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Speaker 1: Joining me live on the line is the Lord Mayor

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Speaker 1: of Darwin convat scalaskt Acorn.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie. It's a beautiful day and the sound

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Speaker 2: of Freeddom hitting the sky it certainly is.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Corn, I want to ask you.

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Speaker 1: I know that through your role with Legant, the Local

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Speaker 1: Government Council organization for the Northern Territory. Obviously, we've just

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Speaker 1: learned throughout the last twenty four hours that the Minister

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Speaker 1: for Local Government, Chancey Paig, has placed the Kumali Community

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Speaker 1: Government Council under official management and all elected members have

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Speaker 1: been suspended from office. Were you surprised by this announcement now?

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Speaker 2: Had I heard rumors that the council was dysfunctional, There

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Speaker 2: was some problems there, but the problem we've got here.

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Speaker 2: This is the second council in two years. I've been

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Speaker 2: under administration and Lagan for many many years have been

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Speaker 2: asking for the government to introduce legislation to strengthen the

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Speaker 2: cod of God that provisions would. Believe it or not, Katie,

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Speaker 2: were the only jurisdiction in Australia that any elected member

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Speaker 2: can breage a code of conduct without any consequences if

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Speaker 2: you go down south. In other places, people are suspended,

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Speaker 2: people are getting paid fined and paid fines, people suspended

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Speaker 2: for a period of time or even kicked out here. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: because there's non such provisions, people can do anything they like.

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Speaker 2: And this is what we find out in fighting in council.

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Speaker 2: Elected members not respecting other elected members or even council

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Speaker 2: staff and works. This situation today that creating uncertainty and

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Speaker 2: certainly doesn't provide confidence for the sect.

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Speaker 1: Well, and what does it mean for the people who

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Speaker 1: live in the shire. I know that they've obviously put

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Speaker 1: in Mark Blackburn appointed as the official manager and now

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Speaker 1: holds the powers of elected members, but the fact is

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Speaker 1: he's not elected the people who were on the council

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Speaker 1: obviously the ones.

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Speaker 2: That were well, this is a very interesting question. Now

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Speaker 2: mister Blackburn is going to be acting as the elected members.

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Speaker 2: You're right, people still receiving their services, their rabbis will

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Speaker 2: be picked up, they dogs can be registered, dog can

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Speaker 2: be picked up, but they're not going to be elected members.

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Speaker 2: But when we question the department, because the mayor or

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Speaker 2: the president of Kumali is a member of the board

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Speaker 2: of the gent and you can't be in the board

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Speaker 2: of the gun unless you're an actor, you're an elected member.

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Speaker 2: When we question the department, the department says, oh no,

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Speaker 2: they're still elected members. They've just been suspended. That creates

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Speaker 2: situations well again, and we have to actually go on

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Speaker 2: out and talk to our legal people and find out

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Speaker 2: where we stand. It's a very unfortunate and very distressed situation.

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Speaker 2: I'm not very impressed. I've been asking for a long

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Speaker 2: time about changes the legislation, and I've been asking both

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Speaker 2: the government and the opposition. Whoever is elected in government

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Speaker 2: after the elections in August, that's a priority in order

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Speaker 2: to establish or re establish confidence or local government in

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 3: So what exactly do you want to say changed?

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to actually put provisions there that if

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Speaker 2: you actually do not behave, you get punished if you

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Speaker 2: misbehave against your poor fello elected members, all the council stuff.

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Speaker 2: You've got the book thrown out here. You cannot just

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Speaker 2: go around being excubid without any consequences. This is a

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Speaker 2: sector that should operate as the best example of all

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Speaker 2: government or all government sectors. We ask private companies to

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Speaker 2: have proper governance, and here the territory we don't have

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Speaker 2: it because people feel that they're immune from any consequences

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Speaker 2: because there's no legislation behind it. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 2: have people abusing council stuff. I can't have people using

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Speaker 2: the CEO. I can't have elected members are using other

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Speaker 2: elected members and think that everything is all right.

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Speaker 1: Con look the other you know, and I know this

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Speaker 1: is like, this is sort of out of your jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: I think on the uck with legant and also obviously

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Speaker 1: as a miror of Darwin. But I still want to

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Speaker 1: ask you because people have been texting us about this

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Speaker 1: this morning and saying Katie, why is it a situation

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Speaker 1: where obviously the Kumali Council is you know, it's stood

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Speaker 1: down in the way that they have been, but you've

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Speaker 1: got like GA Council that has reportedly not filed their

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Speaker 1: annual reports for a number of years. There are a

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Speaker 1: number of other concerns that have been raised in a

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Speaker 1: report on the ABC a couple of months ago, but

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Speaker 1: they're able to continue to.

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Speaker 2: Operate and all the local government the territory comes under

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Speaker 2: the local Government app There are serious provisions how councils

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Speaker 2: should operate about governance and everything else.

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Speaker 3: It's time in jeer under that.

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Speaker 2: GERO is coming under the Corporation app. I can not.

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Speaker 2: Local government's a totally different entity and they have to

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Speaker 2: operate under the Corporation app. And the Corporation up is

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I want to move along.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about those major IT disruptions

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Speaker 1: that we saw last Friday for Microsoft juicers. It impacted

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Speaker 1: all kinds of businesses, airlines, banks, model shops, you name it.

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Speaker 3: How did the council fare well?

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Speaker 2: It impacted a lot of people. I was driving to

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Speaker 2: get some supplies from office works and yes, I could

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Speaker 2: not pay my bills. Fortunately, the guys there and then

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Speaker 2: immediately around my office to find out how we're firing

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Speaker 2: in our office. Some computers have the blue screen of death.

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Speaker 2: Others did not operate properly. We managed to overcome the

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Speaker 2: problem slowly insteadily, we came back in online and councils

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Speaker 2: now operating all right. I know it affected very much

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Speaker 2: TV parking application. It was coming up and coming down,

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Speaker 2: but munch you that's a very small issue. Comparing to

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Speaker 2: put people in jet style that couldn't go anywhere because

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Speaker 2: just our computers were completely done.

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Speaker 3: People have been asking that.

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Speaker 1: People have been asking that, what does it mean for

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Speaker 1: the parking meters that don't take cash?

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Speaker 2: Well, you can steple can still actually other use the

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Speaker 2: application out it's working right. You can use the barcode

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Speaker 2: or the QR code there which will take you to

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Speaker 2: a website and you can pay with that registered in

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Speaker 2: the application. You can talk to us all the time.

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Speaker 2: We can help us with installing the application or have

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Speaker 2: the art how to pay the car part stop now.

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Speaker 1: So when the internet was out though, did it still work?

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Speaker 1: I mean with the issue on Friday? Surely surely I was.

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Speaker 2: Working on Friday if nothing was working on Friday and

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Speaker 2: we were aware of this problem, so there's nothing much

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Speaker 2: we can do about it. It was actually came from overseas,

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Speaker 2: affected many confiders in Australia. But this is the safe

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Speaker 2: of things to come. Something goes wrong in America. America

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Speaker 2: called Everybody's nizes con very quick one.

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Speaker 1: I know that the fun Bus celebrated their thirty fifth

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Speaker 1: birthday on the weekend. Plenty of activities and entertainment for

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Speaker 1: the kids. I was there collecting my running number for

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Speaker 1: the half marathon. It was going off at the fun

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Speaker 1: Bus birthday.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. I went down to Lake Alexander and

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Speaker 2: I had the pleasure of making one of the ladies

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Speaker 2: who was part of the original four ladies that established

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Speaker 2: and around the fun Bus in the late seventies and

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Speaker 2: early eighties and the and I was such a pleasure

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Speaker 2: to meet you. And the wonderful thing is I met

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Speaker 2: people that said to me, oh, we work for the

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Speaker 2: fan Bus, but we used to go in fan Bus

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Speaker 2: when I was three and full five years old. I said,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the club. My bost my sons did the

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Speaker 2: fan Bus as well as many others, and as some

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Speaker 2: of these people working for the council. It was a

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Speaker 2: great opportunity to meet so many people and was great

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Speaker 2: to see so many kids and parents who I bet

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Speaker 2: you they also use the fun Bus when they were young.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely well combat scolars, Lord Mayor of Dallen.

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Speaker 3: Good to speak with you this morning. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: you again next week.

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Speaker 2: Certainitely have a good we can enjoy the weather.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanks con