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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 1: Now, there are only twenty days left, twenty days until

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. Welcome to a Happy Family Podcast. We are

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Speaker 1: so excited to share this Christmas season with you on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Once a month or thereabouts, we do an

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Speaker 1: episode called this Week in Parenting. This Month in Parenting

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Speaker 1: would probably make more sense because well, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of parenting news and we don't get to it as

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Speaker 1: often as we should. But Kylie, five stories, five stories

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Speaker 1: for us to go through today. That is a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of content to work through. We're going to move

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Speaker 1: through it fairly quickly. Brand new story in the newspapers

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Speaker 1: for this Week in Parenting at this point. What would

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Speaker 1: you imagine that the hidden epidemic jeopardizing a generation of

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Speaker 1: It's not screens, but it does start with sc school.

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Speaker 1: What are we going to do about school anxiety or

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Speaker 1: They actually become better people. Their brain changes in positive

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Speaker 2: But this becomes a segue right into video gaming in general.

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Speaker 1: It's the gateway, It's the gateway game, It's the gateway drug.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not as excited about it as you you are.

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Speaker 1: In The Guardian, it says, considering the success of Ludos

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Speaker 2: Case people think we don't have a funny bone, we've

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Speaker 2: definitely been consumers of bad parenting reels that have us

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Speaker 1: What a great segue to Happy Families dot com dot au,

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Speaker 1: to make your family happy. Hey, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to the Happy Families Podcast. Really excited about the

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Speaker 1: going to count down our top five episodes for the year.

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Speaker 1: to be shared about what can make summer sizzle for

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the best books we've read this year.

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