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Speaker 1: he will hoover.

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Speaker 2: That You've eaten about two thirds of the.

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Speaker 1: He will hoover it. He'll be like, he'll be like,

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Speaker 3: Boys typically listen. I know for a fact that Paul

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Speaker 1: What Trevor does. He's going to put this pizza on

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Speaker 1: like it came up plate, chop it up with a

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Speaker 1: credit card and snuffer like Nadia Bartow. He's an impression

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Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. God, I come here for this? What do

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Speaker 1: That's I've missed you. That's why you've g got a

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Speaker 3: Why do I come here? That's with things? With things, No,

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Speaker 3: I think I can talk about WHI things. Nova is

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Speaker 3: what it is. It's beautiful, but it's a smart watch

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Speaker 3: SOG and pleasure monitoring and watch. Yeah, it's funny. I

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Speaker 3: was at Abu Dhabi airport a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: because I'm an idiot and have bought some. And I

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Speaker 3: was like, they didn't have a Tag store. I'm a tagman,

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Speaker 3: but they had an Omega store. That's I was just

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Speaker 3: entertaining the dude making things. I was gonna buy a watch.

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Speaker 3: I was never gonna buy one, but I looked at

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Speaker 1: I thought, what are you're going for? What were you

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Speaker 3: It was? I don't know what it was, but I

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Speaker 1: You look at that thing. Oh yeah, that would be

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Speaker 1: it would be like the.

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Speaker 3: For a Mega. It was something like a Sea Master

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Speaker 3: or something anyway, looked like that. It was like seven

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Speaker 3: grand euro And I get back open this thing from

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Speaker 3: So you don't have to get a full touch screen

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Speaker 3: that's actually smart watch, because the.

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Speaker 2: Thing I hate about the Apple Watch is that it's

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Speaker 3: Not really Everyone knows you're wearing an Apple watch. They

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Speaker 3: most people don't do anything with this mart watch other

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Speaker 2: Or midway through a conversation fucking lifted up and read

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Speaker 2: a message in front of you, which I think is

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Speaker 2: the rudest fucking thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: Very rude.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you go out to buy a Porsche

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Speaker 3: I would never go out and buy a push a

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Speaker 3: as well. Just on the Porsch thing. Did you see

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Speaker 1: GT the most boring car ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is the one that's oh sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was over four hundred thousand dollars, which is clinically insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, but people are clinically insane. You see what

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Speaker 3: But hang on, do you not like the ty caon?

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Speaker 1: No? No, no, sorry, I had in my head like

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Speaker 1: That's terrible. I get it. I get the important of it.

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Speaker 3: You don't think it will be as a lev So I'm.

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Speaker 2: It haven't looked because it just looks frumpy, right and strange,

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Speaker 3: I was going to so that's the electric parody problem.

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Speaker 3: So we've discussed before. It's still I reckon it's still

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Speaker 3: But if you talk to some people like I remember

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Speaker 3: But he would talk about I remember the Dolphin. When

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Speaker 1: But to the EV world, I think they did pretty

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Speaker 3: I mean they took on the yes, but do you

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Speaker 3: If it was thirty two to thirty five, which is

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel the road. It was such a letdown.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, like a cool provid Are.

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Speaker 3: You trying to take the piece out of my cooper again?

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Speaker 1: So I got a Toyota Supra twenty twenty four, literally

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Speaker 3: I used to have one of those. Sold it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I fucking raved about Oh this is amazing, put Japanese

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Speaker 1: How embarrassed?

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Speaker 1: Embarrassed? Japanese plates?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't ever that much money and just go through cars.

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Speaker 3: I don't want this one anymore.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine having a Japanese style plates. Did you go

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Speaker 1: to like cose of play conventions when you have that?

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I had the Supra.

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Speaker 3: Stop saying that and it's Coopra and Supra. All right?

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Speaker 1: All got now?

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Speaker 1: So I had this car and it's literally just come

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Speaker 3: He's actually mad.

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Speaker 1: Like he's he's that guy. So anyway, he's like, don't

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Speaker 1: Like I haven't fucked that many he's like, but he's like, please, look,

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Speaker 1: toyo to photo shoot. It's for a World WLD campaign. Please,

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Speaker 1: Like the instructions are, don't don't funk this up, no worries.

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Speaker 1: Two days later, I fucked this up, so the engines

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Speaker 1: That's what I did. I just drove it and the

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Speaker 3: What do you write on your immigration form? What do

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Speaker 2: It depends. Sometimes I do journalists, sometimes I do engineers,

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Speaker 1: If you go to China, do you do you leave

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Speaker 1: No anyway, So what happened with this?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, But what happened was the warning on

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's like, can you bring it back and

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Speaker 3: All right, that's a nice run to the mountain.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. So this was the land cruiser gr and

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Speaker 1: I got in and I'm like, this steering wheels a

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Speaker 1: bits of donut everywhere and just like there'd be crumbs

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Speaker 1: like it was really like God, yeah, sure, so I

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Speaker 3: How to escalate from donuts to there.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, well let's just say, how many donuts are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you like a three donut man? How many can you?

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't I wouldn't go less than six, donut king, I

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Speaker 1: You the donut kid.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy with that. Title.

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Speaker 1: So I caught Paul and I was like, you never

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Speaker 2: Do with it. You're buying into it's a bit like

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Speaker 2: And it's going to complicate things next year with this

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Speaker 3: Each year they in the US.

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Speaker 3: So if all the car companies do what Toyota do

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Speaker 2: was from the FCAI, where they claimed Model Y would

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Speaker 2: be fifteen grand cheaper. Oh wow, Tesla cractic because like,

440
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Speaker 2: hold on, you're advertising everywhere that a model is going

441
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Speaker 2: to be fifteen grand cheaper because they've assumed that Tesla's

442
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Speaker 2: going to drop the price by fifteen grand. It's like no, no, no,

443
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Speaker 2: they'll do the pocket the fifteen grand because why would

444
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Speaker 2: you and what they're experiencing I suspect because they never

445
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Speaker 2: come out with statements unless it's from Musk. So the

446
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Speaker 2: Australian manager, whoever the fuck he is, has come out

447
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Speaker 2: with a written statement that he sent to media saying

448
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Speaker 2: they're pulling out because they must have seen a sales

449
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Speaker 2: decline by people going well, hold on.

450
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Speaker 3: Because they think the price is going to fluctuate, so

451
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Speaker 3: master Jet.

452
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Speaker 2: And the reason that the price is going to fluctuate

453
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Speaker 2: for people that don't understand this is the government is

454
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Speaker 2: basically saying that if your average fleet is above a

455
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Speaker 2: certain emissions level, we're going to hit you with a

456
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Speaker 2: fee that you can either buy credits from other brands

457
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Speaker 2: or get fined for.

458
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Speaker 1: Can I just say, this whole system looking outside in

459
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 1: feel so fucking flawed because if it's all about buying credit,

460
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Speaker 1: or if you can get away with buying credits and

461
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Speaker 1: doing this, the whole point of it is to meet

462
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Speaker 1: admissions targets exactly. Do you know what I mean?

463
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Speaker 3: It's like environment It's like the carbon tax stuff. It's like,

464
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Speaker 3: rather than cutting your emissions and doing good for the environment,

465
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Speaker 3: just buy some credits.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll find you and we'll get money for that.

467
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Speaker 1: But oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing this for emissions targets.

468
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Speaker 2: Like longer term. The plan is to say, well, if

469
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Speaker 2: you want to stop getting fined, you need to bring

470
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Speaker 2: in better stuff. But therein lies the problem. Someone like Toyota,

471
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Speaker 2: who sells.

472
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Speaker 3: By the way I thought personally, when I looked at

473
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Speaker 3: it first and foremost, I thought it would be okay

474
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Speaker 3: because of the amount of hybrids they sell.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought, But it's off by the

476
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Speaker 2: amount of land cruise o Pratos land cruises and highluxes.

477
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Speaker 2: The problem is though that there is I don't think

478
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Speaker 2: anyone in this world wants the world to end for

479
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Speaker 2: climate to go bad. No one wants that. So if

480
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Speaker 2: you're out there driving around Australia telling a caravan, you

481
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 2: don't want the world to end. But also you don't

482
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Speaker 2: want to be driving an electric car that's going to

483
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Speaker 2: get one hundred k's up the road and you're going

484
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Speaker 2: to need a charge. If you're a tradee you don't

485
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Speaker 2: have outside of that OLDV and electric uit that you

486
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Speaker 2: can buy, So what's at a premium?

487
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Speaker 3: And doesn't ITV?

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just.

489
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Speaker 2: All of these problems with the equation and they keep

490
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Speaker 2: talking about how they want to compare it to the US.

491
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Speaker 2: The US actually has an exemption for footprints, so the

492
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Speaker 2: bigger the vehicle, the less it is required to have

493
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Speaker 2: alignment with the missions. And they have a lot of

494
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Speaker 2: big VI, which is the top three best selling cars

495
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Speaker 2: in the States, of the F series Ram and the Silverada.

496
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Speaker 2: So I think that Australia needs to get real understand

497
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Speaker 2: that people buy the cars they do for whatever reasons

498
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Speaker 2: they do. Yes, you have an element of people who

499
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 2: buy them to just stuff around him. But if you

500
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Speaker 2: are buying it because you have no alternative, Toyota is

501
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: going to pass the cost onto you. And if you're

502
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: a trade that extra cost they're paying for their ute

503
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: is going to go to you when they come to

504
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: do something in your house.

505
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Speaker 1: And also, where's the choice, Like it feels so fucking

506
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Speaker 1: draconian to say you can't really buy the car you want.

507
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: If you want a big car, no, no, no, do

508
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Speaker 1: you know I'm telling me what to do? Yeah.

509
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Speaker 2: I come from Victoria, where for two years we were

510
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Speaker 2: told what to.

511
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Speaker 3: Do and where to go.

512
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Speaker 2: People are sick of it.

513
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Speaker 1: Hey, he's paying the price now you can't get into

514
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Speaker 1: the Portzy golf club. Cut him some slack.

515
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Speaker 2: I caught up with Pricey the other day and I said, mate,

516
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Speaker 2: hold up the sorry, just pick up that name.

517
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Speaker 1: You just drunk.

518
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Speaker 2: Do not let him in? Under any to let him in,

519
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Speaker 2: I said, don't worry, We're not letting.

520
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Speaker 1: Hey. You know, when you make some terrible decisions in

521
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Speaker 1: your life, I've made a few, obviously, most of them

522
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Speaker 1: I've asked to kindly like go through the window.

523
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Speaker 3: For most of them you had to text them pass

524
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Speaker 3: them to delete the video go.

525
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. But I just don't think think anything could

526
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: quite stack up as badly as the mistake of buying

527
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Speaker 1: an EV nine. And that's exactly what you're doing.

528
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Speaker 3: A mistakes.

529
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Speaker 1: Oh holy fuck me in the dick.

530
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Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

531
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Speaker 2: I actually think is that it's a fantastic looking car.

532
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: But Gordy, the guy that is wearing fucking glasses and

533
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: can't actually see anything.

534
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Speaker 3: I know. The first thing I said when I posted

535
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Speaker 3: about it, was this is a polarizing car, no doubt,

536
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Speaker 3: no doubt, it's polarizing, but you got it. Like my

537
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 3: situation is this. I got three kids, the teenagers. We

538
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Speaker 3: own a key A Carnival. It's four years old. And

539
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Speaker 3: like I would never I didn't even think I was

540
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Speaker 3: buying a new car this year. But I'd had the

541
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Speaker 3: EV nine. I had the air in the earth over

542
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 3: like two different weeks in late January maybe, And so

543
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Speaker 3: the wife saw it in the driver. She doesn't look

544
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Speaker 3: at press cars, doesn't drive them, won't go near them,

545
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Speaker 3: but she'd seen it in the driver, and you know,

546
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Speaker 3: friends with Blake with a pride come around, looked at it,

547
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Speaker 3: and you know, people talk about the cars and driveway.

548
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Speaker 3: And then I get a call from the dude that

549
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Speaker 3: does my fine and it goes the Carnival's up and

550
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Speaker 3: I went, what do you mean? Like, what do you

551
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: mean up? He goes, the lease is finished? You got

552
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Speaker 3: to pay it out or what are you going to do?

553
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: I went shit, I had no idea. Get home, say

554
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Speaker 3: to the wife, We've got to get a new Carnival. Okay, cool, cool.

555
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 3: I go to a Keya dealer with in my head,

556
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Speaker 3: I want to trade it in. I want to get

557
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Speaker 3: a new Carnival. Like I'm there to fucking buy and

558
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: this is the same fucking dealership that I tried to

559
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Speaker 3: buy the carnival from originally but wouldn't give me a quote. Irrelevant.

560
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: So I walk in. I go to this bike mate,

561
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Speaker 3: I want to buy a new Carnival. Twelve month wait mate,

562
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Speaker 3: I went on a key a Carnival. He goes, yep,

563
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Speaker 3: I went okay, and that was it? Like, I'm like,

564
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Speaker 3: is that it? And he goes. I said, can I

565
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: get a value on mine? Like a trade in value?

566
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Speaker 3: He goes, you know? Does He opens up a fucking

567
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Speaker 3: website and looks through like.

568
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Speaker 1: Carsa like a read book.

569
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, mane, I could do this at home.

570
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Speaker 3: And here's the thing. There's two even nines in the shows,

571
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Speaker 3: two in the show room. He doesn't even think to say, oh,

572
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Speaker 3: you've got a family, Like, doesn't even try to sell

573
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Speaker 3: me a car.

574
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Speaker 1: Right.

575
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Speaker 3: So I have this conversation with Fennick on our podcast,

576
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Speaker 3: just just ranting and raving boke emails. Me goes, mate,

577
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: just say, you know, I work for such and such,

578
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: happy to help you out if you do decide to

579
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Speaker 3: go down there. No, And so I said, mate, happy

580
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Speaker 3: to have a look at the price. Because then I

581
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: got back to the wife and she goes, should we

582
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Speaker 3: be getting a carnival or should we get that environmental thing?

583
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Speaker 3: My life's pretty pretty forward thinking on the on the

584
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Speaker 3: environmental front. We're recycling every fucking thing in the house.

585
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: We've got bins for everything. And I went, that's basically

586
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Speaker 3: green light from my wife by the EV nine right.

587
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Speaker 3: So I work real hard on the numbers. I get

588
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Speaker 3: it down to basically the same price because the carnivals

589
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: are actually a pretty good trade right now. So I

590
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Speaker 3: do it over five years and stead of four or whatever,

591
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Speaker 3: and I get down to the same price. And mate,

592
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Speaker 3: I've fucking I've got my deposit down on EV nine

593
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: and it arrives this week, like it happened real quick.

594
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Speaker 1: What coloen you get black? Okay, because we've got black

595
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Speaker 1: black carnival back.

596
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Speaker 3: Yeah it was on a boat. There may have been

597
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Speaker 3: a phone call, mate, but yeah it was it was

598
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Speaker 3: on us.

599
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Speaker 1: I am no, who are you travel long?

600
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Speaker 3: I mean someone else got a phone call that said

601
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: your EV nine Earth is delayed by two months. But

602
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: arrived and I'm picking it up on Thursday, and so

603
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 3: odd I did, like I had a bit of a

604
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 3: panic after kind of signing paperwork and stuff, being like, fuck,

605
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: have I done the right thing here? And it is

606
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 3: polarizing to look at. But I got another press car

607
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: and I told her why she has to drive it

608
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: because she's just went up to the park and back.

609
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Speaker 3: And she she was she never driven, like, she hasn't

610
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: driven the coop. Yeah, right, she's never driven it. So

611
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: she thought it was weird and heavy, but it was fine.

612
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: And then I got one a couple of weeks ago

613
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Speaker 3: to drive for the last time to my mum's place,

614
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Speaker 3: which is a six hour drive, right, So I thought,

615
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Speaker 3: I've got my got family in the country, and you

616
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Speaker 3: charge that up and you took for I had a

617
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Speaker 3: great bin. I had a great drive. I loved it

618
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: on the windy bits, on the stretches, every it was

619
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Speaker 3: just great. So I went, I'm really happy this is

620
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Speaker 3: the car made. It's a great car. It really is.

621
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Speaker 3: It's expensive.

622
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: Here's it.

623
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Speaker 3: Look, it's a great car.

624
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Speaker 1: It is. It is really pulverizing, right to look at

625
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: your right to me, I was like, that is I

626
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: and this isn't Adyss with ka. I fucking love Key.

627
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: I had a stinger. I love Keay is great, I

628
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: love it care But it was just I looked at

629
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Speaker 1: this and I thought, not a great looking car. But

630
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Speaker 1: my main thing was, it's such a specific audience that

631
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: would buy this one an EV A big evn is

632
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: it seven seats seven seat EV roughly one hundred and

633
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. Not a cheap car. So you're rolling

634
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Speaker 1: around in quite a luxurious beat. It's a business along

635
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: it is. But John Support, I thought to myself, there's

636
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Speaker 1: such a specific audience with this and you are that.

637
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Speaker 3: No, I don't expect they're going to sell in huge numbers,

638
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: but I don't think they do either. I think this

639
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: is a this is a flagship vehicle for them. It's

640
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: a vehicle that's like, let's be real, this is the

641
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: biggest electric car you can buy in Australia. And if

642
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: I was in America, I'd be buying a Rivian like

643
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: I'd be buying something like that because I think it's

644
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: awesome to have that. It comes good too. It's little

645
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: for my liking. But see, in a look sense, I

646
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: still think the model, why is the fucking ugliest car

647
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: on the road today, and if I see another fucking

648
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: white one, like it's just everywhere right, and it's you know,

649
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: it's worse. Now, this is the the worst thing about

650
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: having a car that changes. It's going to look even

651
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: worse when they bring out the update later this year

652
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: because it's not the new test. Model three looks fucking

653
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: beautiful compared to the old one. Imagine how good the

654
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: Why is going to look at all these thousands of

655
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: people have got the Model Why.

656
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Speaker 1: It's fun. I got to say that, No wonder people

657
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: wrap those, you know, they come in such a limited amount.

658
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: It is weird how many people do that, isn't it.

659
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: I've got one near us. It's like a rainbow, you know,

660
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: that oil slick style that looks different in tears.

661
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: Model three. Well, I was actually going to say, I

662
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: like the EV night and we were just discussing off

663
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: air that I thought the GT line was just a

664
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: bit much. The fucking digital mirrors.

665
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: I cannot stand driving a Genesis with them now, and

666
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: it's like, why can't they just put the screens yes

667
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: up where you would normally look at a mirror.

668
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Did you have you got remotely in use to those

669
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: because I found by the end of it, I was like,

670
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: I get it. They kind of like the mirrors do.

671
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: Tech wise, they do some pretty incredible more and all that.

672
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 3: I get it.

673
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: I get it too, right, But I still, honestly for a.

674
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: Mirror, it doesn't I don't think.

675
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: No. But I don't think it's anything wrong with the technology.

676
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: I think it's the placement of the little screens out

677
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: is the same when you look out the windows, like

678
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be able to see the fucking camera. I

679
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: should exactly put the screen up there so it's covering it,

680
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 3: just a little bit of the windows.

681
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: No sense, right, the fact that you can see the camera.

682
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: They've done it like, oh, we don't want to block

683
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: the camera.

684
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: It's like put the screen up. But I don't like audio.

685
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: I don't like digital review mirrors either.

686
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what they come in handy if you've

687
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: got a seven seater because you can see through seven seats,

688
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: or a car that has a tiny fucking rear window.

689
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Those big black cars. If you get transported to the

690
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: airport in you know the Yeah, but you're.

691
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: Young and healthy, your eyes are good. So actually I

692
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: don't think that because I wear glasses for reading. I

693
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: actually don't think I can focus properly on the digital

694
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: review mirror when when you look at the mirror weirdly

695
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: you are focusing in the distance.

696
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: That's yeah.

697
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: But when the mirror is here and it's a screen.

698
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: That you're focusing on, that I don't think as well.

699
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: But my issue with those digital side mirrors is perspective

700
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: because if you're parking up like where I do, up

701
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: against a wall, I use my head to move around

702
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: to get different angles on the mirror. When you do

703
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: that on a digital side mirror angles it doesn't move

704
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: at all.

705
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 3: Now you think, aren't they a little bit more kind

706
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: of wide angle? Isn't there a bit more?

707
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: You just yeah, in low light especially, you just don't

708
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: know what.

709
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, low light is bad.

710
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Evan on one's great, And so do

711
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: you think I've been here? Do you think, like, seriously,

712
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: the one you've gone for is the best, because to me,

713
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: the top speck was just a bit much.

714
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: It doesn't have much range from the air, just doesn't

715
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: have enough range for me.

716
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: Where you've landed is perfect. And the ride's better as well,

717
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: like it is actually quite nice.

718
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: And the fact that it doesn't have a while to

719
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: have a car play is the most disgraceful thing in

720
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: history given in the US, it does, but you know.

721
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: What the fuck's going from? That will be a software update. Well,

722
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: we just tested the ConA Electric. It actually came and

723
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: it's got the same same yaement system versions and stuff.

724
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: It actually came with a software update that added wireless

725
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: car play while we had the car.

726
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: They're starting shit, really, yeah, are starting to roll over? Really,

727
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: I think we're the same.

728
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, entertainment system firmware supports it. It's just sorry the

729
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: hardware supports of the firm where they need right day. Yes,

730
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: So I think it's I think it's a good choice.

731
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: A question just on the podcast as well. Your new podcast,

732
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: tell us first the name of it. So when anyone with.

733
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: Two bugs talking electric cars really really vague thinking. But

734
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: we've been doing two bugs talking text Stephen Fennick and

735
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: I for thirteen years, and so when we're going to

736
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: do EV's because he's got one, I've got one. We

737
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: talk about him all the time. We know as well,

738
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 3: Bens right, he's in the eque. He owned a model

739
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: S for Yes for five years and then they stopped

740
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: making them. Here for left right, hand right, So he

741
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: just went fuck you and brought the Mercedes. I've got

742
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: the Cooper and so we started that. So yeah, it's

743
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: just yeah, it's just we're trying to go to the

744
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: lowest common denomina in terms of it's not for it's

745
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: not really for EV owner. It's for people that want

746
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: to know more, want to learn more, want to understand more.

747
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: You know, you can kind of jump in and hear stuff.

748
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: That's a smart idea because I think that's this is

749
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: now the time to do it. People are starting to

750
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: really like prick their heads out.

751
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: I don't think we're late. I think we're I think

752
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: we're at the right point. I think it's a tipping

753
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: point for people to go. I know, I like we

754
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: talked last week to a bloke from the Strata Committee

755
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: strata owners about EV's ownership. He had a really like

756
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: positive take on EV's and fire safety. I'm like, okay,

757
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: so that was interesting. So now I'm going to get

758
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: fire department on and go, what can you tell me

759
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: your side of the story, because I think it's important

760
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: to hear the whole argument about stuff. Plus, I like

761
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: Phoenix doesn't leave the city. It was barely drives over

762
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: the fucking bridge to come to my studio to do

763
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: the show. But I leave the city. I've done a

764
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: lot of driving and charging. I took the ford E

765
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: Transit van to my mum's at Walker. It was the

766
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: fucking hardest thing I've ever done because on highway it's

767
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: the least efficient highway drive and ev I've ever seen.

768
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: It's so thirty per hundred and man fuck, I was

769
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: so nervous about making it there. And I was at

770
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: scone at the one ny fifty killer what charger and

771
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: I had to go to one hundred. I had to

772
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: go to at least ninety two to get enough range

773
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: to get to Tamworth. Poor bloke in a BYD turns

774
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: up well five minutes and I'm like, mate, I'm going

775
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: to be here in chat for a fuckingn hour. Buddy

776
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: good one was.

777
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Half of it sticking out as well, because it's got

778
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Speaker 2: the charging thing at the front.

779
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: Ye.

780
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: Now that's the other thing I didn't get. It's like

781
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: it's a big workman. And then if you go to

782
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: like a shopping center car park, you're blocking half the

783
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: rock because the thing is sticking in there. But one topic,

784
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: actually two topics. We rolled out electric vehicle charging in

785
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: our old building. I was the OC manager there and

786
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: it was expensive, and funnily enough, one of the guys

787
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: that was fucking jumping up and down about this constantly

788
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: while we were getting a consultant to work on the

789
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: plans and everything didn't end up fucking getting it, even

790
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: though he bought a Tesla and didn't think about charging

791
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: until he got at home. We spent a year installing

792
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: all this stuff and he didn't end up putting it

793
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: in because he thought it was too expensive. And he goes, oh,

794
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: that's too much, I can get it installed for this,

795
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: I said, hold on, fucking listen to me. I'm not.

796
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: I don't need an actrician.

797
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: To come and plug it up for you. We have

798
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: a load manager so that when it gets to summer

799
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: and there's fucking fifty people trying to charge their cars,

800
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: that it can load. Shehad, So we actually have electricity, yes,

801
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: and we don't need you the selfish guy who wants

802
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: to just plug up through your killer one. Meagine if

803
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: there's fifty of you selfish guys, we wouldn't have any electricity.

804
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: So it's it's those types of people who are tight

805
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: asses that don't want to then spend because it is

806
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: more expensive than doing it at home.

807
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: You can't just put two grand war box on. You've

808
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: got to do like you'd be that guy. Is that

809
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: what we're saying?

810
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be that guy. No, it's a fair point,

811
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: like if he doesn't really want to say the difference

812
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: is the plug in sort of mount that you've got

813
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: to get. Say, he's got to spend like four grand.

814
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't know too much about the setup, but say

815
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: he's going to spend four grand as opposed to what

816
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: do you have to pay this strata people?

817
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: Look, I'll find the number, but it was it was

818
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: not four grand. It was like, let's call it eighteen

819
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. And he thought he could get it for

820
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: five hundred.

821
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: So he's being a third of ye.

822
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked again, befo all we came on here

823
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: about the kind of community that is ev owners, especially

824
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: on Facebook, and I had to leave a couple of

825
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: Facebook groups because I saw too many people sending links

826
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 3: to like Alley Express and all this to buy fucking

827
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: charges and shits, And I'm thinking that is not author

828
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: that is not regulated in Australia. That's The ship that's

829
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: going to bring this whole industry down is dodgy chargers.

830
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: And the problem is not enough cars come with cables.

831
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 3: Isn't it weird that you buy an evop Cooper came

832
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: with the public charging style, you know, Type two to

833
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: Type two were not a home granny charger. The key,

834
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: I think comes with a granny charger, which I think

835
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: all cars should come with, plug it in at home

836
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: into a PowerPoint. But you get people who buy a

837
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: you know, a charger at home. I don't want to

838
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 3: say war Box because that's a brand. That's what I've got.

839
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: The awesome They buy charger, they get installed at home,

840
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: and it doesn't have a cable on it, So you

841
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: buy then a cable. Now, the problem is if they

842
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: buy a cheap shit cable that isn't rated for the

843
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: for the power they're outputting, that is going to be

844
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: the weak link in the chain. It's not the car

845
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: that catchers fight. It's barely the electricity in the home.

846
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: It's the charger or the fucking cable.

847
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, you tell someone who's pretty sort

848
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: of set in their ways and an ev is a

849
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: big thing for them, like I look at my old man,

850
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: and he was like talking about getting a Model three.

851
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: At one point I was like, Eh, don't do it,

852
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it. But I guarantee he'd

853
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: be this sort of person that'd be like, ah, look,

854
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: I'll just fucking go on the internet without telling anyone

855
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: buy something off Amazon.

856
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: You spent like sixty grand on a car, and then

857
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: you go on that like I say, I paid eighteen

858
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: hundred bucks for my war box. I think you get

859
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: him a bit cheaper. But my mine's got a Wi

860
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: Fi and all that kind of cool control, and I

861
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: know I could have got something. I think Tesla had

862
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: him for like seven fifty or something. Right, that's the

863
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: minimum I spend. If you're spending lesson the Tesla charger,

864
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on?

865
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: And is it doing it? It's like and you know

866
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: the other thing as well, that a topic for you

867
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: your podcast, which I'm about to come up to now,

868
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: is what happens at the end of a novate at

869
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: least because our model, why we got that ovated least

870
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: to take advantage of the FBT exemption. Right, my two

871
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: years is coming up in August, and I've got the

872
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: balloon payment of forty three grand. Currently the cars are

873
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: listed second hand trade money for about fifty five. So

874
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: at the moment, great, But what's going to happen year

875
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: three when you've got everyone who went for a three

876
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: year at least instead of a two and the resale

877
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: values of these teslas are crashing at the moment.

878
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: The international stuff for because so many were born and

879
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: a lot were.

880
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: Used for Uber for all this sort of stuff, so

881
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 2: they're all just ditching them.

882
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: The battery, spe degeneration and all that.

883
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: And also on top of that, you've got when you

884
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: take advantage of the FBT exemption, you've already saved X

885
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. You haven't paid GST upfront either, so you're

886
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: going to dump it for whatever the balloon is. And

887
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: the balloon is less than market value. So you're going

888
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: to see in at the two year mark, which I'm

889
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: at in August, and at the three year mark the

890
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: following year, which is when they first dropped Model Y,

891
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: you're going to see the prices of these drops. So

892
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: I'd be curious to know for anyone else that's in

893
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: that situation what they're doing, whether they just trade it

894
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: in for another one and keep the cycle going, and

895
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: if they do what happens with the second hand one?

896
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: Do they just list it for a cheap amount and

897
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: then you bring the price of everyone who didn't get

898
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: the FBT except Novade at least set up.

899
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: So do you when the government regulation thing to him

900
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: it earlier came on about a month or two ago,

901
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: Hadley rang me and want to be on here to

902
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 3: talk to try and explain it to people, right yep,

903
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: in Layman's terms. And he's pretty relaxed with me and

904
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: doesn't try and push things too hard. So I was

905
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: I had him on board broadly the ev train, right,

906
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: which is a big milestone, and he was like, yes,

907
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: but what about the battery? So now I want to

908
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: ask you this because I thought about it. I thought,

909
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: in five years from now, you're going to go to

910
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: car sales, you're going to look at cars, and right

911
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: now you look at a Keyer Carnival twenty twenty model

912
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: and it's got one hundred thousand k's or forty thousand

913
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: k's or you know, that's pretty much your measure of

914
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: the difference. Do you think we'll get to a point

915
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: where you list a car with battery health? Yeah, battery

916
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: health like maximum range.

917
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: People already go into marketplace or something, people already take

918
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: photos of, say if they're selling a Tesla, they'll already

919
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: take photos of the battery health stuff on the screen

920
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: because I think that's the measure uptop as well.

921
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: You know they'll do that because surely the measure of

922
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: one Tesla's value, one electric cars value versus another one

923
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: of the exact same age and condition is how good

924
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: is the battery? So essentially what is the remaining range?

925
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: Because that that's going to be the big difference between

926
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: two cars, isn't it.

927
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: And that's going to be an industry as well. We

928
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: met this company at where was it, I think it

929
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: was at the Munich Motor Show, and they were a

930
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: startup Silicon Valley startup and they basically were selling this

931
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: technology to car companies to be able to do remote

932
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: field diagnoses of their vehicles batteries, but very in depth.

933
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: I think that is going to be the next big

934
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: industry where you can get an OBD port or an

935
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: app or something that will allow you to diagnose a

936
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: battery and test sell integrity so that when you sell

937
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: a car you can have a certified.

938
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: Like the old days, you get there to come along and.

939
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: Do a check of a car, say like diale and

940
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: kind of like sheet system like the old days when

941
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: they'd like wine their.

942
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: But I would want that because there is a big

943
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: difference between a car that is constantly DC fast charged

944
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: and a car that is slow charged. Yes, and there's

945
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: also a difference between a sort of a typical lithium

946
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: ion battery and an LFP battery.

947
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: So someone who bothered to put the eighty percent limit

948
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: on who didn't and all those kind of things. If

949
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: I was someone who had really good financial backing on

950
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 3: my website, I'd be launching like an EV car sales,

951
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, with a different name obviously because you didn't

952
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 3: want legal weathers, but no genuine on being shape raise

953
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: it with our boards because I think that I think

954
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: we've got trading post style marketplaces happen now. But that's

955
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: old school, right. The new school is going to be

956
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: a people just searching for an EV especially with the

957
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: flood of cars that are going to hit the marketers

958
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: you've identified and make it for the buyer. So you

959
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: can't list your car unless you've shown evidence of its

960
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: current range at eighty or one hundred percent. You know,

961
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: those kind of things, so that you really showing the

962
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: value of the core technology of the car, not the

963
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: fact that it's shiny and you've looked after the seats.

964
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: What is the drive train of this car?

965
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, it's it's really fascinating and I think I

966
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: just tested the toy at to BZ four X.

967
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: What the fuck is with that name? It's it is

968
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: a stupid name.

969
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: It's like it's been named after one of Elon Musk's kids.

970
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: That's right, the one is actually funny from you very good,

971
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, that that car is I think a car

972
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: that's misunderstood by a lot of people. A lot of

973
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: people are complaining about how shit is it is as

974
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: an EV and that sort of stuff. But to me,

975
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: that is a car that if you drive a camera

976
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 2: right now, you can go drive that and it's the same.

977
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: It's got buttons for everything. Everything is foreign and weird.

978
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: There's no weird shit you have to do. It just drives.

979
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: That's the EV owner hatred thing. It's like Tesla owners

980
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: who are like, what do you need buttons for?

981
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: Mate?

982
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: I love reaching, Like in the EV nine, I know

983
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: that there's within my reach. There's a little toggle that

984
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: I go up for warmer, down for cool, like I

985
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: just want that.

986
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: People same movements to your wife.

987
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: Some people after Like you get in a Toyota, you

988
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: want it to be Toyota. Let's be real. Toyota owners

989
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: are Toyota owners. They're so unlikely to buy something else.

990
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: We've talked I think I've talked about you guys before.

991
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: They are so unlikely to buy from a Corolla to

992
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 3: an I thirty, despite the fact that they're better cars.

993
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: Probably it's a toy If they want to be an

994
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: ev that's probably the car to gain.

995
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon they will actually sold quite a few

996
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: of them, so I'll be carefus see how it goes.

997
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The fucking air conditioner was amazing.

998
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: We had three hot days in Melbourne and every EV

999
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: I get into the air conditioner leaves you sweating, not sweating,

1000
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: but just not super comfortable, right, especially a Tesla with

1001
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: a fucking glass roof.

1002
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: Like itating I saw you bring something like that up

1003
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: before I'm finally someone gets it, those glass.

1004
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: Thing I was freezing and it was like forty degrees outside.

1005
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: The air conditioning is like straight out of a highlux

1006
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: It is fantastic.

1007
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: What's your number?

1008
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: Well, in a normal car, it's twenty two. In this

1009
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: it was twenty three. Because it was at twenty two,

1010
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: I was actually getting.

1011
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: Like twenty three. Got a bit of a chowed.

1012
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: People walk into my studio and it's literally a fridge,

1013
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: like I keep that at naxt Yeah, unlike this was

1014
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: like a bloody Croatian sauna.

1015
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: That's because they turn the air conditioning off in this building.

1016
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I noticed that there is actually

1017
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: an air cord something. I was just really not fun

1018
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: doing recycling from the fan of the hard drive. But yeah,

1019
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: my studio, I keep it like nineteen degrees. Like you

1020
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: walk in there, it is a proper fridge. Everyone's like,

1021
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: how can you be in here for six hours? This

1022
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: is this is how it's got to be your.

1023
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: Way of deterring people from coming in, as it tells.

1024
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Me fresh like a piece of old food.

1025
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: Speaking which.

1026
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: Hanging in the window like a Christmas.

1027
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: Fat on this slice of pizza, would you, Trevor, I

1028
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: need it warmed up.

1029
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: It won't be warm, won't be sloppy, that's for sure.

1030
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Does anyone listen to this?

1031
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: This is a cheesy crust.

1032
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: Had a sponsor.

1033
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: By the way, how's your manscape going? Have you used that?

1034
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: So we had a Kadogan on the show again and.

1035
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: Did you hammer him for the manscape stuff.

1036
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: We gifted him the last time and he returned the

1037
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: favor and gifted us some manscaping products. So, desk at work,

1038
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: I have balled the.

1039
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: Odorant, pulls up, pulls on the ball the odorant.

1040
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: Is that a real thing?

1041
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1042
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: That man has worked out how to nail a YouTube clickbait.

1043
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: But it's it's he actually said he knows his audience.

1044
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: That's why he has beat roll of women frolicking around.

1045
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: He knows just hit the hit the hit the ev stuff.

1046
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: He knows they hate it, so bring it on. He

1047
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: is really just what are you doing? I don't want

1048
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: to pull them out? What are you doing, Gordie? That's disgusting.

1049
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: Now he's getting his camera, he's going to take photos

1050
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: of it. Can you this bloke, this fokes is in

1051
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: professional radio? Mate? But how will he edit this out

1052
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: or is this staying in the show. I don't think

1053
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: he will. I'm going to tell you right now, Paul,

1054
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to edit this out. All right,

1055
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, can you just secretly DM, because Paul,

1056
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: sorry Gord, he probably won't even listen to the show

1057
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 3: top and tail it and send it out. So secretly DM,

1058
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 3: Paul Marrick travelong and let us know that he let

1059
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: this left this rubbish in.

1060
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: That's it.

1061
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: It also helps us understand you're listening, because otherwise I'm

1062
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: not even sure these bokes have listeners. And I don't know.

1063
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why you do it.

1064
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't think we do it.

1065
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: Honest, he mentioned, do you have a sponsor? Or?

1066
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: What?

1067
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: No?

1068
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: God? No?

1069
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: Okay, well you got to work with your money on this.

1070
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: Ah see, that's the problem. And that's what that's where

1071
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: Finnick and I had a problem. We started the private feed,

1072
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: which just us talking shit and swearing and everything. And

1073
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: I would never try and attach a sponsor that because

1074
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: I don't want someone saying you can do something right.

1075
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: But I would never launch a podcast without a sponsor.

1076
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: Such a thing. It's you do it for the love

1077
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: pretty much. I mean, if this if we had to

1078
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: hire the studio and everything makes sense, but you know,

1079
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: it is what it is. So where do you have a

1080
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: studio set up at work?

1081
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1082
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: So in the e FGM office upstairs. I've now pretty

1083
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: gomd it's got much got three zone so desks, desk

1084
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: for me to work at, and I record the FtM

1085
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: podcast just at my desk, and then the lounge room,

1086
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: which is the Today Show backdrop, and then the corner

1087
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: is like this, it's an acoustic area and with three

1088
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: cameras for video podcasting. Yeah, because may we do it?

1089
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: Thirteen years we never did video because I didn't want

1090
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: to fucking edit it. But then AI editing came along

1091
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: and I could just drop three tracks in that actually boom,

1092
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah mate, So I dropped three tracks my camera, Steven's

1093
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: camera too shot and then the audio sync it up

1094
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 3: and then just go top and tail and then click

1095
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: a button and on a good Mac one and a

1096
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: half minutes later, a one hour show. He's edited multiicam,

1097
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: so when I'm talking, it's on me, when he's talking,

1098
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: it's on me on him. It's brilliant. So yeah, like

1099
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: I would never plug in or it's plug in for

1100
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: w premiere. Thanks for joining us. I want to shave them.

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00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Why get him out? This is by the way, this

1102
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: is yours. I Ne've already got one, but you get another.

1103
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: One can I can? I just tell you? Really, I

1104
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: want to cry right now. I broke Look, I broke mine.

1105
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Oh so I didn't want to rage. Actually it was

1106
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: just the closest thing on my desk and I threw it.

1107
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 3: You're not going to I'm absolutely not gonna.

1108
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: Lost because your wife said no to the right.

1109
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: You don't want to know how close to the true

1110
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: that story is. But it's funny because it's still sitting

1111
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: on my desk. But I've put it together again because

1112
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: my daughter's like, why have you got a broken cup?

1113
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, because I feel really bad that I broke.

1114
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: This is the nicest bumper stickers you know where I'm

1115
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: going to put that? Not on my bumper.

1116
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: You're not going to put it on the on the board.

1117
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: No, really no, that's not going to have to love

1118
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: them on there if you want. No, probably not. Actually no, sorry,

1119
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 3: I just realized, oh no, I could cut it this.

1120
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 3: It's just Paul.

1121
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Do you know what? I actually Paul?

1122
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: It actually works if he ever needed to, it just

1123
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: works fine. Paul Will probably could probably phototo both the Gordy.

1124
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: Do you know what?

1125
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Paul sent me a challenge right before you got in

1126
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: here was to stick one of those on your coopra

1127
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: born and I've just got out to do that. And

1128
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: now I realized a friend of fucking Genesis GB sixty,

1129
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: So I stuck on it. Anyway. The people, yeah, they

1130
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: love me, they do. They genuinely listen to this podcast.

1131
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: Bill Henikey. Sorry about the sticker, and is it Pete

1132
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: in the garage? I'll pull the sticker off. No, don't

1133
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 3: they love it. Actually, they were hitting me up for merch.

1134
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: I've you should put some in the car. Yeah, I'll

1135
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: get them. I'll give them some merch too. You know

1136
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: what you meant to do with merch? You meant to

1137
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 3: sell it.

1138
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: You know we got we wanted to give it to people,

1139
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: and then I realized it's actually bloody expensive.

1140
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: It's really hard to send it.

1141
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 1: It's actually really expensive to send it to Pete.

1142
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: That's why I gave you boke umbrellas that time, because

1143
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: it's possible to sell it.

1144
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: That's on my postal by the way, just on that.

1145
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: It is genuinely on my to do list this week.

1146
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: Can guaranteed it's getting sent out, so ho, So.

1147
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: It is people?

1148
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: Actually will I think we should eventually sell stuff, but

1149
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: we'll get to it this We've got.

1150
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: SI just come for seventy nine to ninety five plus

1151
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: eighty six dollars.

1152
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: It's so bloody expensive to post ship, but I've got

1153
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: a one on it. So it's going to be done,

1154
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: and it will be done this weekend.

1155
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: A one year old promise. It feels like it's a

1156
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: really long it took.

1157
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: It took a while for the for the great people

1158
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: of Machines plus to get as the merge. They were

1159
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: moving factories. Anyway, great people, It's next on the list,

1160
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: Apple and Tesla.

1161
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so again we should stop discussing stuff off fair,

1162
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: but we were discussing off air about.

1163
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: Well if you had stopped eating.

1164
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, Gordy eating when I was.

1165
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: Jesus.

1166
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: So I read in the Afar this morning that Apple

1167
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: and Tesla's share prices have taken a hit after they

1168
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: announce basically their results in China, both respectively getting boned

1169
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: by Chinese public and Chinese government making certain requests of

1170
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: citizens to switch phones.

1171
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: And Chinese citizens follow their requests too pretty strictly.

1172
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: So I'll get to Tesla in a second. Tell me

1173
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: with phones, so I use an iPhone have used one

1174
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: for ages, used an Android for a little while, didn't

1175
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: love it.

1176
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: And the Google phones are great phones. The Google Androids

1177
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 1: are fantastic phone off.

1178
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: The pigure just Google right. So now what's happening in

1179
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: China is they've been told, certainly for governments, that you

1180
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: can't have iPhones. And there was a quote from one

1181
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: person who didn't want to be sort of directly named,

1182
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 2: that said, basically, they came to the office and said,

1183
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: you've got two weeks to get rid of your iPhones.

1184
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: You're switching to Huawei's. Two weeks later, they came with

1185
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: a box and anyone that hadn't gotten rid of their

1186
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: iPhones was asked to put it in the box. Now

1187
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: getting twenty percent off. So they're all excited because it's

1188
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: a anyway, the huai Wi they're getting is like some

1189
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: high end new thing with some fancy chipset. Yeah, it'll Ironically,

1190
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 2: they were a lot of the people that were quoted

1191
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: in this story were concerned about Apple's spywere.

1192
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 3: Like, we if you think about the propaganda that exists

1193
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: in Australia over China and Huawei, and for full clarity,

1194
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: I have no problem with Huawei. There's no evidence they

1195
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: have done anything, so I think a lot of it

1196
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 3: is propaganda.

1197
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, so on that, I always wanted that myself.

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00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: Huawei, we're not allowed to build the five gene networks.

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00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: Who do you think built the four G networks for

1200
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: Optus and vertef fucking we're still using. Well, if they

1201
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: wanted to spy, they would have been fucking spying already.

1202
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: And that's my Other points to that as well is

1203
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: that you can open up it Huawei phone, take every

1204
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: single bit apart and examine it to see if it

1205
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: has anything. It would have been easy to do by now.

1206
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm all for if you want to fucking

1207
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: spy on me, if you want to put the camera

1208
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: on while I'm having a Wang.

1209
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: Do it, because good luck to you.

1210
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: Can I can just imagine some guy in like China

1211
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: as they they're just there at the port.

1212
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: So Huawei is just one, right, You've got Popo gell

1213
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: me there are so I'm just ignoring him. Stop there

1214
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: so many phone brands InChI I think it's bordering on. No,

1215
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: it's not even bordering on is it that? You're right?

1216
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: It is Gordy by the way, everyone that's Gordy declaration

1217
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 3: Kiss FM, What I mean, have you lost interest in

1218
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: what Paul was asking?

1219
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what you were on about anyway, continued trip.

1220
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: You know, there's so many phones over I have no Seriously,

1221
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that they would push that because

1222
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: they want their industry to boom, and Huawei has no

1223
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 3: presence outside of China. They've got a sub brand called Honor,

1224
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: which does do pretty well in the US, Weirdley and Europe.

1225
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: But mate, those companies are so big that they can

1226
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 3: churn out enough phones for everyone there, right. So look,

1227
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 3: Apple is seen by Chinese in the same way as

1228
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: the scene here. It's this prestige thing, It's this better

1229
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: thing to have. But the fact is that you can

1230
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 3: do better than Apple with just a five hundred bucks.

1231
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: You don't really need to buy an iPhone, Paul. You

1232
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 3: could just get used to her bloody a cheap Android phone. Generally.

1233
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: Belief stuff this phone here that I'm using right now

1234
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: throughout five hundred and fifty bucks.

1235
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: About the camera stuff.

1236
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I took a bunch of photos of my

1237
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: son's baseball on the weekend. It was great. I mean,

1238
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't have any issues with it.

1239
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: Like I think it's it's more just with the rest

1240
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: of mine.

1241
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: Those photos away. I don't want to see one. Jesus Christ.

1242
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: We actually ironically look at that.

1243
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 3: Have you seen that vehicle?

1244
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've heard of me. Yeah.

1245
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: Right, So this is a phone company or a tech

1246
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: company in China making a fucking electric hire.

1247
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: The designer from that designer from.

1248
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: It's like, it's a beautiful looking car.

1249
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: That's a nice looking car.

1250
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: But see, that's what's happening in China. I was in

1251
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: Shanghai and I was blown away by the number of

1252
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: ev companies that I'd never heard of, Axion or something

1253
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 3: and all these different things. They've got a ship ton

1254
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: of cars.

1255
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: Chris Banglereo he's helping them now with car design. But

1256
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: that's the exciting thing for me with China. They have

1257
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: such a booming industry of electric cars and this technology.

1258
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: And ironically, the only people, as far as I'm aware

1259
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: recently that have spied on anyone with the phone was

1260
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: the Australian government when they set up all the criminals,

1261
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: you know.

1262
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and wasn't it wasn't there a drama with Yeah,

1263
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: wasn't there done with Tether employees looking at dash cam

1264
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 3: or internal car footage or something.

1265
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: And that's actually a really valid point, and that's Tesla's

1266
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: problem in China at the moment. The Chinese government won't

1267
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: allow any Tesla vehicles at government sites because they're concerned

1268
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: that it might be transmitting video data. And to be honest,

1269
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: I can open my app and look at the camera

1270
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: on my car and see what it's doing. But so

1271
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: cain Tesla. And that's what employees were busted doing, sharing

1272
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: videos of their customers doing shit in an internal group

1273
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: that they had. And you can just imagine how further

1274
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: that could go if you.

1275
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: That is far worse. That is far worse than anything

1276
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: Wi was accused of doing, actually at all?

1277
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: Will we I feel like we brought up a story

1278
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: about some guy who was having issues with his Tesla

1279
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: and perhaps an ex Tesla employee managed.

1280
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: To got his model y and there was a bloke

1281
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: that follows us on Facebook that is what works for Tesla,

1282
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: might presume. And anyway, he looked up the vin via

1283
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: the regio that old boys had posted on Instagram about

1284
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: his Spotify or whatever not working, and this guy was

1285
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: sent to DM and goes, I fixed it for you.

1286
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: He's like, what do you mean? He goes, I logged

1287
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: into the car and reset the thing for you, and

1288
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: he's I didn't ask you to do any of that's

1289
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: so thank you.

1290
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 3: But this poor guy's kind of thought done elbows a

1291
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: favor and he's just poke.

1292
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: That guy would know where I live because it will

1293
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: show you where the cars parked.

1294
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: He might be able to, like he would be able

1295
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: to watch our boys drive.

1296
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that that does consider YouTube.

1297
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: But do you know what I mean? Kids do something

1298
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: in the back unbelievable wild.

1299
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: But anyway, they're now seeing Tesla's had twenty percent taken

1300
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: off a share price of a recent They're struggling big

1301
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: time in China. They're discounting. They're having to fast track

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Speaker 2: these facelifts, which they said they would never do. But

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Speaker 2: as it turns out, if you look at all the

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Speaker 2: new model threes on the road, there are so many

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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I saw three on the way here in a

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Speaker 3: twenty minute.

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Speaker 1: New ones do look good.

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Speaker 2: It's all old owners and I have castles alerts set

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Speaker 2: up for a Model three. There is like fifty a

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00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: day churning through there. It's all people upgrading to the

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Speaker 2: new one. When there isn't really that big of a difference.

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Speaker 1: If you don't care, I mean, why not, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get People just want the newest thing,

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00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: even though it is really not that different.

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Speaker 3: They want the new BMW three series. In the year

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00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: two thousand and I moved. That was in Perth. I

1319
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: moved to Sydney in two thousand and one. I was

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00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,959
Speaker 3: a year old and they changed the tough front light

1321
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 3: on mine was like an orange, the indicator of orange

1322
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: and it pointed down. And on the new one it

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00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: was white and it pointed up, and the tail light

1324
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: was the blinker was white and stead of orange. And

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Speaker 3: I fucking traded it in and lost. I lost stupid

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00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: money as a kid, basically and went, well, I've done

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00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: this for a facelift. People do that.

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00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: That's how they get you.

1329
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: No one wants to be in.

1330
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: The exactly you don't want to be in the old model.

1331
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a young Trevor Long just cruising around

1332
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: in a VMW three series good times, Yeah, heady das

1333
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: driving around the driving down.

1334
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: Across the streets of Perth, the tool Shed, Central.

1335
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: Coast, Golden Mile, Senni Coast. I used to live on

1336
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: the central coast.

1337
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 3: Are living on the peninsula? Mate? Head along?

1338
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: Well, Jesus, Okay, it's awkward.

1339
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: Not really, because I don't really care. Good times, good

1340
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: times where garbage people live. Frankston like Frankston of Victoria.

1341
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh so Gordy now has the Chinese and garbage people

1342
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: after him.

1343
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's got a lot of people after him.

1344
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: That's why that security goes out there.

1345
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: Is actually enjoyed. Take a ticket and wait in line.

1346
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people.

1347
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: Do you look over your shoulder a lot?

1348
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Can you? That's You're very weird tonight.

1349
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 3: I worry about you.

1350
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm worrying about your going. I saw you eat that pizza.

1351
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: You literally put it between two sizes of bread and

1352
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: ate it like a sandwich.

1353
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: That's going.

1354
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: I know I took down the recipe.

1355
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: I did sneak a piece in while you're outside.

1356
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that cheesy crust. I haven't had one of those. Jesus,

1357
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: it's not bad.

1358
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: Good for Domino.

1359
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: Dominos a sponsor of the show.

1360
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: They should they should be. We should get a sponsor.

1361
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Can you imagine we could get like e f T

1362
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: there you go, send me a proper and you imagined

1363
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: made a money by the look of it. Can you

1364
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: imagine me doing live reieson for Trevor.

1365
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: E?

1366
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: M T.

1367
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: What's it called? Anyway, if you want technological advice, don't

1368
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: send me a proper Do you see that?

1369
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: Good people at is doing very well?

1370
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: He is doing great.

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00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: He is, he's he's certainly latched onto the electric car

1372
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: hitting situations.

1373
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: Have great respect for his use of the algorithm. It's brilliant.

1374
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if ever I need a torch

1375
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: or like a device to shave my balls, he's your man.

1376
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: Any machine machine work done.

1377
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking he fucking has it all. He's that maybe

1378
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: you kind of want like.

1379
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: You're putting you can you weld this together for me?

1380
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, sure, Yeah, you're fucking it up, you're

1381
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: doing it wrong. I'll do it and then he'll tell

1382
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: you how much of a dickhead you are for forty

1383
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: five minutes, and then you'll probably have a couple of

1384
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: beers with you.

1385
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: That sounds like pretty much my every day. Someone's calling

1386
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: me every day, So that's fine. Today it's you, Gordy.

1387
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: We should I'm happy to do some fake business if

1388
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: you want some bloody live reads.

1389
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: We'll do it.

1390
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: We'll do it for free.

1391
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I want them. No, send me

1392
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: your audience figures and I'll have a look at with

1393
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: my tim.

1394
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: They're probably tremble of whatever that ev thing. What's it

1395
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: called to cars and eating it? What's it called? Two

1396
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: blokes and cars?

1397
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: Two blokes talking electric cars?

1398
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: Have you had any guests on? I mean like owners.

1399
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: We just we've had a few owners owners and we

1400
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: had a bloke from the Strata Corp. Yeah, we've got

1401
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: a few people coming on, a few people coming on. Actually,

1402
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: anyoneus feel like this is winding up from Yeah, which

1403
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: is I could see to me that he's in radio.

1404
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: Yes, why how dare you just the way this works?

1405
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

1406
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is structure to his day thing.

1407
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe this structure in the rest

1408
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: of his day and he likes this just to be

1409
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: this weirdly fluid ad hoc thing.

1410
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just get in and do our ship. Who cares.

1411
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: We don't need to belove.

1412
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm not play another song.

1413
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't have to fucking talk about justin Bieber. It's good.

1414
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: Just play another song.

1415
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: Just play another song.

1416
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: That's it.

1417
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 3: Hours.

1418
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: Yes, fucking hell, never listened five and a half long?

1419
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: How many of that would you actually be talking?

1420
00:59:59,200 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: Have you ever done that?

1421
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: Fine?

1422
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 3: How many? What's the total cumulative minutes of you talking?

1423
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: Like twenty seven as not? No, it's not so much.

1424
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: It's not long, Like you probably talk for about ninety

1425
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: seconds each time, So let's say about ten fifteen minutes

1426
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: an hour. You research, You've got to have like, you've

1427
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: got to have it down. We can't just do this

1428
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: shit right here, you know what I mean? Actually, do

1429
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: you know what I did today? I played a woman

1430
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: who was in a like a Cole's car park fighting

1431
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: into a pipe?

1432
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: What was that?

1433
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: Actually a thing? I played it on air?

1434
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: How did you find it? It was on?

1435
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's definitely TikTok.

1436
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: He's on a different what I was like, I was

1437
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: talking about the I was talking about the Ken sorry,

1438
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: the Barbie movie like Ryan Gosling was singing at the

1439
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: Oscars like the Ken song. And I said something along

1440
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: the lines of oda they should have done like a

1441
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: Barbie crossover with Openheimer about a smart, young independent woman

1442
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: who makes an ex explosive device. And then I just

1443
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: cut to this woman on TikTok going. I'm in the

1444
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: Coles car park. I'm going to fight in a pipe.

1445
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: That's that's what I write on the census under employment

1446
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: full time dickhead. Thanks for listening everyone. I think that's

1447
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: our go. I think we're going to rack.

1448
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: Yes, if you did enjoy this show, make sure you

1449
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: leave us a rating on whiche a platform you're listening to.

1450
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: Check out Trev's podcasts multiplely. Are there any other podcasts

1451
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: aside from if.

1452
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: You subscribe to Two Blokes Talking Tech? We do six

1453
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,479
Speaker 3: a week?

1454
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, six podcasts a week now, don't know you did

1455
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: that many?

1456
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: So Stephen does his own tech guid I do my

1457
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 3: own e FtM. Then we do Two Blokes Talking Tech,

1458
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: the private feed best movies you've never.

1459
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: Seen, sending podcasts right.

1460
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: But they're all in one. You can get them all separately,

1461
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 3: but we put them all if you want in one

1462
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 3: feed the Two Blokes Talking Tech. If you subscribe to that,

1463
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: you get a show every day except Sunday.

1464
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, there you go. And Gordy what we do

1465
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: one every quarter If we're lucky.

1466
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: We sit down a spoiler. Let we record them all

1467
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: in one day on a Wednesday. We just sit down

1468
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: and punch out the movie, the ev tech and yeah.

1469
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: Well yeah, make sure you check those out.

1470
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, rating and if you do have any questions

1471
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: for us or Trev, contact at the Drivers Show dot

1472
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: com today you we've got a social media thing as

1473
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: well on Instagram at the Drivers Show dot com today

1474
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: you thanks for listening.

1475
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: We've got some big things, thank you and sorry.

1476
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: Big things coming up.

1477
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: Wow wow, watch this space get out, Trev.

1478
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: I think I might stay to another one.