, but like
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, cool, lo, I was hanging fruit.
Speaker 2: I'm going to grab onto this and keep hanging onto
Speaker 2: this because nah. But yeah, maybe maybe that was sort
Speaker 2: of like my downfall as well. But yeah, that's why
Speaker 2: I like the graduates was like such a finnicky position
Speaker 2: for me, because I was just like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I can trust you enough anymore. And as much
Speaker 2: as you say all these things to me, I see
Speaker 2: you forming these relationships with like Kate and Morgan. I
Speaker 2: see you going to other people like you're creating an
Speaker 2: escape route, and like, understandably.
Speaker 1: So was I.
Speaker 2: So if you're escaping everyone exactly, I'm like, you're creating
Speaker 2: a life raft out of the graduates. I'm creating a
Speaker 2: life raft out of the red graduates. So ipso facto,
Speaker 2: this is just convenience.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting as well is that I feel
Speaker 1: like with Kaylin and Kristen, they're like house pets that
Speaker 1: have now become like a problem. You know, when you
Speaker 1: go to people's houses and you realize that the pets
Speaker 1: are at the top of the food chain. You're like,
Speaker 1: how has this happened? He's a golden retriever and she's
Speaker 1: a kitten, like and they're somehow now contenders to win.
Speaker 3: It's Kaitlyn's game has been really understated.
Speaker 2: To be honest, like until I saw well, like the
Speaker 2: last episode where he's actively telling Jlpeter not tell us
Speaker 2: how far he was ahead of, you know, in the
Speaker 2: puzzle challenge, Like you know, Miles and I had the
Speaker 2: chat and we were like, I thought he was about
Speaker 2: a challenge like path puzzles we took like twenty five
Speaker 2: minutes because you know, I was like, I know how
Speaker 2: long I took to throw that down like sandbag, So I.
Speaker 3: Was like, why is he taking so long to finish
Speaker 3: this stupid puzzle?
Speaker 2: But now that was like an absolutely calculated move, and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, well.
Speaker 3: Damn Klen okay.
Speaker 2: But then obviously, like when we were in Brains one
Speaker 2: point oh and Tribes what, there were moments where Klen
Speaker 2: would literally go out for a snorkel when we were
Speaker 2: doing Stratchat like would just be like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you guys, give me a name and then just go
Speaker 2: off into the ocean and we're going But oh, okay,
Speaker 2: whether that's sort of like cool, you know, like absolute
Speaker 2: confidence and credit to him if you're like, I am
Speaker 2: so confident in my social ability, I do not even
Speaker 2: need to go into a stratchat.
Speaker 3: I don't need it. I'm that comfortable.
Speaker 1: What's interesting as well to me is about what you
Speaker 1: accuse people of doing in this game as a negative
Speaker 1: is something that everyone does by nature. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: accusing aj of changing plans, but you were changing plans
Speaker 1: as well, just about labeling people, I think and hoping
Speaker 1: that those labels don't fall on you.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, no, absolutely, and it's completely contradictory. Like
Speaker 2: the reason like I'm getting so upset is because, like
Speaker 2: I'm trying to counter all of the moves that he's making, and.
Speaker 3: It's very hard to predict when he keeps changing things,
Speaker 3: so I can't counter them. So I'm say, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Just do something in a straight line so I can
Speaker 2: actually mounted like a defense to this. In the same
Speaker 2: way that you know, when Paul got voted out, like
Speaker 2: you just have a sneaky suspicion, and which I did.
Speaker 2: I was like, Myles is going to try something, and
Speaker 2: Kristen's going to be the target because he doesn't want
Speaker 2: us dragging someone to the end. He wants it to
Speaker 2: be like this epic battle royality the end. That's what
Speaker 2: Miles and AJ want. He doesn't want Christen to get dragged.
Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, cool, you're going to
Speaker 2: target Kristen. Okay, okay, okay, but's this is so frustrating. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: whose numbers are you going to get xyz? Okay, we
Speaker 2: need to pitch this. Your brain hurts and keep hurting
Speaker 2: as well. And yeah, so of course, like, yeah, cool,
Speaker 2: call me a hypocrite. Yeah cool, I won't plan ABC,
Speaker 2: but I will also do you know, be one point
Speaker 2: five and be three point four. But that's just it.
Speaker 2: And at that point I was ready to run any
Speaker 2: smear campaign against Aj at that you.
Speaker 1: Know you're on the jury. Yeah, it's time to forget
Speaker 1: about the way in which your game sort of fell
Speaker 1: apart and start now admiring people for the way in
Speaker 1: which they destroyed you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and like AJ is an incredible adversary. The reason,
Speaker 2: like I had so much fun being irritated at him
Speaker 2: was it was just great to just throw stuff at
Speaker 2: him and you'd be like, a right, cool, great, follow
Speaker 2: that back and you're like, oh damn, he's good again,
Speaker 2: and it's fun, Like mil is fun to watch as well,
Speaker 2: and like that's why the jury is so great because
Speaker 2: you just get to watch it all unfold and go
Speaker 2: this is fantastic or oh my god, Karen's flaming out, idiot.
Speaker 1: The looks on everyone's face is Paully looks really bitchy
Speaker 1: at that jury, Like I don't know what was going on?
Speaker 1: Do you reckon that they cut up some really bitchy
Speaker 1: cups of him to make him look like that, Like
Speaker 1: he looked really mad, I know.
Speaker 3: But he's so hot when he looks mad.
Speaker 1: I call him sexy Jafar. How does that work for you? Yes?
Speaker 3: Or like you know Scarf from Lion King, like really the.
Speaker 1: Same person I didn't even like where we gives me
Speaker 1: like really.
Speaker 2: Hot in a kind of angry, sadistic way, and you're like,
Speaker 2: why am I attracted to you right now? I did
Speaker 2: not want to be You're mad at me, but like
Speaker 2: I kind of like it.
Speaker 1: I like it out of time, so like I've really
Speaker 1: got to wrap things up. But I ask everyone at
Speaker 1: the end of the podcast, like what is something from
Speaker 1: behind the scenes and I think at this point not
Speaker 1: everyone watches the clip that we get to see of
Speaker 1: you returning to the jury. So I guess a good
Speaker 1: question of behind the scenes for a lot of people
Speaker 1: would be what's happening when you get there? What was
Speaker 1: the dynamic? Like when you were reunited with Paulie.
Speaker 2: And Laura, Like, oh, I was like high key stressed
Speaker 2: because I went, oh, god, Laura's going to like put
Speaker 2: a hex on me, and like Paulie's gonna, I don't know,
Speaker 2: spit into my wine or whatever.
Speaker 3: And they just gave me straight up.
Speaker 2: Poker face as I sort of like what you know
Speaker 2: that mean where you're like, hey, guys, how you doing
Speaker 2: that one? And then it was just stone cold and
Speaker 2: then like Laura broke immediately, and then all I could
Speaker 2: like my favorite food like is carbonara and it was
Speaker 2: in front of me and I could not get more
Speaker 2: than like three fork falls in because like Laura was like, no,
Speaker 2: tell me this, break this down for me.
Speaker 3: What happened? Who told you? Blah blah this happened? X
Speaker 3: y Z what happened?
Speaker 2: Because you know, Paullie, bless his heart, was kept out
Speaker 2: of the vote so many times, like Man's had no.
Speaker 1: Clue he was out of the vote. So she's like, oh, hi, Paulie,
Speaker 1: how are you. I can't unpack anything because you had
Speaker 1: no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Laura was just like tell me everything, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was just sort of like me, like not
Speaker 2: eating a single thing and just Laura. But yeah, so
Speaker 2: much fun. We had so much fun. And that's the
Speaker 2: really important part of this scenario is that it's one
Speaker 2: of the best social experiments on the planet where we
Speaker 2: get to do ridiculous things to each other, lie, cheap, manipulate, steel,
Speaker 2: be an huge hypocrite and then magically we finished this.
Speaker 2: We come back to Melbourne and like, Laura is one
Speaker 2: of my closest friends. I love that girl to this.
Speaker 2: She has the keys to like the spare keys to
Speaker 2: my house. That's how close we are.
Speaker 1: You're never going to do anything in your life like
Speaker 1: this again. It's like going to far away the faraway tree,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, things that
Speaker 1: we've learned about what's not appropriate, what's not social norms,
Speaker 1: and how to behave throw that at the window. Backstab, lie,
Speaker 1: cheat and steal, and you may be celebrated as a
Speaker 1: Survivor Icon. I want you to do me a huge favor,
Speaker 1: and that is that what you did on this show
Speaker 1: created a TV moment that people will talk about for
Speaker 1: a very long time at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: That is worth celebrating. I think you were fantastic in
Speaker 1: that and it was probably my favorite five minutes of
Speaker 1: this season. So while you didn't win, I'm sure you'll
Speaker 1: understand this the way that I do when it comes
Speaker 1: to applying and going on these shows. You gave us something.
Speaker 1: He gave us something to watch and it was amazing,
Speaker 1: and I want you to be proud of it and
Speaker 1: never back down and avoid the comment section.
Speaker 3: I will no thank you.
Speaker 2: That's actually really nice, and I think that's what everyone's
Speaker 2: just sort of tried to tell me. They're like, you're
Speaker 2: really zoning in on the ones that are calling you
Speaker 2: more on and like an idiot, and they're like.
Speaker 3: I did you have fun doing that? I was like, yes,
Speaker 3: I did. I had so much fun.
Speaker 2: Getting voted out was probably the best part of the
Speaker 2: game for me.
Speaker 1: That's all the matters. Those people are weird, And someone
Speaker 1: told me, for every one person that is bothered to
Speaker 1: write something nasty about you, there's one hundred people out
Speaker 1: there that loved and are obsessed with you. And I really,
Speaker 1: over the years of commenting on television, believe that theory
Speaker 1: because imagine the sort of person that has bothered to
Speaker 1: write something. And you know what, the people that get
Speaker 1: trolled the most, they get the ones that penetrate the
Speaker 1: mindset more, do you know what I mean? Like they
Speaker 1: upset the manutia or whatever it's called. They like get
Speaker 1: in there. And that's why these weirdos go because they
Speaker 1: know they couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, Like, I know the relationships I
Speaker 2: have with these like my castmates, like and as much
Speaker 2: as they're like, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, they're being thir meat to each other, how
Speaker 3: dare she say that to him? I'm like, no, sure,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I got like stupidly drunk ones and tore my miniscas
Speaker 2: and who did I call at midnight? A J Like
Speaker 2: you know, that's one of my closest friends.
Speaker 1: I just ride back every now and again. I never
Speaker 1: ride back to anyone. I'm not saying that, but I
Speaker 1: ride back to them every now and again. I say,
Speaker 1: open up a window and let some airing. I've been
Speaker 1: sitting there in that dark room. Oh man, people, but
Speaker 1: you'll never meet I mean, come on, oh no.
Speaker 2: My thing is now to just send them to link
Speaker 2: to the Australian Survivor casting like link, just being like all.
Speaker 3: Right, here you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how well will you go? You won't even
Speaker 1: make it past the written application because you can't spell.
Speaker 1: The people that would write the nastiest stuff about me,
Speaker 1: the one thing they all have in common was bad spelling,
Speaker 1: gramar and a bad attitude.
Speaker 3: Here's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, enjoy chatting to the media and joy this moment.
Speaker 1: It is so fantastic and you were so fantastic And
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for being so generous
Speaker 1: and chatting with me today and unpacking your experience.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for taking the time. It was
Speaker 3: really fun.