1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. Coming up on the episode 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: this year's scandalous start to Love Island, Australia, Instagram scraps, 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: It's much love stalking tool and why Prince Harry's powerful 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: letter calling out the British press has resonated with so 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: many of us. But first, Amy, he had a rather 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: interesting run in this week. Well, I've been calling it 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: a run in to you, but it was hardly a 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: run in. I was out working and out the corner 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: of my eye this figure emerged of this person that 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: I cannot stand, that I've had beef with in the past, 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: who was really awful to me. And I was like, 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's her. And it's always the way 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: it seems that, you know, when I run into people. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: I don't particularly like seem to see everybody when you're 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: looking terrible. But at this time, obviously I was there 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: for work, so I had scrubbed up okay, but she 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: was wearing a tracksuit looking her worse, and she just 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: looked at me with care eyes, and she looked down 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: and kept working. And to put this into perspective, I 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: don't like to badmouth people, but this girl's not a 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: nice girl. So he gave me a bit of a 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: kick seeing her out. It wasn't quite as scandalous as 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: the first time we had it a run in with her, 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: but that's probably such another time. What about you, Well, 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I've had the long weekend from hell. I've spent all 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: of Saturday in the emergency department. I was there from 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: one thirty till five am, back again for another eight 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: hours because my boyfriend had severe food poisoning. So you're 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: not recommending they passed a shop down the street, are here? No? 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: The local spag bowl down the roy didn't do very well, 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: so I would not be eating there again. And moving 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: on to our first segment, We've waited over a year 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: for the return of Love Island Australia and it didn't 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: disappoint if ratings were anything to go by. But amy 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: was it all that it was cracked up to be? Well? 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: I had been really excited to tune into Love Island Australia. 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I must admit I've been having withdrawal since Love Island 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: UK ended, but I was really really disappointed. Normally, Love 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Island is located in a beautiful villa in Spain. That happened, 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: of course, in the UK season and also last year's 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: season of Love Island Australia. But this year it was 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: in Fiji and it looked cold and windy, like everyone's 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: hair was blowing around. And I know they filmed Bachelor 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: in Paradise in Fiji and it also looks very dreary. 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: The show itself looked like it had been shot by 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: a couple of amateurs. It didn't have the colors. It 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: looked like it hadn't been colored properly. The villa is shit. 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: It's like this tiny little pool. It looks like you 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: know when you go on to book your Barley holiday 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: and you see the beautiful pictures and you rock up 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: and it looks nothing like it. That's literally what Love 52 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Island felt like for me last night. It did appear 53 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: that it was all thrown together very quickly and there 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: was a low budget, which is quite surprising because it's 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: been moved from nine Go to the main channel and 56 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: it's being touted as one of the station's breakout shows. Well, 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: that's what I was surprised, as you said. One of 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: the nine people on Twitter wrote, they consider it to 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: be their next breakout success, but yet they've put no 60 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: money behind the Villa. I know it's not all about 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: the location, but even the people on it just seem lame. 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,279 Speaker 1: As we mentioned on the show last week, we suspected 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: that there may have been a quick turnaround for the 64 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: filming of Love Island Australia and they've just gone for 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: influences and they had no personality. Well, it seems like 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: they are very much riding off the coattails of Love 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Island UK that was obviously a ratings juggernaut, and they 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: seem to just be resting on the laurels of that 69 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: show that people are going to tune in. There was 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: a huge amount of people tuning in, but it will 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: be very interesting to see if that number continues. Well, well, 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: it was four hundred and ninety four thousand people tuned 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: into Love Island Australia last night, and if you compare 74 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: that to the one hundred and fifty five thousand which 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: tuned in last year, you can see this show is 76 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: just growing and growing in popularity. But I'm going to 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: be interested to see, perhaps tonight's episode how many people 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: have switched off. And I have seen online the Male 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: con Testance being criticized already for their treatment of some 80 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: of the women on the show. Can you tell us 81 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: a bit more about that, Amy, Oh, I mean I 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: saw a bit about that. I mean, to be honest, 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even really see any personality from the men. 84 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: They just seem like the typical idiots that they try 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: and bring in, Whereas you know when you watch Love 86 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Island UK, the men actually have personalities and they're funny, 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: and these guys just I think there was a conversation 88 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: about what dogs the people like. A lot of young 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: girls are saying online that it shows the lack of 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: dating talent in Australia. I mean in the UK, a 91 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of the men, as you're saying, were charismatic, had personality. 92 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't just the men that were being criticized. There 93 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: were a few articles that came out slamming Love Island, 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: saying it had kicked off a race route because the 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: only woman of color, Cynthia, was picked last. And to 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: be honest, when I first read that, I was just thinking, 97 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: is this just like political correctness gone mad? Obviously it 98 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: is based on appearance, but she didn't step forward for 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: every guy. She only stepped forward I think for one 100 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: of them, and he chose to go with another girl, 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: which is obviously his prerogative. Love Island UK also copped 102 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: a lot of flak when Yowanda, who is also a 103 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: woman of color, was picked last, and also Sharif was 104 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: picked last as well. Well. I read that article. They 105 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: were saying basically that Sharif didn't get picked. But then 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was a bit strange. They were saying, Oh, 107 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: there was also a bit of outraw because Michael got 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: picked by Amber originally and then she decided to ditch 109 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: him for Callum, who was white. But it's like it 110 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the color of their skin. 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: It was a bit ridiculous as well, because Amber is 112 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: a woman of color, so I don't it just didn't 113 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: make any sense. But what did add validity to the 114 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: claims was Dremper Marcel, who was on the season before 115 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: he was great, he was on this boy band anyway. 116 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: He actually put a tweet out saying, come on, you 117 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: got to pick the guys, like you got to pick 118 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: the guys of color and whatever. So I don't know 119 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: if he was joking. And that wasn't the only scandal 120 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: of the night, was it. No, Well, it seems like 121 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: the scandals that have happened outside of the show were 122 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: actually more interesting than what they aired last night. There's 123 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: an influencer called Christie Swadling, and I hope I'm pronouncing 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: that right. She had come out I think a week 125 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: or so ago, and actually said that she was dating Marcel, 126 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: who was one of the men from Love Island last night. 127 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Now he claimed he was a content producer and ran 128 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: this social media company. Well, she's hit out online saying 129 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: that he must have been applying to be on Love 130 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Island while he was dating her. How many views has 131 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: that video got because she has timed it pretty well 132 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: with the launch of the show last night. I had 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: nineteen thousand views when I watched it, and it was 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: pretty compelling. She put the video out to address the 135 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: rumors because she was quite public with this guy on 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: her Instagram. I had to look back and there were 137 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: all these vlogs that they'd done together that looked like 138 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: a really cute couple. It's very reminiscent of the Grant 139 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: crap situation where he hadn't a girlfriend and allegedly left 140 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the show, but then she was in on it and 141 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: she wasn't in on it. Well, it's a little bit 142 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: different because I don't grant Crap's girlfriend wasn't an influencer. 143 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: So Christy has hit out on YouTube and she said 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: he loved the idea of fame. He always wanted to 145 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: go live in my stories, you know, show himself. He 146 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: always wanted to be tagged, etc. So he loved the 147 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: idea of having fame and followers and likes. And he 148 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: would always say to me, let's get me to this 149 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: amount of following, Let's get me to this amount of likes. 150 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: And I didn't really think much of it. I mean, 151 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: a lot of bells would personally be ringing for me, 152 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: is not a huge red flag. Did Christie explain how 153 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: she found out that he was appearing on the show 154 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: or was it until she saw him on air. She 155 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: revealed that she met Marcel through her management, so he 156 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: was actually acting as a manager to her, liaising with 157 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: brands to work out deals for her, and that's how 158 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: their relationship started. But she said she started to notice 159 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: that he wasn't actually doing that good of a job 160 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: and she had to hire a personal assistant and jump 161 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: to the conclusion now that maybe he was sabotaging her 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: because he sounded like he was a little bit jealous 163 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: of her fame. She was a little bit confused. She 164 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: said that he had told her that he was going 165 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: to be appearing in an ad for Love Island, you 166 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: know how they do the teasers and it's not really 167 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: the people, but then suddenly dumped her a week after 168 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: because it obviously been offered the gig. I don't know 169 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: how we thought he'd get away with it. I mean 170 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: she's a huge influencer with followers who are invested in 171 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: her life, people who obviously recognize him through her channel. Yeah, 172 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: you're exactly right, and like we didn't need any more 173 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: proof that the contestants on Love Island Australia are merely 174 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: there to grow their Instagram careers. Moving on to this 175 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: week's top headlines, Life insurance for selfie deaths. How we've 176 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: reached peak stupidity and that's from the age. So this 177 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: was an opinion piece by Casey Edwards, who received an 178 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: email from an insurance broker saying, if you love sharing 179 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: your adventures on social media, be sure your insurance has 180 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: you covered. So the writer drew two conclusions from this. 181 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: As a society, we've either reached peak stupidity and insurance 182 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: companies are trying to protect us from ourselves, or the 183 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: insurance company has found a new way to monetize. What 184 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: do you think of this type of insurance for selfies? Well, 185 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that silly. If you watch the 186 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: news every week, there seems to be someone dying from 187 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: either taking a selfie or doing an extreme YouTube video. 188 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: I think it just shows how we're evolving as a society. 189 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: There's stats showing there's actually been two hundred and fifty 190 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: nine deaths while posing for selfies between October twenty eleven 191 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: to November twenty seventeen, so you can imagine that it 192 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: probably has climbed as well in the two years since 193 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: that study was released. Is that over in the whole 194 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: world or is that just in Australia. That's the whole world, 195 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: I believe, But to put it into perspective, you're five 196 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: times more likely to die from taking a selfie than 197 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: you are from a shark attack. Geez, what makes me 198 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: feel a bit better about going to the beach. And 199 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: there's actually a new term for it, sadly, it's called 200 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: a kilfee. So that's when you die from a shelfie. 201 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: So is that what your family hashtag's a photo And 202 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: there are some places where people are actually having to 203 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: put up signs declaring it's a no selfie zone. So, 204 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: for instance, there's high risk areas such as bodies of water, 205 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: mountain peaks, and tall buildings. So I mean, how dumbed 206 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: do you have to get? And at the same time, 207 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: if you're so dumb that you're going to take risks 208 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: like that in these places, you're not smart enough to 209 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: consider insurance of these things, are you. It actually doesn't 210 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: surprise me though, because I was in Europe earlier this year, 211 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: and people are people don't even care what anyone around 212 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: them is thinking. They're just doing the most ridiculous things 213 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: is to get that snap. So we'll move on to 214 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: the next headline. I was so excited about this. It's 215 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: from news dot com. It reads confirmed Big Brother will 216 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: return in twenty twenty. This has been all over my 217 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: news feed. Well, I thought it was just a false 218 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: rumor to begin with. I was like, oh, whatever, because 219 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: I feel like they've run articles like this before. But 220 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Channel seven has been named as the new home of 221 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: Big Brother, and I read that they're not going to 222 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: be doing it at dream World. I mean, we've all 223 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: seen Sky Wheatley's video of the Big Brother has absolutely true, 224 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: so it's not surprising. But they're trying. They're going to 225 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: save money having the house in this TV studio, which 226 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: would just be so odd. Yes, we have had a 227 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: few little snippets revealed to us. It will be held 228 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: in a studio. The number two fact that we have 229 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: is the traditional voting system where the public has its say, 230 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: has been replaced by a Survivor style. Is that just 231 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: a rumor? Though, no, it's true. One of the producers 232 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: has revealed that to College IPO. I think that's shit. 233 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean, wait, wait, is that just for nomination though no, 234 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: it's no. I reckon, that's for the you know when 235 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: they used to do the secret nominations and no one 236 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: would know. I bet they're making them vote in front 237 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: of each other, So then there's all this controversy in 238 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: the house because they The thing is, you wouldn't want 239 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: to have them voting each other out Survivor style because 240 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: then the favorites or you know, the popular people will 241 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: go and the house will just be boring. Well, I 242 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: don't know, because the producer said that they're ruling out 243 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: just the popularity contest and they want to see it 244 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: as more of a psychological game. So I suppose it 245 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: will all be confirmed for us soon enough. There is 246 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: no news yet on who the host is going to be, though, 247 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: please bring back Gretel Colleen Oh, my number one vote 248 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: is with her. But there have been some interesting old 249 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: housemates who have put their hand up for it, none 250 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: other than Chrissy Swan, who I actually think she should 251 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: be good. She'd be a great host. She's very motherly, 252 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: very warm. And the other one is Sky Wheatley, who's 253 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: put her hand up. She would be perhaps fabulous on 254 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the up Late program. That's a good idea. I do 255 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: love her, so I think she would be hilarious on there, 256 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, replaced hot Dogs with Sky Wheeley, I think well. 257 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: On Friday, applications for the show opened, and since then 258 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: it has been I didn't even know you could trend 259 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: on Google. The application process has been trending on Google, 260 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: according to this article, and they have included some of 261 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: the questions in their few to answer if you want 262 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: to be a potential house mate, And to me, it 263 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: just became apparent through the questions that clearly they're probably 264 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: scouting people out in the same Love Ireland. What are 265 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: they asking, Oh, tell us something about you that friends 266 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't know. If you could, they choose one song to 267 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: play every time you walked in a room for the 268 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: rest of your life, what would it be? What's been 269 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: with those questions? I don't believe that they're going to oh, yeah, 270 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: like this person's question, or they're going to be judging 271 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: are photos follow accounts? But how many questions? It seems 272 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: like if they put a lot of effort into those 273 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: kind of questions, there's seven questions. Oh okay, well it's 274 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: just for the one and your favorite song is one 275 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: of them? Yes, I mean I like this one. Do 276 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: you have enemies? Who? And why? What sort of people 277 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't you like in a house? So it sounds like 278 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: they're going to try and bring somebody's enemy in. That 279 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: would be quite good. But now that would be so good. 280 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: As soon as I heard about Big Brother returning, I 281 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: was so excited, But it also made me think, was 282 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: the whole abandoned burning down house? Was that a big 283 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: publicity stunt to gauge the public's care for Big Brother? Possibly? 284 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's been derelict for a few years. 285 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't burnt down either. It was just burnt down, 286 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, it got burnt down as well. We 287 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: first had the story it was trash, and then two 288 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: weeks later vandals came in and burnt down. There were 289 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: so many stories circulating. And then also it's very interesting 290 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: the placing of Gretel Colleen's appearance on Masting and suddenly 291 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: bringing her back into that. That was nine seven. Though. Thing 292 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: about Big Brother is it has the potential to rate 293 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: very well if it's done correctly. And I think the 294 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: issue with the last season of Big Brother we saw 295 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: was there wasn't enough airtime to get to know the housemates. 296 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: And I think season one of Big Brother was arguably 297 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: the best season. You actually felt like you knew every 298 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: housemate because you had up late to watch, you had 299 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Uncut to watch, and do you know what, Uncut's probably 300 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: so tame now compared to the television we see in 301 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So I hope that does return Reggie, who 302 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: was one of the winners of Big Brothers. She's actually 303 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: called for that to be an all star series similar 304 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: to Survive. It wouldn't that be great? Well? I did 305 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: think that because the All Star Survivor rated unbelievably well. 306 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I hope we see a different crowd of people from 307 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Love Ireland. I hope we see some people that are 308 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: interesting and actually have great stories to tell. That's what 309 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: made the first series so strong. Well, the people of 310 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: Love Island. You could just go and point, may not 311 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: point on the stre but bloody point on Instagram and 312 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: pick any of those people up. And let's make it 313 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: about the personalities. Let's not make it about the game. 314 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: I know, obviously they're referring they want a psychological game, 315 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: but that is about personality. Let's not have it about 316 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: you know. You know the last season they ruined it 317 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: with that fucking Friday Night game. I hated that people 318 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: she loved the Friday Night I hate it. I think 319 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: it's more the younger kids that love it. They just 320 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: need to make it about them having great chats that 321 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: are interesting. None of this game bullshit. But anyway, I'm 322 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: so excited for it. I'm counting down the days till 323 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: it starts. The last headline is Travis Scott's alleged secret 324 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: GF spilled a bunch of tea and it's scolding that's 325 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: trim pedestrian. So Kylie Jenner has confirmed on Twitter that 326 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: the rumors are in fact true and she has split 327 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: from her baby daddy, Travis Scott. And I wasn't surprised 328 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: love's dead. I thought it was so random that she 329 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: was dating him. Yes, it's sad that they've got a child, 330 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: but wasn't more love dead when she broke up with 331 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Tiger All they did was meet at Coachella, and then 332 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: two months later she fell pregnant and she was somewhat 333 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: stuck with him. I find it odd, though, when people 334 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: say love is dead as well, referring to celebrities at 335 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: break up every five minutes. Maybe love is dead when 336 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: your parents break up after forty years of marriage, but 337 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: not Kylie Jenner breaking up with Travis Scott. Not a 338 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: twenty one year old who's had a baby with someone 339 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: very long, and it's clear that things are probably on 340 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: the rocks. I mean, we all saw Jim of that interview. 341 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I think it was with Vogue magazine that they did 342 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: and where they were showing how well they knew each other, 343 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: and like the only thing I took from that was 344 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: that Travis Scott likes to eat peanut butter and jelly 345 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: sandwiches and Kylie Jenner knows how to make them pretty 346 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: well for absolutely riveting stuff, isn't it well. Rumors are 347 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: circulating though, that the breakup was prompted by the rapper 348 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: sliding into other girls dms. So god, I was worried 349 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: what you're going to say there? The best thing is 350 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: that now these receipts, once shared by the women in question, 351 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: have been brought to light and the evidence is rather damning. 352 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: So a twenty seven year old model name I can't 353 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: pronounce her name, I'm sorry, it's Rogine Carr. So she's 354 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: been linked the singer for some time now, and the 355 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: model took to Instagram back in March claiming she'd been 356 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: dating Travis for nearly six years and that she is 357 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: his main chick and that Kylie is his side chick. 358 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: So she has now unfortunately switched her profile to private. 359 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: But luckily there were lots of people who screenshot the 360 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: receipts that she's been putting down. So one of the 361 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: post shows Travis Scott's very distinctive sports shoe in her bedroom. 362 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: When you said receipts, I thought you meant for you know, 363 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: dinners or stuff. Get the lingo receipts of everyone. I'm 364 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: trying to stay cool, Amy so relevant in your thirties, 365 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: that's right. She also claims that Kylie often blocks her 366 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: then unblocks her to keep tabs on her. She was 367 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: so posted a rather sultry snap of her in bed 368 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: with the caption tell your BD, I said thanks, and 369 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: do you know what b D stands for? Uh? Bad 370 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: baby daddy, Baby daddy? I said thanks, And then other 371 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: photos show that she and Travis were allegedly at the 372 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: same location at the same time on seven occasions, including 373 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: a game, arcade and a snow trip, so it was 374 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: rather damning evidence. Tutor, I love that Kylie has come 375 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: back swinging with revenge. She has played this so well. 376 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: She has been in the press for apparently meeting up 377 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: with her ex Tiger. Oh yeah, so she dropped her 378 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: friends off, apparently outside a recording studio that he was at, 379 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: But she has hit back, saying the internet makes everything 380 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: one hundred times more dramatic than what it really is. 381 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: There was no two am date with Tiger. You see 382 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: me drop two of my friends off at a studio 383 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: that he happened to be at. Travis and I are 384 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: on great terms, and our main focus right now is Stormy. 385 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Our friendship and our daughter is our priority. Do you 386 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: know what? Kylie Jenner does get slagged off a lot, 387 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: And I know we were having a little bit of 388 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: a chuckle about, you know, love being dead and whatnot 389 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: with Kylie Jenner, But I actually have seen a very 390 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: mature side to Kylie on some of the recent recent 391 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: episodes of Keeping Up with the Kardashians, And that is 392 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: quite a mature statement to put out. I don't agree 393 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: with you there. I think she is trying to stir 394 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: up a lot of this publicity by purposely being seen 395 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: with Tiger. I don't know if that makes her immature, 396 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: makes immature I will do the same thing. I just 397 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: think it's I just think that she is trying to 398 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: get that revenge. She is trying to get her name 399 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: out there. You would be so pissed off to find 400 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: out this guy had been cheating on you for all 401 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: that time. So I say good on her. Continue the games. 402 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: This week, Instagram has controversially scraped the following tab. The 403 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: infamous feature, which allows users to see what their friends like, 404 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: comment on, and follow, has been a much loved stalking 405 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: tool for many especially Sophie. Originally desired to help users 406 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: discover new accounts, it quickly turned into a tool to 407 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: keep an eye on your partner, x'es and even friends. 408 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: This one tab has single handedly helped users catch out 409 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: cheating partners and even destroyed friendships with Sophie. I know 410 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: you're pretty passionate about this. Why are you upset about it? 411 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: First it was likes, Now it's this following tab. For me, 412 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: it's very reminiscent of when Snapchat got rid of the 413 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: best Friends. I don't understand why all these social media 414 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: networks are putting an end to this voyeuristic element that 415 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: makes the platform so much fun. Maybe a bunch of 416 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: all the guys that just cheat on their girlfriends and 417 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, go and like girls photos. Maybe they've all 418 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: got together and now they're working at Instagram or probably well. 419 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: As I've mentioned on this podcast many times before, the 420 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: thing that I love most about social media is that 421 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: it allows you to use your detective skills for good. 422 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's good. I don't know 423 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: if it's always good. Well, Instagram claims that they're getting 424 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: rid of this tool because not many people were aware 425 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: of it. I call bullshit. I think if you ask 426 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: any girl in their teens to twenties, even early thirties, 427 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: like myself, they would know exactly what this tool is. 428 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: So if we should replay the conversation I had when 429 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: you suggested this topic, I was like, what what? Tap? Yes, well, 430 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: maybe you're too old now to realize why you're old. 431 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: I just don't. I of course I've used social media 432 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: to stalk people, not like not like call the police 433 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: kind of stalks, you know, just social brows and stalk. 434 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I feel like the tools just 435 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: hard to even even stalk people on because you got 436 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: to be a real You've got to be a real 437 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: good stalk or to make the most of it, because 438 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: you have to really commit to going through your whole 439 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: Like it depends how many people you follow, but if 440 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: you're following a lot of people, that little feed fills 441 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: up quickly. But do you know what, then, isn't it 442 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: just making it You've got to be an even better 443 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: stalker to use Instagram? I don't want the challenge these days. Yeah, 444 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it reveals that much, Wow, 445 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: someone's liked someone's photo. I think it does reveal a lot. 446 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: The tool has kept people accountable for a very long time. 447 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: There are numerous stories of people's illicit or private activities 448 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: being outed because of what they were liking and following 449 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: on Instagram. So even a lot of gossip reporters have 450 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: got quite big scoops from seeing whose celebrities are following 451 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: 'n following liking. Do you remember when Snapchat brought in 452 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: that feature where people appeared on their map like the 453 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: little bit moji. I love that, and you know you 454 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: could turn your bit moji onto certain you still haven't it? No, 455 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying I don't think people 456 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: use it as much. But when it was brought in, 457 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, and that was the 458 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: biggest stalk at all because I remember thinking, why would 459 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: anyone turn their you know, GPS on? But I remember 460 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: we've all got each other still on it, and it's 461 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's funny when you arrive at someone's 462 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: house and you see everyone's bit It's really cute. But 463 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I remember hearing stories about 464 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: people being caught out because they forgot that their GPS 465 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: was still on Snapchat and they'd go and cheat on 466 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: their partner and people would see their two bit mojis 467 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: on the map. I remember when Facebook would show who 468 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: people had become friends with, and then there was a 469 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: big trend a few years ago where guys would all 470 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: comment under the friendships, wasn't it? It would always be, 471 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: but for some reason, the sneaky bastards at Facebook, they 472 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't send it to the girl. My boyfriend Brandon, apparently 473 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: when I became friends with him on Facebook, he got 474 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: all these comments about it, which I never saw. They 475 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: need to bring these things but keep it interesting. Why 476 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: why are we all getting off Facebook because it's not 477 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: in I was going to say, I mean, you know, 478 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook pretend to care about people's mental health 479 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: by you know, removing the likes. What about the mental 480 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: health of these women who are out there wanted to 481 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: stalk their exes, or they want to stalk their ex 482 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: best friends, or want to catch out, you know, see 483 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: if their partner's doing anything wrong. What about their mental health. 484 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: It was a very troubling time for me when they 485 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: moved Snapchat best friends. I was going through a very 486 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: crushing breakup and I just wanted to keep tracks on 487 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: who were the best friends I think that was a 488 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: healthy decision for Snapchat for you to remove that feature. Well, 489 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: so they've removed it, is is it just gone or 490 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: is there something replacing it? Well, they're trying to redirect 491 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: users to the explore tab and say that it's in 492 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: place to find people, because that's apparently what the follow 493 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Let me let me get this straight. Now, you can 494 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: probably pay to be in the explore. All they want 495 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: is our money. Everything is just money to be now 496 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: if you go on, so you click the love heart 497 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: to go and find it for your information name because 498 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: you don't know, so you click the little love high 499 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: I know, but you said it was the following tab 500 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I just click around. Well, instead 501 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: you'll be directed just to see your own activity, because 502 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: that's really interesting, my own act. You're going to see 503 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: my own activity, okay? Is that in case you accidentally 504 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: like something? You probably maybe it will help. Our mom 505 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: needs that tab amount of time she's gone around and 506 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: not realizing the double tap means like, it doesn't mean zoom. 507 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: Mother's listening up there. When you're double tap on Instagram, 508 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: it does not zoom. In an emotional open letter released 509 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: to the public, Prince Harry has accused the British Press 510 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: of launching a ruthless campaign against his wife, Meghan Markle. 511 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: In the letter, Harry said he feared history would repeat itself, 512 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: likening the press treatment of Megan to that of his 513 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: late mother, Princess Diana, The People's Princess, tragically died when 514 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: the car she was traveling and crashed in a Paris 515 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: tunnel while trying to escape swarms of paparazzi. In a 516 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: bid to stop the invasive treatment, Prince Harry is suing 517 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: the owners of the Sun and The Mirror, claiming his 518 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: voicemail messages were illegally accessed. Well, Megan is suing The 519 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: Mail on Sunday for publishing a private letter to her 520 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: estranged father, Sophie. What did you make of it all? Well? 521 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: The letter gave me shivers for so many different reasons. 522 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: Is sometimes is easy to forget that the Royal family 523 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: are actually real people. This is a young couple at 524 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, who's just gotten married, had 525 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: a baby, and they faced criticism at every point. For me, 526 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: it was an incredibly well articulated and powerful letter from 527 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: Prince Harry. The role is always forced to put on 528 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: this facade. But what I love about the letter is 529 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: it showed this human element to him that I feel 530 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: like we don't really see from the royal family. It's 531 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: the real words of a husband who's watched his wife 532 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: suffer and he's finally just had enough of it and 533 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: isn't going to stand for it anymore. The parts about 534 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Princess Diana really touched me as well, What did you 535 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: make of them? Well, I'm a big fan of Princess 536 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: Diana and all the amazing things she did over her life, 537 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: and it did bring a shiver to my spine when 538 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: I read that. It was very sad. But I mean, 539 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: I think people have been drawing parallels to the press 540 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: coverage of Megan Markle to Princess Diana, and I think 541 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: it's great that Harry's called it out, because somebody needs 542 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: to call out before things get worse. We saw the 543 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: sixty minute story a few weeks ago that we spoke 544 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: about in an episode and just how awful that was. 545 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes the media forgets that they're real 546 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: people behind these headlines, and that's the thing that really 547 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: annoys me about the media. I mean, I used to 548 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: work as an online content producer, and the name of 549 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: the game was getting people to click on your stories. 550 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: That's it. So if you have a scandalous headline, of 551 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: course people are going to click on the story. And 552 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what people are doing. They're just 553 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: trying to make money and forgetting that there are people 554 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: behind it all. So I think the reason that this 555 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: letter touched so many people is that not only did 556 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: they sympathize with Harry and see this as quite an 557 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: extreme example, but it is something that thousands of other 558 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: people do go through. It's this negative press coverage. In 559 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, the Leveson Inquiry, sparked by the phone hacking scandal, 560 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: was meant to be a turning point in the ethics 561 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: and culture of the British press, but it's increasingly feels 562 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: as though nothing has changed. Only last month, a former 563 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: Welsh rugby player, Gareth Thompson, was forced to reveal he 564 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: had HIV after a newspaper threatened to publish it. So 565 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: these stunts are nothing more than bullying as a form 566 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: of journalism and a tactic not just save for the 567 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: rich and famous. How many people do we see on 568 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: TV where a story has been spun on them. There 569 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: are so many voiceless people who are being affected by 570 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: the media in this way as well, and just don't 571 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: have the means to be able to stick up for 572 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: themselves all the platform. Sophie and I have both worked 573 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: in the media, and it's only when you step outside 574 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: of it and you realize that sometimes the practices that 575 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: go on there maybe aren't the best and aren't the healthiest. 576 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: It's bad enough when it's a celebrity. Sometimes the argument 577 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: is that celebrities put themselves in the spotlight, so they 578 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: need to be able to deal with the media backlash 579 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But when we were working as 580 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: news reporters, you'd go out and door knock a family 581 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: who they've just lost their child, and your chief of 582 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: staff wants them talking. They don't care that they've just 583 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: lost their family. They want them on the start of 584 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: the news talking about their loved one because that makes 585 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: good TV. The worst thing as well, that you're taught 586 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: as a young reporter is that tears are everything. So 587 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: I remember I was sent out to a story around 588 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: Christmas time and it was about a dog shelter that 589 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: had burnt down and all of the dogs sadly had 590 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: passed away inside, and we staked out their house all day. 591 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: We were told we'll come out at three pm. So 592 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: that's a very tight deadline for news as well, and 593 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: we were quite far away, so we're told we'll come 594 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: out at three pm. So the camera guy and I 595 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: always sat around watching documentaries all day. It was actually 596 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: quite a fun day anyway. The woman came out and 597 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: burst into tears in front of us, crying about the 598 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: loss of these dogs. It was top of the bulletin. 599 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I was so excited when I got back, but it's 600 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: only when it hits you later that wow, that was 601 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: actually a very emotional moment that perhaps she would have been. 602 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: They're embarrassed about it afterwards. When I was working at 603 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: a particular in a particular newsroom and I got sent 604 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: out to do what they call is a pickup interview, 605 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: So that's an interview if it's not actually your story, 606 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: but it's for another journalist. And I remember taking this 607 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: phone call and I'd only been working at this particular 608 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: place for a few weeks and just recently finished my 609 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: journalism degree. And she said to me, right, so you're 610 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: doing this interview, and I need tears. I need you 611 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: to make this woman cry. So think about the way 612 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: you're going to ask the question. I was like, oh 613 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: my god, I've got to make this person cry. In society, 614 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: you never want to make someone cry, do you. So 615 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: the prospect of that was like, oh gosh. And then 616 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, well they're expecting tears. What if I 617 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: don't get her to cry? So of course I had 618 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: to change these questions around to be quite a motive. 619 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: And see, this is how weird it is. Because they'd 620 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: asked me to do it. She actually did cry, and 621 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: I felt this thing and I was like, oh, I've succeeded. 622 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: And it's this sick cycle, isn't it, where you're being 623 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: rewarded for behavior that wouldn't normally be acceptable in society. 624 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: That being said, though, there is a very distinct line 625 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: between making someone cry and hacking into someone's phone calls, 626 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: oh for sure messages. Both of us have worked at 627 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: numerous news stations. Some of the practices are different to others, 628 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: but there were ones where on the first day you 629 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: had a hitten camera in your bag, So that was 630 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: something quite different from some of the news practices we've 631 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: been exposed to before. Well, I remember a journalist before 632 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: I started this particular workplace, telling me that you should 633 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: write an open letter to yourself before you start there, 634 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: because you don't want to cross the line and do 635 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: anything that you don't feel comfortable doing. You want to 636 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: stick to your morals and all of that. So day one, Rosa, 637 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: and as you said, I was given a bag that 638 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: had a hole in it with a camera poking out 639 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: of it, and I had to go down to a 640 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: particular shopping mall and get some vision of some people 641 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: handing out brochures. And I was like, oh my god, 642 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm like a spilo, what's going on. It was actually 643 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: quite exciting, to be fair, it was and spying on 644 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: a particular person. It was a bigger organization, so I 645 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: felt okay about it, but it just blew my mind 646 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: that these are some of the practices that go on 647 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: in the media, and you're just being said. With media law, 648 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: you are allowed to film people in a public place, 649 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: so what you were doing was in fact legal, maybe 650 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: not entirely ethical. One of my favorite pieces of equipment 651 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: at this particular work was they had all these hidden cameras, 652 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: So there was a hidden camera that it looked like 653 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a Nokia phone and it didn't have 654 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: a camera on the back, but actually had a camera, 655 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: you know in the bit like you'd put your headphone 656 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: in at the top of it. Yeah, so you'd place 657 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: it in front of you and no one would not, like, say, 658 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: you're having a coffee meeting, it would record what the 659 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: person was saying. And I was thinking, why do they 660 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: even event these things other than for television programs like 661 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: the one I was working on. Well, as journalist, it 662 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: is part of your job to get that story, but 663 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: you do still have to have that ethical point where 664 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: you know how far to go. And in some situations, 665 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: like we're seeing with the British press, people are just 666 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: going way too far. I mean, the Royal family puts 667 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: their life on show. There's no need to be going 668 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: through their private phone calls and harassing Meghan to the 669 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: level they are. Prince Harry also came out a few 670 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: years ago and criticized the press for their racial undertones 671 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of the reporting about Meghan. So I 672 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: feel like this is just the straw that broke the 673 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: camel's back. Really, she's been harassed for so long by 674 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: the press, and particularly with the way that his mother's 675 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: been treated. I mean, Harry was twelve years old when 676 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: she died. This would have been something that's haunted him 677 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: and stuck with him, and he must be terrifying to 678 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: see a similar thing happening to his wife. Well it's 679 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: not just Harry as well. Remember Prince William hit out 680 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: at the press after they took those topless photos of 681 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: Kate Middleton on a holiday. I mean, how low can 682 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: you get? Who prints this kind of stuff. It's great 683 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: to see the royals actually having a platform to voice 684 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: their opinion, though, because I feel like they're silent so 685 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: often and we only really see visuals of them and 686 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: don't really hear their personality. But Prince Harry really impressed 687 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: me cross so well, yeah, I love Prince Harry. I 688 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say for us as the public, sometimes we think, oh, 689 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do, but really, I know this 690 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: sounds simple, but we should stop buying these magazines that 691 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: are printing these bullshit articles. Every time I go to 692 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: the shops there's still pictures of Princess Diana or her 693 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: secret letters or she's been dead for the past over 694 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: twenty years. Can't we just let her rest in peace 695 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: and now we're attacking her sons and their wives. I mean, I, 696 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: for one, I'm not buying any of those rags that 697 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: write about that crap. But we should make a conscious 698 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: effort as well not to even click on the articles, 699 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: because that's why they keep posting them. They're getting clicks. 700 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: I think that's probably all we have time for. Thank 701 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us for today's episode. And 702 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: if you did like the show, we'd love if you 703 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: could go online and give us a rating on Apple 704 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: or Spotify, preferably five out of five. That would be amazing. 705 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: And if you do want to continue the conversation, join 706 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Outspoken Underscore the Underscore Podcast. 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And make sure you 716 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: keep an eye out because we are speaking to the 717 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: delightful Sam Magnan this week, and that episode with him 718 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: will be dropping on Thursday, so there's lots of things 719 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: to look out for.