1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Jonathan Curzley is joining us now ten and nine at 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: US correspondent. Good morning, Jonathan, John, and good morning to you. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: Clery Elsa as all your listeners across beautiful w A. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan, I believe we might finally have some encouraging news 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: from the Gaza strip. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: The small Yeah. Look, yeah, this sort of true steal, 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: if you want to call it, that is now going 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: to come into effecting a matter of hours. In fact, 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: it will be one o'clock Perth time this afternoon that 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: the true steel will come into effect. It will last 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: for at this stage four days, and Israel is expecting 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: to receive thirteen hostages today that had been held by 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: how much. The detail was announced by Cutter, which has 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: been involved in the negotiations along with israel I must 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: in the United States as well as Egypt. They have 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: been heavily involved in these talks that have lasted some days. 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: The deal was signed a few days ago. As you 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: may well know, it was supposed to actually coming to 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: effect yesterday. There was a delay with that hummus actually 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: find it now they have so essentially we will see 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: a stop in the fighting, hopefully to allow the first 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: thirteen of women and children to be released. It is 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: going to be fifty over the course of four days, 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: and Israel has vowed that if if en the release 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: each day beyond that, then the fighting will stop for 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: each of those days. But this is essentially a stop gap. 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there's more than two hundred hostages that Israel 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: estimates are being held by Hummas, so it could take days. 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: It's not a couple of weeks for all of them 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: to be released if this truth holts. And that's the 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: big question on the ground now. Is the truth going 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: to hold and the hostages going to be released as 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: Hummas has agreed to it. Could we see a longer 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: sustained pause in the fighting. That's the next big question 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: that needs to be answered. America has eyes on a 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: much longer pause, if you like, perhaps hoping to bring 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: an end to the fighting all together. It Israel is 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: saying even once this truth deal is done, even if 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: the hostages are all released, then there will be fight 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: that will continue for at least a couple of months. 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: They have always vowed to crush from us. That was 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: the words of Israel's part on this a Benjamintiahu. But 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: there are promising signs today if you like that this 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: truth still will come into effect that the thirteen hostages 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: will be released on day one. Now we wait to 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: see whether that is actually going to be followed through. 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: So at this stage, is the truth strictly for the 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: logistics of transporting hostages home or will there be hopefully 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: some kind of talking going on as well. 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Well, you're going to see more aid going to Gaza 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: as well, which is going to be a significant moves role. 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: That's that's a key cornerstone of disagreement. The fighting itself 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: under this agreement will have to stop in order for 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: those hostages to be released. Even today though that Israel 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: has been carrying out attacks on Gaza itself, waiting essentially 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: until that truth still comes into effect one pm Perth 57 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: time when they will allow the first of the fifty 58 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: odd hostages to be released. But even after that, Israel 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: is saying that the fighting will resume again. They're not 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: calling this a cease fire, they're not saying that this 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: is essentially a piece still, they're calling it a truce. 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: I feel like it is a stop that measure to 63 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: get one of the goals that Israel wanted out of this, 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: which is the hostages released. If that all happens, and 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: there's a lot of ifs still in all of this, 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: then you could well see a longer sustained pause. But 67 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: that's going to require more hostages to be released, and 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: it's going to require much more talks between the United States, Cutter, Israel, Hamas, 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: and Egypt to all try and formulate this jigsaw, if 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: you like, to try and piece all the pieces of 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: the puzzle together to achieve what Israel wants to the hostages, 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: and then to try and secure some sort of sustained pause. 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: But there are plenty more answers than there are, plenty 74 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: more questions than there are answers, right. 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: And Jonathan, while all of this really important stuff is 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: going on, to a degree, the forgotten people, of those 77 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: people who are homeless and have lost family members and 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: a star, it can only be a good thing to 79 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: have to sease fighter gas. You say, get more supplies 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: in that they're so vital in the area. 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean you have to look to the 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: humanitarian situation that is taking place inside Gaza right now, 83 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: and there is no questions that it needs to get in. 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: And obviously America is hopeful that there could be a 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: American citizens, including a young three year old girl who 86 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: could be among the first of the hostages released. President 87 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: Bidens asked about that earlier, so he said he was hopeful. 88 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: But even once all of these hostages released, the question 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: is I mean, if that happens is obviously the first 90 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: if and then what happens from there. Israel is saying 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: as I said earlier, and there will be sustained fighting 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: even after the hostages if all of them are released, 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: are released. So this still has a very long way 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: to go there, and there is clearly a lot of 95 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: diplomatic pressure being put on Israel to sustain this truth. So, 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: I mean it is very difficult to see how they 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: won't be breaches by either side. The key piece of 98 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: this from a diplomatic perspective will be trying to hold 99 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: it for the four day is if they can hold 100 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: it for the four days, then there is hope that 101 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: it could hold beyond that, perhaps for a few more 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: days to allow more hostages to be released. But this 103 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: now is reaching a very crucial moment in what has 104 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: been a goggling and brutal cosslict in the Middle East. 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we hate to be a cynic but 106 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: we're not dealing with a situation that acts on reasonable terms, 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: are we. So let's just hope that you know the 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: truth does hold, because it will only take one slight 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: move from one for the other to completely engage again. 110 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: All right, Jonathan, Well, thank you for updating us this morning, 111 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: and we will certainly keep our fingers crossed, well. 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: Fingers crossed this truth hold. Yeah, some people can get 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: out and more innocent lives can be sad. 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks for everything you know and putting it in 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: Layman's terms for us. We appreciate your time. 116 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: Thanks Jonathan more of course on Channel nine. Jonathan is 117 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Channel nine's US correspondent.