1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the final episode of the back Row Seats. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm Bella, one of your hosts, and this is my 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: co host of course. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: This week we chat about. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: All the semi final action, New Zealand vers Canada, England 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: b France, Bears chats to some fans from the crowd, 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and listen on as we discussed the newly transformed World 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: XP competition and the upcoming Rugby World Cup Final. 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Well, we've both kind of been doing the same thing 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: this week. I put up with our mates obviously, came 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: back a couple of our mates, fair few are still traveling, 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: but Mayor g Fred and Anna Belle all back in town. 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: So you have belly Buck got Bellie back, thank god. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: I cauught up with g Fred, went for a swim, 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 3: got to tan as per usual. 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: As per she was already looking pretty tan. 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, she went and definitely went in the solarium. 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah obviously I don't condone that, but whatever whatever works. 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: They're not illegal over there. 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: And had coffee with Mays on Friday as well. So yeah, 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: three of three of the Walleroos girls are back in town. 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: There's a couple more haven't caught up with. We've actually 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: been away since they've got back, but I've been very busy. 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, our schedule has been. 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: But they are glad to be home and awesome to 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: see them and hear about their experience. Obviously still a 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: bit weird for us, I guess, but no, good to 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: have them back and get them in, get them in 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: some good spirits and let them know how proud we 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: are of them. And then did we go off. 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: To let Well Friday, we flew to Narrabra on a 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: private jet. Yeah we did a jet bitch. 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that was really fun. Off to Narrabra. 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: A different role for me this week. I was actually 35 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: filling in for the Aaron Morton as manager probably the 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: probably won't get that gigget after the weekend. 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: Look not very impressed with the managerials. 38 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: I was good at the setup, just the cleanup. I 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: was too keen to have a beer with the girls. 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: I think I forgot. 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't there as a player, so didn't do the cleanup. 42 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: But no, it was good fun and how did you 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: find the experience? Obviously the side was really young, but yeah, 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: it was really good. 45 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: Went out to narrabriye, got there on Friday, went straight 46 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: to a school visit just so like, I just love 47 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: going out to I guess community rugby and seeing how 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: much they all love it. I was, you know, you 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: feel like such a wrong starf signing everyone's faces and 50 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: now I just had a really good time at the school. 51 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: And then we had like a street party which was 52 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: really cool and just cool for the town I think. 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: And love band, yeah, love band. And then Saturday got 54 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: into the game. Yeah it was. It was really hard game. 55 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: Queensland played really well. Pick ups to them, but obviously 56 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: we came out with big job. But yeah, no, it 57 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: was really good. Good to see heaps of young girls 58 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: coming through the Tars system and also the Queensland system. 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 3: Obviously I'm not too sure about all of that, but yeah, 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: good to see heepsy young girls getting it real good 61 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: crack and gosh, there was some talent out there. We 62 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: seemed to get ahead when I came off the field, 63 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: so maybe some of the times, but no, it was 64 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: really good, really fun. We won the boys and the 65 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: under nineteens boys one and our sevens girls won as well, 66 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: So a big weekend for you. So was rugby, but 67 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: in rugby in general, it was really fun. 68 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rugby was the winner winner. Yeah, it was awesome. 69 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Get out to narrabriy see, that's a family, lot's a 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: friend and big shout. 71 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: Out to Martha Harvey and Sid Harvey, all the Harvey family. 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: One of the girls that plays in our team and 73 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 3: one of the boys that plays in the men's team. 74 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: They're from there and they both had a cracker game. 75 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: And then to top the night off, their dad and 76 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: dad renowned Denis renowned Narrabria man was on the piano 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: at the pub just to top it off with his 78 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: tars hat on. It was just a cracka day for 79 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: their family. Probably won't forget it. So no, that was that. 80 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: Enough about us. Back into the rugby semifinals. Massive weekend 81 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: that has passed. I did wake up in Narrabri at 82 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: four am and watch this game. Was texting you frantically 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: from the next room. Canada feated New Zealand thirty four 84 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: nineteen and England held off France thirty five seventeen. 85 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, massive results. 86 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Obviously we'll get into the games a bit later, but 87 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: we kind of said it last week about Canada. They're 88 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: very hard to stop once they get that roll. On 89 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: the semi final against the Black Ferns was no different. 90 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: They were just ruthless. I would say four tries in 91 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the first half the Black Ferns just just couldn't stop them. 92 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: The speed at what they play, which they play, they 93 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: are phenomenal. Like I actually thought so I was rooming 94 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: with Rosie Ferguson and I was watching on my phone 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: on silent or I had my AirPods in I dead 96 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: set thought that I had pressed one point five speed 97 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: because I and first of all, not very good with technology. 98 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: But it was so quick, like the rock speed. Just 99 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: the way that they moved was unbelievable. I just yeah, yeah. 100 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: We like spoke about their forward pack, but I think 101 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: as a whole like they just play footy like ye. 102 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just so they're so good to watch. 103 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: It's really refreshing to watch. They obviously have strong set piece, 104 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: but their bore skills from one to twenty three, it 105 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: looks like they're just fifteen footy players on a field man, 106 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: bang bang. They know what each other's doing. The Goody 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: is a freak. 108 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: Gotta be in contention for World Rugby Player of the Year. 109 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: I know she missed a lot of. 110 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Footy this year, but ship, the way she's carrying that 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: team on her back, and and I probably didn't didn't 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: get enough credit, but she got Player of the match. 113 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: I think the way she gets the ball out the 114 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: rock speed. 115 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just are a well oiled machine. 116 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: And I think for New Zealand, for the Black Ferns, 117 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: they have probably realized that they can't just rely on 118 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: talent anymore like on natural talent. Sorry, and I'm not 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: saying that they don't work hard, because I know that 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: they work very hard, but they everyone's caught up to 121 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: them in terms of talent and they're going to need 122 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: to look outside the box and think outside the box 123 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: to move forward because and doing wrong. Carver Awsome Baker 124 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: and was a ladasat whole m. 125 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: M. 126 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. 127 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 2: They both unreal. 128 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: But I think that they're I mean, again, not the coach, 129 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: but I think that their game plan might have been 130 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: a bit wrong. Who knows if it would have changed 131 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: how how they won, but I think they should have 132 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: based it around those two. They are unreal footy players 133 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: and they just carried all day and they didn't give up. 134 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, they were outclass on the day, 135 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: and they were out smarter but I think the Black 136 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: fans are, Oh they're obviously devastated and you know, devastating 137 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: result for them, and you always kind of feel your 138 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: sisters across the time by them all the time. 139 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: But we know quite well played, Like I played over 140 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: there with a lot of those girls, the Bremna sisters, 141 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: they're like amazing people as well. So it's it is 142 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: you do feel for them because they're probably in a 143 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: similar boat to Australia, like playing less. They play what 144 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: four games are super opeky. They only played four test 145 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: matches this year and then to what go and compete 146 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: against Canada England like the top teams that play year 147 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: in year out. So yeah, feel for them, but yeah, 148 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: full credit to Canada. They are just they they're doing 149 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: what they said they were going to do and I 150 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: really hope they can cause enough this weekend. 151 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, as for. 152 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: The other semi, which was England versus France, the La 153 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: Crunch La Crunch, as it's famously called, England held off France. 154 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: It was seven five at halftime and it was close, 155 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: a lot closer than I expected to be honest. 156 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, considering like the experience that France were missing. 157 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're missing the experience of their captain, Manet Fellow. 158 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: We knew it was a very inexperienced French side. They 159 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: did do well to hold England off and keep the 160 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: scores close, and I think they'll be disappointed that they 161 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: let the schooline get away from them in the second half. 162 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: But England, yeah, I'm not convinced by them. I know 163 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: they have their set piece to fall back on and 164 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: their twenty two conversion rate it's the best of the competition. Like, 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: once they are in that twenty two, they are so 166 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: efficient and they every time they're in there, they basically 167 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: come away with points. So when the shape isn't going 168 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: right for them, they can look to their set peace 169 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: and it always wins them games. So they do have 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: that really strong piece and that strong kicking game. I 171 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: think that creates them that territory. 172 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. 173 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced by them, and I think they'll have 174 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: a big task ahead first in this Canadian team, and 175 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: we'll chat about the Canada's discipline later in the lens. Look, 176 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: but if Canada can have that same discipline, I don't 177 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: see how England can can get into into Canada's half 178 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: other than you know what I mean, Like, obviously teams 179 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: get into half with your lack of discipline, so their 180 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: kicking game is to England's kicking game is going to 181 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: really need to be strong. And the lacks of mo 182 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Hunt controlling the tempo Zoe ait Ten their forward pack, 183 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I think possibly could be out muscled by the Canadian 184 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: forward pack. 185 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting. I also think that just on 186 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: France on that game, the last three World Cups, they 187 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: have lost three semi finals, like is there something in that? 188 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: Are they like is it in their heads? Are they 189 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: getting there and they're not getting the last bit done? 190 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: Are they just getting outdone at last minute? Are they 191 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: not fit or not? Like not, you know, they're not lasting. 192 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: It is survival of the fittest the world. It takes 193 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: its toll seriously, But I just think three World Cups 194 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: in a row, that's twelve years of not making the 195 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: final but making the semi finals. Something's got to give. 196 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: So and I'd be guarded playing that third v fourth playoff. 197 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: You have to train that whole week. 198 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: But I think for France, like the last World Cup 199 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: in twenty two, they missed that penalty from right in front, 200 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: so they probably had the ascendency that whole game and 201 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: then you know, as the kiwis do they really fight 202 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: back in the second half. But yeah, really disappointing for them, 203 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: but I think they'll learn from it. I think they 204 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: had a very up and down year, slow starts in 205 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: their six Nations games. Obviously they won the other ones, 206 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: but against England they started slow, then start. 207 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: To come back. 208 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: They got that forty nail thumping prior to the World 209 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Cup against England. Yeah, maybe that was in their head 210 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: a bit that they didn't have what it takes to 211 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: compete with them for. 212 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: The full eighty. So yeah, I guess back to the 213 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: drawing board for France again, or I'll talk about this 214 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Canadian team. Yes, so the Canadian team. 215 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: Prior to the tournament's kickoff, they started a crowd fund 216 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: me with the target being one million dollars called Mission 217 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: Win World Cup twenty twenty five. Now, the Rugby Canada 218 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: CEO Nathan Bombrie has said that he doesn't see it 219 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: as a women's rugby problem the funding more that this 220 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: is kind of where rugby is at in Canada. They 221 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: don't have the established major revenue streams such as England. Ireland, 222 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: New Zealand and Australia all have due to their strong 223 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: men's team and the competitions that those countries run. But 224 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: the crowdfund me came from the head coach, Kevin Ruette, 225 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: needing an extra one million to support Canada's preparation leading 226 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: into the World Cup. So a lot of these Canadians 227 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: train and play and play full time in the England 228 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: Premier women's camp or in France, or a full time 229 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: with the Canadian seven's team. So I think people see 230 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: it as oh, Canada aren't supporting their women, that they're 231 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: not giving them money. I think they're literally giving them 232 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: everything they have. They don't have that same revenue as 233 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: the other top nations do. 234 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think, yeah, it's an interesting conversation. So 235 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: like a big credit to the Canadian players. They make 236 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: him do with what they have, and they obviously made 237 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: a commitment to each other and to Canada to go 238 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: out and do whatever it takes World Cup. But I 239 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: think that like in saying what you're saying, you know, 240 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: everyone's thinking, oh my god, I can't believe that they're 241 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: not paid and they're not professional. Well more of their 242 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: players are professional than Australia Professional New Zealand. 243 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, they play we. 244 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: Current did to be research, so I think I was 245 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: twenty of the thirty two play in the PWL, which 246 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: is the England Premier Women's comp so all the French comp. 247 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: So twenty two of the twenty or twenty two of 248 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: those players are playing eighteen games of professional rugby and 249 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: then into test matches compared to say the Wallaroos girls 250 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: or the Black Fans girls who are playing five to 251 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: six pending if you're making finals, as we spoke about 252 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: last week. So in my point of view, I mean 253 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: it's hard to kind of compare professionalism et cetera. But 254 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: I think that people think they're an underdog because they 255 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: don't have a big men's program or they don't have 256 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: a big RF you or big rugby. Australia, they have 257 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: what they have and they're kind of smart and they've 258 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: like kind of. 259 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: Outsourced and I guess they I don't know what the 260 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: model is, but they let their players play overseas because 261 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: they don't have a comp to play in. So I 262 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: think were you talking about that? England have kind of 263 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: set it up for every other country because their players 264 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: can just go in like. 265 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: You've played there, Kaitlin, He's played the Emily Chancellor's played there, 266 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: Annibal CODI went to Lightning, like there's the pedoi we 267 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: are at the moment, Like alonamr went over there because 268 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: she wanted to play fifteens, like Helen Nelson, the Scottish 269 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: ten she plays in the Peterborough. Like everyone from other 270 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: countries is kind of benefiting from England's really good women's 271 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: rugby culture, I guess, or standards, and it will be 272 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: interesting to see like do they start you know, cutting 273 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: people or limiting. 274 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: People and well it's already capped, so you have to 275 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: be internationally capped to play there. All hold an English passport. 276 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: So it's also interesting because like what's that doing for 277 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: the Canadian girls rugby? Like that is that good? I 278 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: mean I think that success that the top is always good. 279 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: So is that creating more young girls to play in Canada? 280 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: I'm not too sure, something that we could probably look into, 281 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: but yeah, I just think it's an interesting piece and 282 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: just how people use their language. Like I felt like 283 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: the story is kind of this this team that's unpaid 284 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: and have done a gofund me are beating the top 285 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: teams in the world where it's like. 286 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: We don't get us wrong, they are very under resource 287 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: under resource. 288 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, as you say, they're getting all the resources 289 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: that Canada rugby has to offer. Is that enough? Absolutely not. 290 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just think it's interesting, interesting, I guess 291 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: set up. 292 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: And we are seeing more and more, like we know 293 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: the scot I'm not fully across what happening in Scotland, 294 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: but I know a lot of those girls aren't being 295 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: offered like recontracted, or they're making them play in the 296 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: Scotland comp which isn't established. 297 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: So is that gonna. 298 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Obviously setting it up for the future, but is that 299 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: going to harm them in the current? Yeah, I'm not 300 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: fully across it. I know the Irfu Island they have 301 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: a women's comp now it's obviously not as strong because 302 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of their players still play in the prem 303 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: So it will be interesting to see what these nations 304 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: start to do, especially you know Scotland, Wales, Ireland, who 305 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: aren't as strong and end as big as England, if 306 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: they can compete with those teams and really you know, 307 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: create those pathways in their own backyard. Because I think 308 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: for us, like we have superw but if I want 309 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: to get better at footy. I'm going overseas. Yeah. 310 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: I think Also that was a kind of evident with 311 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: the Black Ferns is this is the first time that 312 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: they've really had NROLW competing with them. They've got a 313 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: Warrior's team and they don't have well, they do have 314 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: the best thirty two kiwis right now, but for the 315 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: next World Cup, will they have the best thirty two 316 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: rugby players in that squad or will they be in 317 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: another sport because they're getting paid more so, Like michaeleb 318 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: Break and Blood, for example, She's obviously hasn't played fifteens, 319 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: but she's a two time gold medalist Olympian sevens. She's 320 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: now pregnant, but she went to the Warriors. Like are 321 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: we going to see Caitlin Varcolo go back to rugby league? 322 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: Are we going to see Kayper Wilson go back to 323 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: like go to rugby league. They haven't had that to 324 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: deal with before, so even more reason why they should. 325 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Also with New Zealand, like we're seeing a lot more 326 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: of their Black Ferns playing the prem so like Amy 327 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Rule signed with the Chiefs, Alana Bremner, she's gone to 328 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: ealing and I'm sure more will be announced probably after 329 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: this World Cup, so. 330 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: Managers will be on working hard this week. 331 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: I really hope like for our sake and New Zealand's sake, 332 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: we can eventually merge super W and super Opeky because 333 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: we do have so much talent in Australia and in 334 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: New Zealand. But for us we copeting with a fl W, 335 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: n l W, super W. We have so many sports, 336 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: which is amazing. It's so many no I think, yeah, 337 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: like they really need to make We spoke about this 338 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: last week, but they really need to make it enticing 339 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: for for Super W players to stay and play Super 340 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: W because like I love rugby so much, I want 341 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: to stay and play rugby. Like I don't want to 342 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: go and play league. I don't want all that contact. 343 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: I want to play rugby. We want to play rugby. 344 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: We want to play good rugby and have a good 345 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: competition and make it really enticing for the girls to 346 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: stay and not go to league because rugby is a 347 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: global sport. You don't get it anywhere else as I 348 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: can't remember who said it, but. 349 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: Rugby lea you want to go to Brisbane or you 350 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: want to go to metle far exactly. Well, I don't 351 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: want to go to Bristol. 352 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: I want to go You could go anywhere with rugby, 353 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: is what we're saying. Anyway, Anyways, back to it, Yeah, 354 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: let's move on to the lens. Look the game changing 355 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: moment this week. The game changing moment came from the 356 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: semifinal matchup of Canada versus Black Ferns. 357 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: Now. 358 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of rugby and out we've watched 359 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: roder rugby in our time, and not once have we 360 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: ever seen a team not concede a penalty until the 361 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: sixty first minute. So Canada in the Rugby World Cup 362 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: semi final managed to not concede a penalty until the 363 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: sixty first minute. 364 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: New Zealand, on the other hand, were very ill disciplined, 365 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 3: which Canada pounced on their mistakes and ultimately got field position. 366 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 3: I think the penalty count definitely helps a team get 367 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: acendency and field position, and once the Canadian's got their 368 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: role on, they were hard to stop. I'm sorry, but 369 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: sixty one minutes with no penalties is absolutely outrageous. So 370 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: obviously no comparison, but was playing a now right on 371 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: the weekend, we gave it to our first penalty in 372 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: about three minutes and I literally was on the field 373 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: and I thought to myself, how how on earth did 374 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: they have that kind of discipline? And it's honestly just 375 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: the like it's got to be a master stoke stroke, 376 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 3: sorry from Kevin coach Kevin keV like that is obviously 377 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: it's the game changing moment is the sixty one minutes 378 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: like that, And to be honest, it's kind of changing 379 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: the whole game. It's not just like that one game 380 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: that it's effecting because you really count on penalties to get. 381 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: Up the field so one hundred percent. 382 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Like for Wartars this year, the only reason teams ever 383 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: got into our half was because we were so ill disciplined. 384 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: And I think for the Black Ferns, like they only 385 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: gave away ten penalties or so, which in the in 386 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: a game of rugby doesn't seem like a lot. But 387 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: against a team like Canada, who once they get that 388 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: role on the ref's on their side, they're. 389 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: Winning those fifty to fifties. 390 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: And you know, people love to complain about the ref, 391 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: but if you have the ascendency, you're going to get 392 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the penalty count. And that's what happened from the very 393 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: first minute till the sixty first minute, So I wonder 394 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: if that was just if that's if they spoke about 395 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: it pregame. 396 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: I just because it's fair. 397 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: Black Ferns can score from anywhere, So shout out to 398 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: Canada's defense as well, Like they really held off that 399 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: that Black Fern's team until the sixty first minutes. 400 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: So now we thought we would talk this week about 401 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: the new World XV competition. So we've spoken a little 402 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: bit today about games, domestic competitions, test matches, et cetera. 403 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: But some really big news has dropped out of World 404 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: Rugby over the weekend. The women's international calendar has been 405 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: completely reshaped with the launch of the new and improved 406 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: World XV global series. So a quick rewind. World XV 407 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: kicked off in twenty twenty three with tea with three 408 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: tiers World XV one, two and three, which each had 409 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: six teams. Qualifications was through competitions like Pacific four and 410 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: the Six Nations, with your finishing spot determining which tier 411 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: you went into. 412 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: So take the wild Rose for example. 413 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, we finished third in the Pack four, 414 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: which put us in World XV one alongside the top 415 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: three six nation sides and the other top four pack 416 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: nation the other top pack four nations. But in twenty 417 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: twenty four, after finishing last in the pack four, we 418 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: dropped down to World XV two. Under the old format, 419 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: tournaments were hosted in single destinations like Cape Town, where 420 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: we ended up versing Scotland and Wales in front of 421 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: small crowds, so that meant limited atmosphere, no real revenue 422 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: opportunities for unions, and very little commercial growth. And like 423 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: we always found it weird being in a different country 424 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: versing not the host country. So what the first year 425 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: in New Zealand reversed England and Wales and it was 426 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: kind of just like no one's at the game, no 427 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: one really cares, like what's the ye, there's no you 428 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: can't really build up to it. 429 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, we played like we played. For example, we 430 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: played France in dun Eden, which is south, the very 431 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: south of New Zealand. It was one of my favorite games. 432 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: Is actually the last game I played for law is, 433 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: but one of my favorite games my whole career. We 434 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: beat France, a top four team, which we were just 435 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: not meant to do, and it was amazing, Like it 436 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: was so sick, and there. 437 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: Was probably fifty people probably tho bit more. 438 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, five hundred people in the crowd because who in 439 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: the South Island of New Zealand in the middle of 440 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: winter is coming on which Australia as friends. 441 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, not even my family game. Yeah literally 442 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: so yeah. 443 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: So from twenty twenty six through to the twenty twenty 444 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: nine Rugby World Cup, all of that changes. The top 445 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: twelve nations will now play in a home and away format, 446 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: giving unions a proper chance to host test s matches, 447 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: grow fan bases and build commercial partnerships. 448 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 3: Nations rank thirteenth to eighteenth will still play in a 449 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: centralized tournament funded by World Rugby, which guarantees them regular 450 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: features too. 451 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: Now, this new structure gives unions a chance to finally 452 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: treat women's internationals like true test matches, with more games, 453 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: more visibility, more revenue, and more consistency, leading into the 454 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine Women's Rugby World Cup, hosted here in Australia. 455 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is just like I think it's 456 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: really good. Like, first of all, for Australia, we have 457 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: the next World Cup, So if we played the next 458 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: two World XV's in another country who's watching. So I 459 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 3: think for US as a country and a sporting body, 460 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: I guess such a opportunity. 461 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: Now. 462 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: The next thing is just to nail those timings. Put 463 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: them on a time and a day where people are available. 464 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: Don't put them on three o'clock on Saturdays when everyone's 465 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: at sport themselves. But I just think, like really good 466 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: foresight from world rugby and probably really good reviewing watching 467 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 3: other countries play other countries in a different country. 468 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: It's not the same vibe as a World Cup. So like, 469 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: obviously England are doing amazing right now with their crowds 470 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: and they've really really done that well. So I think 471 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: right now Australia has the opportunity to kind of get 472 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: people interested in rugby and then have that same success 473 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: as we're seeing in England. 474 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: And I think as well, like it kind of breaks 475 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: it down more and it makes things I'm not sure 476 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: what the right word is, more a bit more like 477 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: death behind what you're playing for. So like, for example, 478 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: in the men's test matches, they play for the Nelson 479 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 3: Mandela Cup, all the Freedom Cup, you know, South Africa 480 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: are playing for something like that, Like that's a massive 481 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: deal for them, and obviously he's an amazing leader and 482 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: he did everything he did. They're playing for something that's 483 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: worse means something to them. You know, the Spring Tour 484 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: is like a big deal. 485 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: Like the Blood Slope, the Blood Slope, we've got lower 486 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: lower Raley. 487 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: We want more rivalries, but yeah, you want morerivalries. 488 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: Like create if we play some of every year, Like 489 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: what are we playing for? Like let's find a cup, 490 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: Let's find some influential people that mean something to those 491 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: two countries, and let's play for that. And I think 492 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: that by doing something like this you can break it 493 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: down and I think that that's like, I mean, I'm 494 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: not a marketing guru, but I think that that's part 495 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: of it. Like World XV just kind of feels like 496 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: you're just playing for what not much. 497 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: You go into another country to play. 498 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like if you're playing for you know 499 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: the yeah green meaning yeah. 500 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, serviously playing for your country at any stage is amazing. 501 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: But I mean we're not saying that. 502 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: I mean more for the fans is what I mean. 503 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: And creates that drama, that tension, you know, the rivalry story. Yeah. Yeah, 504 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: So up to the World Rugby excited. 505 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll get plays on them. 506 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Another week of BES on. 507 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 3: Tour now, as the Waller is out and BES is 508 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 3: limited to Walleroo family and friends. Our correspondent Bez was 509 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: in Bristol to watch the Black Ferns versus Canada and 510 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: managed to chat to some supporters from the crowd. 511 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: We're here in Bristol, semi final number one between at 512 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: the Black Fern's end Canada. 513 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: Amazing and I have here. 514 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: With me Jack, Sorry, and. 515 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: Also tell me where you're from in Canada. 516 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: Edmonton, Alberta, Victoria scene Yeah, Brownie. 517 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: Blue Dick area, Melanie, Edminton, Alberta. 518 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: Fantastic. 519 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: And tell me who do you think is going to 520 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: break over the game for Canada tonight? 521 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: Oh I'm not sure? 522 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my my favorite is cor again for sure? 523 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: Go again for sure? Like Ol tap. 524 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 4: Favorite amazing and Canada. 525 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: Sorry, there's some marker. 526 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 4: Oh there's some more, come on over, guys. 527 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: And then. 528 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: Of Australia, Yeah, fantastic. 529 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: We're right, she's marrying Australia, is she? That's fantasty. Alright, 530 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: it's getting unhinged. 531 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna here we are. 532 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: And who are you most worried? 533 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: About for the Black Ferns or Portsia and rename version 534 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: of Porsche. So you guys are a regmutine from Canada. 535 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: Awesome? 536 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 3: And one last, I'm just gonna go around. I want 537 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: to score prettitioner from everyone. 538 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 4: Okay, ready go twenty five twenty for Canada, seventeen fourteen 539 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: for Canada. 540 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: She took mine, fifteen seventeen for Canada, twenty one seventeen Canada. 541 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 3: Twenty one nineteen Canada. 542 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: Who I'm going? 543 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: Twenty eight, twenty five Canada, forty. 544 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: Thirty nine Canada. 545 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: Oh, thirty one to twenty one Canada. Fantastic. And I 546 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: do have one last question. I'm loving these hats. Is 547 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: the beaver the national animal of Canada? No, so please 548 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: explain said hat to be It's. 549 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: One of our animals. But the mooster there at number one, and. 550 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: I guess the moose is too big for your hat? 551 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. 552 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 4: Bes Here again from Bristol. I've run into some family 553 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 4: members of some of the Black Ferns girls. What's your 554 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: name and who are here supporting? 555 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: I'm Roberta and I'm here to support my niece bas senior. 556 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 4: Amazing and look at this epic banner like that is 557 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: so good. Tell me excited for tonight, super. 558 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 5: Excited to see woman's game on display. Yeah, just happy 559 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 5: to be here. 560 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: We're happy to be here. 561 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: And who's going to score the first try for the 562 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: Ferns tonight? 563 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 5: Man? I think I'm going to give it to the 564 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 5: fourth pack. I'm gonna give it to Tania number three. 565 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 4: And who and who are you worried about from the 566 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: Canada team? 567 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 5: I think all of them. They are a great team. 568 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: And I think, yeah, you can't undoos to meet them. 569 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a really great game. But I 570 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: hope we take the win. 571 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're quietly going perhapecific nighbors too, just quietly. And finally, 572 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: let's give us a score prediction. 573 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 3: What do you reckon? 574 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be twenty nine to wow, blackburn. 575 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: Lot of black ferns. 576 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 3: All right, moving into the preview of the World Cup Final, 577 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: England versus Canada, number one in the world versus number 578 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: two in the world. How do we see this game 579 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: playing out? For me, will England's rush defense be able 580 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: to stop Canada's relentless attack? 581 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: And for me, I think how to Canada's back three 582 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: compare with England's I think the center matchup is probably 583 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: more even with the Canada centers probably outperforming Meg Jones 584 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: and tat Hurt. I think at times throughout this tournament, I. 585 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: Mean dre intrigued to see if England can go up 586 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: another gear or if the pressure of a home final 587 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: will be too much for them. Like I think that 588 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: the speed that Canada's played out, We've talked about that, 589 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: and you know they're going into this but not much 590 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: to lose. You know, they've got not much to lose. 591 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: A home World Cup is big, it is big. We've 592 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: seen what they've done over there has been amazing. We've 593 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: seen all of the stuff going on, the roses up 594 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: to London, eye, the all of the past players being there, 595 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: so much media everything in a World Cup final, not 596 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: that I've played in one, but the amount of pressure 597 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: that is on them, the amount of extra media, the 598 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: amount of extra people, eyes, extra cameras, extra everything going 599 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: down to like people asking for tickets, Like I mean 600 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: again not comparing, but like when we play test match, 601 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: we get given four tickets, two to four tickets, and 602 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: like the people that message you, you feel obliged to 603 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: like sort them out, Like first of all your parents, 604 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: your family, whatever, and then other people you're scrounging around. 605 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Imagine if you're playing at a home World Cup, people asking, oh, 606 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: you know, you've got tickets for your grandma this that, 607 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: just like simple things like that, that's like in their 608 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: heads that you know, it doesn't sound like much, but 609 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: it all adds up. And I just think I'm so 610 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: interested to see if they can step it up and 611 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: if they can put all that behind them. 612 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Cooker like, it's the biggest game of their careers right now, 613 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: because obviously they lost in the dying minutes against New 614 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Zealand the last World Cup. They haven't lost since, so 615 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: is that like, I don't know we have I don't 616 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: know if we've spoken about it, but is that bad 617 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: for them that they haven't. 618 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: They had lost, so they had a thirty game winning 619 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: streak into the last World Cup final and then they 620 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 3: lost that World Cup final. Right now they're on a 621 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: thirty two game winning streak and this is the thirty third. 622 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I think there is a fair 623 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: few different players there. 624 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: Mo Hunt wasn't at the last World Cup, got left out, 625 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: so her experience is going to be valuable. 626 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: I mean Carlie Packer. 627 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she hasn't been getting much game tied much. 628 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: And you know, they seem to be young and rejuvenated 629 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: and they seem to be having fun with it, but 630 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: sometimes Instagram isn't reality. 631 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just, yeah, I really have a good mental 632 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: skills coach, and they have the most resources out of 633 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: every team. They've got a private chef crying out, so 634 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: I think they'll have every resource available to them. And yeah, 635 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: it'll be very intriguing to see if they can live 636 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: up to that and win a home World Cup at 637 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: Alliance tickin'am. 638 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: So what do you think? 639 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: What's your I think I don't see how England can 640 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: stop Canada. I know they're very strong defensively, but we 641 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: saw Scotland they managed to create a few opportunities and 642 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Canada they're obviously able to execute a little bit better 643 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: than Scotland and they really need to value possession not 644 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: turn the ball over as much, and then yeah, I 645 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: can see them beating England. I just, I just I 646 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: think the way Canada are playing, they're confident, As you said, 647 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: they have nothing to lose. Their forward pack is gonna 648 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: out muscle them, out run them, outspeed them. 649 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 650 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: It'll just be whether the backs, I think, because obviously 651 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: England had that really strong kicking game with Mo Hunt 652 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: and Zoe Harrison, and I haven't seen much kicking for 653 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: Territory from Canada. They like to get into a few 654 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: kick battles, but I think with Ellie kild at the back, 655 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: you don't want to give her the ball, You don't 656 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: want to give her any time and space because we 657 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: know what she can create. And then you've obviously got 658 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: Mo Hunt probably one of the best kickers in women's rugby, 659 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: and then Zoe who has such a long boot on earth. 660 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll just be interesting to see if they can, 661 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, like match it with that. But I think 662 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: the forward pack, if they get that roll on, they 663 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: won't need. 664 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: To go to their boot. 665 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: Right my school prediction, I think England are going to 666 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: win and I think it's going to be thirty two 667 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: to twenty nine. 668 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: Who's going to be your first triscorer, Abbi. 669 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: Dow She didn't get the ball on the weekend much. 670 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: I reckon Amy Cocaine rolling more. Yeah, that's what they go. 671 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: Back to, like you just set piece wins rugby and 672 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: England do it best and they've always had that to 673 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: fall back on. Yeah, but if Canada can have that 674 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: discipline they had and not let England into their half, 675 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: who knows. 676 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gone for the underdogs, gone for Canada. 677 00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: No girl, I think it'll be twenty eight twenty one. 678 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: Sophie de Goody no misses. 679 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: She doesn't miss that girl. Gosh. And there also is 680 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: another game. There is another game. 681 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: There is another game, sorry, the third place playoff New 682 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Zealand versus France. Now, would you rather lose a World 683 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: Cup final or play in the. 684 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: Third place playoff? Oh? 685 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I personally would rather lose a World Cup final. No 686 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: one gives a shit about the third place playoff game. 687 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: Think that once you're retired and in hindsight, you'd rather 688 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: lose the World Cup final. But it's all you're also 689 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: guaranteed to medal. 690 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. 691 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: But that's true. Yeah, I mean, yeah, i'd rather I 692 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: think in like looking back, you know, whenever that time comes, 693 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: I think you'd prefer to come second. But I think 694 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: at the time you'd rather win a third place game. 695 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: But New Zealand have never been beaten, Sorry not never. 696 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: New Zealand haven't been beaten at a World Cup since 697 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, no one game, So their legacy does come 698 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: to an end. Did come to an end on the weekend, 699 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: and it will be a really hard week to get 700 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: up for. And they'll say it's still means something and 701 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: it will, but it will be a pretty tough week, 702 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: like you still have to train and prepare, like it's 703 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: another game, but it's not the final. It's not what 704 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 3: you wanted. It's tough, everyone's exhausted, everyone's missing home, and 705 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: you don't have that carrot at the end anymore. It's 706 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: you shift, your focus has to shift. But I think 707 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: New Zealand will beat France. 708 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but just on that, I think for New Zealand 709 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: going into the World Cup, they probably thought their chances 710 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: would have been better than France to make that final. 711 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: So for France, they're probably like, oh shit, we got 712 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: so close. So maybe they'll see this game as a 713 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: real opportunity to get one over New Zealand because we 714 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: did see them. When when was it when did they 715 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: beat New Zealand twenty twenty three World XB France? Yeah, France, Yeah, 716 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: they beat New Zealand once before, so I wonder if 717 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: they'll have that same kind of confidence and they're really 718 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: an experience, so they really are just going to go 719 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: out there and have that French flare. 720 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 3: It would be a really good game to watch because 721 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 3: it's not like less serious, but like, yeah, I feel 722 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 3: like people are just going to be chucking the ball 723 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: around and trying to do stuff and like it's kind 724 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 3: of a little bit less on the line. 725 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: And I wonder iful see Georgia Miller back in the fold. 726 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if they like, obviously she's one player, but 727 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: she does have that creative spark and there's a lot 728 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: of like a lot of the New Zealand's attack, especially 729 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: off line out launch, came through Georgia Miller. So they 730 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: probably were really missing her. We didn't even talk about it, 731 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: but they probably were really missing her. Yeah on the weekend, 732 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: but maybe a little too late. But anyways, third place playoff, Hey, 733 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: third place playoff. 734 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: Now you might have heard when say at the start 735 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: that this is our last episode. So before we finish up, 736 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: we just wanted to say, firstly, a big thank you 737 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 3: to chloeen Bez for running with our crazy idea and 738 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: helping us every step of the way. We literally texted 739 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: Chloe at ten pm on a Saturday night after we 740 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: had both been dropped and said we have a crazy idea, 741 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: and she, Her and Bez have literally helped us with 742 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: everything from learning how to turn on a mic to 743 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 3: you knowloading, to everything in between. 744 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: And we. 745 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: Seriously thank you guys so much for this opportunity and 746 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 3: to Sow the producer, thanks for all your expertise because 747 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: we have no idea what we're doing. And secondly to 748 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 3: you guys the listeners, thanks for coming with us on 749 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: this journey to support our walleries during this World Cup 750 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: and also supporting us both as we tried to find 751 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 3: something positive in a very tough time. Hopefully you've learned 752 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: a thing or two and are now big fans of 753 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: the game that we both love. 754 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: And the horse. 755 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say a big thank you to 756 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: you as well, because obviously this has been a really 757 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: dark time for myself personally this whole year. 758 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: It's been pretty shit. 759 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: I can't lie, but I think just having you and 760 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: like knowing you've gone through similars the probably the exact 761 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: same stuff I've gone through, and to just really have 762 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: someone that understands what you're going through on the field, 763 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: off the field, and just always being there at all 764 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: hours of the day to answer my phone calls, answer 765 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: me crying, just to be there, drop everything and literally 766 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: be there for me throughout this whole year has been Yeah, 767 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: something that I really thank you for it. You've probably 768 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: gotten me through some of the darkest times of my 769 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: life this year, and yeah, for that, I'll always be 770 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: really grateful. 771 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: For you and thanks you. 772 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: This has just been so much fun and I hope 773 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: we can hopefully continue to do something like this similar 774 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: please please, Yeah, I just wanted to thank you and 775 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: as well as cooing birds. 776 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, Sam goes to you. 777 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: Lenny. Probably different, a bit of a different relationship. Me 778 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 3: and Lenn have besties, but always pushing each other, but 779 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: always there for each other both ways. So love your heaps, 780 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 3: peace out. 781 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening everyone, and if you. 782 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: Want to hear more from us, just keep castling Comma 783 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: say bring the back group back. 784 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: Bye bye. 785 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening. If you got something out 786 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: of this episode, I would absolutely love it if you 787 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 3: could send it on to one person who you think 788 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 3: might enjoy it. Otherwise, subscribe, give us a review, and 789 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 3: make sure you follow us on Instagram at the Female 790 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: Athlete project to stay up to date with podcast 791 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 4: Episodes, merch drops, and of course news and stories about 792 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 4: epic female athletes.