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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: And we've got independent Kezy Apuric, good morning to.

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Speaker 3: You, morning, Katy, morning rural people.

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Speaker 1: Well, and from the ALP we've got Chancey pay good

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Speaker 1: morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Katie. In a shout out to everyone tuned in.

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Speaker 5: Oh lovely to have you in the studio. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, they can listen on the iHeartRadio app so

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Speaker 1: quite a few people contact us from Alice Springs. I

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Speaker 1: know they'll be listening this morning. We will talk about

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Speaker 1: some of the issues being experienced in Alis a little

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Speaker 1: bit later, but let's get into it. There is so

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Speaker 1: of course, Natasha Files and all then territories newest chief minister.

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Speaker 1: She said that no deals were made to get the

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Speaker 1: say that the right were ropeable after a number of

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Speaker 5: Rivaball were the deals done?

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Speaker 4: You have to be some deals done there. This is

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Speaker 4: a great, great way to start start the week. Natasha

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Speaker 4: files As the new Chief Minister. Fantastic chief minister, one

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Speaker 4: I think she's done a fantastic week first week in Parliament,

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Speaker 4: we'll begin to see Natasha putting her stamp on.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because a lot of people were going, well, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: People like towards the end of last week, you know,

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Speaker 1: Markesier called it, I'm so the way. We're like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that it could go the other way.

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Speaker 4: So if you're saying if I want to place a bet,

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Speaker 4: I need to check with you. You're the wealth of knowledge.

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Speaker 3: Let me see it on the record. And people have

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Speaker 4: Betting on for Saturdays. Oh, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: Talk more about the cosier. One thing we're all sort

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Speaker 4: Look at this stage, we'll work through and look at

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Speaker 2: It's just a shame that this happened when we're talking

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Speaker 1: Turn everyone's microphones off for a second and remind you

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Speaker 3: There might have been lots of reshuffles within this CLP,

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about this minister.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this ministerial reshuffle though that we are anticipating.

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Speaker 5: I think the question on a lot of people's lips.

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Speaker 4: Kit you're ruling out. You know, member, he's.

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Speaker 3: Too busy shaking, he's too busy cuddling babies and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Really, the question the question we should ask Chance is

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Speaker 2: To come into the pressures on the pressure you what

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Speaker 4: Territory and the party shadow well, Katie.

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Speaker 3: The other thing too is that of those four people

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Speaker 1: They're all very good questions.

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Speaker 4: Chaos at all. Look, I think, just to be really clear,

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Speaker 4: want to acknowledge that Nicole Maison has done a fantastic

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Speaker 4: So I'm really comfortable with whoever comes out as the

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Speaker 2: Member for Blaine is going to bring him back under

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Speaker 5: They can.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can. Honestly, I have been told

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Speaker 5: I did hear him.

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Speaker 1: I even heard him say though during Parliament this week

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Speaker 5: I don't know what had.

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Speaker 1: some will argue that Nicole Madison's done a great job

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Speaker 5: There needs to be a bit of a change somebody

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Speaker 4: I say is we will, we will work through and

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Speaker 4: I mean Kesier. I know you you say that you're

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Speaker 4: pretty good at her calling things. What are you ready?

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Speaker 3: I think I think you'd be pretty good at most portfolios.

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Speaker 3: So I think tourism is a good fit. And I

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Speaker 3: It's also labor in WA, so he's still got He's

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Speaker 4: The best way is to get vaccinated. We're proudly this

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Speaker 3: I understand. The communities wherever they are, will still have

441
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Speaker 3: the option under territory legislation to be a dry community,

442
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Speaker 3: and that's what I call it, a dry community, and

443
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Speaker 3: that's been around for yoks. We still also have various

444
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Speaker 3: communities and townships having licensed clubs whatever you call it,

445
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Speaker 3: and they've got their various levels of consumption or the

446
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Speaker 3: kind of beer you sell or whatever you know. So

447
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Speaker 3: I think Peppinadi is one of those places that's got that.

448
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Speaker 3: And I think the tee Wee's have got one calcarini,

449
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Speaker 3: you know. So they already have a licensed premises and

450
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Speaker 3: they're managing their people and the substance and whatever. Now

451
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Speaker 3: if it means that people then can buy their alcohol

452
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Speaker 3: in town and go back to their community, I don't

453
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Speaker 3: know that's correct. But there is still discrimination, like a

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Speaker 3: referenced in Parliament of Fellow. I know a friend in

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Speaker 3: who in Baranga. Now he can't buy alcohol in Catherine

456
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Speaker 3: and take it home to Baranga because he's black and

457
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Speaker 3: he can't do this, and he can't do that, and

458
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Speaker 3: if he does get caught doing it, he'll get put

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Speaker 3: on the BDR. So we won't be able to get

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Speaker 3: any takeaway alcohol. He's a normal man, he's got family,

461
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Speaker 3: he pays taxes, he's fully gainfully employed, not at Barunga.

462
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Speaker 3: But he's a five fox kind of worker. Now why

463
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Speaker 3: is he a normal Territorian not being able to go

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Speaker 3: to a bottle shop and buy booze the same as

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the answer is to that.

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Speaker 3: I accept and knowledge and we all do the evils

468
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Speaker 3: and the demons in alcohol, but come on, we're not special.

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Speaker 3: This is across our country, in factors across the world.

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Speaker 3: I get it that it's rampant in a lot of

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Speaker 3: our Aboriginal communities and it creates the social upheaval and disagres.

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Speaker 3: Prohibition doesn't work. I would like to have great respect

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Speaker 3: for the communities themselves in the associations or counsels or shows,

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Speaker 3: to let them manage.

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Speaker 1: Their in some situations where some people are sort of

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Speaker 1: in like where maybe some of the women in the

477
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Speaker 1: communities don't want alcohol, but they're you know that they're there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the right word is bulldozed over

479
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Speaker 1: by the blokes and some of the leaders and it

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Speaker 1: goes ahead or say that.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that, And I think, you know, it

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Speaker 4: should be no different to.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there should be the support services there if there

484
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Speaker 3: is a problem or whatever, you know whatever, maybe you know,

485
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Speaker 3: the healthcare, the age care, you know, making sure children

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Speaker 3: get the right nutrition, making sure they go to school,

487
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Speaker 3: like any society like even have you do you know,

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Speaker 3: Be's Creek got to make sure kids go to school.

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Speaker 3: So this is the feedback I get from people. I accept,

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Speaker 3: and I know John Patterson. I know he does an

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Speaker 3: exceptional job and he really does believe in what he

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Speaker 3: wants to do and help people.

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Speaker 5: It's not just him though, you know police Association. It's

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Speaker 5: also consultation.

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Speaker 4: This is out of the blue.

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Speaker 2: Being in place, and it's going to happen in thirty

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Speaker 2: June or sixteen July for ten years. So really these

498
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Speaker 2: were here and I see a peace, support local decision making.

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Speaker 2: We support completely what Genese is saying and keeps is

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Speaker 2: saying about that. But the problem here is the lack

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Speaker 2: of consultation because if these become wet communities, when you

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Speaker 2: spoke about the health services and the police. They need

503
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Speaker 2: to be ready for that because there are going to

504
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Speaker 2: be some issues in relation to people drinking and maybe

505
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Speaker 2: there's going to be some more violence or the people's

506
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Speaker 2: need some more some more help in relation to the

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Speaker 2: social side of it, and that hasn't been put in place,

508
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Speaker 2: and it could have been put in place, but it

509
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Speaker 2: hasn't because this government through because they nothing at all

510
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Speaker 2: and they did nothing. But this is like, this is

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Speaker 2: in t legislation and this Labor government could have gone

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Speaker 2: to the feats and negotiated. So they we're going to happen.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 4: That's the issue here. They this is we have introduced

515
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Speaker 4: territory legislation in the Amendment Liquor Amendment built because the

516
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Speaker 4: Commonwealth legislation, that is the stronger futures legislation is expiring

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Speaker 4: on the sixteenth of July and they have had nine

518
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Speaker 4: years to work on a plan to transition and they

519
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Speaker 4: have failed to do so they're walking away for the

520
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Speaker 4: eleventh hour. It's Commonwealth if thee Yeah, but if you

521
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Speaker 4: guys are so worried about it, you can get on

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Speaker 4: the phone right now, ring Scott Morrison and ken Wright

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Speaker 4: and ask them to ex plans. It's commonwealth. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: put it this way, Katie. I am an Aboriginal person.

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Speaker 4: My family are original. They live in remote communities. We

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Speaker 4: have to get to a point where people in remote

527
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Speaker 4: communities are able to make decisions about their lives, for

528
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Speaker 4: their lives and not have big brothers standing over them.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I love these peaks. They do

530
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Speaker 4: a great job. They advocate hard, but it's not the

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Speaker 4: role of peaks to determine the rights of remote people.

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Speaker 4: And I look at it like this, This is about

533
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Speaker 4: equality and equity. Correct everyone here, like Katie, I like

534
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Speaker 4: a drink. I like to go home and crack a can,

535
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Speaker 4: or I'm sure keep a deal, or you do as well.

536
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Speaker 4: Why someone, why should a remote person who works hard

537
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Speaker 4: for a counsel or the school or the just normal

538
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Speaker 4: territory to normal to try and not be awarded that

539
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Speaker 4: same opportunity. Now, there are provisions that like there are

540
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Speaker 4: in our urban centers. If someone wants a dry house

541
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Speaker 4: under this new legislation, they can apply through housing to

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Speaker 4: have their house marked as a dry premises. And we know, look, absolutely,

543
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Speaker 4: we are under no illusion that we will be working

544
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Speaker 4: as we reach that deadline of having manning up our services,

545
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Speaker 4: making sure that that footprint is covered to get out

546
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Speaker 4: there and do it. But I mean one thing is

547
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Speaker 4: really important. Anyone who believes in this utopian view of

548
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Speaker 4: the world that alcohol is not already in these areas

549
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Speaker 4: is gammon, right, So they are gammon because alcohol is

550
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Speaker 4: there already. People are drinking already. And what we know

551
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Speaker 4: is is when you do it this way, Katie. I

552
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Speaker 4: mean you see on Facebook now anyone looking for PS

553
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Speaker 4: or got PS. Now, I thought that was a PlayStation,

554
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Speaker 4: but it's not. It's private sale and can just find

555
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Speaker 4: it online. It's online that they're doing it because of

556
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Speaker 4: the the way in which people are penalized and not

557
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Speaker 4: able to buy grog to take back and drink in

558
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Speaker 4: that friend of Baranga. Yeah exactly, Keisi, You're on the money.

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Speaker 2: But this is going to live with their alcohol into

560
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Speaker 2: those communities, there's no doubt about. And these communities have

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Speaker 2: been dry for ten or fifteen years. But where the

562
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Speaker 2: living with alcohol programs in those communities which have been

563
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Speaker 2: dry for a long long time. When we all know

564
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Speaker 2: right across the media in Darwin, there's all sorts of

565
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Speaker 2: living with alcohol and be careful about it. That program

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Speaker 2: and those messages are sent out through the media in

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Speaker 2: Darwen and the other regions. But then the community that

568
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Speaker 2: hasn't been dry for ten years, people haven't focused those

569
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Speaker 2: living with our whole programs in that community, and now

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Speaker 2: in one month's time there's going to be alcohol.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I agree fully with that, Jared,

572
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Speaker 3: because if the community has been dry for the last

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Speaker 3: ten years and just operating like any old little township,

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Speaker 3: why would alcohol suddenly go into that community Because the

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Speaker 3: people who are living in that community are living without alcohol, probably,

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Speaker 3: I would assume quite comfortably. And if there are some

577
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Speaker 3: people from that community who are in the main centers

578
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Speaker 3: like Analla Springs or a Tenancree and then want to

579
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Speaker 3: go home because they know they can drink at home, well,

580
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Speaker 3: then surely that means the community and the elders and

581
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Speaker 3: the mums and the dads or grandpas can then help

582
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Speaker 3: that person's they've got a problem with alcohol.

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Speaker 2: That's an idea.

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree, but I'm not sure that how we

585
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: important thing are these rivers that everyone's using to scare Manger.

586
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Speaker 4: They've already been running. They've been running for ten years

587
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Speaker 4: because people have been drinking already in these places, and

588
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Speaker 4: there have been forty alcohol management plans that have sat

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Speaker 4: on the Commonwealth's desk for nine years for these individual

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Speaker 4: communities to manage alcohol. Let's not deny that. But when

591
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Speaker 4: this expires on the sixteenth of July, and over one

592
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Speaker 4: hundred communities will revert back to alcohol restricted areas as

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Speaker 4: they were with legislation two thousand under anti legislation. So

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Speaker 4: a place like like whatever, or one of those places

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Speaker 4: they were already dry, they will simply just flip back

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Speaker 4: over to what they were before two thousand and.

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Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a very

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Speaker 1: short break. We are going to have to take a

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Speaker 1: quick break before we do. A couple of messages coming through.

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Speaker 1: I've got one here that says, Hi, Katie, I think

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Speaker 1: that's evil all for police and families, for Nicole Madison. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: and let me start that again, evil all of for

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Speaker 1: police and families, Nicole Madison, for Treasurer and tourism. Chancey

604
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Speaker 1: is doing a good job. Split the rest with the

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Speaker 1: other members based on their strengths and bring in Joel Bowden.

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Speaker 1: That one there from mal from the Springs. One here

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Speaker 1: that says, let's get Kesier back in the speaker's chair.

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Speaker 1: She's amazing, by the way, still not keasy as mummy.

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Speaker 5: We will take a very short break. You are listening

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Speaker 5: to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Week that was and in

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Speaker 1: the studio this morning Jared Maylee, Kezier Puric and Chancey Paig.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that there is always crime issues that

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Speaker 1: we speak about on this shows. It's well, you can't

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Speaker 1: get around it, unfortunately. And overnight a teenager is being

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Speaker 1: accused of going on a violent crime spree throughout Darwin.

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Speaker 1: According to police, a sixteen year old threatened staff at

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Speaker 1: a restaurant in the Annula shopping Center with a broken

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Speaker 1: glass bottle, demanding cash. After being refused, the alleged defender

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Speaker 1: traveled to the Marara Sports Stadium, where he assaulted a

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Speaker 1: person and damaged cars. He then reportedly moved on to

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Speaker 1: Hungry Jackson Casurina, allegedly attempting to forcibly steal a man's

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Speaker 1: car before slapping another customer and stealing his food. Police

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Speaker 1: say that they arrested that teenager and at Royal at

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Speaker 1: the Hospital in a drug affected state. So that is

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Speaker 1: one incident. Obviously that's happened to overnight. Your head down

627
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Speaker 1: to Alice Springs now, we know that throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: In a special meeting this week, the Alice Springs Council

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Speaker 1: declared the crime crisis in the town at an emergency

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Speaker 1: level and resolved to call on the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 5: Government for a response.

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Speaker 1: I spoke to Matt Patterson, the mayor, yesterday, expecting to

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Speaker 1: just speak about that meeting, and he then told me

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Speaker 1: that the aquatic center there and Alice Springs had stained

635
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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage after being

636
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Speaker 1: smashed up, cash registers thrown in the pool. As I

637
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Speaker 1: understand it, the windows smashed. She'd sent through some photos

638
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Speaker 1: that looked bloody terrible. We're expecting those crime statistics to

639
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Speaker 1: be released today at midday. I know that Channel nine

640
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Speaker 1: did have a bit of a preview of them, and

641
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Speaker 1: they're not looking good.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think we are in a really tough state around

644
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Speaker 1: the place at the moment when it comes to crime.

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Speaker 1: Like I say, it's undeniable, and gee, you know, I

646
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Speaker 1: feel for us up here in the top end, but

647
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Speaker 1: I really feel for the people of Alice at the

648
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Speaker 1: moment too. It sounds like they're at their wits end.

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Speaker 3: I wonder, I guess, is it the same group of

650
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Speaker 3: people young in between very young, or is it more

651
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Speaker 3: across the board chancey, Like, do the police know it's

652
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Speaker 3: a cohort of say ten families or twenty youth or whatever,

653
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Speaker 3: or is it just a bit of everything, you know,

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Speaker 3: adults and young people. And from what I read and

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Speaker 3: what I hear, it seems to be you know, the

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Speaker 3: wrecking of you know, glass in shops and restaurants, and

657
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Speaker 3: then obviously breaking to homes trying to steal other gog

658
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Speaker 3: or stuff they can sell. But it sounds like the

659
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Speaker 3: aquatic center. It's just gratuitous vandalism and violence, you know,

660
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Speaker 3: for no apparent reason, Like they haven't been offended or

661
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Speaker 3: heard or locked out of anywhere. They just want to

662
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Speaker 3: trash the joint. And were they affected by alcohol and drugs? Probably?

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Speaker 3: You know, are there enough resources like the police to

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Speaker 3: sort of catch them in the act and and then

665
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Speaker 3: to apprehend them. But as we know, when police do

666
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Speaker 3: do that and they go into the system, they get

667
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Speaker 3: chucked out on bail and then reoffend, you know. So

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Speaker 3: the one thing I agree i'llgree with well a few things,

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Speaker 3: but one of the things I do agree with the

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Speaker 3: COLP is to have changes to the Bail Act and

671
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Speaker 3: to bring youth justice back into the Correction.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to two things to try and fixate.

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Speaker 2: Is trying to make sure there's presumption against bail, so

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Speaker 2: if you do a crime or that the presumption is

675
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Speaker 2: against so you can still get bail, but you have

676
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Speaker 2: to the starting point is that you don't get bail.

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Speaker 2: So there may be circumstances off the offender or the

678
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Speaker 2: offense where you can get bail, but at the moment

679
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Speaker 2: something who is they get bail.

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Speaker 3: We want to change it.

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Speaker 2: And they're also trying to make sure that the correction

682
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Speaker 2: takes over looking after these killed because.

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Speaker 4: You're right at the revolving door they go in and

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Speaker 4: go out.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a story where one child was taken

686
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Speaker 2: home ten or twenty times tonight in relation to it,

687
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Speaker 2: and it's just something needs to happen that the COORP

688
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Speaker 2: have tried to do that the Labor government has voted

689
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Speaker 2: down our legislation and then nothing in place to fix it.

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Speaker 1: It's really really well, seriously, is the new Chief Minister

691
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Speaker 1: taking this. I mean, are you like she's meant to

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Speaker 1: be down in Alice Springs next week, isn't she? So

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Speaker 1: you're taking her down to Alice Springs. You know, for you,

694
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Speaker 1: someone who's grown up in Alice Springs, how badly do

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Speaker 1: you want this issue?

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Speaker 4: Soughted? Oh, look, I think that Natasha Files, our new

697
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Speaker 4: chief Minister, is absolutely going to be very well received

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Speaker 4: in Alice Springs. I mean, I've known Natasha for a

699
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Speaker 4: long time and she's made the commitment to get down there,

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Speaker 4: and she's going to be down there regularly. I know

701
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Speaker 4: she's talking with a number of people during the week.

702
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Speaker 4: Next week she's down there. And Natasha takes the approach

703
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Speaker 4: of you know, there's not one size fits all across

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Speaker 4: the territory, particularly the issues that are happening around and

705
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Speaker 4: in Alice Springs, the challenges that we have, you know,

706
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Speaker 4: knowing that we need to actually work with the local

707
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Speaker 4: community because they do have a number of ideas and suggestions.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Alice is a great town. I love

709
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Speaker 4: that town. That's my home and I'll always be there,

710
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Speaker 4: and lots of people in the community they want to help,

711
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Speaker 4: they want to be part of the solution and Natasha

712
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Speaker 4: is very much a person who wants to bring people

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Speaker 4: in and be involved. Now we know that they're not

714
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Speaker 4: going to be able to waive a magic one tomorrow,

715
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Speaker 4: but we know that just local solutions, tailoring those solutions

716
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Speaker 4: to each part of the community is going to be

717
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Speaker 4: really important. But make it be clear what has happened

718
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Speaker 4: at the Aquatic center's bloody awful. We have Strikeforce Viper,

719
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Speaker 4: we have the police. The police are as frustrated as

720
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Speaker 4: everyone in the community, and we need to continue to

721
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Speaker 4: work together and look at that. But also Tash going

722
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Speaker 4: down next week looking at it. Tash will act. That

723
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Speaker 4: is one thing I'll absolutely say about Natasha is she

724
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Speaker 4: has always give people the time of day and she

725
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Speaker 4: acts on the information that she's Is there a situation?

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Speaker 5: Was there a situation previously?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not expecting you to, you know, to have

728
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Speaker 1: a crack at the former chief minister, but was it

729
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Speaker 1: a bit of a nothing to see here?

730
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Speaker 3: Definitely I got the impression there's nothing to see in

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Speaker 3: the sand.

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Speaker 2: Because remember the CPS legislation also was that repeat offenders

733
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Speaker 2: do it because I think you're not going to get caught,

734
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Speaker 2: so you need to make sure that they get a

735
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Speaker 2: better chance to get in court. And part of our

736
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Speaker 2: legislation with the Labor government voted down that if you

737
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Speaker 2: do get bail, you had to ankle bracelet people.

738
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Speaker 4: Knew where they were. That stopped Michael getting court caked.

739
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Speaker 4: You need to make sure is that territory boy through

740
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Speaker 4: and true. And look, we have invested a significant amount

741
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Speaker 4: in this area and we will continue to invest in

742
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Speaker 4: these areas. And you know this issue is perpetuated by

743
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Speaker 4: number of other factors. Now I'm not saying that that

744
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: behavior is in any way, shape or form acceptable, but

745
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Speaker 4: when we look at what people are breaking in for

746
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Speaker 4: and why they're breaking in, there's a whole range of

747
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Speaker 4: things elements here. You know, there are elements of poverty,

748
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Speaker 4: there are elements of people with lack of engagement and services.

749
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Speaker 4: But you know, I mean you only have to look

750
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Speaker 4: at as well getting people to now start to look

751
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: at TikTok and those types of things, because you see

752
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Speaker 4: young kids all well getting a kick off each other and.

753
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Speaker 1: In wa So what they've recently done. I was reading

754
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Speaker 1: in the Australian newspaper in Western Australia they've essentially or

755
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Speaker 1: they're looking to introduce if you know, if somebody commits

756
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Speaker 1: a crime and then they're sharing that vision on TikTok,

757
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Speaker 1: my understanding is that they're I will have to go

758
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Speaker 1: back and double check what the punishment is, but they

759
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Speaker 1: are looking at those kinds of things and the impact

760
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Speaker 1: that it's having.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how big an impact it has for

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Speaker 1: us here in the Northern Territory. But what concerns me,

764
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Speaker 1: and you know, even last week we've seen there was

765
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Speaker 1: a situation where it was little kids, you know, under

766
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Speaker 1: the age of twelve who'd gone about broken breaking windows

767
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Speaker 1: all around Alice Springs. You know, I know that the

768
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Speaker 1: really obvious question is where's their parents now? If their

769
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Speaker 1: parents aren't there keeping eye on them, or if their

770
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Speaker 1: families not, where are the wrap around.

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Speaker 5: Services is my big question?

772
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Speaker 1: Or where is the opportunity for them to be to

773
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Speaker 1: drop in center or be somewhere that keeps them safe,

774
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Speaker 1: because no matter how you look at it, it is

775
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Speaker 1: not okay for kids of that age to be out

776
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Speaker 1: on the street. You know, earlier this week we have

777
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Speaker 1: one of our beautiful listeners. Cars get stolen in the

778
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Speaker 1: Northern suburbs. You know, then it got found the next day.

779
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Speaker 1: A twelve year old was arrested behind the wheel of

780
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Speaker 1: driven down an embankment. That is a danger to that kid.

781
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Speaker 1: You know, where's the duty of care from whether if

782
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Speaker 1: it's you know, if that child is not in the

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Speaker 1: care of their parents, then we are getting it really wrong.

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Speaker 2: Because them it needs a bipartisan approach. And I know

785
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Speaker 2: the CLP put up and so Lect committee to try

786
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Speaker 2: and deal with this, and I know the Labor government

787
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Speaker 2: knocked that down because this is beyond politics. This is

788
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Speaker 2: about people's safety and something needs to happen. And I

789
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Speaker 2: know chances said they'll put all this money in to it.

790
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Speaker 2: Well it hasn't worked because the crime rates have gone up.

791
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Speaker 2: And remember Labor government being in power for seventy in

792
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Speaker 2: our last twenty one years, so their policies.

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Speaker 4: Need to do they have to be many consecutive years.

794
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Speaker 4: Theat six years we.

795
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Speaker 5: Are to take that, we're going to have to take

796
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Speaker 5: a very short break.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm keen to talk about the

799
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Speaker 1: federal election. Well, you have been listening to the Week

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Speaker 1: that wasn't in the studio. If you've just joined it,

801
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: joined us. Chancey Paike Keesy, Apurican, Jered Maylee. Now we

802
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: know the federal election is this weekend. All eyes are

803
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: going to be on the federal election tomorrow night. Well,

804
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: for those political nerves of us, we might be sitting

805
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: and watching to see exactly how it rolls out.

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Speaker 5: Others have told me throughout the week they'd rather put

807
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Speaker 5: needles in their eyes.

808
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Speaker 3: Look at it.

809
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Speaker 5: It's going to be interesting, Katie.

810
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Speaker 3: The one thing I'll say is, I mean everyone does polling.

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Speaker 3: Labor parties do it, others do it. You know, newspapers

812
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Speaker 3: do it. Polls are an in Decatur. They're not hard

813
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Speaker 3: and fast. I know, they're well crafted. They're well structured

814
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Speaker 3: to allow for people who know muck around with it

815
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: and tell FIBs, you know, yes, I'm going to vote this,

816
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: when really they're not. They allow for that, you know,

817
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: in their methodology. But I'm not convinced in my own mind.

818
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: I know there's this big issue with these TiAl independent

819
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: candidates and how are they really independent and all that

820
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: sort of stuff, both sides of the major parties. But

821
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Speaker 3: what has been strong up here as well as elsewhere

822
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Speaker 3: that I've observed is the dissatisfaction with major parties. Now

823
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: why that's come about in our society and within our culture,

824
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Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but there does seem

825
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: to be a strong dissatisfaction level with major parties. Maybe

826
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Speaker 3: it's the way they go about their business or the

827
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Speaker 3: style of campaign we have here in this country versus

828
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Speaker 3: perhaps what goes on in other countries like Plants or America.

829
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Speaker 3: So according to my book is they're not going to

830
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Speaker 3: call the books. They to call the election until they

831
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Speaker 3: say about ten o'clock. Now that's unusual, right, Normally, normally

832
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Speaker 3: you get a few, particularly with those bell weather seats

833
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Speaker 3: as we know in Anaro Bass down in Tasmania, and

834
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Speaker 3: there's probably a few others around the country. The election

835
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Speaker 3: is usually known before the w A poles have closed.

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Speaker 4: Almost Yeah, so that's going to be tight, they're predicting

837
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Speaker 4: it's going to be.

838
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Speaker 3: It's going to be tight because Labour has to pick

839
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Speaker 3: up obviously a lot more seats in Queensland. I'm not

840
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Speaker 3: sure they're going to be that successful there because you've

841
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: got the strong cat of movements and One Nation are

842
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: strong in Queensland as well as top of northern New

843
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Speaker 3: South Wales w A. I think they're going to lose

844
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Speaker 3: a few liberal seats over there, either to labor or

845
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Speaker 3: to perhaps the till kind of candidates, because that Simon

846
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: Holmes the court. He has thrown a lot of money,

847
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: like we're talking serious money, you know, given his background,

848
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Speaker 3: in his family's background. So you say, oh, does that

849
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Speaker 3: that influence people? Well, yes, it can. You know, if

850
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Speaker 3: you see a message time and time again, you know,

851
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Speaker 3: after about the third time, it starts to resonate in

852
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Speaker 3: your thinking. And if you people, people shy away from

853
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: the negative. I think that's a given. But if you

854
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: get a strong message that this is what's going to happen,

855
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: then people start to believe it. So, I mean, I've

856
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: listened to some of the promises of both campaigns and clearly,

857
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: you know, Scott Morrison and the Coalition go down the

858
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: economy and the stronger common route, and the labor people

859
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: tend to go down the more social route. But they're

860
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 3: both important, you know, and I think you know sometimes

861
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: sometimes I say to people, really, in the great scheme

862
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: of things, our major parties are very similar, you know,

863
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: we don't have that complete fracture like you get in

864
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Speaker 3: some countries.

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Speaker 4: Around I mean, Australia is becoming more aligned with that

866
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Speaker 4: middle gram, but it's becoming more obsessed in some degree

867
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Speaker 4: with American politics, where we don't run presidential campaigns. We

868
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Speaker 4: run based on parties, values, philosophies, like that's where we

869
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: need to be. But people are getting.

870
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Speaker 2: This election is going to be won and lost on

871
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Speaker 2: the preferences. There will be this you know, vote to

872
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: this independence, but it comes back down to the preferences.

873
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: So you're going to make sure that when you do

874
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: your vote, you vote who have you want to number one?

875
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: But your preferences are important. You need to make sure

876
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: that you think about that. And it goes down to

877
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: your major party, whether you're going a liberal or Labor

878
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: or Liberal Democrats or whoever you want to vote for.

879
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: But if you're going to have the protest vote, great,

880
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: you know that it's your choice, but make sure you

881
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: think about your preferences. And we say put liberal sectors

882
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: and yeah, but it's up to you, of course, to you.

883
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Speaker 4: I mean, and and Jared knows, I mean, life will

884
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: be easy under Alban easy. He always does better under Labor.

885
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean.

886
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: Today, well, I think we know who Chelsey is tipping.

887
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: Definitely the Labor Party.

888
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 5: I'm not easier.

889
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: You think it's going to go, I'm still going to

890
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: go with the coalition. How close it is, I don't know,

891
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: because I know, I don't know. It's crazy. I've made

892
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 3: them youngs ago. But people do make up their mind

893
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 3: on the dates.

894
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 5: For whatever reason. Are you pretty well on election?

895
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: Voter vote on the day it's the.

896
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 5: It's so important democratic sausage.

897
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 4: Democracy sausage. I mean, you know and kesy, there ain't

898
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: no party like the Labor paper.

899
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: Well, excuse me, I'm going to help. I want to

900
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: those hound springs fire is out there with my sausage.

901
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: Not only will I be upset, and my mother will

902
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: be upset. She wants her election sausage.

903
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: Sage all right, trying to go never don't intend to.

904
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: Just tastes like lamb.

905
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: You know, three rule members here, so I reckon we

906
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: could bring a goat in one.

907
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: Actually be fun. I've been told it's a lot of fun.

908
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: He's going out pig hunting actually with Jered Mayley. I've

909
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: been told that a lot of fun.

910
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: Can we do a week? All go out there and

911
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: do it day of a bull catching there on that night.

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Speaker 6: We better in the morning thank you all so very

913
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 6: much for your time today. Kisi E Peric just one

914
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Speaker 6: one word of advice to territorianes. Remember being a good territories.

915
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 6: Vote early and often.

916
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: You're thinking about your preferences. It's going to be one

917
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: and lost on purpose.

918
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Speaker 3: You got a sister who's not in the territory, so

919
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Speaker 3: I'm going to vote for her as well.

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00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: For you.

921
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Speaker 5: Thank you all so much for your time this morning.

922
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Speaker 5: You are listening to the week that was. It is

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Speaker 5: mixed one O for Na