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Speaker 1: Then there's knowledge and dwelling.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it's a little thought.

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Speaker 3: Then I'll bring you down.

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Speaker 1: Chant to get your tipsy like a drick love drunk.

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Speaker 4: Girl.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Lays.

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Speaker 4: We're in a long distance friendship that started nearly twenty

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Speaker 4: years ago when we were in high school.

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Speaker 5: We'll be talking about all things life, love, family, anything.

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Speaker 1: And everything else under the sun.

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Speaker 4: Doves deeper with us because in life, you know, Gene

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Speaker 4: and my lady, how have you been?

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Speaker 3: And since we last spoke?

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Speaker 1: Girl, whilst I sit on my childe your second I

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Speaker 1: should say, how are you doing? What do you.

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Speaker 4: I didn't bore you know out here just saying goodbye

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Speaker 4: the summer. I'm really I'm actually very sad about this

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Speaker 4: because summer lasted all of like five days.

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Speaker 3: But no, I'm litting you.

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Speaker 5: How crazy is it that it's like your total opposite.

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Speaker 5: I'm like still in winter and your own swapping. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited to do this and let's let the

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Speaker 5: people know all about us.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm screwed, but you know, we do

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Speaker 4: what we do, like where we come from. We yes,

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Speaker 4: so people best be known don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 3: I don't know I'm being six three.

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Speaker 4: Remember do you remember to sixty Tuesday Tuesday three Tues?

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Speaker 3: What was that? Shows that I was soap opera of.

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Speaker 1: Not yeah it talking about it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure we try. So if you don't know

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Speaker 4: That means we come from Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe, Amanda, where is Babwe?

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Speaker 4: Because you know, people don't always know their orientation and stuff.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you Australians where I am. Now, I

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Speaker 1: You're from, like Zimbabwe.

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Speaker 3: They'll look at me like yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, it's on top of South Africa. Okay, okay

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Speaker 5: exactly they would know South Africa, Southern Africa exactly.

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Speaker 4: But then sometimes I always hear like, so I'm in

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, exactly, all right, So where so we've said

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Speaker 5: I'll probably take up this whole time slot to tell

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Speaker 5: you so studied in Zimbabwe in terms of my childhood,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: For three ish, time is flying.

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Speaker 5: So it's like, yeah, yeah, I honestly think my review

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Speaker 5: You haven't come of age yet, you haven't paid your taxes,

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Speaker 5: So I feel like I fondly think of these things.

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Speaker 5: I know, even when I go there on holidays, you're

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Speaker 5: That notion to think of a Zimbabwe like that now

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Speaker 1: Those notes are completely so. I think you're right. Nostalgia

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Speaker 5: We'll say this episode, whole episode, whole episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how did we meet?

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Speaker 4: Like tell the people the people want or maybe they

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Speaker 5: The people shouldn't care because I don't because I don't remember.

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Speaker 5: Like I was, like, what was my first conversation with Room?

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Speaker 1: They're just sorry sidebar, but my nails are a problem

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Speaker 3: That was Form three. We lived in the same door or.

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Speaker 3: But like, yeah, so like I have certain.

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Speaker 1: Walking well when when running that cross country made me right?

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely absolutely, you know for sure.

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Speaker 3: But it was dope. I mean some really great grade.

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Speaker 4: Apparently we're going to share now, like what we love

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Speaker 4: to bring people together. She's a connector. She's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: my gosh, Oh my gosh. Remember Thailand and.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have a travel we were gonna go and

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Speaker 4: But basically this chick literally said to me stop that

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Speaker 3: For me, ultimately friendship.

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Speaker 4: As much as you want to kiki together and like

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Speaker 3: And help me through.

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Speaker 4: And one of my favorite things about us and our

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 4: I'm good this person. But yeah, so that's you know,

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Speaker 4: She like gets things done, and like we're similar in

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's what I love about you, Amanda.

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Speaker 5: I think I actually as you were talking, I was thinking, wow,

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Speaker 5: But art classes were amazing, Like having the music on

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Speaker 5: and the way you navigate life is so liberating, Like

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love that about you. And you're like loyal, low yo,

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm loyal, but yeah, there's a picture of you

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Speaker 6: you on that, like maybe sometimes to your own detriment,

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Speaker 6: but that's like for me, it's all benefits because you know,

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Speaker 1: Like even when I was thinking about you.

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Speaker 5: Know, getting married and brought out, which will go into

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Speaker 5: And I feel like you're very good at like taking

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Speaker 1: So I love that. I love, love love that about you.

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh, girl, they didn't see the conversations we have

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Speaker 1: I think we think experts on everybody.

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Speaker 1: Our opinions have layers.

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Speaker 3: Layers to them that I love that this month.

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Speaker 5: So when I ask you a question about something that

447
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Speaker 5: we start somewhere else and we segue into something completely Yeah,

448
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Speaker 5: but it shows me the depth of conversation. And like

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Speaker 5: I think, as you said, maintaining this twenty year friendship

450
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Speaker 5: would not happen without that.

451
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Speaker 1: You know, you can't do the whole how are you?

452
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Speaker 1: I'm good. It doesn't It doesn't.

453
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Speaker 5: Work to keep something like this where you're growing separately

454
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Speaker 5: but you're not growing apart. You have to put the

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Speaker 5: work in, but in a fun way. I feel like

456
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Speaker 5: it's always fun. I'm always laughing, even through the trenches

457
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Speaker 5: and the womens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're laughingly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we need it. It keeps us going. Oh

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Speaker 3: you're so thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you having virtual hugs, receiving virtual hugs.

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Speaker 1: I know even if you know, be like girls, you're

463
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Speaker 1: not soft.

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Speaker 3: So what we also get hard? Yeah, but we also

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Speaker 3: keep it one hundred Okay. Yeah, So.

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Speaker 4: How has COVID nineteen slash twenty twenty affected because maybe

467
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Speaker 4: too as an introduction to this is we were actually

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Speaker 4: supposed to see each other this year and also under

469
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Speaker 4: like not great circumstances at all. And you know, when

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Speaker 4: you're clinging on to like we're both going through like

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Speaker 4: the most, and you're like holding on and be like okay, Lita,

472
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Speaker 4: I'm want to see my person and like we're just

473
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Speaker 4: gonna you know.

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Speaker 3: And then COVID came and I.

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Speaker 1: Was just COVID, It's not even a curveball. It's like

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Speaker 1: a completely different planet.

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Speaker 5: We've been pushed on too, Like seriously, h I think

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Speaker 5: that's the thing that a sport of people can understand

479
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Speaker 5: the most. Those trips home, those trips to see siblings.

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Speaker 1: Friends, they mean so much to us. They are a

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Speaker 1: moment of reflection. There are moment of rejuvenation. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: a moment where you can just be you, you know.

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Speaker 5: So when to have that grabbed away from you the

484
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Speaker 5: way it was with COVID, like I mean, I'm so

485
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Speaker 5: grateful that we're both healthy and say, yeah, for sure,

486
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Speaker 5: but it was so heartbreaking because I was I was

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Speaker 5: in Germany and Rumby was in check and we couldn't

488
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Speaker 5: see each other because the borders are closed clothes.

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Speaker 3: And literally the border is closed.

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Speaker 4: Like the day before I was supposed to leave to

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Speaker 4: go see like literally like no, lie, it was like Friday.

492
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Speaker 4: The Czech government was like borders closed, and then Saturday

493
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Speaker 4: I was supposed to be get so it was just like, yeah,

494
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Speaker 4: so close, but so far as And.

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Speaker 5: Then even for us, the trip was I think we're

496
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Speaker 5: meant to fly out. I was meant to go through

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Speaker 5: Switzerland and see my brother and my nieces, and the

498
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Speaker 5: borders closed.

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Speaker 1: Then we literally I literally arrived on a Thursday and

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Speaker 1: left on on Tuesday. So it was just like in

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Speaker 1: and out.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, none of the start to.

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty, it came, gad, what about everyone who was

504
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Speaker 5: like twenty twenty my year, I'm claiming twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm leaving all your people behind.

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Speaker 3: New decades, say what, say what?

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Speaker 5: Hey, But you know what, a lot of growth has happened,

508
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Speaker 5: a lot of self reflection, a lot of pausing. You

509
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: were going way too fast sometimes. I think it was

510
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Speaker 5: necessary to have a break. At some point it was

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Speaker 5: going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, it's very devastating for anyone who's lost someone during

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Speaker 5: two COVID Yeah, and you know you just obviously you

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Speaker 5: will send condolences to all of them, but at the same.

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Speaker 1: Time, you do this thing for the whole world in general,

517
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Speaker 1: it was a good it was a time to.

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Speaker 4: There was time to pause. Absolutely, yeah, man, and I agree.

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Speaker 4: I can't agree more. And I think it also spread

520
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Speaker 4: on a lot of creativity for a lot of people

521
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Speaker 4: to really start saying, like what am I here to do?

522
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Speaker 4: Like I can't just be like existing because life can

523
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Speaker 4: literally be taken away from And we knew this, like

524
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: we've all experienced loss in terms of someone close to

525
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Speaker 4: us passing away. But I think it's just really hit home.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why we even decided to do

527
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Speaker 4: the podcast, because you can.

528
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Speaker 3: Talk about we'll do a podcast, but you'll.

529
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Speaker 4: Always postpone it. You'll always be like, I'll do it later.

530
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Speaker 4: And for those of you who don't know, Amanda is

531
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Speaker 4: a stylist, fashion stylist. She studied you know, she's been

532
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Speaker 4: growing her business like building on like this has been

533
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Speaker 4: a dream in the making, which I'm so proud to

534
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Speaker 4: see her.

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Speaker 3: Actually like realize. And I know, you know, I think

536
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Speaker 3: it was someone on Instagram. I don't know if it's

537
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Speaker 3: Shiona Tarini.

538
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Speaker 4: She's a stylist and she was like, I feel bad

539
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Speaker 4: talking about clothes during a pandemic, but also the joy

540
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Speaker 4: that it comes with and I remember like you just

541
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Speaker 4: be and just being like just carry on sharing, and

542
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Speaker 4: you know, because it's that little reprieve and the bit

543
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Speaker 4: of joy that we can all you know, see at that.

544
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Speaker 4: How has COVID I think we know how COVID has

545
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Speaker 4: affected businesses, but you personally and how it has inspired

546
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Speaker 4: you as well, Like what has that whole experience been

547
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Speaker 4: like for you with your business?

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Speaker 1: I think it's made me stop procrastinating. It's like the

549
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Speaker 1: time is now, you know.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes when you're creative, you're a very perfectionist, yes,

551
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Speaker 5: and be very critical of your work and see very

552
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: like protective of your work too because you're like it's

553
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 5: not ready, it's not ready, it's not ready, but can

554
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Speaker 5: see then you marinate on something and possibly over marinate

555
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Speaker 5: on something. Yes, And I think the other day you

556
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Speaker 5: were sharing remember on Instagram you shared a quote who

557
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Speaker 5: shared who actually said it, but was talking about just start,

558
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Speaker 5: doesn't have to be perfect, doesn't have to bet everything

559
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Speaker 5: laid out, Just begin. And I think you know twenty

560
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Speaker 5: twenty COVID this pandemic had like sown that seed in

561
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Speaker 5: me where it's like just do who cares if the

562
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Speaker 5: grid doesn't look perfect on Instagram. Yea, if you know clients,

563
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Speaker 5: you can't see clients face to face. It all has

564
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Speaker 5: to be online.

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Speaker 1: Who cares like just do better? Like action better than

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Speaker 1: no action at all.

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Speaker 5: And I think I was at a point where I

568
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Speaker 5: was just like, it has to be this has the

569
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Speaker 5: perfect it has to be like and then got you

570
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Speaker 5: know when when this all happened, it took that all,

571
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Speaker 5: And then I was like, and also I have to

572
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Speaker 5: say when you're when you're balancing two businesses, because obviously

573
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Speaker 5: you have a ninety five and you have the business

574
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Speaker 5: you actually want to do, which I think a lot

575
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Speaker 5: of disports a lawyer or in geniality cannot be anything else.

576
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Speaker 5: God Like, it's like also thinking I can actually let

577
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Speaker 5: go of this ninety five job. That's kind of bottom

578
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 5: more to the forefront, where it's like what am I

579
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Speaker 5: waiting for?

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Speaker 1: Before?

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Speaker 5: I think we were always told about security security, security,

582
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Speaker 5: but this pandemic showed us there's no such thing.

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Speaker 3: There is no such thing, bruh.

584
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Speaker 5: Thing, people being in companies for whatever years we're told

585
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: CIA yeah, yeah, yeah, no, It's like, okay, what have

586
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: you been doing? And yeah, of course I can get it,

587
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: like you want if you have a family, especially, you

588
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: don't want to just be like flaky with things.

589
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there comes to.

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Speaker 5: The point if you have a passion you're trying to

591
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Speaker 5: chase and trying to do there's never going to be

592
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Speaker 5: a perfect.

593
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Speaker 3: Time, So do it. Just do it. Literally, what about you?

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Speaker 1: How are you finding one of this?

595
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's definitely like you said, reflective.

596
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: I really started delving into like who is roomy, what

597
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: does Roomy want to do? Those questions that we asked,

598
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: and it kind of forced me to, you know, like

599
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Speaker 4: get my own consulting going, like with marketing and you know,

600
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Speaker 4: with brands, and it's been good and even my voice

601
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Speaker 4: to really just be like, at the end of the day,

602
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Speaker 4: you do have a voice, And I think I don't

603
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Speaker 4: know what it is in me that felt like I

604
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: no longer had a voice or I shouldn't have something

605
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: to say. Also, because the streets be noisy, as in

606
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: like social media is just loud. Everyone is an expert

607
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: on everything, and I'm sure someone will look at us

608
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: and be like, you think you're experts on something. But

609
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: I'm also learning that at the end of the day, someone,

610
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Speaker 4: if one person resonates with you, you were meant to share.

611
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Speaker 3: That one thing. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: So really, you know about just doing just trying, just

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Speaker 4: you know, believing in yourself, like that all this experience

614
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: you've had was not for nothing, it was really for something.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, it's been interesting.

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Speaker 4: It's been busy, like you said, juggling things because I'm

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Speaker 4: teaching full time and also like trying to do this

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Speaker 4: so high stress, high like you know, but at the

619
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Speaker 4: same time feeling good because I feel like I'm investing

620
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Speaker 4: in myself and in my future and the future I

621
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Speaker 4: want and doing the things I want to do for myself.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's.

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Speaker 5: Totally It goes without saying twenty twenty it was quite

624
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Speaker 5: a pivotal moment for black lives.

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure. For sure.

626
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Speaker 1: So I think this is the time to actually.

627
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Speaker 5: Push your businesses, to push your creative, to push your voices,

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Speaker 5: you know. And I think, like even for me here

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Speaker 5: living in a predominantly white community, Yeah, yeah, they Finally,

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Speaker 5: I feel like when Black Lives Matter happened, and rest

631
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Speaker 5: in peace to all the victims, you know, I just

632
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Speaker 5: feel like it made people actually stop and listen. And

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Speaker 5: I don't think that would have happened if it wasn't

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Speaker 5: for a pandemic. You know, people are now actually asking

635
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Speaker 5: the right questions, actually reading and researching on the right topics.

636
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Speaker 5: Whereas I think if they could go out with their

637
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Speaker 5: friends and carry on lives as normal, or it would

638
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Speaker 5: not have why research on you know, another race, another tribe,

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00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: another completely different set of people.

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Speaker 1: When you're like, when you can go out and have

641
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Speaker 1: fun and you.

642
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: Know, ignore, pretend like life is dandy, tell everything.

643
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 5: Is normal, and I feel like, you know, the momentum

644
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Speaker 5: from that, if not for anything else, it should be

645
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Speaker 5: that people actually stopped and got it. You know, when

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Speaker 5: you explain why privilege, people always used to say before.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not rich. I also don't have money. It's like,

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Speaker 1: well that's not what you know.

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00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: I know the word privilege you associated with wealth, and yeah,

650
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 5: to some extent, we're talking about that too, but it's

651
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Speaker 5: also just the basic rights that's literally still at the foundation.

652
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: And I feel like as creatives for both of us

653
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 5: and with this podcast and also being Disporta and also

654
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Speaker 5: being African, like it's like where are we all fitting?

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Speaker 4: And yeah, no, for sure for sure and for you

656
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Speaker 4: in terms of like your first year of marriage, like

657
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Speaker 4: and spending a whole chunk like quarantined and like all

658
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Speaker 4: the how has that been?

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Speaker 5: You probably need an episode of that generally, to be honest,

660
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Speaker 5: I loved it. I probably am very People probably call

661
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 5: it a honeymoon phase, so they're like, oh, yeah, of

662
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 5: course you would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think we work such busy lives. My husband works

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Speaker 5: shift work, twelve hours a day construction. Anyone out there

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Speaker 5: who knows what that's like. It's rotating shift sometimes in

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Speaker 5: the whole week without actually really seeing each other. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I feel like we've got time to just again

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Speaker 5: pause and so just be as a couple because I

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Speaker 5: mean straight after we went home, because I went home

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Speaker 5: to get the traditional wedding done, then I went to

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Speaker 5: Hamburg so Rumby she came over for an engagement party.

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Speaker 5: Then we came back and got married in Perth. I

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Speaker 5: feel like we just went straight back into normal life.

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Speaker 5: And then yeah, it kind of made us pause again

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Speaker 5: and yeah, yeah, it's been good.

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Speaker 1: Was good.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I enjoyed.

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Speaker 5: I really really actually enjoyed it. You know, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of stuff going around saying two things are going

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00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: to be babies or divorce. Yeah, we're definitely not on

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Speaker 5: the divorce one, so one, but we're like a happy medium.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 4: No, that's so awesome, right, yeah, I'm so glad.

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Speaker 1: What about you was love during Quarantine?

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a movie. Love during Quarantine?

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Speaker 1: Did you do a week?

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Speaker 3: No, it's similar to you it actually.

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Speaker 4: You know, because our relationship is pretty young, right if

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00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: you look at it on the scale of like relationships.

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Speaker 3: But it actually really was good to.

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Speaker 4: Kind of we got to really see each other and see,

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Speaker 4: you know, how we deal under like extremely difficult situations

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Speaker 4: and like supporting each other.

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Speaker 3: Like the pandemic was just like the.

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Speaker 4: Of the iceberg because there was so much more going

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Speaker 4: on in our lives individually and to get so it

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Speaker 4: was just like a lot, but the support, Like I

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Speaker 4: don't know how I would have survived to the pandemic

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Speaker 4: without having my partner, Like he was incredible and just

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Speaker 4: so supportive and a source of strength and comfort, especially

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Speaker 4: being so far away from home, especially without having really

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Speaker 4: that much family. And I say family like friends you

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: can call family out here, and so that I really

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00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 4: a'm like, God, you knew what she was doing, like

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Speaker 4: literally knew boo.

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Speaker 1: He put him writing a past at.

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Speaker 3: The perfect time. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: So I'm definitely grateful. It was great to be around

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Speaker 4: each other like more and oh it was yeah just yeah,

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Speaker 4: like you said, I'm grateful for it for sure. And

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Speaker 4: we didn't kill each other like like space wasn't like

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Speaker 4: like there was. We survived, like we didn't shoot each

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Speaker 4: other and that was the best part for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so weird, right, Like I think people take

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Speaker 1: it for granted when you and die Sporta.

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Speaker 5: They forget that, you know, like we talk about Ubuntu

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Speaker 5: in our culture and people forget about that.

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Speaker 1: When you leave Zimbabwe, it's like you're alone. You're literally alone.

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Speaker 3: People.

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Speaker 5: Some people leave with their siblings, lucky them simple live

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Speaker 5: with their families, their little like their nuclear family, maybe

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Speaker 5: their mom, dad, siblings and lucky them too. But for majority,

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Speaker 5: I feel there's more majority that just leave and then

726
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Speaker 5: make their friends their family. The ones who are signing

727
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 5: leases with you. They're your guarante calls on loan, ones

728
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Speaker 5: you know you're next of kin if you're not to

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Speaker 5: go to hospital.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones who actually so then.

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Speaker 5: When you go back home and you're like this is

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Speaker 5: my friend and we just think on your friends, you're

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Speaker 5: like no, no, no, no, no no, I can't even

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Speaker 5: explain it anymore.

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Speaker 1: And it's only when you've been out and experienced.

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Speaker 5: That whole, like like a proper friend, you're like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: yes for a lot of listeners, but I support, I

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Speaker 5: would get this, like, yeah, for sure, family means meant

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Speaker 5: so much more of this pandemic.

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Speaker 1: You realize how load and how connected you were.

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Speaker 4: No, for sure, one hundred, one hundred hundred percent, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's really I'm glad, and I'm glad grateful that both

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Speaker 4: of us have come out with grateful hearts, even though

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00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: it was really difficult or has been.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we're going into winter here, some.

746
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Speaker 4: Restrictions are going to start back up, and but you know,

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Speaker 4: just grateful for the experience so far and we were safe,

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Speaker 4: that we're safe, yeah, and the support structures we have.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I didn't see you. I know.

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Speaker 5: I am grateful that you know, we will see each

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Speaker 5: other again soon and we're doing this podcast, so definitely

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Speaker 5: do you see see you.

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Speaker 4: Booth, But yeah, checking out on you and taking up

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Speaker 4: on you. But this is just like an introduction into

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Speaker 4: us into our thinking a little bit why we even

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Speaker 4: started this thing.

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Speaker 3: We really hope you will join us.

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Speaker 4: For the journey, the conversations we would love to hear

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Speaker 4: from you and what what can they expect from our podcast?

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Speaker 1: What can we I think everything and any there's no limits,

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Speaker 1: no limits.

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Speaker 3: Guys, the limit and you know that ye.

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Speaker 1: Song. By the way, people, we don't need to have

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Speaker 1: music or the DJ will just just seeing that and people.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise she would be doing all three if she could.

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Speaker 3: One man, one man show, One man showed the heck.

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Speaker 5: But like everything is going to be covering love. We're

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Speaker 5: going to be covering dating, getting into love. We're going

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Speaker 5: I mean from Zim going into a Western cult show.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be covering careas. We're gonna be covering so

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Speaker 5: much everything. But if there's anything people want to specifically

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00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: hear from us or want us to discuss, just let

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Speaker 5: us know, give.

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Speaker 3: Me a call, let us know, text us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh and we are on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: It's layered so it's I T s l a y

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Speaker 4: e r e D and our email if you'd like

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Speaker 4: to shoot us an email.

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Speaker 3: Is it's layered pod so I T s l A

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Speaker 3: y e r e D p O D at gmail

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Speaker 3: dot com. So that's how you can hit us.

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Speaker 1: Up, give me up, and then we can doubt even deep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Gina Malayas, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Amanda, I'll see you on the next episode. Bye everybody, Bye,

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Speaker 3: it's this.

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Speaker 5: I'll bring your downant to get your TYPSI like Coge