1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Jum mission with Joins and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: We spoke about this last week, with Naomi Saka saying 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: that she was not going to be doing postmatch interviews 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: after her games. Her matches are the French Open at 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Roland Garross. She has said, I often feel that people 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: have no regard for athletes and their mental health, and 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: this rings true whenever I see a press conference or 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: par take in one. We're often asked questions that bring 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: doubt into our minds, and I'm not going to subject 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: myself to people that doubt me. I believe the whole 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: situation is kicking a person while there down, and I 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: don't understand the reasoning behind it. She said, I know 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to be fine. Twenty thousand dollars, why not 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: give that money to a mental health charity. Lots of 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: interesting reaction to this in the last few days, and 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: she's been slammed my many people to the point where 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: she has now withdrawn from the French Open. 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: Wow. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: She said these words this morning. 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: This isn't a situation over imagined or intended when I 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: posted a few days ago. I think the best thing 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: for the tournament, the other players, in my well being 23 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: is that I draw so that everyone can go back 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: to focusing on the tennis. I never wanted to be 25 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: a distraction, and I accept that my timing was not 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: ideal and my message could have been clearer. More importantly, 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: I would never trivialize mental health or use the term lightly, 28 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: she said. The truth is I've suffered long bouts of 29 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: depression since the US Open in twenty eighteen, and I've 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: had a really hard time coping with that. Anyone that 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: knows me knows I'm introverted, and anyone that has seen 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: me at the tournaments will notice some often wearing headphones 33 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: that dull my social anxiety. Where she talks about she's 34 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: had depressions since the US Open in twenty eighteen. This 35 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: was the match where she won the final against Serena Williams. 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: She ended the match in tears despite of victory, her 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: first victory in a major tournament like that, because there'd 38 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: been tantrums from Serena Williams and that had whipped the 39 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: New York crowd into a frenzy. The reason she's saying 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: I do actually have I don't want to trivialize mental health, 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: but I do have some mental health issues is because 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: that's been a lot of the criticism that's been thrown 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: at her in recent days. 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Good old Piers Morgan. 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's laid into her, saying one thing is very clear, 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: this has nothing to do with mental health. What Osaka 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: really means is she doesn't want to face the media 48 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: if she hasn't played well because the beastly journalists might 49 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: actually dare to criticize her performance, and she's not going 50 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: to subject herself to quote people that doubt me. Then 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: he says she's an arrogance, spoiled brat, etcetera, etcetera. 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: He says he didn't drag Meghane. 53 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: How interesting, because this is what he said, Well he did. 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: This is straight out of the Meghan and how He 55 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 2: playbook of wanting to have the world's largest cake and 56 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: eating it by exploiting the media for ruthlessly commercial self promotion, 57 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: but using mental health to silence any media criticism. 58 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: Let it go, dude, let it go. I don't understand 59 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: why they interviewed tennis player. I'm not much of a 60 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: tennis fan, but my mum watches it and when she's watching. 61 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: I go why. I don't care if they lose the game. 62 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: They lose the game, so be a. 63 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Lot of people do care. A lot of people. 64 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: These are the heroes or these are the they follow 65 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: the nuances of the game, and. 66 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people do care. And that was the 67 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: discussion earlier. 68 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: Is because other journalists, other tennis players have said, we 69 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: owe this, this is part of the gig. Ash Barty, 70 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: Rafael Nadell among many top players who all said that 71 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: speaking to the press is part of the job. 72 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: Bring back the Woodies. Remember the Woodies. They're always chatty. 73 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 3: They were like the Beatles, making jokes. Bring those guys back. 74 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: But it's interesting that Naomi Sarka says, I'm very introverted 75 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: and this doing that side of it doesn't suit me. 76 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: I do my job on the court. Others are saying 77 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 2: your job is beyond the court. It's not just that, 78 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: And other journalists have said she gets criticized because she 79 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: doesn't play well on clay, and she doesn't want those 80 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: people to ask her about that while she's playing on clay. 81 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: What's with clay? 82 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: It's so weird, isn't it. They're playing on clay. Have 83 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: you ever played on a clay tennis court? 84 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 85 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: Remember when we were kids and Sydney was just tennis 86 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: courts everywhere. 87 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Those were the days there's so much space. 88 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: My grandparents had one in their backyard. 89 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: And it wasn't like a richie thing people, and. 90 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: They'd read it out to the tennis club. 91 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'd have ladies midweek tennis. 92 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: But I remember Mum used to hate it because we'd 93 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: run around on the tennis court and we slide on 94 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: the clay and then your whites are get all stains 95 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: or brown stains. 96 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Well, maybe Naomi should have been more specific about what 97 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: she doesn't like about clay. 98 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I get stains all over my skirt. 99 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: I would like to ask us some questions. How do 100 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: you keep you white? So white? Naomi? 101 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, wonder she's happy to pay twenty thousand dollars 102 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: to not answer that. 103 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: Jonesy and Amanda's