WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Finding The One & Gender Disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen

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<v Speaker 1>live on the Free iHeart app A good Pickup with

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<v Speaker 1>Britt Hockley and Laura Burn Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>What our windows down?

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<v Speaker 3>That's my world? Risen the dust only good bugle down.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done March, but yeah, I'm not our.

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<v Speaker 3>Big get and what I want it don't matter where

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<v Speaker 3>does this is the pickup?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, it's the pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.

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<v Speaker 4>I am so excited I'm just gonna have I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this is so excited that you am spilt frape right

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<v Speaker 4>down in the front of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't contain it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually going to bypass straight past that, but

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>I wore an all white outfit today and the second

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<v Speaker 4>I walked in here, I had a mocker iced frape.

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<v Speaker 1>So market, a massive frozen frapee. Great, yeah, delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>Spilt it all down my top within thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>The worst parties I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just kept talking to everyone like normal, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>all laughing at me because I have coffee all down with.

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<v Speaker 2>No one laughed. Everyone just looked at you, like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, we all looked at you like, Ah, that's so,

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<v Speaker 1>that's miserable.

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<v Speaker 3>I just turned my shirt around backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I think you were very resourceful, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>not why you're excited.

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<v Speaker 2>But thank you. We kind of took a tangent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just like, you know, this is our show, Laura.

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<v Speaker 4>We can highlight the things that we want to highlight,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just want to have like a proud fiance

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<v Speaker 4>moment my fiance Ben this weekend. He lives over in Italy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a football player over there. He plays for a

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<v Speaker 4>team called Genoa. But he's playing the biggest match of

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<v Speaker 4>his career this Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyone that's listening that knows football.

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<v Speaker 4>He's in Serie A, that's the league, which is like

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<v Speaker 4>the Italian Premier League, I guess, and he's playing Napali,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the number one team. They're about to win

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<v Speaker 4>the championship. It's a stadium of like sixty or seventy

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<v Speaker 4>thousand people. It's like a really huge deal and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just super excited and super proud of him. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to get up at like three am so I can watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Him from here.

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<v Speaker 4>And these are the moments that is like, I'm so

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<v Speaker 4>thrilled and so proud on one hand.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, these are the sad moments where you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not there for his biggest moments. I don't get

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<v Speaker 4>to actually see it. I get to like cheer alongside,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in the TV.

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<v Speaker 2>With every TV.

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<v Speaker 3>But also like, I hope he doesn't hear this. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not expected that.

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<v Speaker 4>They win, Like you know, when they're playing one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best teams ever, it's like no one's expecting them

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<v Speaker 4>to beat them. But on the off chance that he does,

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<v Speaker 4>I won't be there.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's it's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just I'm really thrilled for him, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to like put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is time for something we do every Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is ask Guncut. It has become as staple

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<v Speaker 1>of our podcast life on Cut, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you guys call in with your deep, you're dark and.

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<v Speaker 1>You're burning questions and even though we are completely unqualified,

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<v Speaker 1>we do our best answer them.

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<v Speaker 3>We have it Emily on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Emily, Hi Emily, what's the problem?

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<v Speaker 5>Hi guys. Okay, So basically I was a guy I

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<v Speaker 5>dated maybe like three or four years ago. We were

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<v Speaker 5>quite serious, but like we never like were boyfriend and girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 5>and due to like careers and stuff in the sense

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<v Speaker 5>that like I work a normal job and he would

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<v Speaker 5>work weird hours. It just never eventuated and my work

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<v Speaker 5>took me other places. Anyways, I just have never been

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<v Speaker 5>able to stop thinking about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you think he's kind of the one that got away.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And the worst bit about it is I'm never

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<v Speaker 5>one to like I'm such a girl's girl, right, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I would never do anything. But he has a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 5>now and they've been together for a year, and I

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<v Speaker 5>thought it would just go away, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you dated other people and then it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>feel right? Are you in a relationship now? Doesn't feel right?

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<v Speaker 5>I have dated other people in the past, I have

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<v Speaker 5>had a relationship in those three to four years, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I was still thinking about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any contact with him?

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<v Speaker 5>This is so bad. I swear, I swear such a

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<v Speaker 5>girl's girl, like I would never move in on him,

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<v Speaker 5>but we still chat. Yeah, here and there about like

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<v Speaker 5>whatever's happening in the world, and like things I know

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<v Speaker 5>he likes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so does he I know he likes?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he ever give you the indication like does he

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<v Speaker 1>ever overstep the mark or is he giving you the

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<v Speaker 1>indication that like, had it been different, he would have

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to work out.

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<v Speaker 5>So basically, back in October, we had like a drunk

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<v Speaker 5>phone call and he was in a relationship at this time,

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<v Speaker 5>and he said, oh, like we just didn't work out

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<v Speaker 5>because our life past didn't go that way. And he

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<v Speaker 5>still thinks of me nicely, but he tells his partner everything,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's completely open with her and trusting with her.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would never do anything to hurt a relationship

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<v Speaker 5>or I wouldn't even like let him do something to

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<v Speaker 5>affect that, because I know what that could mean if

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<v Speaker 5>I were to get in a relationship with him and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily, Yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also just think that sometimes the fantasy is

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<v Speaker 1>better than the real life. Like I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>can build it up in your head and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the one that's got away if we had another chance,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's my person.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes they do get away.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's not your person.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a girlfriend, So if he wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>your person, he would free up. He's a calendar that

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't done that and he's definitely stayed committed in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I kind of think.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't much that you can do, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I would be putting myself in the firing

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<v Speaker 1>line of telling him how I feel when he's in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't agree with me, for it's looking at

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<v Speaker 2>me like.

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<v Speaker 3>She's nos, this doesn't happen. No, I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't happen often.

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<v Speaker 4>I genuinely don't know what to tell you, because I

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<v Speaker 4>am like a quite a romantic and I like the

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<v Speaker 4>idea of like I do believe that there can be

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<v Speaker 4>right people for each other at wrong times, like I

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<v Speaker 4>know people wherever it's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in that.

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<v Speaker 4>I do believe in going after what she want, but

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<v Speaker 4>obviously within reason. I don't mean that about like being

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<v Speaker 4>a homewreck and breaking up relationships, but it's if you

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely believe someone is the one that makes me be

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<v Speaker 4>Like if he was in a relationship, I'd be like

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<v Speaker 4>turn up to his house, like tell him. If he

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<v Speaker 4>says he's not interested, it's fine, move on. At least

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<v Speaker 4>you know that and you can put it to bed.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what I think he do. It's wrong to

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<v Speaker 4>try and break up a relationship, is wrong to do

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong thing and emotionally cheat and cheat and things

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<v Speaker 4>like that. You are well, I'm just saying she has

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<v Speaker 4>not stopped thinking about him. She loves him, she thinks

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<v Speaker 4>he's the one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I would say, get a dog.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I would say, hey, really, honestly, I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>we can maintain this friendship anymore. I still have feelings

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<v Speaker 4>for you, so I don't think it's right, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to do the right thing by your relationship and me.

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<v Speaker 3>That way, you are being a good person and pulling back.

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<v Speaker 4>As long as you commit to pulling back, you've also

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<v Speaker 4>let him know why, which is like, my feelings are

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<v Speaker 4>still there.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he can go and do with it what he will.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll either feel nothing for you and say like I

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<v Speaker 4>understand and get on with your life, or he'll be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>I've always felt the same way and didn't think she did,

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<v Speaker 4>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Something will come Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem I have with it is that no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you do, even if you do throw that out

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<v Speaker 1>there and he goes and turns around and says like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh now I have confused feelings the amount of like

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth, because no one's going to receive that

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<v Speaker 1>information and then instantly go, you know what, I have

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<v Speaker 1>those feelings for you too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to break up.

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<v Speaker 1>With my girlfriend, move out of the house, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we can start a consensual relationship together.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna cheat. I'm going to be a stand

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<v Speaker 2>up guy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nowhere in between except for it to either be

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<v Speaker 1>he agrees, and then there's cheating for him to like

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<v Speaker 1>get the validation that he needs in order to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship. He's not going to from a one line

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<v Speaker 1>of you saying he's still got feelings, break up with

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<v Speaker 1>his current girlfriend and move out of the house they

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<v Speaker 1>live in. He's going to need way more validation, which

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<v Speaker 1>just means you're putting yourself in a drama field unnecessary

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with someone who has got a relationship and I

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<v Speaker 1>just think you don't need this in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she does need him in his life. He's teguin,

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<v Speaker 3>he's her penguin.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's more than one person for everyone you meet

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<v Speaker 1>someone else, Emily.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you going to do? Whose advice you're taking?

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<v Speaker 3>Laws of life?

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<v Speaker 5>Part of me is steel, Like do I just suffer

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<v Speaker 5>in silence. Just keep waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't keep waiting, Just don't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily date other.

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<v Speaker 3>People I have?

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<v Speaker 5>I have none of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Emily, I do not envy you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with this, and make sure you us a

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<v Speaker 1>call back and tell us how it all goes.

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<v Speaker 5>I will, Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Emily.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I hate Laura that we even have to have

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<v Speaker 4>these conversations. We are talking about something far more serious

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<v Speaker 4>than we usually talk about on the pickup. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think it is so important that people are across this,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess this is a bit of a PSA

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<v Speaker 4>for anyone right now. The Australian Federal Police have just

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<v Speaker 4>come out and issued a warning about the increase in

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<v Speaker 4>drugs hitting our shore in Australia. They are colloquially known

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<v Speaker 4>as fantasy, but otherwise known as a date rape drug.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this year alone, more than three point eight tons

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<v Speaker 4>of this drug, which we can call fantasy, have been

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<v Speaker 4>seized so far. So three point eight tons seized. Imagine

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<v Speaker 4>how you haven't been seized? Like, imagine how much is

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<v Speaker 4>making it onto ashures. And we're seeing an increase in

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<v Speaker 4>sexual assault cases from these date rape drugs and the

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<v Speaker 4>reason I wanted to talk about this is because it

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<v Speaker 4>personally has happened.

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<v Speaker 3>To me three times.

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<v Speaker 4>I have been drugged three times and by all different

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of people.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what I think is important.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people think in terms of this drug

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<v Speaker 4>or this happening to them, this incident's happening to them,

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<v Speaker 4>that it's usually by a stranger at a bar that

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<v Speaker 4>slips something into your drink and that's it. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>know them, and that does happen absolutely, but often this

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<v Speaker 4>happens by people that you know as well, which is

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<v Speaker 4>so sad to think about. But I want people to

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<v Speaker 4>be super aware that it is not just a stranger

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<v Speaker 4>in the bar when you're out that you have to

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<v Speaker 4>be aware of. It's not just like making sure your

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<v Speaker 4>hand is over your drink. It's being hyper aware of

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<v Speaker 4>the increase that this is happening and also what to

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<v Speaker 4>look out for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, firstly horrifying that like a federal warning

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<v Speaker 1>has to be released in the first place, but we

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking about it. I mean, the Pickup team

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<v Speaker 1>is a one hundred percent female team. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's four of us that work in this team, and

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<v Speaker 1>of the four of us, three of us have experienced

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<v Speaker 1>an incident where someone has used or tried to use

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<v Speaker 1>one of these date drugs against us. You've been incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>generous in sharing the things that have happened to you

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, and how this has been something that

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't just happened once, but it's happened three times to

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<v Speaker 1>you my experience of it, I feel so lucky that

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<v Speaker 1>I caught the person who was doing it in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of them making my drink. And this wasn't a stranger.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at a friend's house. This was my ex

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend at the times best friend who I had lived with.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even fully comprehend what it was that was

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<v Speaker 1>going on until pretty shortly afterwards. I knew it was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't actually realize his intention, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't put two and two together because it was

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<v Speaker 1>someone who I trusted so much, and I left and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt so weird about the whole thing. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't until the next day, when I was completely sober,

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<v Speaker 1>that I realized actually how close I came to something

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<v Speaker 1>that could have been so much more horrendous. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think for anyone, like if you have daughters, who are

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<v Speaker 1>going out and they are you know, potentially mixing with

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<v Speaker 1>new people. If this isn't something that you've thought about,

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<v Speaker 1>it is just so crazily prevalent, and I hate that

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be an issue and a warning for women.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it does happen to men as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can happen in same sex relationships, but the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of sexual assaults that happened to women off the

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<v Speaker 1>back of this, and the problem is is it's so

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<v Speaker 1>underreported because when it does happen, you wake up not

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what it is that you've just experienced. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we really wanted to drive this message home because it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we all here care about so deeply, and

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<v Speaker 1>if that can make someone a little bit more alert

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<v Speaker 1>to it and save them from an experience that could

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<v Speaker 1>be truly horrifying, then like it's, you know, an important

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<v Speaker 1>conversation to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to take it a.

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<v Speaker 4>Step further and tell you what it feels like and

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<v Speaker 4>what's signed to look out for, so you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>it's happening to you, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to tell you what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>So it has happened to me with someone from a

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<v Speaker 4>bar like the barman it has happened with someone I

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<v Speaker 4>was on a date with from like an online dating.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember the site, but it was just online dating.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been speaking for him for a week, met up

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<v Speaker 4>with him. He did it on the first date. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's happened with someone.

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<v Speaker 3>That I knew.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I'm very lucky by the third time it happened,

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<v Speaker 4>I say lucky. I'm unlucky, but I'm lucky that I

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<v Speaker 4>was able to recognize what was happening to me because

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<v Speaker 4>it had happened so many times, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You could get out and get to safety.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people say, like, if you start to

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<v Speaker 4>feel unwell, like make sure you get yourself to a hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>In my experience, you do not have time. Like it

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<v Speaker 4>happens so quickly, it is scary. It goes from zero

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<v Speaker 4>to one hundred in sometimes potentially minutes. If you are out,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to tell someone immediately that what is happening

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<v Speaker 4>to you or what you think is happening to you,

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<v Speaker 4>and get help. So if you are out at a bar,

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<v Speaker 4>the second you don't feel right, you go to someone

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<v Speaker 4>behind the bar, or you go to a friend or

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<v Speaker 4>whoever it is, and you just tell them and one

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<v Speaker 4>time I was with my sister.

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<v Speaker 3>We were overseas and I straightway.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the second time, so I was pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>something was happening, and I said to her, something's happening

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<v Speaker 4>to me. I think I've been drugged. Win need to

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<v Speaker 4>go now. And minutes later she was physically she's smaller

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<v Speaker 4>than me. I was unconscious on the street. She was

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<v Speaker 4>like dragging me into our hostel. If I hadn't had

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<v Speaker 4>the recognition to know something was wrong and tell her,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where I would be or what would

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<v Speaker 4>have happened, but I just want you to recognize that

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<v Speaker 4>it is for me, and I can only speak about

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<v Speaker 4>my experiences, but they've all felt pretty the same. You

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<v Speaker 4>feel very, very drunk, very quickly, but it's not a

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<v Speaker 4>normal drunk, so you start.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, the first sign was like when I would

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<v Speaker 3>move my.

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<v Speaker 4>Head to the side just to look, everything was taking

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<v Speaker 4>too long to catch up, so my sight wasn't moving

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<v Speaker 4>in line with my head, if that makes sense, and

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<v Speaker 4>it started to get blurry.

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<v Speaker 2>If your vision was blurred.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, And then that is literally You don't really have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of time to think of other signs and

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<v Speaker 4>symptoms because it just starts to happen, you just start

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<v Speaker 4>to feel really unwell and really really intoxicated. So the

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<v Speaker 4>second you feel that, all I can say is just

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<v Speaker 4>tell someone that you're weird what is happening, because it's

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<v Speaker 4>only minutes away from you not being in control of

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<v Speaker 4>your own body.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>That we are having these conversations and even the way

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about it now, in my mind, I'm back

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<v Speaker 4>in that situation trying to remember what it felt like,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's horrific.

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<v Speaker 3>It's truly truly horrific, and I don't want anyone to

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<v Speaker 3>ever experience it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it's important now that we know the

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<v Speaker 4>level of drugs that are coming in and the level

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<v Speaker 4>of people that are doing this for sexual assault, also

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<v Speaker 4>for theft, like some people are just using it to

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<v Speaker 4>rob people. I mean, that would be the best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 4>But please, just like, talk to your daughters about it,

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<v Speaker 4>talk to your sons about it, talk to your friends

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<v Speaker 4>about it. Be hyper aware of what can happen, and

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<v Speaker 4>make sure everyone knows what to do in that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look, if this news has affected you in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, help is always available. And why don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to respect or you can contact Lifeline twenty four seven

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<v Speaker 1>on one three double one one four. Look, if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were listening to the show last week, you may

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<v Speaker 1>have heard that we did our gender reveal live here

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<v Speaker 1>on the pickup for baby be number three.

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<v Speaker 3>Very exciting and.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a we're having another girl.

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<v Speaker 4>A girl.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having three girls and look, I am so so thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even said it on the show, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>really funny when you already have two kids that are

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<v Speaker 1>the same gender, because people instantly assume that the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why you're going for number three is because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a boy. And like, it got announced and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all really excited, and we shared it on socials

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<v Speaker 1>and I was reading through some of the comments and

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many people who were like, well, maybe when

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<v Speaker 1>you have number four, you'll get the boy.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a tricky one because there's no there's no more.

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<v Speaker 1>And secondly, we didn't have number three because we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have a boy. We had number three because of

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<v Speaker 1>the experience of being parents and how much we love

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<v Speaker 1>having kids.

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<v Speaker 2>But gender was not a big factor.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke about it a bit the other week, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably a slightly bigger factor for Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he cared a bit more than what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>He had this idea of potentially having a boy and

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<v Speaker 1>doing all the things that you do with a boy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going to the football and whatnot. And actually

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking to Woody about it earlier in the

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<v Speaker 1>week as well, and he had that similar feeling. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can honestly say for me that I didn't care

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<v Speaker 1>about the gender. But after the show, we were so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to go home and talk to the girls because

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<v Speaker 1>our little girls didn't know whether we were having a

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<v Speaker 1>boy or a girl either. And it's really funny because

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<v Speaker 1>Marley originally was like one hundred percent and she's our oldest.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I want a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be a girl, and one another sister,

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<v Speaker 1>Lola as well, like only wanted a sister. And then

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, Molly had a dream this one night

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<v Speaker 1>and she woke up balling her eyes out from the

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<v Speaker 1>dream and she said, Mommy, you're having a boy and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to be a boy. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was so upset anyway, went back to sleep. Then she

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<v Speaker 1>woke up the next morning and she was like, Mommy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having a boy. And she was cool with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then what she wanted switched, and so for the

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<v Speaker 1>last sort of like eight weeks, she's been like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>having a boy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're having a boy. It's a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we sat them down and we told them than,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, we're not having a boy, we're having a

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<v Speaker 1>little girl. And Lola was so excited, and Marley first

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<v Speaker 1>out crying.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>She was really.

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<v Speaker 1>Really upset because she had had it in her head

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<v Speaker 1>and she was so convinced that it was absolutely going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Did she say why she wanted to be a boy?

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<v Speaker 2>She did, Yeah, we got to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 1>She was so upset that I had to sit her

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<v Speaker 1>down once she like stopped hyperventilating, and I was like, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on, Like why, Like, it's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, you've got a little sister. You love

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<v Speaker 1>your little sister. You guys are best friends. Now you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have another little sister. And she said, mommy, I

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<v Speaker 1>realized it means I'm gonna have to share more things.

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<v Speaker 2>She cracked it. She fully understands that.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, oh, if we have another girl in

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<v Speaker 1>the house, that doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Well for me, I mean it's fair.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is something to take into consideration as

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<v Speaker 4>a five year old, like you are high, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't want to share it. She already has to share

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<v Speaker 1>with his sister. She shares a bedroom, she shares a bed,

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<v Speaker 1>they share everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I shared a room my entire life with

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<v Speaker 4>my sister and we turned out so close, Like we

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<v Speaker 4>were in a room until I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you guys go sharing a room for all

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<v Speaker 1>that time though? Like were you amicable or did you

0:18:20.139 --> 0:18:21.699
<v Speaker 1>guys go through a period where you wanted to kill

0:18:21.699 --> 0:18:22.059
<v Speaker 1>each other?

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<v Speaker 3>It went through?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, we were always really really good friends. Really

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<v Speaker 4>closes two and a half year is difference. We're still

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<v Speaker 4>best is now as adults. But you know when it changed.

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<v Speaker 4>It changed when I was starting to become like a young.

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<v Speaker 3>Adult, like you were cool.

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<v Speaker 4>She was the kid, well you just want your different.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like the little nerd burger at primary school

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like cool. I was like thirteen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 4>getting my period, like coming into a different cool cool,

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<v Speaker 4>like coming into.

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<v Speaker 3>A different time. And that's when I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>you're cramping my style.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you've ever had real style brute.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like what Sorry, But I also shared a

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<v Speaker 1>room with my sister until I was about thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have this.

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<v Speaker 1>Really vivid memory of when we must have been around

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<v Speaker 1>ten years old, and we would fight. Like my sister

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<v Speaker 1>and I are best of friends now, we could not closer.

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<v Speaker 1>But as kids, we fought so hard about everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were the hair pulling, hair brush throwing, screaming at

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<v Speaker 1>each other kind of kids, like it was rat bags.

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<v Speaker 1>And my mom came in and she had bought duct tape,

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<v Speaker 1>and she duct taped I'm talking like head height from

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<v Speaker 1>one side of the wall all the way down the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up the other side of the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>with a little walkway from where we could walk into

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<v Speaker 1>the room. So each kid had their own side of

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<v Speaker 1>the room and you were not allowed to cross on

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<v Speaker 1>to the other side. That is so extreme it had

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<v Speaker 1>to We had it in place for probably about two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks until we were able to get along again.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember why, We'll find me you are an animal. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we were terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking forward to that phase of parenting because

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<v Speaker 1>I think you get back what you gave as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's coful, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have been bad. Sober. Well, we're happy for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope she's come around full circle. I hope she's

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<v Speaker 3>on board now.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, she's getting better. She's getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>She made me a really cute card yesterday of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just the shape of a soccer ball and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a baby my belly, so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think she's just Bristoke.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said I can't wait to get the baby out,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounded ominous.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to get the baby out.

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<v Speaker 1>It don't sound a bit chucky ish, all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the end of the show for us.