Speaker 1: We should finish this pizza before Trevor gets here, because Jesus,
Speaker 1: he will hoover.
Speaker 2: That You've eaten about two thirds of the.
Speaker 1: He will hoover it. He'll be like, he'll be like,
Speaker 1: what's happening?
Speaker 3: Boys typically listen. I know for a fact that Paul
Speaker 3: bought this watch.
Speaker 1: What Trevor does. He's going to put this pizza on
Speaker 1: like it came up plate, chop it up with a
Speaker 1: credit card and snuffer like Nadia Bartow. He's an impression
Speaker 1: of Trevor going a subway eating a foot long sub Next.
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. God, I come here for this? What do
Speaker 3: I come here?
Speaker 1: That's I've missed you. That's why you've g got a
Speaker 1: beautiful watch?
Speaker 3: Why do I come here? That's with things? With things, No,
Speaker 3: I think I can talk about WHI things. Nova is
Speaker 3: what it is. It's beautiful, but it's a smart watch
Speaker 3: SOG and pleasure monitoring and watch. Yeah, it's funny. I
Speaker 3: was at Abu Dhabi airport a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: and I was looking because I always look at watches
Speaker 3: because I'm an idiot and have bought some. And I
Speaker 3: was like, they didn't have a Tag store. I'm a tagman,
Speaker 3: but they had an Omega store. That's I was just
Speaker 3: entertaining the dude making things. I was gonna buy a watch.
Speaker 3: I was never gonna buy one, but I looked at
Speaker 3: one and it's Fedinkham look like this, you know, metal
Speaker 3: band blue, and.
Speaker 1: I thought, what are you're going for? What were you
Speaker 1: looking at?
Speaker 3: It was? I don't know what it was, but I
Speaker 3: was just rarer.
Speaker 1: You look at that thing. Oh yeah, that would be
Speaker 1: it would be like the.
Speaker 3: For a Mega. It was something like a Sea Master
Speaker 3: or something anyway, looked like that. It was like seven
Speaker 3: grand euro And I get back open this thing from
Speaker 3: with ings and I'm like, shit, that looks like the
Speaker 3: watch I just looked at. I'm very happy with it.
Speaker 3: So you don't have to get a full touch screen
Speaker 3: that's actually smart watch, because the.
Speaker 2: Thing I hate about the Apple Watch is that it's
Speaker 2: an Apple watch and it's.
Speaker 3: Not really Everyone knows you're wearing an Apple watch. They
Speaker 3: know you're in the Apple ecosystem, and let's be real,
Speaker 3: most people don't do anything with this mart watch other
Speaker 3: than look at the time. So this is a beautiful
Speaker 3: analog watch.
Speaker 2: Or midway through a conversation fucking lifted up and read
Speaker 2: a message in front of you, which I think is
Speaker 2: the rudest fucking thing in the world.
Speaker 3: Very rude.
Speaker 1: It's like when you go out to buy a Porsche
Speaker 1: but instead you just end up with a Coopra Born.
Speaker 3: I would never go out and buy a push a
Speaker 3: buy a Coopra. Yeah, I still love that car quickly
Speaker 3: as well. Just on the Porsch thing. Did you see
Speaker 3: they announced pricing for the Tykhan.
Speaker 1: GT the most boring car ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is the one that's oh sorry, yeah,
Speaker 2: the nevergering record time. It was I think it was
Speaker 2: something like ten dollars less than a GT three, so
Speaker 2: it was over four hundred thousand dollars, which is clinically insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, but people are clinically insane. You see what
Speaker 3: cars are on the road. Yeah, I mean people are.
Speaker 3: But hang on, do you not like the ty caon?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, sorry, I had in my head like
Speaker 1: the bloody ev that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a bulk cellar.
Speaker 1: That's terrible. I get it. I get the important of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a car that.
Speaker 3: You don't think it will be as a lev So I'm.
Speaker 2: Hoping My understanding is they're actually going to make a
Speaker 2: normal looking version of it, because I think the one
Speaker 2: that they've shown so far is like a who pay.
Speaker 2: It haven't looked because it just looks frumpy, right and strange,
Speaker 2: and it just climbed in price like a mccahn used
Speaker 2: to start with that Foce in them Deturbot, like eighty
Speaker 2: or ninety grand. Yeah, this is starting it well over
Speaker 2: one hundred grand now because it's electric only.
Speaker 3: I was going to so that's the electric parody problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: So we've discussed before. It's still I reckon it's still
Speaker 3: at fifteen to twenty grand. The parody absolutely differential, but.
Speaker 2: It was meant to be. I remember they were all
Speaker 2: spouting by twenty twenty five that would be dead even.
Speaker 3: But if you talk to some people like I remember
Speaker 3: Luke Todd from BYD Who's you know. I like the bloke.
Speaker 3: I like him, I love his story about him.
Speaker 1: Later, yeah, I like the guy.
Speaker 3: But he would talk about I remember the Dolphin. When
Speaker 3: he was talking about the Dolphin luck a year before
Speaker 3: it coming, he goes, I've got one coming that's going
Speaker 3: to be it's going to be parody, you know. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it's not it's come out at forty grand,
Speaker 3: I can get out. I can think at nine thirty
Speaker 3: for almost half that we're not at parody, We're not
Speaker 3: even clombed.
Speaker 1: But to the EV world, I think they did pretty
Speaker 1: well with that.
Speaker 3: I mean they took on the yes, but do you
Speaker 3: do you really think that thirty eight thousand dollars is
Speaker 3: good value for such a small car.
Speaker 2: And your average Australian at the moment that they are
Speaker 2: literally struggling to pay their bills and you want to
Speaker 2: go get a car that is the size of a
Speaker 2: slight larger than a Yaris or something, and you want
Speaker 2: them to pay forty grand for it.
Speaker 3: If it was thirty two to thirty five, which is
Speaker 3: not a big drop, it would sell unbelievable numbers.
Speaker 1: But look, the EV landscape is completely different when you're
Speaker 1: talking prices. I think from what they've put out for
Speaker 1: the price, I think it's pretty good.
Speaker 3: No great car. I would probably get it. I might
Speaker 3: get it. I would get it over the MG four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think MG four you had to trick it
Speaker 1: on if you line them up. The X to me
Speaker 1: was a real letdown. Yeah, I hoped so much for that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, it's just a quick in
Speaker 1: a straight.
Speaker 2: Line, doesn't go very far because it has the small battery. Yeah,
Speaker 2: quick for a brief picture.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel the road. It was such a letdown.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you about my week getting the I
Speaker 1: got a Supra?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, like a cool provid Are.
Speaker 3: You trying to take the piece out of my cooper again?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, ah, anyway, Toyota Supra.
Speaker 1: So I got a Toyota Supra twenty twenty four, literally
Speaker 1: dressed off.
Speaker 3: I used to have one of those. Sold it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I fucking raved about Oh this is amazing, put Japanese
Speaker 3: plates on it and everything, and then got rid of it. Unbelievable, barrassed,
Speaker 3: I think even ambassadored for the plate people.
Speaker 1: How embarrassed?
Speaker 3: Were you?
Speaker 1: Embarrassed? Japanese plates?
Speaker 3: It doesn't ever that much money and just go through cars.
Speaker 3: I don't want this one anymore.
Speaker 1: Just imagine having a Japanese style plates. Did you go
Speaker 1: to like cose of play conventions when you have that?
Speaker 1: So anyway, I had the Supra.
Speaker 3: Stop saying that and it's Coopra and Supra. All right?
Speaker 1: All got now?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: So I had this car and it's literally just come
Speaker 1: off the factory floor like it had done about eight caves.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: And they said, like the guy at the holding yard,
Speaker 1: the MSR or whatever it is, you know where they
Speaker 1: keep all these He's like, yep, he's as rough as anything.
Speaker 3: He's actually mad.
Speaker 1: He's listen, don't fuck this up, all right, Like he's
Speaker 1: a soda guy that would look at my four year
Speaker 1: old and go, you fucking give them me a lip ye,
Speaker 1: Like he's he's that guy. So anyway, he's like, don't
Speaker 1: fuck this up, like please, please, don't fuck this one up.
Speaker 1: Like I haven't fucked that many he's like, but he's like, please, look,
Speaker 1: they need it for a photo shoot. It's a proper
Speaker 1: toyo to photo shoot. It's for a World WLD campaign. Please,
Speaker 1: Like the instructions are, don't don't funk this up, no worries.
Speaker 1: Two days later, I fucked this up, so the engines
Speaker 1: that you do. The engine light came on. I drove it,
Speaker 1: That's what I did. I just drove it and the
Speaker 1: engine light came on. And by the way, I just
Speaker 1: don't think it's the smartest idea to give someone like
Speaker 1: me or anyone in this room. Really a car that's
Speaker 1: done just eight kilometers, Like you generally break these cars
Speaker 1: in properly before you hand them over, especially to job.
Speaker 1: Not that I'm pressed or anything, but like, especially if
Speaker 1: you're gonna hand it to me press people, How do
Speaker 1: you identify? What's my pronoun? I sit down for a
Speaker 1: living and talking to a stick, that's it.
Speaker 3: What do you write on your immigration form? What do
Speaker 3: you write on your immigration form? Paul?
Speaker 2: It depends. Sometimes I do journalists, sometimes I do engineers,
Speaker 2: sometimes I do entertainer. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: If you go to China, do you do you leave
Speaker 1: out journalists?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, well really no, that depends who's asking. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: move on.
Speaker 1: No anyway, So what happened with this?
Speaker 3: So you stopped on the side of the road here or.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, But what happened was the warning on
Speaker 1: it on the entertainment was the drive train is fucked.
Speaker 1: This is going to lose power. So generally, if it's
Speaker 1: like yeah, so when it goes into like limp mode,
Speaker 1: if you like, that's bad because it means it's trying
Speaker 1: to preserve itself. So I called them up and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this isn't good and I was planning to take it
Speaker 1: to the Blue Mountains on the weekend and rip around.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't do this now, I can't. Like
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you could ignore it, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's like, can you bring it back and
Speaker 1: I can get you in a land cruise of three
Speaker 1: hundred nice? Am I cool?
Speaker 3: All right, that's a nice run to the mountain.
Speaker 1: It's okay. So this was the land cruiser gr and
Speaker 1: I got in and I'm like, this steering wheels a
Speaker 1: bit shiny, like it just feels very kind of used.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I thought to myself, I bet the person
Speaker 1: before me was someone like Trevorlng just fucking put bloody
Speaker 1: bits of donut everywhere and just like there'd be crumbs
Speaker 1: on the seat seeds, probably had a bit of like geers,
Speaker 1: like it was really like God, yeah, sure, so I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: How to escalate from donuts to there.
Speaker 1: But anyway, well let's just say, how many donuts are you?
Speaker 1: Are you like a three donut man? How many can you?
Speaker 3: Wouldn't I wouldn't go less than six, donut king, I
Speaker 3: would never.
Speaker 1: You the donut kid.
Speaker 3: I'm happy with that. Title.
Speaker 1: So I caught Paul and I was like, you never
Speaker 1: guess what I'm in. I'm in a land cruise of
Speaker 1: three hundred gr and I think it's been used. And
Speaker 1: you said, what, Gordy, I was in your I am
Speaker 1: in your car, in your old car. Well, you're in
Speaker 1: the same sort of car. And I was like, this
Speaker 1: one has just done thirty seven thousand kilometers and yours
Speaker 1: was the same.
Speaker 3: And I've got to tell you, so you had two
Speaker 3: different ones or is this the same time with.
Speaker 2: The same one. I reckon they hold it down. But
Speaker 2: I normally, like I know that people think this is
Speaker 2: a stupid discussion to be having, But normally with press
Speaker 2: cars so.
Speaker 3: Very inside baseball, but people are fascinated by many games.
Speaker 2: Look, I think most most of the time with these manufacturers,
Speaker 2: they'll sell the cars at about ten thousand k's old.
Speaker 2: And the reason they do that is you've got accelerated life.
Speaker 2: When it gets given to a new media outlet, they
Speaker 2: will do the same thing last one did, and it's
Speaker 2: just you're accelerating the degradation of the car. Some companies,
Speaker 2: and I think Toyta could even be one of them,
Speaker 2: just destroy the cars once they're done for pre production cars. So,
Speaker 2: but the strange thing here with this three hundred series,
Speaker 2: it had clearly done a lot of off writing because
Speaker 2: it had scratches all down the side, all down the
Speaker 2: other side. And I'll tell you what, this didn't feel
Speaker 2: great for thirty seven thousand.
Speaker 3: So that accelerated life thing. Do you think it's a
Speaker 3: genuine look at a land croage three hundred thirty eight
Speaker 3: thousand k's or is it a bit more like it's
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think closer to one hundred thousand. And I'm
Speaker 2: hoping that anyone that's listening to this contact at the
Speaker 2: Drivers Show dot com today, you do you want a
Speaker 2: three hundred series, Let us know what it's like to
Speaker 2: live with once you've put some k's on it. Because
Speaker 2: this thing was creaking, the suspension felt funny, there was
Speaker 2: a vibration from the engine. I think all of these
Speaker 2: things didn't happen until Gordy picked it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to say, to be honest, I didn't
Speaker 1: have those issues. There was no scratches. We probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: claim we had the same one. There's a good chance
Speaker 1: we could have had separate ones.
Speaker 2: But they both had over thirty thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, one thing that stuck out to me
Speaker 1: was I quickly realized the three hundred series in general,
Speaker 1: and this being the gr so it's up a fair bit.
Speaker 1: It's probably up about what fifty mil do you reckon
Speaker 1: than the standard? Like the suspensions different than the standard,
Speaker 1: and also it's got chunky at tires.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I don't think it's fifty mil. I
Speaker 2: think it's only slightly higher bran.
Speaker 1: It just it just felt like it's obviously quite a
Speaker 1: big car, and it's the easiest big car I've ever driven.
Speaker 1: It's such a fucking easy drive.
Speaker 3: Really. But I do see a lot of them around town.
Speaker 3: They are the new taxi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't mind it. It was pretty good. My
Speaker 1: dad had one and probably put about seventy kilometers on
Speaker 1: it and sold it and he sold it off it.
Speaker 1: I can't really comment on it because what he did
Speaker 1: was he sold it to a company called the Night
Speaker 1: h Q, which is a company I now work for.
Speaker 1: And they're like those car giveaway.
Speaker 3: Things, you know, and don't get me started.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I won't get you started, can you
Speaker 1: please do? Because it's called money Trevor.
Speaker 3: All right, I thought you worked in Rainy. I'm so confused.
Speaker 1: Anyway, whatever, good on me, HQ. The face and the
Speaker 1: pretty face. I've replaced both.
Speaker 2: You know. When there's people standing at the desk, and
Speaker 2: then under the desk there's also people that's just Gordy
Speaker 2: a very spacious mouth.
Speaker 1: Wow, Jesus, look at you two. Me getting a bit
Speaker 1: of stuff on the side and you're rush in it eyes.
Speaker 3: Your primarily aware of this.
Speaker 1: Sold it to this company and then they gave it away. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they modified the ship out of it and gave it away.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm interested if you do own one, let
Speaker 2: us know what it's like. And the interesting thing as
Speaker 2: well is that that platform will be or is the
Speaker 2: platform for the new Lexus Cheeks and will be the
Speaker 2: new Prato as well.
Speaker 3: You've looked at that new Prat, haven't you. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: it's it's a very very different.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 3: Great three hundred is a really nice evolution of the
Speaker 3: land cruise, all right, but the new Prato is it's
Speaker 3: like where he has gone.
Speaker 2: It's just it's.
Speaker 1: Radical for radicals where I think it's where Lexus needed
Speaker 1: to go. Though, definitely like lex has had this kind
Speaker 1: of old man brands in.
Speaker 2: I think is still a bit sort of straight. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think this car is very because Lexus has.
Speaker 3: Always had a little bit of flare on the side.
Speaker 3: They've had a few sports cars and different things that
Speaker 3: have something very different.
Speaker 1: I've had some great sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so look wise, but Toyota has been straight
Speaker 3: down the line, very consistent. And then you bring in
Speaker 3: this new Prato and it's, man, it's a strange looking thing.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it a lot, but I think for the
Speaker 3: average Prato owner, it's vastly different and therefore kind of
Speaker 3: an interesting prospect.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest issue they're going to have is
Speaker 2: it's got to carry over two point eight liter four
Speaker 2: cylinder diesel, so it's getting mild, very mild hybrid technology.
Speaker 2: But five hundred new meters on a vehicle that is
Speaker 2: going to be heavier because it's on a much bigger
Speaker 2: platform now, I think is probably going to hold them back.
Speaker 2: So they increase the towing capacity as well. So now
Speaker 2: they've gone from three to three and a half, you're
Speaker 2: going to be towing an extra five hundred kilos in
Speaker 2: a heavier car with the same engine.
Speaker 3: I just think that's really through it.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so they do have that. They are working
Speaker 2: on a hybrid. The problem they've got is though that
Speaker 2: they can't stick a V sixties in it because you're
Speaker 2: going to cannibalize three rounded series. Can't stick a V
Speaker 2: six petrol in it because you're going to cannibalize GX
Speaker 2: and globally, they don't have any other engine variance aside
Speaker 2: from the hybrid bro you can actually put in there.
Speaker 2: So the screw sick one, it'll be an interesting one
Speaker 2: and it'll be more expensive. I reckon ten to fifteen.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, it just looks like it's
Speaker 3: going to be more expensive than where Prato's are back.
Speaker 3: And I think most Prato, a lot of Prato owners,
Speaker 3: to generalize, you know, are on a cycle. They're on
Speaker 3: like a five year, six year, but everyone purchase least
Speaker 3: gone a situation and they're.
Speaker 2: Ready for the new one percent.
Speaker 3: And if it's ten grand more, yep, that's a big hit.
Speaker 2: And I know some people that have actually just gone
Speaker 2: ahead and renewed Prato now ahead of the new one
Speaker 2: coming because they don't want to change. They like y right,
Speaker 2: they don't want to have the first of something new,
Speaker 2: so they're funny those guys.
Speaker 1: My brother waited like nearly two years for his Prato.
Speaker 1: He got it last Christmas and I said to him,
Speaker 1: hold off, like there's one coming. It looks fantastic. Hold
Speaker 1: off is that? Noah, I'm done. I'm done with waiting.
Speaker 1: I said, well, put your name the way that you
Speaker 1: got fucked around, make sure your name is on the
Speaker 1: top of the list for then anyone, because it looks great.
Speaker 1: And we didn't have too many details about the engine
Speaker 1: and stuff like that back then, but I was like,
Speaker 1: it looks good and I didn't think it would be.
Speaker 1: I think it feels a bit pricey for what it is,
Speaker 1: but let's see what they.
Speaker 2: Do with it. You're buying into it's a bit like
Speaker 2: buying a Tesla, right, You're getting access to the supercharger network.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you buy a Toyota, you know that
Speaker 2: there is a dealer everywhere. So if you're going to
Speaker 2: drive regionally, something shits itself, you just go there. And
Speaker 2: I think if you're going to do a long distance
Speaker 2: drive as well around the Australia, but the map thing,
Speaker 2: you want to be doing it in a.
Speaker 3: Toy Yeah, the question without notice, Paul, where are we
Speaker 3: at with car ordered delays? Because I had this random
Speaker 3: conversation with a guy at dinner the other night. We're
Speaker 3: at like a group dinner, like ten or fifteen people,
Speaker 3: and he was talking about he'd ordered Hyundai I twenty
Speaker 3: n Ah, yes in June twenty twenty two. Whoa June
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, And he got some contact from the
Speaker 3: deal today because he thought it was coming this month,
Speaker 3: got pushed out to April. Just in the course of
Speaker 3: three days, it's now at may or joom yeah. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that doesn't any sense to me. I
Speaker 3: just feel like there's something weird there. Whether it's just
Speaker 3: going no, we'll move that guy down unlest we'll give
Speaker 3: this guy one. I don't know. Is there a bit
Speaker 3: of that goes on still.
Speaker 2: But I know that I twenty and they basically a
Speaker 2: lot of the end cars had very strange production issues.
Speaker 2: They had changes in production location, so I think they're
Speaker 2: their own separate little beast. Toyota still has problems. So
Speaker 2: around midyear they reckon they're going to be down to
Speaker 2: a three to six month wait on most of their
Speaker 2: cars unless it's a special order car. Like a lexislc
Speaker 2: or something like that. But most other brands, you're seeing
Speaker 2: it all over TV now they are advertising and advertising
Speaker 2: and advertising, and I think that is the first telltale
Speaker 2: sign that the cars is coming. Drive over the West
Speaker 2: Gate Bridge and you look at the holding yard. It
Speaker 2: is full of cars, and I think, what's happened with
Speaker 2: these car companies. They've had this period where they're just
Speaker 2: ordering as much as they can. Now the manufacturers are saying, hey,
Speaker 2: you have got thousands of cars coming, figure out how
Speaker 2: to sell them. You don't have a choice in the matter.
Speaker 2: And it's going to complicate things next year with this
Speaker 2: absolute nonsense tax, bullshit tax, because that is going to
Speaker 2: really upset the balance. And Toyota has come out and
Speaker 2: said that they will not pay fines to other car
Speaker 2: companies to buy credits. They will just pay them to
Speaker 2: the government because Tesla's business model is great.
Speaker 3: Each year they in the US.
Speaker 2: In the US, it's about two billion dollars a year
Speaker 2: that they earn as credits that other manufacturers buy from them.
Speaker 2: In Australia they're set to earn two hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: over the course of the year with other manufacturers buying
Speaker 2: credits and it was funny. In Germany, the factory that
Speaker 2: they built was actually mainly funded by Stillantis, who had
Speaker 2: to buy all these credits off. Tesla has paid for
Speaker 2: Tesla to have a new factory in Germany.
Speaker 3: So if all the car companies do what Toyota do
Speaker 3: and say we're going to pay the government instead of
Speaker 3: the other brands, do the other brands get nothing?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, because it's up to you. That's
Speaker 2: a trading market. And the issue you've got with Tesla
Speaker 2: as well. They out and said the other day they're
Speaker 2: leaving the FCAI, which is the sort of industry body
Speaker 2: that represents all oh absolutely, and they've left it because
Speaker 2: the FCAI is parroting the line that they need exemptions
Speaker 2: of certain classes vehicles and the FCAI is very much
Speaker 2: led by Toyota and so the FCAI is trying to
Speaker 2: Rebut this Tesla's doing this, and the reason they're doing
Speaker 2: it is because it was actually on the Today Show
Speaker 2: someone had fed a producer numbers and I think it
Speaker 2: was from the FCAI, where they claimed Model Y would
Speaker 2: be fifteen grand cheaper. Oh wow, Tesla cractic because like,
Speaker 2: hold on, you're advertising everywhere that a model is going
Speaker 2: to be fifteen grand cheaper because they've assumed that Tesla's
Speaker 2: going to drop the price by fifteen grand. It's like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: they'll do the pocket the fifteen grand because why would
Speaker 2: you and what they're experiencing I suspect because they never
Speaker 2: come out with statements unless it's from Musk. So the
Speaker 2: Australian manager, whoever the fuck he is, has come out
Speaker 2: with a written statement that he sent to media saying
Speaker 2: they're pulling out because they must have seen a sales
Speaker 2: decline by people going well, hold on.
Speaker 3: Because they think the price is going to fluctuate, so
Speaker 3: master Jet.
Speaker 2: And the reason that the price is going to fluctuate
Speaker 2: for people that don't understand this is the government is
Speaker 2: basically saying that if your average fleet is above a
Speaker 2: certain emissions level, we're going to hit you with a
Speaker 2: fee that you can either buy credits from other brands
Speaker 2: or get fined for.
Speaker 1: Can I just say, this whole system looking outside in
Speaker 1: feel so fucking flawed because if it's all about buying credit,
Speaker 1: or if you can get away with buying credits and
Speaker 1: doing this, the whole point of it is to meet
Speaker 1: admissions targets exactly. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It's like environment It's like the carbon tax stuff. It's like,
Speaker 3: rather than cutting your emissions and doing good for the environment,
Speaker 3: just buy some credits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll find you and we'll get money for that.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing this for emissions targets.
Speaker 2: Like longer term. The plan is to say, well, if
Speaker 2: you want to stop getting fined, you need to bring
Speaker 2: in better stuff. But therein lies the problem. Someone like Toyota,
Speaker 2: who sells.
Speaker 3: By the way I thought personally, when I looked at
Speaker 3: it first and foremost, I thought it would be okay
Speaker 3: because of the amount of hybrids they sell.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought, But it's off by the
Speaker 2: amount of land cruise o Pratos land cruises and highluxes.
Speaker 2: The problem is though that there is I don't think
Speaker 2: anyone in this world wants the world to end for
Speaker 2: climate to go bad. No one wants that. So if
Speaker 2: you're out there driving around Australia telling a caravan, you
Speaker 2: don't want the world to end. But also you don't
Speaker 2: want to be driving an electric car that's going to
Speaker 2: get one hundred k's up the road and you're going
Speaker 2: to need a charge. If you're a tradee you don't
Speaker 2: have outside of that OLDV and electric uit that you
Speaker 2: can buy, So what's at a premium?
Speaker 3: And doesn't ITV?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just.
Speaker 2: All of these problems with the equation and they keep
Speaker 2: talking about how they want to compare it to the US.
Speaker 2: The US actually has an exemption for footprints, so the
Speaker 2: bigger the vehicle, the less it is required to have
Speaker 2: alignment with the missions. And they have a lot of
Speaker 2: big VI, which is the top three best selling cars
Speaker 2: in the States, of the F series Ram and the Silverada.
Speaker 2: So I think that Australia needs to get real understand
Speaker 2: that people buy the cars they do for whatever reasons
Speaker 2: they do. Yes, you have an element of people who
Speaker 2: buy them to just stuff around him. But if you
Speaker 2: are buying it because you have no alternative, Toyota is
Speaker 2: going to pass the cost onto you. And if you're
Speaker 2: a trade that extra cost they're paying for their ute
Speaker 2: is going to go to you when they come to
Speaker 2: do something in your house.
Speaker 1: And also, where's the choice, Like it feels so fucking
Speaker 1: draconian to say you can't really buy the car you want.
Speaker 1: If you want a big car, no, no, no, do
Speaker 1: you know I'm telling me what to do? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I come from Victoria, where for two years we were
Speaker 2: told what to.
Speaker 3: Do and where to go.
Speaker 2: People are sick of it.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's paying the price now you can't get into
Speaker 1: the Portzy golf club. Cut him some slack.
Speaker 2: I caught up with Pricey the other day and I said, mate,
Speaker 2: hold up the sorry, just pick up that name.
Speaker 1: You just drunk.
Speaker 2: Do not let him in? Under any to let him in,
Speaker 2: I said, don't worry, We're not letting.
Speaker 1: Hey. You know, when you make some terrible decisions in
Speaker 1: your life, I've made a few, obviously, most of them
Speaker 1: I've asked to kindly like go through the window.
Speaker 3: For most of them you had to text them pass
Speaker 3: them to delete the video go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. But I just don't think think anything could
Speaker 1: quite stack up as badly as the mistake of buying
Speaker 1: an EV nine. And that's exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 3: A mistakes.
Speaker 1: Oh holy fuck me in the dick.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: I actually think is that it's a fantastic looking car.
Speaker 2: But Gordy, the guy that is wearing fucking glasses and
Speaker 2: can't actually see anything.
Speaker 3: I know. The first thing I said when I posted
Speaker 3: about it, was this is a polarizing car, no doubt,
Speaker 3: no doubt, it's polarizing, but you got it. Like my
Speaker 3: situation is this. I got three kids, the teenagers. We
Speaker 3: own a key A Carnival. It's four years old. And
Speaker 3: like I would never I didn't even think I was
Speaker 3: buying a new car this year. But I'd had the
Speaker 3: EV nine. I had the air in the earth over
Speaker 3: like two different weeks in late January maybe, And so
Speaker 3: the wife saw it in the driver. She doesn't look
Speaker 3: at press cars, doesn't drive them, won't go near them,
Speaker 3: but she'd seen it in the driver, and you know,
Speaker 3: friends with Blake with a pride come around, looked at it,
Speaker 3: and you know, people talk about the cars and driveway.
Speaker 3: And then I get a call from the dude that
Speaker 3: does my fine and it goes the Carnival's up and
Speaker 3: I went, what do you mean? Like, what do you
Speaker 3: mean up? He goes, the lease is finished? You got
Speaker 3: to pay it out or what are you going to do?
Speaker 3: I went shit, I had no idea. Get home, say
Speaker 3: to the wife, We've got to get a new Carnival. Okay, cool, cool.
Speaker 3: I go to a Keya dealer with in my head,
Speaker 3: I want to trade it in. I want to get
Speaker 3: a new Carnival. Like I'm there to fucking buy and
Speaker 3: this is the same fucking dealership that I tried to
Speaker 3: buy the carnival from originally but wouldn't give me a quote. Irrelevant.
Speaker 3: So I walk in. I go to this bike mate,
Speaker 3: I want to buy a new Carnival. Twelve month wait mate,
Speaker 3: I went on a key a Carnival. He goes, yep,
Speaker 3: I went okay, and that was it? Like, I'm like,
Speaker 3: is that it? And he goes. I said, can I
Speaker 3: get a value on mine? Like a trade in value?
Speaker 3: He goes, you know? Does He opens up a fucking
Speaker 3: website and looks through like.
Speaker 1: Carsa like a read book.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, mane, I could do this at home.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. There's two even nines in the shows,
Speaker 3: two in the show room. He doesn't even think to say, oh,
Speaker 3: you've got a family, Like, doesn't even try to sell
Speaker 3: me a car.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So I have this conversation with Fennick on our podcast,
Speaker 3: just just ranting and raving boke emails. Me goes, mate,
Speaker 3: just say, you know, I work for such and such,
Speaker 3: happy to help you out if you do decide to
Speaker 3: go down there. No, And so I said, mate, happy
Speaker 3: to have a look at the price. Because then I
Speaker 3: got back to the wife and she goes, should we
Speaker 3: be getting a carnival or should we get that environmental thing?
Speaker 3: My life's pretty pretty forward thinking on the on the
Speaker 3: environmental front. We're recycling every fucking thing in the house.
Speaker 3: We've got bins for everything. And I went, that's basically
Speaker 3: green light from my wife by the EV nine right.
Speaker 3: So I work real hard on the numbers. I get
Speaker 3: it down to basically the same price because the carnivals
Speaker 3: are actually a pretty good trade right now. So I
Speaker 3: do it over five years and stead of four or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I get down to the same price. And mate,
Speaker 3: I've fucking I've got my deposit down on EV nine
Speaker 3: and it arrives this week, like it happened real quick.
Speaker 1: What coloen you get black? Okay, because we've got black
Speaker 1: black carnival back.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was on a boat. There may have been
Speaker 3: a phone call, mate, but yeah it was it was
Speaker 3: on us.
Speaker 1: I am no, who are you travel long?
Speaker 3: I mean someone else got a phone call that said
Speaker 3: your EV nine Earth is delayed by two months. But
Speaker 3: arrived and I'm picking it up on Thursday, and so
Speaker 3: odd I did, like I had a bit of a
Speaker 3: panic after kind of signing paperwork and stuff, being like, fuck,
Speaker 3: have I done the right thing here? And it is
Speaker 3: polarizing to look at. But I got another press car
Speaker 3: and I told her why she has to drive it
Speaker 3: because she's just went up to the park and back.
Speaker 3: And she she was she never driven, like, she hasn't
Speaker 3: driven the coop. Yeah, right, she's never driven it. So
Speaker 3: she thought it was weird and heavy, but it was fine.
Speaker 3: And then I got one a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 3: to drive for the last time to my mum's place,
Speaker 3: which is a six hour drive, right, So I thought,
Speaker 3: I've got my got family in the country, and you
Speaker 3: charge that up and you took for I had a
Speaker 3: great bin. I had a great drive. I loved it
Speaker 3: on the windy bits, on the stretches, every it was
Speaker 3: just great. So I went, I'm really happy this is
Speaker 3: the car made. It's a great car. It really is.
Speaker 3: It's expensive.
Speaker 1: Here's it.
Speaker 3: Look, it's a great car.
Speaker 1: It is. It is really pulverizing, right to look at
Speaker 1: your right to me, I was like, that is I
Speaker 1: and this isn't Adyss with ka. I fucking love Key.
Speaker 1: I had a stinger. I love Keay is great, I
Speaker 1: love it care But it was just I looked at
Speaker 1: this and I thought, not a great looking car. But
Speaker 1: my main thing was, it's such a specific audience that
Speaker 1: would buy this one an EV A big evn is
Speaker 1: it seven seats seven seat EV roughly one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. Not a cheap car. So you're rolling
Speaker 1: around in quite a luxurious beat. It's a business along
Speaker 1: it is. But John Support, I thought to myself, there's
Speaker 1: such a specific audience with this and you are that.
Speaker 3: No, I don't expect they're going to sell in huge numbers,
Speaker 3: but I don't think they do either. I think this
Speaker 3: is a this is a flagship vehicle for them. It's
Speaker 3: a vehicle that's like, let's be real, this is the
Speaker 3: biggest electric car you can buy in Australia. And if
Speaker 3: I was in America, I'd be buying a Rivian like
Speaker 3: I'd be buying something like that because I think it's
Speaker 3: awesome to have that. It comes good too. It's little
Speaker 3: for my liking. But see, in a look sense, I
Speaker 3: still think the model, why is the fucking ugliest car
Speaker 3: on the road today, and if I see another fucking
Speaker 3: white one, like it's just everywhere right, and it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's worse. Now, this is the the worst thing about
Speaker 3: having a car that changes. It's going to look even
Speaker 3: worse when they bring out the update later this year
Speaker 3: because it's not the new test. Model three looks fucking
Speaker 3: beautiful compared to the old one. Imagine how good the
Speaker 3: Why is going to look at all these thousands of
Speaker 3: people have got the Model Why.
Speaker 1: It's fun. I got to say that, No wonder people
Speaker 1: wrap those, you know, they come in such a limited amount.
Speaker 3: It is weird how many people do that, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I've got one near us. It's like a rainbow, you know,
Speaker 3: that oil slick style that looks different in tears.
Speaker 2: Model three. Well, I was actually going to say, I
Speaker 2: like the EV night and we were just discussing off
Speaker 2: air that I thought the GT line was just a
Speaker 2: bit much. The fucking digital mirrors.
Speaker 3: I cannot stand driving a Genesis with them now, and
Speaker 3: it's like, why can't they just put the screens yes
Speaker 3: up where you would normally look at a mirror.
Speaker 1: Did you have you got remotely in use to those
Speaker 1: because I found by the end of it, I was like,
Speaker 1: I get it. They kind of like the mirrors do.
Speaker 1: Tech wise, they do some pretty incredible more and all that.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it too, right, But I still, honestly for a.
Speaker 2: Mirror, it doesn't I don't think.
Speaker 3: No. But I don't think it's anything wrong with the technology.
Speaker 3: I think it's the placement of the little screens out
Speaker 3: is the same when you look out the windows, like
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be able to see the fucking camera. I
Speaker 3: should exactly put the screen up there so it's covering it,
Speaker 3: just a little bit of the windows.
Speaker 1: No sense, right, the fact that you can see the camera.
Speaker 2: They've done it like, oh, we don't want to block
Speaker 2: the camera.
Speaker 3: It's like put the screen up. But I don't like audio.
Speaker 3: I don't like digital review mirrors either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what they come in handy if you've
Speaker 2: got a seven seater because you can see through seven seats,
Speaker 2: or a car that has a tiny fucking rear window.
Speaker 1: Those big black cars. If you get transported to the
Speaker 1: airport in you know the Yeah, but you're.
Speaker 3: Young and healthy, your eyes are good. So actually I
Speaker 3: don't think that because I wear glasses for reading. I
Speaker 3: actually don't think I can focus properly on the digital
Speaker 3: review mirror when when you look at the mirror weirdly
Speaker 3: you are focusing in the distance.
Speaker 2: That's yeah.
Speaker 3: But when the mirror is here and it's a screen.
Speaker 2: That you're focusing on, that I don't think as well.
Speaker 2: But my issue with those digital side mirrors is perspective
Speaker 2: because if you're parking up like where I do, up
Speaker 2: against a wall, I use my head to move around
Speaker 2: to get different angles on the mirror. When you do
Speaker 2: that on a digital side mirror angles it doesn't move
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 3: Now you think, aren't they a little bit more kind
Speaker 3: of wide angle? Isn't there a bit more?
Speaker 2: You just yeah, in low light especially, you just don't
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, low light is bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Evan on one's great, And so do
Speaker 2: you think I've been here? Do you think, like, seriously,
Speaker 2: the one you've gone for is the best, because to me,
Speaker 2: the top speck was just a bit much.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have much range from the air, just doesn't
Speaker 3: have enough range for me.
Speaker 2: Where you've landed is perfect. And the ride's better as well,
Speaker 2: like it is actually quite nice.
Speaker 3: And the fact that it doesn't have a while to
Speaker 3: have a car play is the most disgraceful thing in
Speaker 3: history given in the US, it does, but you know.
Speaker 2: What the fuck's going from? That will be a software update. Well,
Speaker 2: we just tested the ConA Electric. It actually came and
Speaker 2: it's got the same same yaement system versions and stuff.
Speaker 2: It actually came with a software update that added wireless
Speaker 2: car play while we had the car.
Speaker 1: They're starting shit, really, yeah, are starting to roll over? Really,
Speaker 1: I think we're the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, entertainment system firmware supports it. It's just sorry the
Speaker 2: hardware supports of the firm where they need right day. Yes,
Speaker 2: So I think it's I think it's a good choice.
Speaker 2: A question just on the podcast as well. Your new podcast,
Speaker 2: tell us first the name of it. So when anyone with.
Speaker 3: Two bugs talking electric cars really really vague thinking. But
Speaker 3: we've been doing two bugs talking text Stephen Fennick and
Speaker 3: I for thirteen years, and so when we're going to
Speaker 3: do EV's because he's got one, I've got one. We
Speaker 3: talk about him all the time. We know as well,
Speaker 3: Bens right, he's in the eque. He owned a model
Speaker 3: S for Yes for five years and then they stopped
Speaker 3: making them. Here for left right, hand right, So he
Speaker 3: just went fuck you and brought the Mercedes. I've got
Speaker 3: the Cooper and so we started that. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just yeah, it's just we're trying to go to the
Speaker 3: lowest common denomina in terms of it's not for it's
Speaker 3: not really for EV owner. It's for people that want
Speaker 3: to know more, want to learn more, want to understand more.
Speaker 3: You know, you can kind of jump in and hear stuff.
Speaker 1: That's a smart idea because I think that's this is
Speaker 1: now the time to do it. People are starting to
Speaker 1: really like prick their heads out.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're late. I think we're I think
Speaker 3: we're at the right point. I think it's a tipping
Speaker 3: point for people to go. I know, I like we
Speaker 3: talked last week to a bloke from the Strata Committee
Speaker 3: strata owners about EV's ownership. He had a really like
Speaker 3: positive take on EV's and fire safety. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: so that was interesting. So now I'm going to get
Speaker 3: fire department on and go, what can you tell me
Speaker 3: your side of the story, because I think it's important
Speaker 3: to hear the whole argument about stuff. Plus, I like
Speaker 3: Phoenix doesn't leave the city. It was barely drives over
Speaker 3: the fucking bridge to come to my studio to do
Speaker 3: the show. But I leave the city. I've done a
Speaker 3: lot of driving and charging. I took the ford E
Speaker 3: Transit van to my mum's at Walker. It was the
Speaker 3: fucking hardest thing I've ever done because on highway it's
Speaker 3: the least efficient highway drive and ev I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: It's so thirty per hundred and man fuck, I was
Speaker 3: so nervous about making it there. And I was at
Speaker 3: scone at the one ny fifty killer what charger and
Speaker 3: I had to go to one hundred. I had to
Speaker 3: go to at least ninety two to get enough range
Speaker 3: to get to Tamworth. Poor bloke in a BYD turns
Speaker 3: up well five minutes and I'm like, mate, I'm going
Speaker 3: to be here in chat for a fuckingn hour. Buddy
Speaker 3: good one was.
Speaker 2: Half of it sticking out as well, because it's got
Speaker 2: the charging thing at the front.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: Now that's the other thing I didn't get. It's like
Speaker 2: it's a big workman. And then if you go to
Speaker 2: like a shopping center car park, you're blocking half the
Speaker 2: rock because the thing is sticking in there. But one topic,
Speaker 2: actually two topics. We rolled out electric vehicle charging in
Speaker 2: our old building. I was the OC manager there and
Speaker 2: it was expensive, and funnily enough, one of the guys
Speaker 2: that was fucking jumping up and down about this constantly
Speaker 2: while we were getting a consultant to work on the
Speaker 2: plans and everything didn't end up fucking getting it, even
Speaker 2: though he bought a Tesla and didn't think about charging
Speaker 2: until he got at home. We spent a year installing
Speaker 2: all this stuff and he didn't end up putting it
Speaker 2: in because he thought it was too expensive. And he goes, oh,
Speaker 2: that's too much, I can get it installed for this,
Speaker 2: I said, hold on, fucking listen to me. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't need an actrician.
Speaker 2: To come and plug it up for you. We have
Speaker 2: a load manager so that when it gets to summer
Speaker 2: and there's fucking fifty people trying to charge their cars,
Speaker 2: that it can load. Shehad, So we actually have electricity, yes,
Speaker 2: and we don't need you the selfish guy who wants
Speaker 2: to just plug up through your killer one. Meagine if
Speaker 2: there's fifty of you selfish guys, we wouldn't have any electricity.
Speaker 2: So it's it's those types of people who are tight
Speaker 2: asses that don't want to then spend because it is
Speaker 2: more expensive than doing it at home.
Speaker 3: You can't just put two grand war box on. You've
Speaker 3: got to do like you'd be that guy. Is that
Speaker 3: what we're saying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be that guy. No, it's a fair point,
Speaker 1: like if he doesn't really want to say the difference
Speaker 1: is the plug in sort of mount that you've got
Speaker 1: to get. Say, he's got to spend like four grand.
Speaker 1: I don't know too much about the setup, but say
Speaker 1: he's going to spend four grand as opposed to what
Speaker 1: do you have to pay this strata people?
Speaker 2: Look, I'll find the number, but it was it was
Speaker 2: not four grand. It was like, let's call it eighteen
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. And he thought he could get it for
Speaker 2: five hundred.
Speaker 1: So he's being a third of ye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked again, befo all we came on here
Speaker 3: about the kind of community that is ev owners, especially
Speaker 3: on Facebook, and I had to leave a couple of
Speaker 3: Facebook groups because I saw too many people sending links
Speaker 3: to like Alley Express and all this to buy fucking
Speaker 3: charges and shits, And I'm thinking that is not author
Speaker 3: that is not regulated in Australia. That's The ship that's
Speaker 3: going to bring this whole industry down is dodgy chargers.
Speaker 3: And the problem is not enough cars come with cables.
Speaker 3: Isn't it weird that you buy an evop Cooper came
Speaker 3: with the public charging style, you know, Type two to
Speaker 3: Type two were not a home granny charger. The key,
Speaker 3: I think comes with a granny charger, which I think
Speaker 3: all cars should come with, plug it in at home
Speaker 3: into a PowerPoint. But you get people who buy a
Speaker 3: you know, a charger at home. I don't want to
Speaker 3: say war Box because that's a brand. That's what I've got.
Speaker 3: The awesome They buy charger, they get installed at home,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't have a cable on it, So you
Speaker 3: buy then a cable. Now, the problem is if they
Speaker 3: buy a cheap shit cable that isn't rated for the
Speaker 3: for the power they're outputting, that is going to be
Speaker 3: the weak link in the chain. It's not the car
Speaker 3: that catchers fight. It's barely the electricity in the home.
Speaker 3: It's the charger or the fucking cable.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you tell someone who's pretty sort
Speaker 1: of set in their ways and an ev is a
Speaker 1: big thing for them, like I look at my old man,
Speaker 1: and he was like talking about getting a Model three.
Speaker 1: At one point I was like, Eh, don't do it,
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it. But I guarantee he'd
Speaker 1: be this sort of person that'd be like, ah, look,
Speaker 1: I'll just fucking go on the internet without telling anyone
Speaker 1: buy something off Amazon.
Speaker 3: You spent like sixty grand on a car, and then
Speaker 3: you go on that like I say, I paid eighteen
Speaker 3: hundred bucks for my war box. I think you get
Speaker 3: him a bit cheaper. But my mine's got a Wi
Speaker 3: Fi and all that kind of cool control, and I
Speaker 3: know I could have got something. I think Tesla had
Speaker 3: him for like seven fifty or something. Right, that's the
Speaker 3: minimum I spend. If you're spending lesson the Tesla charger,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: And is it doing it? It's like and you know
Speaker 2: the other thing as well, that a topic for you
Speaker 2: your podcast, which I'm about to come up to now,
Speaker 2: is what happens at the end of a novate at
Speaker 2: least because our model, why we got that ovated least
Speaker 2: to take advantage of the FBT exemption. Right, my two
Speaker 2: years is coming up in August, and I've got the
Speaker 2: balloon payment of forty three grand. Currently the cars are
Speaker 2: listed second hand trade money for about fifty five. So
Speaker 2: at the moment, great, But what's going to happen year
Speaker 2: three when you've got everyone who went for a three
Speaker 2: year at least instead of a two and the resale
Speaker 2: values of these teslas are crashing at the moment.
Speaker 3: The international stuff for because so many were born and
Speaker 3: a lot were.
Speaker 2: Used for Uber for all this sort of stuff, so
Speaker 2: they're all just ditching them.
Speaker 1: The battery, spe degeneration and all that.
Speaker 2: And also on top of that, you've got when you
Speaker 2: take advantage of the FBT exemption, you've already saved X
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. You haven't paid GST upfront either, so you're
Speaker 2: going to dump it for whatever the balloon is. And
Speaker 2: the balloon is less than market value. So you're going
Speaker 2: to see in at the two year mark, which I'm
Speaker 2: at in August, and at the three year mark the
Speaker 2: following year, which is when they first dropped Model Y,
Speaker 2: you're going to see the prices of these drops. So
Speaker 2: I'd be curious to know for anyone else that's in
Speaker 2: that situation what they're doing, whether they just trade it
Speaker 2: in for another one and keep the cycle going, and
Speaker 2: if they do what happens with the second hand one?
Speaker 2: Do they just list it for a cheap amount and
Speaker 2: then you bring the price of everyone who didn't get
Speaker 2: the FBT except Novade at least set up.
Speaker 3: So do you when the government regulation thing to him
Speaker 3: it earlier came on about a month or two ago,
Speaker 3: Hadley rang me and want to be on here to
Speaker 3: talk to try and explain it to people, right yep,
Speaker 3: in Layman's terms. And he's pretty relaxed with me and
Speaker 3: doesn't try and push things too hard. So I was
Speaker 3: I had him on board broadly the ev train, right,
Speaker 3: which is a big milestone, and he was like, yes,
Speaker 3: but what about the battery? So now I want to
Speaker 3: ask you this because I thought about it. I thought,
Speaker 3: in five years from now, you're going to go to
Speaker 3: car sales, you're going to look at cars, and right
Speaker 3: now you look at a Keyer Carnival twenty twenty model
Speaker 3: and it's got one hundred thousand k's or forty thousand
Speaker 3: k's or you know, that's pretty much your measure of
Speaker 3: the difference. Do you think we'll get to a point
Speaker 3: where you list a car with battery health? Yeah, battery
Speaker 3: health like maximum range.
Speaker 1: People already go into marketplace or something, people already take
Speaker 1: photos of, say if they're selling a Tesla, they'll already
Speaker 1: take photos of the battery health stuff on the screen
Speaker 1: because I think that's the measure uptop as well.
Speaker 3: You know they'll do that because surely the measure of
Speaker 3: one Tesla's value, one electric cars value versus another one
Speaker 3: of the exact same age and condition is how good
Speaker 3: is the battery? So essentially what is the remaining range?
Speaker 3: Because that that's going to be the big difference between
Speaker 3: two cars, isn't it.
Speaker 2: And that's going to be an industry as well. We
Speaker 2: met this company at where was it, I think it
Speaker 2: was at the Munich Motor Show, and they were a
Speaker 2: startup Silicon Valley startup and they basically were selling this
Speaker 2: technology to car companies to be able to do remote
Speaker 2: field diagnoses of their vehicles batteries, but very in depth.
Speaker 2: I think that is going to be the next big
Speaker 2: industry where you can get an OBD port or an
Speaker 2: app or something that will allow you to diagnose a
Speaker 2: battery and test sell integrity so that when you sell
Speaker 2: a car you can have a certified.
Speaker 3: Like the old days, you get there to come along and.
Speaker 1: Do a check of a car, say like diale and
Speaker 1: kind of like sheet system like the old days when
Speaker 1: they'd like wine their.
Speaker 2: But I would want that because there is a big
Speaker 2: difference between a car that is constantly DC fast charged
Speaker 2: and a car that is slow charged. Yes, and there's
Speaker 2: also a difference between a sort of a typical lithium
Speaker 2: ion battery and an LFP battery.
Speaker 3: So someone who bothered to put the eighty percent limit
Speaker 3: on who didn't and all those kind of things. If
Speaker 3: I was someone who had really good financial backing on
Speaker 3: my website, I'd be launching like an EV car sales,
Speaker 3: you know, with a different name obviously because you didn't
Speaker 3: want legal weathers, but no genuine on being shape raise
Speaker 3: it with our boards because I think that I think
Speaker 3: we've got trading post style marketplaces happen now. But that's
Speaker 3: old school, right. The new school is going to be
Speaker 3: a people just searching for an EV especially with the
Speaker 3: flood of cars that are going to hit the marketers
Speaker 3: you've identified and make it for the buyer. So you
Speaker 3: can't list your car unless you've shown evidence of its
Speaker 3: current range at eighty or one hundred percent. You know,
Speaker 3: those kind of things, so that you really showing the
Speaker 3: value of the core technology of the car, not the
Speaker 3: fact that it's shiny and you've looked after the seats.
Speaker 3: What is the drive train of this car?
Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, it's it's really fascinating and I think I
Speaker 2: just tested the toy at to BZ four X.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is with that name? It's it is
Speaker 3: a stupid name.
Speaker 1: It's like it's been named after one of Elon Musk's kids.
Speaker 2: That's right, the one is actually funny from you very good,
Speaker 2: But yeah, that that car is I think a car
Speaker 2: that's misunderstood by a lot of people. A lot of
Speaker 2: people are complaining about how shit is it is as
Speaker 2: an EV and that sort of stuff. But to me,
Speaker 2: that is a car that if you drive a camera
Speaker 2: right now, you can go drive that and it's the same.
Speaker 2: It's got buttons for everything. Everything is foreign and weird.
Speaker 2: There's no weird shit you have to do. It just drives.
Speaker 3: That's the EV owner hatred thing. It's like Tesla owners
Speaker 3: who are like, what do you need buttons for?
Speaker 1: Mate?
Speaker 3: I love reaching, Like in the EV nine, I know
Speaker 3: that there's within my reach. There's a little toggle that
Speaker 3: I go up for warmer, down for cool, like I
Speaker 3: just want that.
Speaker 1: People same movements to your wife.
Speaker 3: Some people after Like you get in a Toyota, you
Speaker 3: want it to be Toyota. Let's be real. Toyota owners
Speaker 3: are Toyota owners. They're so unlikely to buy something else.
Speaker 3: We've talked I think I've talked about you guys before.
Speaker 3: They are so unlikely to buy from a Corolla to
Speaker 3: an I thirty, despite the fact that they're better cars.
Speaker 3: Probably it's a toy If they want to be an
Speaker 3: ev that's probably the car to gain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon they will actually sold quite a few
Speaker 2: of them, so I'll be carefus see how it goes.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The fucking air conditioner was amazing.
Speaker 2: We had three hot days in Melbourne and every EV
Speaker 2: I get into the air conditioner leaves you sweating, not sweating,
Speaker 2: but just not super comfortable, right, especially a Tesla with
Speaker 2: a fucking glass roof.
Speaker 1: Like itating I saw you bring something like that up
Speaker 1: before I'm finally someone gets it, those glass.
Speaker 2: Thing I was freezing and it was like forty degrees outside.
Speaker 2: The air conditioning is like straight out of a highlux
Speaker 2: It is fantastic.
Speaker 3: What's your number?
Speaker 2: Well, in a normal car, it's twenty two. In this
Speaker 2: it was twenty three. Because it was at twenty two,
Speaker 2: I was actually getting.
Speaker 3: Like twenty three. Got a bit of a chowed.
Speaker 1: People walk into my studio and it's literally a fridge,
Speaker 1: like I keep that at naxt Yeah, unlike this was
Speaker 1: like a bloody Croatian sauna.
Speaker 3: That's because they turn the air conditioning off in this building.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I noticed that there is actually
Speaker 1: an air cord something. I was just really not fun
Speaker 1: doing recycling from the fan of the hard drive. But yeah,
Speaker 1: my studio, I keep it like nineteen degrees. Like you
Speaker 1: walk in there, it is a proper fridge. Everyone's like,
Speaker 1: how can you be in here for six hours? This
Speaker 1: is this is how it's got to be your.
Speaker 3: Way of deterring people from coming in, as it tells.
Speaker 1: Me fresh like a piece of old food.
Speaker 2: Speaking which.
Speaker 3: Hanging in the window like a Christmas.
Speaker 1: Fat on this slice of pizza, would you, Trevor, I
Speaker 1: need it warmed up.
Speaker 3: It won't be warm, won't be sloppy, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Does anyone listen to this?
Speaker 1: This is a cheesy crust.
Speaker 3: Had a sponsor.
Speaker 1: By the way, how's your manscape going? Have you used that?
Speaker 2: So we had a Kadogan on the show again and.
Speaker 3: Did you hammer him for the manscape stuff.
Speaker 2: We gifted him the last time and he returned the
Speaker 2: favor and gifted us some manscaping products. So, desk at work,
Speaker 2: I have balled the.
Speaker 1: Odorant, pulls up, pulls on the ball the odorant.
Speaker 3: Is that a real thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That man has worked out how to nail a YouTube clickbait.
Speaker 2: But it's it's he actually said he knows his audience.
Speaker 2: That's why he has beat roll of women frolicking around.
Speaker 3: He knows just hit the hit the hit the ev stuff.
Speaker 3: He knows they hate it, so bring it on. He
Speaker 3: is really just what are you doing? I don't want
Speaker 3: to pull them out? What are you doing, Gordie? That's disgusting.
Speaker 3: Now he's getting his camera, he's going to take photos
Speaker 3: of it. Can you this bloke, this fokes is in
Speaker 3: professional radio? Mate? But how will he edit this out
Speaker 3: or is this staying in the show. I don't think
Speaker 3: he will. I'm going to tell you right now, Paul,
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to edit this out. All right,
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, can you just secretly DM, because Paul,
Speaker 3: sorry Gord, he probably won't even listen to the show
Speaker 3: top and tail it and send it out. So secretly DM,
Speaker 3: Paul Marrick travelong and let us know that he let
Speaker 3: this left this rubbish in.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: It also helps us understand you're listening, because otherwise I'm
Speaker 3: not even sure these bokes have listeners. And I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know why you do it.
Speaker 2: I don't think we do it.
Speaker 3: Honest, he mentioned, do you have a sponsor? Or?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: God? No?
Speaker 3: Okay, well you got to work with your money on this.
Speaker 3: Ah see, that's the problem. And that's what that's where
Speaker 3: Finnick and I had a problem. We started the private feed,
Speaker 3: which just us talking shit and swearing and everything. And
Speaker 3: I would never try and attach a sponsor that because
Speaker 3: I don't want someone saying you can do something right.
Speaker 3: But I would never launch a podcast without a sponsor.
Speaker 2: Such a thing. It's you do it for the love
Speaker 2: pretty much. I mean, if this if we had to
Speaker 2: hire the studio and everything makes sense, but you know,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. So where do you have a
Speaker 2: studio set up at work?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So in the e FGM office upstairs. I've now pretty
Speaker 3: gomd it's got much got three zone so desks, desk
Speaker 3: for me to work at, and I record the FtM
Speaker 3: podcast just at my desk, and then the lounge room,
Speaker 3: which is the Today Show backdrop, and then the corner
Speaker 3: is like this, it's an acoustic area and with three
Speaker 3: cameras for video podcasting. Yeah, because may we do it?
Speaker 3: Thirteen years we never did video because I didn't want
Speaker 3: to fucking edit it. But then AI editing came along
Speaker 3: and I could just drop three tracks in that actually boom,
Speaker 3: Yeah mate, So I dropped three tracks my camera, Steven's
Speaker 3: camera too shot and then the audio sync it up
Speaker 3: and then just go top and tail and then click
Speaker 3: a button and on a good Mac one and a
Speaker 3: half minutes later, a one hour show. He's edited multiicam,
Speaker 3: so when I'm talking, it's on me, when he's talking,
Speaker 3: it's on me on him. It's brilliant. So yeah, like
Speaker 3: I would never plug in or it's plug in for
Speaker 3: w premiere. Thanks for joining us. I want to shave them.
Speaker 1: Why get him out? This is by the way, this
Speaker 1: is yours. I Ne've already got one, but you get another.
Speaker 3: One can I can? I just tell you? Really, I
Speaker 3: want to cry right now. I broke Look, I broke mine.
Speaker 3: Oh so I didn't want to rage. Actually it was
Speaker 3: just the closest thing on my desk and I threw it.
Speaker 3: You're not going to I'm absolutely not gonna.
Speaker 1: Lost because your wife said no to the right.
Speaker 3: You don't want to know how close to the true
Speaker 3: that story is. But it's funny because it's still sitting
Speaker 3: on my desk. But I've put it together again because
Speaker 3: my daughter's like, why have you got a broken cup?
Speaker 3: I'm like, because I feel really bad that I broke.
Speaker 3: This is the nicest bumper stickers you know where I'm
Speaker 3: going to put that? Not on my bumper.
Speaker 1: You're not going to put it on the on the board.
Speaker 3: No, really no, that's not going to have to love
Speaker 3: them on there if you want. No, probably not. Actually no, sorry,
Speaker 3: I just realized, oh no, I could cut it this.
Speaker 3: It's just Paul.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Do you know what? I actually Paul?
Speaker 3: It actually works if he ever needed to, it just
Speaker 3: works fine. Paul Will probably could probably phototo both the Gordy.
Speaker 2: Do you know what?
Speaker 1: Paul sent me a challenge right before you got in
Speaker 1: here was to stick one of those on your coopra
Speaker 1: born and I've just got out to do that. And
Speaker 1: now I realized a friend of fucking Genesis GB sixty,
Speaker 1: So I stuck on it. Anyway. The people, yeah, they
Speaker 1: love me, they do. They genuinely listen to this podcast.
Speaker 3: Bill Henikey. Sorry about the sticker, and is it Pete
Speaker 3: in the garage? I'll pull the sticker off. No, don't
Speaker 3: they love it. Actually, they were hitting me up for merch.
Speaker 3: I've you should put some in the car. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: get them. I'll give them some merch too. You know
Speaker 3: what you meant to do with merch? You meant to
Speaker 3: sell it.
Speaker 1: You know we got we wanted to give it to people,
Speaker 1: and then I realized it's actually bloody expensive.
Speaker 3: It's really hard to send it.
Speaker 1: It's actually really expensive to send it to Pete.
Speaker 3: That's why I gave you boke umbrellas that time, because
Speaker 3: it's possible to sell it.
Speaker 1: That's on my postal by the way, just on that.
Speaker 1: It is genuinely on my to do list this week.
Speaker 1: Can guaranteed it's getting sent out, so ho, So.
Speaker 3: It is people?
Speaker 1: Actually will I think we should eventually sell stuff, but
Speaker 1: we'll get to it this We've got.
Speaker 2: SI just come for seventy nine to ninety five plus
Speaker 2: eighty six dollars.
Speaker 1: It's so bloody expensive to post ship, but I've got
Speaker 1: a one on it. So it's going to be done,
Speaker 1: and it will be done this weekend.
Speaker 3: A one year old promise. It feels like it's a
Speaker 3: really long it took.
Speaker 1: It took a while for the for the great people
Speaker 1: of Machines plus to get as the merge. They were
Speaker 1: moving factories. Anyway, great people, It's next on the list,
Speaker 1: Apple and Tesla.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so again we should stop discussing stuff off fair,
Speaker 2: but we were discussing off air about.
Speaker 3: Well if you had stopped eating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, Gordy eating when I was.
Speaker 1: Jesus.
Speaker 2: So I read in the Afar this morning that Apple
Speaker 2: and Tesla's share prices have taken a hit after they
Speaker 2: announce basically their results in China, both respectively getting boned
Speaker 2: by Chinese public and Chinese government making certain requests of
Speaker 2: citizens to switch phones.
Speaker 3: And Chinese citizens follow their requests too pretty strictly.
Speaker 2: So I'll get to Tesla in a second. Tell me
Speaker 2: with phones, so I use an iPhone have used one
Speaker 2: for ages, used an Android for a little while, didn't
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 1: And the Google phones are great phones. The Google Androids
Speaker 1: are fantastic phone off.
Speaker 2: The pigure just Google right. So now what's happening in
Speaker 2: China is they've been told, certainly for governments, that you
Speaker 2: can't have iPhones. And there was a quote from one
Speaker 2: person who didn't want to be sort of directly named,
Speaker 2: that said, basically, they came to the office and said,
Speaker 2: you've got two weeks to get rid of your iPhones.
Speaker 2: You're switching to Huawei's. Two weeks later, they came with
Speaker 2: a box and anyone that hadn't gotten rid of their
Speaker 2: iPhones was asked to put it in the box. Now
Speaker 2: getting twenty percent off. So they're all excited because it's
Speaker 2: a anyway, the huai Wi they're getting is like some
Speaker 2: high end new thing with some fancy chipset. Yeah, it'll Ironically,
Speaker 2: they were a lot of the people that were quoted
Speaker 2: in this story were concerned about Apple's spywere.
Speaker 3: Like, we if you think about the propaganda that exists
Speaker 3: in Australia over China and Huawei, and for full clarity,
Speaker 3: I have no problem with Huawei. There's no evidence they
Speaker 3: have done anything, so I think a lot of it
Speaker 3: is propaganda.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so on that, I always wanted that myself.
Speaker 3: Huawei, we're not allowed to build the five gene networks.
Speaker 3: Who do you think built the four G networks for
Speaker 3: Optus and vertef fucking we're still using. Well, if they
Speaker 3: wanted to spy, they would have been fucking spying already.
Speaker 2: And that's my Other points to that as well is
Speaker 2: that you can open up it Huawei phone, take every
Speaker 2: single bit apart and examine it to see if it
Speaker 2: has anything. It would have been easy to do by now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm all for if you want to fucking
Speaker 1: spy on me, if you want to put the camera
Speaker 1: on while I'm having a Wang.
Speaker 3: Do it, because good luck to you.
Speaker 1: Can I can just imagine some guy in like China
Speaker 1: as they they're just there at the port.
Speaker 3: So Huawei is just one, right, You've got Popo gell
Speaker 3: me there are so I'm just ignoring him. Stop there
Speaker 3: so many phone brands InChI I think it's bordering on. No,
Speaker 3: it's not even bordering on is it that? You're right?
Speaker 3: It is Gordy by the way, everyone that's Gordy declaration
Speaker 3: Kiss FM, What I mean, have you lost interest in
Speaker 3: what Paul was asking?
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were on about anyway, continued trip.
Speaker 3: You know, there's so many phones over I have no Seriously,
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that they would push that because
Speaker 3: they want their industry to boom, and Huawei has no
Speaker 3: presence outside of China. They've got a sub brand called Honor,
Speaker 3: which does do pretty well in the US, Weirdley and Europe.
Speaker 3: But mate, those companies are so big that they can
Speaker 3: churn out enough phones for everyone there, right. So look,
Speaker 3: Apple is seen by Chinese in the same way as
Speaker 3: the scene here. It's this prestige thing, It's this better
Speaker 3: thing to have. But the fact is that you can
Speaker 3: do better than Apple with just a five hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: You don't really need to buy an iPhone, Paul. You
Speaker 3: could just get used to her bloody a cheap Android phone. Generally.
Speaker 3: Belief stuff this phone here that I'm using right now
Speaker 3: throughout five hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 1: About the camera stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, I took a bunch of photos of my
Speaker 3: son's baseball on the weekend. It was great. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't have any issues with it.
Speaker 2: Like I think it's it's more just with the rest
Speaker 2: of mine.
Speaker 1: Those photos away. I don't want to see one. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: We actually ironically look at that.
Speaker 3: Have you seen that vehicle?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've heard of me. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, So this is a phone company or a tech
Speaker 3: company in China making a fucking electric hire.
Speaker 2: The designer from that designer from.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's a beautiful looking car.
Speaker 1: That's a nice looking car.
Speaker 3: But see, that's what's happening in China. I was in
Speaker 3: Shanghai and I was blown away by the number of
Speaker 3: ev companies that I'd never heard of, Axion or something
Speaker 3: and all these different things. They've got a ship ton
Speaker 3: of cars.
Speaker 2: Chris Banglereo he's helping them now with car design. But
Speaker 2: that's the exciting thing for me with China. They have
Speaker 2: such a booming industry of electric cars and this technology.
Speaker 2: And ironically, the only people, as far as I'm aware
Speaker 2: recently that have spied on anyone with the phone was
Speaker 2: the Australian government when they set up all the criminals,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and wasn't it wasn't there a drama with Yeah,
Speaker 3: wasn't there done with Tether employees looking at dash cam
Speaker 3: or internal car footage or something.
Speaker 2: And that's actually a really valid point, and that's Tesla's
Speaker 2: problem in China at the moment. The Chinese government won't
Speaker 2: allow any Tesla vehicles at government sites because they're concerned
Speaker 2: that it might be transmitting video data. And to be honest,
Speaker 2: I can open my app and look at the camera
Speaker 2: on my car and see what it's doing. But so
Speaker 2: cain Tesla. And that's what employees were busted doing, sharing
Speaker 2: videos of their customers doing shit in an internal group
Speaker 2: that they had. And you can just imagine how further
Speaker 2: that could go if you.
Speaker 3: That is far worse. That is far worse than anything
Speaker 3: Wi was accused of doing, actually at all?
Speaker 1: Will we I feel like we brought up a story
Speaker 1: about some guy who was having issues with his Tesla
Speaker 1: and perhaps an ex Tesla employee managed.
Speaker 2: To got his model y and there was a bloke
Speaker 2: that follows us on Facebook that is what works for Tesla,
Speaker 2: might presume. And anyway, he looked up the vin via
Speaker 2: the regio that old boys had posted on Instagram about
Speaker 2: his Spotify or whatever not working, and this guy was
Speaker 2: sent to DM and goes, I fixed it for you.
Speaker 2: He's like, what do you mean? He goes, I logged
Speaker 2: into the car and reset the thing for you, and
Speaker 2: he's I didn't ask you to do any of that's
Speaker 2: so thank you.
Speaker 3: But this poor guy's kind of thought done elbows a
Speaker 3: favor and he's just poke.
Speaker 2: That guy would know where I live because it will
Speaker 2: show you where the cars parked.
Speaker 1: He might be able to, like he would be able
Speaker 1: to watch our boys drive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that that does consider YouTube.
Speaker 1: But do you know what I mean? Kids do something
Speaker 1: in the back unbelievable wild.
Speaker 2: But anyway, they're now seeing Tesla's had twenty percent taken
Speaker 2: off a share price of a recent They're struggling big
Speaker 2: time in China. They're discounting. They're having to fast track
Speaker 2: these facelifts, which they said they would never do. But
Speaker 2: as it turns out, if you look at all the
Speaker 2: new model threes on the road, there are so many
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw three on the way here in a
Speaker 3: twenty minute.
Speaker 1: New ones do look good.
Speaker 2: It's all old owners and I have castles alerts set
Speaker 2: up for a Model three. There is like fifty a
Speaker 2: day churning through there. It's all people upgrading to the
Speaker 2: new one. When there isn't really that big of a difference.
Speaker 1: If you don't care, I mean, why not, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get People just want the newest thing,
Speaker 2: even though it is really not that different.
Speaker 3: They want the new BMW three series. In the year
Speaker 3: two thousand and I moved. That was in Perth. I
Speaker 3: moved to Sydney in two thousand and one. I was
Speaker 3: a year old and they changed the tough front light
Speaker 3: on mine was like an orange, the indicator of orange
Speaker 3: and it pointed down. And on the new one it
Speaker 3: was white and it pointed up, and the tail light
Speaker 3: was the blinker was white and stead of orange. And
Speaker 3: I fucking traded it in and lost. I lost stupid
Speaker 3: money as a kid, basically and went, well, I've done
Speaker 3: this for a facelift. People do that.
Speaker 1: That's how they get you.
Speaker 2: No one wants to be in.
Speaker 3: The exactly you don't want to be in the old model.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a young Trevor Long just cruising around
Speaker 1: in a VMW three series good times, Yeah, heady das
Speaker 1: driving around the driving down.
Speaker 3: Across the streets of Perth, the tool Shed, Central.
Speaker 1: Coast, Golden Mile, Senni Coast. I used to live on
Speaker 1: the central coast.
Speaker 3: Are living on the peninsula? Mate? Head along?
Speaker 1: Well, Jesus, Okay, it's awkward.
Speaker 3: Not really, because I don't really care. Good times, good
Speaker 3: times where garbage people live. Frankston like Frankston of Victoria.
Speaker 2: Oh so Gordy now has the Chinese and garbage people
Speaker 2: after him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's got a lot of people after him.
Speaker 3: That's why that security goes out there.
Speaker 1: Is actually enjoyed. Take a ticket and wait in line.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Do you look over your shoulder a lot?
Speaker 1: Can you? That's You're very weird tonight.
Speaker 3: I worry about you.
Speaker 1: I'm worrying about your going. I saw you eat that pizza.
Speaker 1: You literally put it between two sizes of bread and
Speaker 1: ate it like a sandwich.
Speaker 3: That's going.
Speaker 1: I know I took down the recipe.
Speaker 2: I did sneak a piece in while you're outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that cheesy crust. I haven't had one of those. Jesus,
Speaker 1: it's not bad.
Speaker 2: Good for Domino.
Speaker 3: Dominos a sponsor of the show.
Speaker 1: They should they should be. We should get a sponsor.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine we could get like e f T
Speaker 1: there you go, send me a proper and you imagined
Speaker 1: made a money by the look of it. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine me doing live reieson for Trevor.
Speaker 2: E?
Speaker 3: M T.
Speaker 1: What's it called? Anyway, if you want technological advice, don't
Speaker 1: send me a proper Do you see that?
Speaker 3: Good people at is doing very well?
Speaker 1: He is doing great.
Speaker 2: He is, he's he's certainly latched onto the electric car
Speaker 2: hitting situations.
Speaker 3: Have great respect for his use of the algorithm. It's brilliant.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if ever I need a torch
Speaker 1: or like a device to shave my balls, he's your man.
Speaker 3: Any machine machine work done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking he fucking has it all. He's that maybe
Speaker 1: you kind of want like.
Speaker 3: You're putting you can you weld this together for me?
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, sure, Yeah, you're fucking it up, you're
Speaker 1: doing it wrong. I'll do it and then he'll tell
Speaker 1: you how much of a dickhead you are for forty
Speaker 1: five minutes, and then you'll probably have a couple of
Speaker 1: beers with you.
Speaker 3: That sounds like pretty much my every day. Someone's calling
Speaker 3: me every day, So that's fine. Today it's you, Gordy.
Speaker 1: We should I'm happy to do some fake business if
Speaker 1: you want some bloody live reads.
Speaker 2: We'll do it.
Speaker 1: We'll do it for free.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I want them. No, send me
Speaker 3: your audience figures and I'll have a look at with
Speaker 3: my tim.
Speaker 1: They're probably tremble of whatever that ev thing. What's it
Speaker 1: called to cars and eating it? What's it called? Two
Speaker 1: blokes and cars?
Speaker 3: Two blokes talking electric cars?
Speaker 1: Have you had any guests on? I mean like owners.
Speaker 3: We just we've had a few owners owners and we
Speaker 3: had a bloke from the Strata Corp. Yeah, we've got
Speaker 3: a few people coming on, a few people coming on. Actually,
Speaker 3: anyoneus feel like this is winding up from Yeah, which
Speaker 3: is I could see to me that he's in radio.
Speaker 1: Yes, why how dare you just the way this works?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is structure to his day thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe this structure in the rest
Speaker 3: of his day and he likes this just to be
Speaker 3: this weirdly fluid ad hoc thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just get in and do our ship. Who cares.
Speaker 1: We don't need to belove.
Speaker 3: I'm not play another song.
Speaker 1: I don't have to fucking talk about justin Bieber. It's good.
Speaker 3: Just play another song.
Speaker 1: Just play another song.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Hours.
Speaker 1: Yes, fucking hell, never listened five and a half long?
Speaker 2: How many of that would you actually be talking?
Speaker 3: Have you ever done that?
Speaker 1: Fine?
Speaker 3: How many? What's the total cumulative minutes of you talking?
Speaker 1: Like twenty seven as not? No, it's not so much.
Speaker 1: It's not long, Like you probably talk for about ninety
Speaker 1: seconds each time, So let's say about ten fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: an hour. You research, You've got to have like, you've
Speaker 1: got to have it down. We can't just do this
Speaker 1: shit right here, you know what I mean? Actually, do
Speaker 1: you know what I did today? I played a woman
Speaker 1: who was in a like a Cole's car park fighting
Speaker 1: into a pipe?
Speaker 2: What was that?
Speaker 1: Actually a thing? I played it on air?
Speaker 2: How did you find it? It was on?
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's definitely TikTok.
Speaker 1: He's on a different what I was like, I was
Speaker 1: talking about the I was talking about the Ken sorry,
Speaker 1: the Barbie movie like Ryan Gosling was singing at the
Speaker 1: Oscars like the Ken song. And I said something along
Speaker 1: the lines of oda they should have done like a
Speaker 1: Barbie crossover with Openheimer about a smart, young independent woman
Speaker 1: who makes an ex explosive device. And then I just
Speaker 1: cut to this woman on TikTok going. I'm in the
Speaker 1: Coles car park. I'm going to fight in a pipe.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I write on the census under employment
Speaker 1: full time dickhead. Thanks for listening everyone. I think that's
Speaker 1: our go. I think we're going to rack.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, six podcasts a week now, don't know you did
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Speaker 3: We sit down a spoiler. Let we record them all
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Speaker 1: We've got some big things, thank you and sorry.
Speaker 3: Big things coming up.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, watch this space get out, Trev.
Speaker 3: I think I might stay to another one.