WEBVTT - Should We Feel Guilty For Speculating About Princess Catherine?

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated.

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<v Speaker 2>We pay our respects to their elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 3>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 3>recorded on Drug Wallamuta Land.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura

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<v Speaker 1>and I produced a Keisha filling in for brit because

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<v Speaker 1>she has entered the jungle.

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<v Speaker 3>And last night Kish and Mitch Jury came over to

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<v Speaker 3>my house and we sat there and we all sat

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<v Speaker 3>there like nervous parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching Britt enter into the.

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<v Speaker 3>Jungle also took their sweetlass time. I was like, is

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<v Speaker 3>she even on this episode?

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<v Speaker 1>I started to feel as though we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to come back tonight and watch Brit actually into

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Get there, and I was actually really impressed with the cast.

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<v Speaker 1>I know every year everyone's like, who the fuck is that?

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<v Speaker 1>And usually sometimes sometimes I'm like, genuinely fair, no clue

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<v Speaker 1>that person is. But it's usually because you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an NRL girl, it will be because they're an AFL person.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it would be because they're not in my

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<v Speaker 2>niche categories.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that you use that example, but that's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what played out on last night's episode. The only person

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<v Speaker 3>that we were all like, who the fuck is that

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<v Speaker 3>was some guy who was, you know, an ex AFL

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<v Speaker 3>player and they.

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<v Speaker 2>One from Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia. Right now are.

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<v Speaker 3>Screaming sorry, sorry, it should come as no surprise after

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<v Speaker 3>five years, but I'm not football, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't get me juices going. It's not to me.

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<v Speaker 1>People are unsubscribing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing I don't understand and we'll never understand about

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a celebrity is why people don't lie. What I'm

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<v Speaker 3>saying is okay. So brit is petrified of heights. It's

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<v Speaker 3>probably the.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that she deeply, deeply cannot do and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>ever want to put herself in that situation. She has

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in skydiving, she has no interest in bungee jumping.

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<v Speaker 1>But the girl is competitive and will do pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>everything right. So that to me is I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I would have thought had I not known Brit,

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<v Speaker 3>that she would have been okay with those sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>things because she seeks out adrenaline in other ways. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but she last night had to go out. She walked

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<v Speaker 3>out into this little plank. It was like a trapdoor

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<v Speaker 3>and then it's like over the top of a gorge

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And they trapped the door too so you could see

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<v Speaker 2>through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then it opens and you plummet down, and

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time you had to recite a number

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<v Speaker 3>that was in front of yourself. And majority of people

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<v Speaker 3>who were there doing it, there was five of them

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<v Speaker 3>were okay with it, even if they were scared. They

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<v Speaker 3>had processes pretty well. And Britt was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually so hard to watch. She was in tears.

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<v Speaker 3>She was visibly uncomfortable with the whole situation. And my

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<v Speaker 3>question is, why the fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't she just lie and say that she was scared

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<v Speaker 2>of snakes?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you give Like we've done reality TV, we

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<v Speaker 1>know how this works.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you give them the truth? I would lie?

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<v Speaker 3>Why didn't she say that she's petrified of reptiles and

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<v Speaker 3>then she would have had to have done the snake

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<v Speaker 3>challenge or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Why they're afire of ice cream? Oh, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>so bad if it just fell from the zeiling. Sleep

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<v Speaker 2>petrifies me. Don't let me near it.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't slept in years, not because I can't, but

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm fucking petrified of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Caffeine makes me psychotic. Yeah, so that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>really really bad TV for you if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>give me coffee. Yeah, terrible, terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>See.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't understand why people are honest about these

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<v Speaker 3>things because you know it's going to be used against you.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't, and I don't know why britain't because

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<v Speaker 1>she does know better.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, absolutely know it's better. You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>But she did a really good job, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they very much deliberately put her in the position

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<v Speaker 1>where she was the one who was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to fall through the trap door instead of doing the

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<v Speaker 1>red tiles.

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<v Speaker 3>So can you imagine how so like the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>drama that they managed to get over those few minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>It might have been like maybe five minutes of Brita

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<v Speaker 3>on screen where they were like really drawing out the

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<v Speaker 3>intensity of how scared she was. What it made me

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<v Speaker 3>think at the time was how long they would have

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<v Speaker 3>had her standing out on that plank for that would

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<v Speaker 3>have been filmed over twenty five minutes, half an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>just to try and get as much fear out of

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<v Speaker 3>her as possible and.

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<v Speaker 2>That I hate.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes me feel even worse for her. And I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like a proud mum. You know when you when

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<v Speaker 3>you're so nervous. Okay, no one, no one's gonna know

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<v Speaker 3>this because like we don't have children who are old

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<v Speaker 3>enough to deal with this majority of listeners. But I

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<v Speaker 3>remember if I was competing in something and my mum

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<v Speaker 3>would be so nervous that she'd be almost crying for me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd be like, settle down, mom, No, you know

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<v Speaker 3>your parents didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But she absolutely didn't do that. They're like, go out

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<v Speaker 2>there and win, you know, coming home because my win,

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<v Speaker 2>my love is conditional, you little shit. That's really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to really like she cared that. That's really calm.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not for me, for more for my sister and gymnastics,

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<v Speaker 3>but like it's you know, I recognized it in her. No,

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<v Speaker 3>even when I was doing when I did Dancing with

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<v Speaker 3>the Stars, like Matt had it, he was so nervous

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<v Speaker 3>for me that he couldn't but he just couldn't. He

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<v Speaker 3>was so nervous. And that's how I felt last night

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<v Speaker 3>for Britt sitting on the couch, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, my child, they're gonna throw her off a

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<v Speaker 3>little platform.

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<v Speaker 2>Or so worried about it, but she did good.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, I don't hate them for it made when I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about the situation, it's the anticipation of that

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<v Speaker 1>floor falling beneath you that's worse. It's not the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she's at a height, like if that were me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been bungee jumping, and oh, we know, kich.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we know, so there's a ride. I went lyle wait,

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<v Speaker 2>why do we know?

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<v Speaker 1>Because last night we took a trip down memory Lane

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<v Speaker 1>and I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>very relevant to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was told to shush and that it was

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<v Speaker 2>not relevant to So why we were all deep in

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<v Speaker 2>watching bread and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like whilst I was at the peak of my feet,

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<v Speaker 3>like I was invested. We were sitting there on the couch,

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<v Speaker 3>Mitch and I hand in hand, like really absorbed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Keisha goes, I've been to Africa, I did

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<v Speaker 2>the bungee jump and the Gorge suite. Let me show

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<v Speaker 2>you photos.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're like, Keisha, not now, And you were like,

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<v Speaker 3>hold on, I've even got a video recording of me

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<v Speaker 3>Screaming's put that in here. Let's include the scream of Keisha.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason the video is so funny is it because

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<v Speaker 1>I sound like them being stabbed. It's it's not a cute,

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<v Speaker 1>girly scream. That's true, that's a terrified scream. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I was really terrified because from the time that it

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<v Speaker 1>took for them to wrap towels and a bungee cort

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<v Speaker 1>around my feet to the point of which I was

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<v Speaker 1>plummeting off of that bridge was less than fifteen seconds. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there were no checks. There was not me going are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure I know we do this day in day out?

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<v Speaker 2>Off?

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<v Speaker 3>You go jump off, hurry up, you're holding up the schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>There's twenty people behind you. I can't bungee jump. I

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<v Speaker 3>did try it when I was in New Zealand and

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<v Speaker 3>I had a panic attack and matt ended up taking

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<v Speaker 3>my bungee jump because we paid for two and I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to waste the money.

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<v Speaker 2>But this isn't about me.

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<v Speaker 3>And last night when you were like tro she were

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<v Speaker 3>like showing us the family photo album, we were like, Qija,

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<v Speaker 3>now is not the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is not the time.

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<v Speaker 3>There's always that one friend who wants to show you

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<v Speaker 3>photos from their holiday that they had four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, when was the last time you were with wild rhinos? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>When was the last time you saw a zebra milking?

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<v Speaker 2>It's calf. I don't even know if it's called a calf.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have had those experiences, and I thought, I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I do?

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<v Speaker 2>And I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it wasn't the time of the wait stop, can

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<v Speaker 1>we just play that audio again one more time?

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we've all experienced it. It wasn't the time

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<v Speaker 1>of the place, all right. It was meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>about Britt. She did a really good job. But all

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<v Speaker 1>I could think about when she was on that platform

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<v Speaker 1>is that this is right. It went and wild up

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<v Speaker 1>in the Gold Coast, standing there and there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Water rushing down your back and you wear this shell thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People that have been they know, but this is rogan

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for. There's four of you in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're all looking at each other, going why are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>This is an opt in situation?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the floor falls from beneath you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will say.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a free enima it really? Oh gross.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just thought about what would be in that water. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want I don't want to do that ever again. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you just clinch shut.

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<v Speaker 3>I say this because I made the mistake at Wet

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<v Speaker 3>and Wild and I got a free enement there, and

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<v Speaker 3>now I don't go on water slides.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually it wasn't Wet and Wild. It was the one

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<v Speaker 2>in Bali, but it was closed. It was not good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the closest thing I have experienced to what

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<v Speaker 1>Brute went through. And I think she did a really

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<v Speaker 1>good job because it was really terrifying for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not scared of heights out Wet and Wild. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was over a gorge.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interested to see. I mean, obviously we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the show. It's not going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>only thing we talk about, we promised. But last night

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<v Speaker 3>was a very big night. It was the very first

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<v Speaker 3>time that Britt entered, and I am excited to see

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<v Speaker 3>how some of the other contestants go, in particular someone

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<v Speaker 3>like Sky Wheatley, because I know her from social media.

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<v Speaker 3>I know the version of herself that she presents on

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<v Speaker 3>social media. I also know that she can be quite polarizing.

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<v Speaker 3>People either love her or they hate her, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that we're very critical of influences and of social

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<v Speaker 3>media personalities, and last night she came in with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of personality and she was very herself, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>And on one instance she also had a moment where

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<v Speaker 3>she put her hand into the box and she got

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<v Speaker 3>bitten by a snake and she had to get a

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<v Speaker 3>star out and that sort of stuff is quite endearing

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<v Speaker 3>to see people overcome their fears. So I wonder how

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to play out for all of the

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<v Speaker 3>participants and who's going to get their redemption arc, who's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be seen more humanized on TV? Who is

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<v Speaker 3>it going to really kind of like display their personality

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<v Speaker 3>in a more authentic way and we're going to dislike it?

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<v Speaker 3>And I find that a really interesting part of how

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<v Speaker 3>these reality shows play out me too.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite moment of last night was actually when Britt

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<v Speaker 1>got into the camp and she saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellie Cole Elie, Ellie Love Ellie. She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the most decorated Paralympic athlete I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had in Australia, so most medals of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was on the podcast with you guys about

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago. It'd have to be about it year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in January last year year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll actually link that episode in the show notes so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can go back and listen to it because

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<v Speaker 1>it was such a good episode. Ellie is a straight shooter,

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<v Speaker 1>she tells it how it is. I think she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to make such good TV because she is not the

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<v Speaker 1>type of person that will sugarcoat her opinions, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Well this is now, so you know, Ripeter Maths, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a celebrity, to get me out of here. Don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I would ever say that. There has never been a

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<v Speaker 3>time in history that I have said that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>probably will never say it again. But in the competition

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<v Speaker 3>of the ratings war between the two Juggernauts, this is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the perfect time that I'm a celebrity has

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<v Speaker 3>dropped because I personally have been finding Maths very boring

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm ready for something new and obviously our girl, Britt.

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<v Speaker 3>We all need to support her. We all need to

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<v Speaker 3>get behind it. Even if you're not watching it, go

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<v Speaker 3>and vote for her. The voting opens tonight, which is

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<v Speaker 3>Monday night, So if you watch Monday night's episode, you

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<v Speaker 3>can start voting for the participants. And we need to

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<v Speaker 3>make Brittany a winner. Queen brittey Te speaking of.

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<v Speaker 1>The day that this comes out, because it will be

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<v Speaker 1>last night that you can vote for britt Well. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>a special day, Laura d da du everyone together, hoopy hoot.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're not going to sing it from front to back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone from back to the crack.

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<v Speaker 1>You want me to from back to Yeah, I get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole studio in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy birthday too. I'm joking. Don't you hate it when

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<v Speaker 2>people are singing Happy birthday to you. There's a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people and you're.

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<v Speaker 1>The one behind the cake, and you don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck to do with your hands or your eyes, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be honest, I think I'm an anomaly. I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like it. I kind of like it having

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Birthday being sung to me. I don't like the attention.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's such a novelty that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>mind it. People who say that they get so embarrassed

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<v Speaker 3>by having happy birthdays, I'm like, get go touch grass.

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<v Speaker 2>If that is what embarrasses.

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<v Speaker 3>You, you need to do a shit on the street

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<v Speaker 3>or something that's truly embarrassing, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when everyone at the restaurant doings in

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, they're all looking at me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do it for me. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do with my hands or

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<v Speaker 1>my I like this, I'll do anyway. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of the years that I have known you,

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<v Speaker 1>we have really put an emphasis on mine and Brute's

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<v Speaker 1>birthday because it's on the same day, and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a two for one special. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel as though we've given you enough airtime for

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<v Speaker 1>your birthdays, and so I want to give you airtime

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<v Speaker 1>for your birthdays. I want everyone all miss about your birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>I have ordered you a birthday present. I'm really sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't organized enough that it would be here

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<v Speaker 1>on time for me to give it to you. But

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<v Speaker 1>by the time this goes live, you might have it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you'll like it, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have a pretty good idea as to what.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be. I know that has to do with plants.

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<v Speaker 3>Birthdays to me are not And when I say like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about people singing happy birthday to me

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<v Speaker 3>in a restaurant. It's not because I want people to

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<v Speaker 3>make a big deal about me. I often forget how

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<v Speaker 3>old I am. I sometimes have to type in my

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<v Speaker 3>date of birth into Google to remember if I'm thirty

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<v Speaker 3>eight or thirty seven, which Google told me half an

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<v Speaker 3>hour ago. I'm thirty seven turning thirty eight. When I

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<v Speaker 3>was twenty six, I had an whole entire year where

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was a different age to what I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, how did you party?

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<v Speaker 1>They?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was twenty seven, And so I had

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<v Speaker 3>my twenty six birthday twice because I'd already celebrated my

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six birthday. And then somebody, when I was seemingly

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<v Speaker 3>turning twenty seven said to me, you know you're only

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<v Speaker 3>turning twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, wow, that something happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what it was. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>few theories.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, yeah, look, Matt and I are going to

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<v Speaker 3>go out for dinner. But apart from that, nothing too

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<v Speaker 3>exciting is happening. We may do a lunch at our house,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's going to be in mid April, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is because somebody else is organizing it and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to do anything which is nice. That is the

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<v Speaker 3>just the birthday celebration, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke about this last year on my birthday, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I realized that i'd kind of like I'd

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<v Speaker 1>said that I wasn't at all a birthday person. But

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, it's just because I've been really

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed on my birthday before. So maybe I'm met half

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<v Speaker 1>a birthday person. But I actually I believe you.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say you're not a birthday person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want you to know that we love you

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<v Speaker 1>so much and we're very proud of everything you've achieved.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time you're thirty eight, Is this all thirty nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? Is this like what you thought life would

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<v Speaker 2>be like as a thirty eight year old.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know in terms of like life progression. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so happy with where I'm at in life. I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>grateful for my relationship. I'm so grateful for my children.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so grateful for the work that I get to

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<v Speaker 3>do for my businesses. I never could have thought that

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<v Speaker 3>my life would be here. And so then sometimes I

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<v Speaker 3>think when you feel like you have so much to

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<v Speaker 3>be happy for, you have to downplay that because you,

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<v Speaker 3>like I understand it. Yeah, and it's such a privilege,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know I work incredibly hard for the things

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<v Speaker 3>that I have, But at the same time, like I

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<v Speaker 3>got fucking lucky in terms of the relationship situation. I

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<v Speaker 3>know that because I was so unlucky prior to meeting Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe that also is a reason why for me

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<v Speaker 3>now the years, I'm not defined by a birthday year

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm so grateful that I have someone in my

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<v Speaker 3>life who makes me feel special all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, when we did speak about this, someone wrote

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<v Speaker 1>into us and they had a really good point about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, I am a birthday person because it

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the only things that is just about

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<v Speaker 1>me that we celebrate as an adult. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the other things that we celebrate have to

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<v Speaker 1>do with relationship success or what.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be deemed as success in little quotation marks.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I really hope that we can make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel special on your thirty eighth birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, you make me feel special all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, I am also very grateful for everyone in the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook community for their good recommendations of gifts to get Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>because Laura, you are the hardest person to buy a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't die anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually struggle so much to get you a gift

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not materialistic.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do want the propagation station.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually not being materialistic is a good thing, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>really bloody hard when it comes to presents. But you

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<v Speaker 1>also don't like massages and stuff that could be like

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<v Speaker 1>an easy just.

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<v Speaker 2>Gift, so I like food.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really hopeful on Friday when I posted in

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook group you had I'd seen you that day

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<v Speaker 1>and you were busy at Tony May and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you had shit on for the whole day, so I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was safe. I also didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>block a post from someone being able to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you can block a post from the

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<v Speaker 3>person who owns the Facebook page.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you care.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I could have just blocked you for the day

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<v Speaker 1>and then you couldn't have seen it. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>ask for some help about gifts in the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 2>And you guys came through. Oh yeah, you were good.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked for the other green thumbed goddesses to give

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<v Speaker 1>me their plant recommendations because I am not a green

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<v Speaker 1>thumbed goddess.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that three times.

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly, green thumb goddess anyway, only a green thumb goddess,

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<v Speaker 3>we say fast, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have a gift coming for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really sorry I wasn't organized in time for it

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<v Speaker 1>to get here, but it is plant related and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I really really enjoyed the enthusiasm. But what I

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<v Speaker 3>would like you all to know about me is that

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<v Speaker 3>my obsession for house plants runs so deep.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment, it is so out of.

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<v Speaker 3>Control that I would say I own ninety nine point

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<v Speaker 3>nine percent of the things that were suggested in that threat.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when it dawned on me that I have

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<v Speaker 3>a real problem. I was like, I just want to

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<v Speaker 3>come downstairs on my birthday and I want Matt to

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<v Speaker 3>have laid out garden soil in the lound room and

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<v Speaker 3>just started a veggie patch with some all spectrum lights

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<v Speaker 3>in my laundroom.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want, and my entire table to be sprouting.

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<v Speaker 2>Your kink's are weirds? Sorry? How did we end up

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<v Speaker 2>here again? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say that there was one brand that

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<v Speaker 1>kept on being brought up. I feel so stupid because

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<v Speaker 1>I've now realized that it's wee the Wild. But for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, when I saw that written out as the website,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was wet hey Wild.

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<v Speaker 2>What like wet and wild? Why is it called wet

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<v Speaker 2>he wild? Wet he Wild?

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<v Speaker 4>And I kept on saying it to myself And it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't until like literally two hours had passed and I

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<v Speaker 4>checked back in on the suggestions and someone had written

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<v Speaker 4>wee the Wild and I was like, oh wow, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>in this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't belong here. This is not my places, are

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<v Speaker 2>not my people?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Does sound fun?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Well sign me up, babies, slap it on.

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<v Speaker 3>We wanted to talk about the thing that everybody is

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this weekend. Well, it's the news that hit

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<v Speaker 3>the headlines on Saturday and it made so many of

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<v Speaker 3>us ask the question should we feel bad? Kate Middleton,

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<v Speaker 3>Princess Catherine. She came out with a public statement on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 3>which would have been their Friday in the UK, saying

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<v Speaker 3>that she had cancer and speaking about her cancer diagnosis

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that she was undergoing preventative chemotherapy. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as you guys all know because we spoke about it

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<v Speaker 3>on the episode prior, Kate had been missing from public

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<v Speaker 3>affairs for the majority of this year, and there had

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<v Speaker 3>been a statement that had been released from the Royal

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<v Speaker 3>family saying that Kate would not be present for royal

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<v Speaker 3>duties until Easter due to a planned surgery that was

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<v Speaker 3>happening on her stomach. Now, that did not stop the

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<v Speaker 3>rumor mill from running absolutely fucking rafe, and there was

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<v Speaker 3>so many conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theories had gotten out

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<v Speaker 3>of control, namely because of the photoshop fail that we

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<v Speaker 3>all saw happened last week where on Mother's Day in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK, Kate posted a photo or a photo was

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<v Speaker 3>obviously she didn't post it of her and the kids

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<v Speaker 3>and it was then later said by Geddy that it

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<v Speaker 3>was an AI generated image, it wasn't real, and then

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<v Speaker 3>all hell broke loose. Now, some of the conspiracy theories

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.800
<v Speaker 3>that were surrounding this and that really got out of control,

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<v Speaker 3>were things that maybe William was having an affair, the

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<v Speaker 3>rumored affair from twenty nineteen was brought back to the

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<v Speaker 3>surface and that maybe that affair had kicked off again.

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<v Speaker 3>There were rumors around her health. There was rumors that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe she had died and they were delaying the announcement

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<v Speaker 3>of her death because of King Charles being currently undergoing

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<v Speaker 3>cancer treatment as well.

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<v Speaker 2>There were rumors of surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>There was rumors of eating disorders and bolimia, and that

0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 3>she was having time for stomach surgery because of her bolimia.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I missed anything here? There were a lot of rumors.

0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.000
<v Speaker 2>There were so many we couldn't listen them all.

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly for anybody who saw her videos statement, it was

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<v Speaker 3>very humanizing to see Princess Kate sit there and speak

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<v Speaker 3>candidly and say that she's undergoing cancer treatment. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think for anybody who watched that, it was such an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting way that she set it up, because the whole

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 3>setup was thanking people for their kindness and their grace.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyone who's been across the news cycle for the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of weeks knows that there has been zero kindness,

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 3>zero grace. It has been unrelenting, the memes and the

0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.320
<v Speaker 3>mockery of what it is that she all the reasons why,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that she's been missing. I think the really

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<v Speaker 3>big question here is is how much privacy should be

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 3>awarded to a family that not only lives off the

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<v Speaker 3>public dollar, but also whose primary role is public facing,

0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Like that's the big question is how much how much

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.159
<v Speaker 3>should we be sorry for the fact that there was

0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 3>speculation and the conspiracy theories that followed around Kate's disappearance

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.399
<v Speaker 3>when so much of what the Royal family gains is

0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.360
<v Speaker 3>because they are public facing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are two parts to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not made it a secret that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the Royal family, and I think it's

0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.760
<v Speaker 1>important to acknowledge bias when we have these conversations. And

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>this scenario has made me more solid in that opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that there are people who are really

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<v Speaker 1>going to disagree with me, and I'm okay with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm also okay that you have different opinions. There

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<v Speaker 1>are two questions here, and one is do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that they are entitled to complete privacy? And the other

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<v Speaker 1>is should we feel guilty about the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>spatigate for this speculation or you know, bought into the

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.680
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories or had fun with it that we enjoyed

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the gossip of it. The first, on the privacy element,

0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:37.959
<v Speaker 1>for anyone who lives in the public space, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's this balancing act of the fact that you are

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<v Speaker 1>paid by the people, and therefore you should have transparency

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>with them, but there is an element of, well, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>deserves to be able to keep things private if it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's very sensitive and if it's something that they

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<v Speaker 1>are working through at the time. I think for a

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<v Speaker 1>normal person undergoing something like a cancer diagnosis, I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>had this happen in my family, and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to give too many details, but someone in my immediate

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.360
<v Speaker 1>family took three months to tell us that they had

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<v Speaker 1>received a cancer diagnosis, and at the time, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a really shocking thing for us to hear. It's put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about why didn't you tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on? And those things did end up

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<v Speaker 1>being answered, and I don't necessarily agree with the answers,

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to respect the fact that that's what they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And a cancer diagnosis is such an individual thing, even

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>though it affects so many people, how everyone processes that

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 1>information is going to be really specific to the person,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I normally think that people undergoing something like

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<v Speaker 1>that are entitled to privacy. But when it becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>royal member of this institution that is the monarchy, I

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<v Speaker 1>question whether they traded that in to receive the role

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<v Speaker 1>that they have. The main part of their job, I

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.239
<v Speaker 1>would argue, is being public facing. That's kind of what

0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.280
<v Speaker 1>they do now. They don't have as much to do with,

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, ruling Great Britain as what they used to do,

0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>so their main job is to kind of bring awareness

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to certain causes that need them and attend public events

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and bring eyes to things that need eyes on them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think.

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 1>That they are entitled to the same level of privacy

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<v Speaker 1>is what other people are. I think that they made

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that deal with the devil.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the question though, is is not that they're

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<v Speaker 3>not entitled to the same level of privacy.

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 2>They don't.

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 3>They don't receive anywhere near the same level of privacy

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 3>that a normal person would receive.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 2>That's not even a comparable thing.

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 3>But are they entitled to any privacy, especially when it

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 3>is a bround something that is so sensitive, like a

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 3>cancer diagnosis. My belief is yes, I think everybody is

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 3>entitled no matter how much you've traded with the devil,

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 3>we are all entitled to some sense of privacy or

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<v Speaker 3>some sense around timelines of when you are able to

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 3>talk about the things that's going on in your life.

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 3>And I guess the question around Kate Middleton is we're

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.439
<v Speaker 3>expecting not only that she would give us transparency, but

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.439
<v Speaker 3>that she would be at a state of mind to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to process what's happening to herself, to be

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.879
<v Speaker 3>able to also have those conversations with her children and

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<v Speaker 3>then navigate the public space. I think the place where

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 3>there's like a lack of empathy and a lack of

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 3>sympathy for that is that the royal family has the

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 3>most supposedly incredible pr team around them, the most incredible

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 3>advisors that help to navigate these very very sensitive situations,

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 3>so that when you and when I say, when you,

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 3>when Kate Middleton is in a situation where she is

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<v Speaker 3>experiencing something that is beyond maybe her comprehension or her

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 3>ability to be able to reconcile how she feels about it,

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 3>they're supposed to help guide her within a public space

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 3>and protect her. And I think we can all agree

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 3>that that system doesn't work and that that system did

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 3>not serve to protect her in that instance. You know,

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 3>the photoshop fail, the lack of conversation, the going underground,

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 3>all of those things only create groundswell. And because of

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 3>social media now and the way in which things can

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 3>become viral, and the way in which conspiracy theories can

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.439
<v Speaker 3>spread like absolute wildfire. I think that that's where the

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>real problems from. It's almost like not understanding or not

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>realizing the impact it was going to have, or maybe

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 3>they did realize the impact that it was going to have,

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 3>that they didn't care enough to stop Kate Middleton from

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 3>being like the sacrificial lamb in that situation. But I guess,

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 3>ultimately for me, when I watched that announcement, I felt

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 3>sad for her. I felt genuinely sad that there is

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 3>a real woman at the bottom of all of this,

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 3>the questioning as to whether we are entitled to or

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 3>not entitled to the conspiracy theories. To me, it felt

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 3>incredibly sad that there is a real person who has

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<v Speaker 3>to sit there and explain what's going on in their

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 3>body and face up to a camera in order to

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 3>be believed. And even in doing that, they still were

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 3>people who were like, this looks like AI to me.

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, this has the AI fuzz with some of

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 3>the comments below the actual video, the announcement video, but

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 3>for all the conversations we have around body autonomy, around

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, having the right to one's own sense of self.

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 3>That is undermined in the case when it's someone of

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 3>such a huge celebrity presence, I e. Kate Middleton, And

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 3>when we talk about this idea, keish what you said,

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 3>the trading of your privacy for all the benefits of

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>being public facing, there is that question of okay, well,

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 3>where is the line? And now I'm not saying that

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 3>media should be deeply sorry, because I think it's very

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 3>important to draw a line between what it was that

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 3>they're poking fun at. The media was not poking fun

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 3>at Kate Middleton having cancer. They were poking fun at

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 3>the disappearance and the absolute absurdity of the way in

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 3>which it was being handled, and that's why it got

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 3>out of control. So I think that you know the

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 3>way that it's now flipped in media landscape where everyone's like,

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 3>we should feel ashamed of ourselves. How dare we jump

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 3>on the bandwagon of memes. It's almost like that's the

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 3>product that's created by the disappearance, that's the product that

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 3>was being fueled.

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I should also make it clear that I feel as

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<v Speaker 1>though I may have sounded like a bit of a

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>dick when I said that Kate, don't. I do think

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that she deserves privacy. I'm talking more about the institution

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of the royal family as a whole. And it's very

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>interesting to me that King Charles is currently going through

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>cancer treatment himself, but we're not talking about that. It's

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>all were talking about where the fuck is Kate. It

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>makes me raise my eyebrows even more. The phrasing of

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>abdominal surgery what part of the.

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Planned abdominal surgery.

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 3>It's very different to so the way in which it

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 3>was communicated in January. Planned abdominal surgery verse major abdominal

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 3>surgery doesn't sound like there's a lot of difference, but

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 3>the inference of that is a lot of difference. It

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 3>left people wild to make up their own imagination around

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>what was happening.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Kate is worthy of privacy, but in order for you

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to obtain that privacy from the public, you have to

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>give them enough clarifications so that adults in the room

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>can go, Okay, there's something going on and right now.

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>She needs the space to process that.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that we awarded her that, But

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's our fault, and that's why I

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think that we should feel guilty because the institution

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that is, the monarchy have worked so hand in hand

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>with the media for generations. They have traded stories, they

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>have the tick of approval of what goes out about them,

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>which pictures are actually posted, and that has existed for

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>so long. But what has changed is that we now

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>critique that. I almost feel as though there's a bit

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>of gas lighting going on here with them saying that

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>you should feel bad about doing this because we've been

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>conditioned to assume that what they're telling us may not

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>necessarily be the truth. But the next thing that I've

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>been thinking about is the amount of people that are

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>coming out saying I feel really bad about the fact

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of joked about this and I bought into

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the conspiracies and I had a bit of fun with it,

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I toyed around with what might actually be

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>going on. Blake Lively even came out and posted something

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>on an Instagram story where she was like, I feel

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 1>like an idiot and I'm really sorry.

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>There have been many celebrities and many normal people that

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>have also kind of said I feel a bit bad

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>for participating.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's now in panic stations being like, are we bad

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 3>people because we subscribe to this conspiracy theory which so

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 3>many of us did, right, and we did. We spoke

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 3>about it on Tuesday's episode. You know, we had a

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 3>laugh about it. We had a laugh about the absurdity

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 3>of the photoshop fail, as most people did, and in

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>most friendship groups people were talking about, well, what do

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>you think has happened? There is something incredibly humbling that

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 3>happens when the truth is as simple as I am very,

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 3>very sick and I need my privacy, and when you

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 3>hear that being spoken by a woman that is being

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 3>completely humanized, the royalness was stripped bare. Even the way

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 3>in which it was filmed, it was very understated. It

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 3>was a and I don't want to use the word

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 3>frail because she's not frail, but she's very slight in frame,

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 3>just a woman sitting there speaking to camera with nobody

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 3>else around her. Her husband's not there. It was very

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 3>much just her and the people saying this is what

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm going through. And I guess that that is why

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 3>now there's been this massive backflip, because it was a

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 3>plead for humanity almost is how it came across.

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And I question whether you know, so Kate's gotten to

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the point where she has made this video. Was that

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>because she felt that the collective public harassment was so

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>huge that it was the only way that she could

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of get everyone to fuck off by saying, guys,

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually going through cancer, leave me alone and give

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>me some space. Was it because of the public harassment

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>or was it actually because of the multitude of failures

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>by the PR team that worked for the royals? And

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that had the Royal family not put us

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>in a position so many times in the past where

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they'd breadcrumbed us with information and we were left to

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<v Speaker 1>put the rest of the pieces together ourselves. Had that

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<v Speaker 1>not have occurred so many times, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>people would have run as rampant with these conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel as though the people who are feeling

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<v Speaker 1>guilty for this are feeling that way because they're like,

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, we've pushed her into a corner where

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>she has felt the need to disclose something that she

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>thought was private and that she.

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Didn't want to tell us. She didn't want to tell

0:30:58.320 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 2>us that she was going through cancer. That's obvious.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Other way she would have told us that, and they're

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>feeling guilty because they feel as though they contributed to

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>forcing her into that corner. And I personally don't think

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the public harassment that did that. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the failure of the team that is supposed to protect

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>her in the royal family so many times over. It's

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>not one thing, it's the collection of these things that

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I think pushed her into this corner, and I think

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>they are more responsible.

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>I think ultimately it's not how badly it was handled,

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 3>but it's how badly she was the one who was

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>left out to dry during a cancer diagnosis, during a

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 3>chemotherapy treatment. There was no support, there was no protection

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 3>of her. It was just one instance after another that

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>she became the sacrificial lamb in that whole situation. On

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 3>one hand, the machine serves them so well and it

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 3>is a needed product, which is a huge revenue raiser.

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 3>It is imperative to them that we have a keen

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 3>interest in the monarchy. It is what keeps that wheel

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 3>constantly in motion. And I guess the dark side of

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 3>that is you don't get to shoes when you hop

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 3>off the bus, even if you should, even if you

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 3>should be able to say I'm entitled to privacy now,

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 3>which you are. Unfortunately, the wheels of that bus don't

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 3>stop moving just because now it is the time to

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 3>claim privacy. And on a very very very small scale,

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>this happened with britt when she was going through the

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 3>breakup with Jordan. Now I am not drawing comparisons between

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Kate Middleton and Brittany Hockley, Please let that be known

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 3>before someone jumps in our reviews and goes, oh my god,

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe. But what I'm saying is you guys

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>might remember britt was going through a breakup with Jordan,

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<v Speaker 3>and at the time, the media was ferociously reporting around

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 3>their breakup, and at the time they weren't yet broken up.

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 3>They were in the phases of a complicated situation of

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>her not knowing what was going on, of her hoping

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 3>that they were going to be able to resurrect the relationship,

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>and there were some gossip magazines and podcasts who were

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.479
<v Speaker 3>very much reporting that their relationship was over. And then

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 3>when she finally came out and said that we'd broken up,

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 3>it was like a heart we got you moment.

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>And the thing that was so hard to I.

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Actually feel further than that, I feel like people literally

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>then reported, see I told you months ago.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like we had the scoop. Yes, And the problem

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 3>with that is is, like, and we spoke about it.

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Britt feels very passionately around the fact that it doesn't

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>matter what scale of celebrity you are, there are always

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<v Speaker 3>things in life where you're entitled to privacy until the

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 3>point that you're ready to share that part of your story.

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Because just like when great things happen, I e. When

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I was pregnant with Marley, I didn't tell everyone that

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I was pregnant the day that I pissed on that

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 3>fucking pregnancy test.

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>You know I didn't.

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 3>But it's true though, right, like we choose the moments

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 3>to share the happy stuff, and we also should be

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 3>able to choose the moments to share the bad stuff.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 3>And the argument during that whole situation was people saying, well,

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 3>we're invested in your relationships, so we have a right

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 3>to know. And I think the bigger part here is

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the faux concern. And that's the same thing for Princess Kate.

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>It's this faux concern about her being, where is she?

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 3>What have you done with her? We care about her.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>The reality is, we don't really care about these people,

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>not deeply, not in a sense that we feel like

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 3>we are friends with them. We're concerned with the gossip.

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 3>We're concerned with like the water cooler chat around their lives.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 3>But at the bottom of it, they're real people, and

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 3>I do I do question how difficult it must be,

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 3>even though you've subscribed to it, even though you're brought in,

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 3>and even though you had a choice to join that

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.479
<v Speaker 3>royal family, how hard it must be as a mother

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 3>and as an individual in times of great family distress

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 3>and trauma, to navigate the public side of it, and

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 3>to be able to satiate the unsatiable needs of the

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 3>public audience, whilst also protecting your three children who didn't choose.

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>They just grew up in it.

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 4>All right.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, at this time, for accidentally unfiltered guys, you're embarrassing stories.

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>They're my favorite bit.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Please send them in. You need to send them in.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>If you have a humiliating story, that thing, that thing

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 3>that happened to you that you have been saying you're

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 3>never gonna speak about. You just want it to go

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 3>and stick your head in the sand and just die.

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 3>Tell us and we'll share it and we can all

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 3>laugh about it. Because when you claim and reclaim that

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>thing that makes you embarrassed, you can no longer be

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 3>embarrassed by it. Okay, This one reads I got a

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 3>woop band a few weeks ago.

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>In it, it's a woop band. It's that fitness band

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 2>that measures everything. It measures your sleep, It measures your

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 2>like a garment.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of more than that. There's a word strain, strain.

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>It measures and it tells you, like what percentage you

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>need to recover.

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 2>It's a strain, like what strain you've put on your body.

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>It frightens me. I do not want to know. Why

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:41.919
<v Speaker 3>would I want to know how close I am to death?

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Because data can be good for some people, No tracking

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>it can be good.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 2>That to me sounds anxiety riddling. I really want one. Matt.

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Matt has a garment and when he's asleep, every so

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 3>often the light would just turn on because something will

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 3>have happened. And then I get blinded by the light

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the night and he's just fucking

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 3>happily sleeping, get in his rams and there I am

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 3>getting blasted.

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>This one doesn't have a screen, so at least you'd

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 2>be more approving of a whoop How do you what

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>do you do? You go on line check it?

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's like to your phone to the APPA.

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it is important to the story.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I got a whoop band a few weeks ago, and

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>in an effort to encourage each other, my whole workplace

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>decided to add each other.

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 2>On the app.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I've only worked at this company for a few months,

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm close with some people, but not so close

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>with others.

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Our whoop data has become.

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>A real topic of chat in the office, something that

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 1>we are all bonding over. Fast forward to last Saturday night,

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>when I'd been to the gym in the morning and

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd gone out for some drinks with some friends in

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the evening. I ended up hooking up with a hot

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>guy that night, and we were going at it for

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>hours and hours. We barely had any sleep. Fast forward

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to Monday morning, when the whole group of us were

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>in the office and we were catching up about our

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>weekends when my CFO turns to me and said, interesting,

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>time to.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Be doing yoga for eighty six minutes.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd forgotten that my whoop bend had been on my wrist,

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.439
<v Speaker 1>and it just assumes the type of activity that you're

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>doing based off of previous data. Now my entire office

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>knows that particular session had me at sixty to seventy

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>percent of my max heart rate.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, she could have put in more effort than couldn't

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 2>she eighty six minutes?

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Why does she haven't linked for everyone to see. I

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>don't understand, because you can do that with Apple and

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>garment like share because it's meant to encourage, because people

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:28.280
<v Speaker 1>are competitive.

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Why do people care how much sleep you're getting.

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a competition, mate, of who's getting the most recovery.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 2>We're all fighting it out for who's the most ultimate human.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I hate this. I hate this as because you wouldn't

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>do well at it.

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you it would not be clocking up

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>eighty six minutes of yoga for me.

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>It was a good seven yoga session that they'll look

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 2>at mine.

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 3>It all just look like I'm in sleep, just laying

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 3>there in missionary that like Lauris left that had a

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 3>slightly elevated heart rate.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Good dream. Ah.

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh guys, if you have an accellent, unfilled story, send

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 3>them on into the DMS at Life Uncut podcast and

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 3>it is time for suck and sweet pops, what is

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 3>your suck?

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 1>My suck is so incredibly niche and I haven't actually

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>checked whether it's like, okay, I share this story. But

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the other day I was scrolling through Instagram and my

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend was sitting next to me, and at one point

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he kind of like really concerningly, went why are you

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at that?

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 2>And I was like what? And he's like, why are

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 2>you looking at that?

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And it was just a shot like a sponsored ad

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and it was for like a brand of

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>clothing or something.

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 2>And I was like why, what.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you mean, like huh? And he goes show me

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and I showed him and he was.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Like oh, and he kind of acted a little bit weird.

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>And after a while I was like, why are you

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>so concerned about what I'm looking at on Instagram?

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Was a sponsored ad?

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Is so strange? Turns out the model in it was

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>his ex girlfriend.

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>And now now because I.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Aged with that, fucking oh my god, how are we

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.720
<v Speaker 1>gotten to this part of the episode and you're only

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>telling me there're so hot?

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember?

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Wait, wait, do you remember when I told you about

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 3>how I bought the invisible zinc invisible zinc, and I

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 3>brought it home and Matt was like, what like the

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 3>same thing, like kind of and the girl the model

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 3>he dated before me, like some like super famous model,

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 3>and I would just bought.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>It because I was like, oh, I was just trying

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to keep some stages, trying to protect yourself from the

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>damaging effects of the sun, and now your relationship is damaged.

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm now being reminded as well because the product's there

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>in my bathroom and there's her beautiful face, her beautiful,

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>non sun damaged face that I want to look like

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because I bought the product that she looked good, she's great. Well,

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>now it seems as though this girl, and I'm so

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>sorry she listened to the podcast, how embarrassing for you.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>You're a fucking beautiful human being, in which I hate

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously naturally good for you, but you did sell the

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>clothes bad for me.

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 2>She pops up all the time.

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Now on my sponsored ads, I've actually screenshot six of them,

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>six separate.

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Do you send them?

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you send them to toblerone or do you just

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 3>screenshot them for your own sort of like torture.

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I send them to brit You can send them to

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>me now, and what is your sweet for the week.

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>My sweet for the week is very wholesome. Speaking of

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend, this is really insular this week. He's a

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>really good cook, and often that kind of pisses me

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>off because he's a better cook than I am.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>But every now and then I get to enjoy the

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>fruits of the labor.

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And the other night he made dinner for his friends

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<v Speaker 1>and I and on my job, we made a tira

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<v Speaker 1>massu from scratch, and my job was to whip the cream.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a what's the cooking appliance that.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to like pot, a kitchen master or something

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<v Speaker 1>who has whipped cream.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to do it by hand. I did it

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<v Speaker 2>with my arm. And now about pa think about how

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<v Speaker 2>grandparents used to survive. I don't need to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did do it. Keisha's out there washing her clothes

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<v Speaker 2>on a stove by the river. So he he made

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>But I contributed to a really, really delicious tiramisu. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying the things at the moment that are like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really trying to seek joy out of the process

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<v Speaker 1>of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I felt so fucking accomplished that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not use one electronic appliance other than the

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, wait, we'd use the fridge. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>heat it with? Just a campfire out the back? You

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<v Speaker 1>just like say, in the fridge, right, so you used

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<v Speaker 1>a fridge. Yeah, I used a fridge than that. Set

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<v Speaker 1>it in front of the air conditioner. Oh, that's also

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<v Speaker 1>an appliance. No, I don't have any. But anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a really, really beautiful dinner, and it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just that reminder that, you know, sometimes doing things

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<v Speaker 1>the old school weight can make you feel, can make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel the little dopamine surge that I've been seeking.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing better than like when you put something together

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<v Speaker 1>or you do something on your own and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm capable, Like I can make a bunk bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt so accomplished the lady. It was whip cream.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of you. All Right, mine suck for the week.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to get into a rant because I

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<v Speaker 3>have ranted about it so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>Takeisha, this is this is worthwhile of a rant. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a dick. It's okay. I hate him, I hate him,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate him.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I got a fine on the weekend guys.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not proud of it, but I got a fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I had Buster off leash about we were like four

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<v Speaker 3>houses down from my house. I live on a hill,

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<v Speaker 3>and Buster, being nine years old and having three legs,

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<v Speaker 3>he struggles these days, especially when it's hot. Man, he's

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<v Speaker 3>he is not the young, sprightly boy that he used

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<v Speaker 3>to be. So we were coming up our hill heading

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<v Speaker 3>towards our house and I'd taken him off leash, and

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<v Speaker 3>a fucking ranger he like pulls up his car, he

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<v Speaker 3>gets out and he goes, oh, I know you, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was you know, the whole interaction was shit. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just a terrible, terrible interaction. And part of me

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I know the rules, and this is not

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<v Speaker 3>me seeking any sort of like special treatment. But I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>we're four houses from our house and he is an

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<v Speaker 3>old dog with three legs who cannot get up the hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have some empathy for the poor thing. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>dogs do deserve space. Like he's to say, We're like,

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<v Speaker 1>let he's doing his best. I'm just trying to provide

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<v Speaker 1>a good quality of life for the poor guy, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I kind of was like everybody has to

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<v Speaker 1>do a job. And this is not me shitting on

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<v Speaker 1>rangers who ninety nine point nine percent of the time

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<v Speaker 1>do an exceptional job and their services are very very required.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep things. You know, what's the word just? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it cordial? Cordially?

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<v Speaker 3>I just disagree with you whatever, But this incident I

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<v Speaker 3>thought was so unreasonable. It was so unreasonable, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was so following rules for the sake of following rules. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>That was my situation. Is it relatable. No, is somebody

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<v Speaker 3>going to be like, bro, you did the wrong thing

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<v Speaker 3>and you deserve a fine. Absolutely? Was it a fucking

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<v Speaker 3>suck for my week? Yes, so that is my suck,

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<v Speaker 3>my sweet for the week. However, is that yesterday we

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<v Speaker 3>had such a good day with the girls. There was

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<v Speaker 3>like all these sweet activations down at Bondi Beach. We

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<v Speaker 3>took the kids. They got to do like pluster, fun

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 3>house shit for free. It was just it was a

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<v Speaker 3>free activation. They went and destroyed some sand castles that

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<v Speaker 3>were on the beach and they had the most amazing time.

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<v Speaker 3>And every so often when you have nothing on your

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<v Speaker 3>plate and you are able to just like clock in

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<v Speaker 3>with your kids and they go and do really sweet

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<v Speaker 3>things that you can tell really fills their cup. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, I'm loving this and I had a

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<v Speaker 3>really nice time. And then it ended with Matt going

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<v Speaker 3>and watching Idol and us sitting on the couch watching

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<v Speaker 3>Britt on TV. And it was a fucking good.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday raging about the dog ranger. I did rage. I've

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<v Speaker 2>raged a bit. I told you should send an email.

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<v Speaker 3>I did send an email. Anyway, guys, that is it

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<v Speaker 3>from us. Go and watch Brite on. I'm a celebrity,

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<v Speaker 3>Please vote. It is going to be like honestly, it

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<v Speaker 3>is up to us to keep her in the competition,

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<v Speaker 3>and if she ends up being crowned Queen of the Jungle,

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<v Speaker 3>it's because we did it.

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<v Speaker 2>We made it happen. I mean actually, though, because.

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<v Speaker 1>You've taken over her Instagram account, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trust to put in a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how i'd feel about giving someone to

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<v Speaker 2>log us to my social media. Oh no, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I've found some stuff, you know, the drill, Tell your mom,

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, don't tell you dot, tell your friends and

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