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Speaker 1: Thank you, Welcome back to Outspoken Now. We are very
Speaker 1: excited today because we are finally getting to discuss Big
Speaker 1: Brother Now as Big Brother Tragics. We have been waiting
Speaker 1: six long years for its return, and it was pretty
Speaker 1: disappointing to be honest. Well, it's on a new network,
Speaker 1: it's got a new format, and everyone's talking about it,
Speaker 1: but it seems everyone's talking about it for the wrong reasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean safe to say I was incredibly excited when
Speaker 1: we heard it was going to be airing, and you know,
Speaker 1: taking a trip down memory lane, you think of some
Speaker 1: of the housemates that came before, like Sarah Marie, even
Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley, Drew Tully, and the bar is set pretty high,
Speaker 1: and the contestants that we received on Monday were very,
Speaker 1: very disappointing. Well, it really surprised me because I've been
Speaker 1: saying for a few weeks now that I was interested
Speaker 1: to see what the ratings were going to be, and
Speaker 1: I thought it might bomb, But actually it was the
Speaker 1: number one rating program in that time slot, so it
Speaker 1: outrated Master Chef. It got eight hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: thousand viewers. Do you think that's because everyone was hoping
Speaker 1: that it would be back like it normally was and
Speaker 1: we would be, you know, going back to this show
Speaker 1: that we loved growing up, and instead.
Speaker 2: It's so different. It's the nostalgia of the show.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all thought it was going to be
Speaker 1: the saving grace of this Lockdown slash Corona period, but
Speaker 1: it's just proven to be incredibly disappointing, and I do
Speaker 1: not think that it will hold the ratings it received
Speaker 1: on the first night. Well, it actually did pretty well
Speaker 1: in the ratings second night.
Speaker 2: In really yeah, it was a number one rating.
Speaker 1: It did drop by about I think it was about
Speaker 1: ten thousand, but it's still rating pretty well.
Speaker 2: So I think people might be giving it a week because.
Speaker 1: The first episode of reality shows is notoriously bad.
Speaker 2: Did anyone else find it went for far too long?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh, yes, So obviously.
Speaker 1: The opening night that went for about an hour and
Speaker 1: a half, which is expected because you're usually meeting all
Speaker 1: the contestants, but the second episode also went for an
Speaker 1: hour and a half. I don't have that amount of
Speaker 1: time to waste, as in, I watched the first episode
Speaker 1: and I wanted the hour and a half to two
Speaker 1: hours of my life back. Well. I used to like
Speaker 1: it because it was, you know, half an hour episode,
Speaker 1: sometimes a little bit longer, but you got your daily
Speaker 1: intake of what was going on in the house. But
Speaker 1: now it seems like the episodes are bulked up because
Speaker 1: they're fitting like a couple of days into one episode.
Speaker 1: Can we start by talking about the absolute lack of
Speaker 1: hype surrounding the contestants arriving to meet Sonia. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think back to two thousand and one when Big
Speaker 1: Brother first came out and how crowds line the street
Speaker 1: to get a glimpse of the first housemates. I understand
Speaker 1: this is prerecorded, but then don't have them arrive in
Speaker 1: front of the house with no one.
Speaker 2: It just seems stupid.
Speaker 1: It was very odd, I mean, but Sonya looked as
Speaker 1: if she was sort of cringing throughout the process. It
Speaker 1: was all very bizarre to watch. Yeah, it was very lackluster,
Speaker 1: and I found it really awkward when the footy guy
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't even remember what his name's name is,
Speaker 1: Daniel Daniel rocked up and then started to have this
Speaker 1: awkward flirt with Sonya.
Speaker 2: It was cringe. But then he also.
Speaker 1: Drops that he's not going to get into any sort
Speaker 1: of romantic relationship in the house, and he's got someone
Speaker 1: waiting for him yet isn't he sort of linked to
Speaker 1: some other.
Speaker 2: Blonde girl in the house next minute.
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to create a storyline like they
Speaker 1: did with Lawson and Kat from Big Brother a number
Speaker 1: of years ago when he cheated on his girlfriend. So
Speaker 1: maybe they're kind of keeping that, keeping it interesting. I
Speaker 1: just mentioned that is a good point because we didn't
Speaker 1: see some of the other people arriving. Did you notice
Speaker 1: that some people were just tossed in the house, Like
Speaker 1: there's apparently a guy called Xavier in there, who he's
Speaker 1: just like the blonde guy in the background.
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen him say.
Speaker 1: Oh, Xavier, not Exavier, No, it's Xavier.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the fact that we're know it's been
Speaker 1: pre recorded and it's been highly edited, suggests that the
Speaker 1: people that we're getting to know quite well are those
Speaker 1: that are going to stick around. That's, of course not
Speaker 1: to spoil it for anyone, but Alan, who got evicted,
Speaker 1: I actually thought he'd stick.
Speaker 2: Around for a while.
Speaker 1: He was actually my favorite because I thought, finally we've
Speaker 1: got someone who might actually shake things up in this house. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we should get into some of the changes
Speaker 1: regarding this season of Big Brother, And you did mention
Speaker 1: the very different style of housemates. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think because they are so different, Well, the initial bunch
Speaker 1: they put in the first episode are so different to
Speaker 1: what we've seen in previous series. I definitely think that
Speaker 1: Big Brother hit the nail on the head with including
Speaker 1: a diverse cast and when we see a lot of
Speaker 1: different ethnicities, ages, sexual preferences. So I think that they
Speaker 1: were good in representing a wide range of people. Where
Speaker 1: I think that they went wrong though, is that there's
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: Of odd balls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of the representation, which we've said are good.
Speaker 1: The disappointing thing is we don't get to hear any
Speaker 1: of their story. So can you imagine if Farmer Dave
Speaker 1: had gone in? Of course, he became famous because he
Speaker 1: actually came out as gay on Big Brother, which was
Speaker 1: such a big moment in reality TV history. And imagine
Speaker 1: if he had gone in there and then got voted
Speaker 1: out three days in and never got to.
Speaker 2: Share a story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't seem like the intention of Big Brother
Speaker 1: is to actually well, is for us as a viewer,
Speaker 1: to get to know the contestants. It just seems to
Speaker 1: be all about strategy, which I hate. But then it's
Speaker 1: funny because they say it's all about strategy, but it
Speaker 1: actually seems like more of a popularity contest because the
Speaker 1: players like Kieran and Allen who actually tried to have
Speaker 1: some strategy everyone saw through and they got voted out
Speaker 1: or they got in trouble for wanting to strategize. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the other huge change the rules of voting. So
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, housemates put other housemates
Speaker 1: up previction, but now it's if you win a competition,
Speaker 1: you get to put up three housemates for eviction, and
Speaker 1: then the housemates decide who gets evicted rather than the public.
Speaker 2: Do you guys like that style of voting? I'm assuming no.
Speaker 1: Well, it's fairly obvious that the executive producer of Survivor
Speaker 1: has now come across to be the executive producer of
Speaker 1: Big Brother because a lot of people on Twitter have
Speaker 1: been calling this series a Big Brother as the backyard Survivor,
Speaker 1: which is I am not interested in seeing people do challenges,
Speaker 1: especially people who we don't even know. I know there
Speaker 1: used to be Friday night games, but literally you could
Speaker 1: just not watch that if you weren't interested and you
Speaker 1: didn't lose out on anything that was going on in
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 2: The thing about.
Speaker 1: Friday night games, which was good was remember whoever won,
Speaker 1: they then had some huge booze up in the oh
Speaker 1: I love the piss up in a hideaway or whatever.
Speaker 2: I know that's love Island, but whatever, it was, yeah
Speaker 2: and now.
Speaker 1: And also with Friday night games, they were kind of
Speaker 1: funny games everyone can get behind.
Speaker 2: But these just are boring, like.
Speaker 1: People swinging and ice melting. We might as well been
Speaker 1: watching paint dry, because that's what it felt like watching
Speaker 1: a block of ice dry.
Speaker 2: The only funny thing.
Speaker 1: About that ice challenge though, sorry melts. The only funny
Speaker 1: thing about that ice challenge though, Did anyone else notice
Speaker 1: that it looked like when the guys were trying to
Speaker 1: get their flags out. It looked like they were having
Speaker 1: sort of a inappropriate motion.
Speaker 2: In their hands. Big Brother on cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big Big Brother own cut for
Speaker 1: my liking. Well, it got pretty sick when Daniel tried
Speaker 1: to piss on the ice. I thought that was too far,
Speaker 1: So I actually thought that was something that was slightly
Speaker 1: exciting that happened.
Speaker 2: What him getting his penis out, But at least it
Speaker 2: was entertaining.
Speaker 1: We're going back to your question about the nominations. What
Speaker 1: I thought was so odd is the whole idea of
Speaker 1: Big Brother has been for people to cast a number
Speaker 1: of votes and actually give their reason as to why
Speaker 1: they don't want to live with these housemates. I mean,
Speaker 1: back in the day, there used to be an hour
Speaker 1: and a half long nomination session. Now people don't actually
Speaker 1: have to have a legitimate reason or they don't give
Speaker 1: a certain number of votes out.
Speaker 2: Well, can you imagine.
Speaker 1: If this voting style was back in the first series,
Speaker 1: Sarah Marie probably would have been voted out the first week.
Speaker 1: And it's giving housemates really trivial as you said, well
Speaker 1: not even excuses. But for example, if someone's snoring in
Speaker 1: the house, that's super entertaining. They can them out and
Speaker 1: we as viewers miss out, So we just are going
Speaker 1: to see the people who were most pleasant to live with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think what was interesting about the previous nomination
Speaker 1: process was that they were all secret, so no one
Speaker 1: was allowed to talk about who they were nominating, so
Speaker 1: people could actually then invest time into their friendship. And
Speaker 1: you could have given Daniel two votes for snoring and
Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't have been voted out if he was entertaining.
Speaker 1: But now it's like people are all I mean, I
Speaker 1: suppose that's the point. They want people to turn on
Speaker 1: each other, but I do feel at the moment the
Speaker 1: house has got that cool kid vibe and it's like
Speaker 1: the King and the Queen of the House ruling it
Speaker 1: at the moment, and I don't really like that. But
Speaker 1: as you would, you touched on this new voting system,
Speaker 1: the inevitable result is the people who are annoying and
Speaker 1: interesting to watch they're just going to get rid of.
Speaker 1: So we're going to be left with some mediocre, plain
Speaker 1: boring people.
Speaker 2: That's what happened with Alan.
Speaker 1: It'll be really interesting to see how that affects Ian.
Speaker 1: So he was, of course the guy that's come in
Speaker 1: to make friends because he is a little bit socially
Speaker 1: awkward and I feel like he will be a favorite
Speaker 1: amongst Australia, but maybe some people will see that as
Speaker 1: a threat, or maybe he just doesn't have it in
Speaker 1: him to play the game. I feel quite sorry for
Speaker 1: him because when I saw his little intro tape, I
Speaker 1: just thought, is he just in there for people to
Speaker 1: snigger and laugh at?
Speaker 2: I think he's an actor. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't actually think that he would genuinely say those things,
Speaker 1: like the scene when they went to him looking at
Speaker 1: the fish.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just all seemed a bit hammed up to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe not have a name for his squid. He's there
Speaker 1: hugging this plush toy squid. Yeah, it doesn't have a
Speaker 1: name and is the most imaginative name Sonya can come
Speaker 1: up with is squiddy. That's disappointing. Well, Bis, back to
Speaker 1: your point about actors. There has been a Daily Mail
Speaker 1: article which has come out accusing two of the housemates
Speaker 1: as being actors, and that's Xavier and Talia. I mean
Speaker 1: when they say secret actors, basically they have done acting before.
Speaker 1: So who know, pretty obvious that people that are wanting
Speaker 1: to be in the limelight, are going to go on
Speaker 1: Big Brother for fame, and they might have acting experience.
Speaker 1: Can I just say, if these people are actually I
Speaker 1: would hope for a lot more entertainment than what is
Speaker 1: being offered at the moment. Well, on the whole acting thing,
Speaker 1: what disappoints me the most about this series of Big
Speaker 1: Brother is the fact that it's pre recorded, because felt
Speaker 1: like there was an element of excitement, the fact that
Speaker 1: the house was going on while we were watching in
Speaker 1: that live element, and you actually felt like it was accountable,
Speaker 1: Like you could go on to the Big Brother website
Speaker 1: and there were literally people paid to write down everything
Speaker 1: the contestants were saying, and you could of course check
Speaker 1: in with up late and you felt engaged. So you
Speaker 1: don't feel engaged because it's already been decided. I just
Speaker 1: feel like the whole series screams low budget, and you
Speaker 1: can see from Seven's perspective why they have been cautious.
Speaker 1: I mean, in my opinion, the house is a lot
Speaker 1: smaller than in previous years. See, I actually liked the house.
Speaker 1: I thought it looked pretty cool. I just got a
Speaker 1: look time I was watching on my iPad, so it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like the villa they had on Love Island,
Speaker 1: Australia and Fiji Small and POxy. The other thing is
Speaker 1: you were talking about the excitement of having the crowd
Speaker 1: and it being in real time. I think back to yeah,
Speaker 1: the first the first few series, and there was that
Speaker 1: buzz of excitement. And also in the first year you
Speaker 1: knew that Channel ten had invested in Big Brother because
Speaker 1: they'd built an all purpose house.
Speaker 2: It just had this real buzz about it.
Speaker 1: The fact that it was tied in with was it
Speaker 1: dream World or whatever, Well I think that was a
Speaker 1: cool element. Because it's not filmed on the Gold Coast anymore.
Speaker 1: It's now in Manly. I don't know, it just it
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not the same.
Speaker 2: But I felt like there.
Speaker 1: Was something for everyone. I mean, as kids, you could
Speaker 1: go along to the live evictions and get dressed up
Speaker 1: in you know, your Pooh Bear pajamas and bunny Is
Speaker 1: to represent Sarah Marie. But now there's nothing, and I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's now just this really family friendly vibe.
Speaker 1: Before there was something for everyone with up Late or Uncut,
Speaker 1: you know, there were so many different elements to please everyone.
Speaker 1: And think back to the series that were really popular.
Speaker 2: They all had massive twists.
Speaker 1: I think it was either the second or third series
Speaker 1: they brought in the twins, the Logan Brothers. That was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: whenever they brought that in, and that was an amazing twist.
Speaker 1: And there's been mother and daughter maybe that was the
Speaker 1: second year, Crystal Dmerherst a really young mother and then
Speaker 1: what was our twist this year? But the thing is
Speaker 1: with the twist, it's like all they've done is go
Speaker 1: back to basics but left out all the good parts
Speaker 1: because amy our twist was the fact that Kieran was
Speaker 1: asked to do a secret challenge on the first night.
Speaker 1: I've always had secrets, so that was so lame. It
Speaker 1: was literally like slapstick comedy. Oh, let's get him to
Speaker 1: massage someone, Let's give them together a name. The whole
Speaker 1: thing is, though, everyone has been calling for more diversity
Speaker 1: in the house and so people can have those really
Speaker 1: interesting conversations that then spark the public to have conversations
Speaker 1: around the water cooler at work. I think what they
Speaker 1: should have had is each week a bit like how
Speaker 1: they have the Math's dinner party. They should have a
Speaker 1: huge dinner party and people put in questions like, for instance,
Speaker 1: we could have questions about people's sexuality, the Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter movement, things that are going to get people talking,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna hear lots of different opinions, different Australogy.
Speaker 1: Difficult for a commercial network to put themselves out like
Speaker 1: that and air those sort of conversations. Podcast are so
Speaker 1: popular now because people want conversations that aren't edited, which
Speaker 1: something like up late actually could provide. I'd love to
Speaker 1: see some of them just sitting around talking about important issues.
Speaker 1: So that's the issue with having it all focused on
Speaker 1: strategy and the game. We only are hearing conversations about
Speaker 1: who's voting who, and it's like I don't want to
Speaker 1: I literally want to sit and watch like I used
Speaker 1: to do with Christian Reggie, eating em and ms and
Speaker 1: talking shit. That's a big brother is I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the fact as well is it is. Even though
Speaker 1: they've revented it, it is a very outdated concept. You
Speaker 1: think since the last episode aired, we've had shows like
Speaker 1: Love Island, We've had you know, Too Hot to Handle, recently, Maths,
Speaker 1: all these shows where people are filmed twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven and we get this fly on the wall look
Speaker 1: so We're kind of past the point of just watching
Speaker 1: people sit.
Speaker 2: In the house, like there's got to be something else
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: As you said, even Jeordie, sure, there was a full
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven feeling about that show you saw
Speaker 1: people having sex. It's literally not that I want to
Speaker 1: see that on TV. But as you said, there's nothing.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, I'm trying to vote you for
Speaker 1: living in a house. They've all just been living in
Speaker 1: our houses, locked away for months and months, and there's
Speaker 1: no tea bags.
Speaker 2: Who care?
Speaker 1: I actually do really like Angela though she's probably my favorite.
Speaker 2: I like her too, But.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I could imagine that maybe being a
Speaker 1: topic in the first series A Big Brother. But as
Speaker 1: you said, really sorry, the first series was the best.
Speaker 1: It was the best series, but we were first introduced
Speaker 1: to reality TV and it was more entertaining just seeing
Speaker 1: people live in a house and having that experience of
Speaker 1: fly on the wall. Now, as you said, we've seen
Speaker 1: Geordie show people having sex, We've seen Love Island, you know,
Speaker 1: huge relations but even like the twists on X on
Speaker 1: the Beach getting people's exes into course trouble, how are
Speaker 1: they trying to cause trouble what by getting rid of
Speaker 1: people's vices. That being said, though, just back to the
Speaker 1: casting of the show, I think it's fair to say
Speaker 1: that a lot of the people who were put in
Speaker 1: on the first episode, you could describe them as a
Speaker 1: little bit of misfits. See Ian and Kieran's a bit
Speaker 1: of a misfit, which is obviously great to see, but
Speaker 1: then isn't well. I feel like they add something to it,
Speaker 1: but I almost feel like there's too many misfits. I
Speaker 1: feel like that was almost the twist everyone was expecting,
Speaker 1: you know, the girl who wants the Instagram followers to
Speaker 1: come into the house, and now they've put in some
Speaker 1: sort of more typical hotties. They've got the male model,
Speaker 1: and they've got the you know, the blonde girl that
Speaker 1: is apparently going.
Speaker 2: To hook up PA's not blonde's brunette or whatever.
Speaker 1: Can I just say I love Garth I think it
Speaker 1: is who is the flamboyant guy with the flower on
Speaker 1: his shirt. He actually won the challenge, which was amazing.
Speaker 1: He is just wonderful. I really would like to see
Speaker 1: him win. But that's, you know, two episodes in. I
Speaker 1: think another point is the reason that the previous series
Speaker 1: of Big Brother didn't rate very well. Is we didn't
Speaker 1: see enough of the housemates. Yeah, so that was a
Speaker 1: series when they got rid of up Late and they
Speaker 1: got rid of I think Friday night games and also uncut,
Speaker 1: and it literally was just a really edited I mean
Speaker 1: not anywhere you're as edited as this pre recorded version is.
Speaker 1: But it was just very half an hour and that's it.
Speaker 1: I would have thought Channel seven would have really been
Speaker 1: trying to push viewers to their back channel seven plus,
Speaker 1: and in doing so would have had something like up Late.
Speaker 1: I know they can't have that obviously because it's not live,
Speaker 1: but have something ad it.
Speaker 2: Do you know what? Though?
Speaker 1: They could have had up Late, do you know? Because
Speaker 1: the worst thing when you chuned into uplate was when
Speaker 1: the housemates were asleep. Do you guys remember that?
Speaker 2: You're like, oh no.
Speaker 1: But what they could have done is they've got all
Speaker 1: of the tapes apparently of the whole night. Why don't
Speaker 1: they take highlights and do Uplate from that.
Speaker 2: Night actually show quality stuff? I suppose the whole.
Speaker 1: Edited fact though, because you don't want it to feel edited,
Speaker 1: you just want it to be a live stream. But
Speaker 1: they could just live stream an actual exciting conversation. Do
Speaker 1: you think they got rid of the live element because
Speaker 1: you know when Big Brother kind of turned bad when
Speaker 1: the Turkey slap incident happened. Do you think that's why
Speaker 1: they've kind of tried to make it.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think they definitely face lots of troubles with just
Speaker 1: live streaming the house because I remember on certain occasions
Speaker 1: people would swear or say inappropriate things. Do you know
Speaker 1: what the thing is is that no networks are willing
Speaker 1: to take a risk on a show that doesn't actually
Speaker 1: suit all of the demographics or fit.
Speaker 2: In with them.
Speaker 1: So it's ultra family friendly because Channel seven are playing
Speaker 1: it safe and it's actually working for them at the moment. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like in this day and age, when people
Speaker 1: are very woke and aware of things, that one wrong
Speaker 1: thing said really could shut the whole show down.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought that.
Speaker 1: They had Laura in there for the feminists. I read
Speaker 1: her profile and it said that she stands up for
Speaker 1: herself and loves to have arguments, and then we get
Speaker 1: rid of her the first night. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of important conversations that could have been aired from her
Speaker 1: point of view, but they're not even going to air them.
Speaker 1: They're just going to, Oh, I'm going to vote for
Speaker 1: this person.
Speaker 2: How old is that going to get?
Speaker 1: In terms of the over editing, what does everyone think
Speaker 1: of the music, because that's really a motive and that's
Speaker 1: something that we saw that shows like The Bachelor using
Speaker 1: to give people different impressions of different characters, and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's quite a dangerous element that's now been
Speaker 1: added to the show. I found the music extremely over
Speaker 1: the top, the point where I was like, I cannot
Speaker 1: actually watch this. This is so ridiculous. And they were
Speaker 1: also bringing out the really dramatic music when nothing dramatic
Speaker 1: was happening to be like ohh, and they've got rid
Speaker 1: of the theme song that we all love of Big Brother.
Speaker 1: I know there might be contractual agreements with using that
Speaker 1: theme song, but they's thought I love about it. I
Speaker 1: think if you've brought the Big Brother brand, you'd get
Speaker 1: the theme song. We're talking about the Big Brother brand.
Speaker 1: Big Brother's voice is completely different.
Speaker 2: I hate it. It sounds almost really creep like I've
Speaker 2: been watching you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as Ian said it was quite seductive or something,
Speaker 1: which was a weird thing for him to say anyway,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not a fan. I do love the
Speaker 1: og voice. And where is Mike Goldman? Because we were
Speaker 1: promised he would be a part of the production and
Speaker 1: he's meant to be coming back and hosting some sort
Speaker 1: of back show where they just chat and everything.
Speaker 2: So I don't know when one's coming.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be doing interviews with those that have been
Speaker 1: voted off, but they were voted off like two months ago,
Speaker 1: so really are they going to remember that much about
Speaker 1: their three days in the house.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I find interesting though?
Speaker 1: Going back to the voices on the old school Big Brother,
Speaker 1: do you remember when something was clearly shot at night,
Speaker 1: when the proper Big Brother wasn't there and there was
Speaker 1: like a secondary voice. I wonder if there will be
Speaker 1: a secondary voice in this, it'll show if it is
Speaker 1: just really edited and they've always got him there when
Speaker 1: they're trying to manipulate a situation, I'll just dub it.
Speaker 1: They'll just put Big Brother's dub voice over the top.
Speaker 1: One other thing that I'm going to miss about this
Speaker 1: new series is the fact that they don't seem to
Speaker 1: be having those weekly tasks. You know, sometimes they would
Speaker 1: send babies in or they'd have to stay up all
Speaker 1: night and watch something or that.
Speaker 2: That's what brought all the group together.
Speaker 1: Remember in the first series when they had the fire
Speaker 1: pit and there was that controversy because there are a
Speaker 1: certain number of people were supposed to stay around the
Speaker 1: pit and Sarah Marie accidentally left. Yeah, we're talking about
Speaker 1: ways this show could have been better though this series.
Speaker 2: You know what I would have done.
Speaker 1: I would have taken the element of I'm a celebrity,
Speaker 1: get me out of here, and actually, well, the element
Speaker 1: of having the celebrities in the house and either chosen
Speaker 1: really well know people to be in the Big Brother House,
Speaker 1: or chosen previous favorite contestants of Big.
Speaker 2: Brother, like what Master Chef have done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like bring back Sarah Marie Blair, have Sky.
Speaker 2: Wheatley and then just have it as the normal format.
Speaker 2: How much better would that be?
Speaker 1: Or even just big YouTube stars and influencers, like people
Speaker 1: with some sort of following. I suppose that would have
Speaker 1: been like the z great celebrities that were they were chosen.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Michael Finch and Johnie grummand in the house.
Speaker 2: I'd watched that.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least we can know that people like
Speaker 1: Kieren and Ian perhaps aren't just after Instagram followers, and
Speaker 1: I don't quite know what they are. I experience maybe
Speaker 1: poor Ian's just after friends, not like fake followers. Was
Speaker 1: anyone else shocked that Kieran was twenty one? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I thought he was so much older. Really, yeah, because
Speaker 1: they said he'd be driving on his ls for three years,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, hang on, how old is he?
Speaker 1: And then He's like, oh, yeah, I think I'm the
Speaker 1: youngest contestant. I'm twenty one, And I was like, what
Speaker 1: did anyone else feel like there was a bit of
Speaker 1: a bullying vibe towards him, Like I thought some of
Speaker 1: the contestants were bring pretty awful, saying that he was
Speaker 1: a dead mouse in the house and not bothering to
Speaker 1: get to know him.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I found him quite annoying.
Speaker 1: To be honest, He's probably a really nice guy, but
Speaker 1: in terms of the snippets and highly edited material we saw,
Speaker 1: I feel like he do my head and if I
Speaker 1: was in the house. So is anyone going to continue watching?
Speaker 1: Because even though we've kind of just completely canned it,
Speaker 1: I probably will give it more of a chance to
Speaker 1: see how it evolved. I actually found in the second
Speaker 1: episode a lot better than the first. Do you know
Speaker 1: what if they bring up Bachelor in Paradise and it's
Speaker 1: at the same time, I don't think I'll have time
Speaker 1: to watch both, and I'll probably choose Bachelor in Paradise
Speaker 1: over Big Brother.
Speaker 2: But I want to.
Speaker 1: Give it some more time to see if it does
Speaker 1: get any better. I do like the preview we saw
Speaker 1: last night of the new housemates coming in and the
Speaker 1: King and Queen aka Talia and Daniel getting.
Speaker 2: Quite upset about it.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of territorial behavior going
Speaker 1: on that could be quite interesting. Yeah, I'm not a
Speaker 1: big fan of Tylier at this stage. I found her
Speaker 1: a little bit clicky and a bit ridiculous that she
Speaker 1: was going off about the fact that they were originals. Honey,
Speaker 1: you've been there for like two days. Anyway, it was
Speaker 1: a lot to unpack. I am disappointed that we weren't
Speaker 1: happier with it, but I think you've got to give
Speaker 1: it a couple more episodes. You know what, I'd be
Speaker 1: highly disappointed if I had signed up for Big Brother
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: I would just not want to go, and I would
Speaker 2: never do that.
Speaker 1: So no, but back in the day. I would have
Speaker 1: loved to have been a big brother. I thought it
Speaker 1: would be so cool, except for the whole having to
Speaker 1: go to the toilet in front of cameras and showering
Speaker 1: nude or whatever. Oh open showers. This year they haven't
Speaker 1: really made that a big thing. But they did have
Speaker 1: Garth I think his name is. He was the intruder.
Speaker 1: I was talking about that.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: He had to sneak out because they were trying not
Speaker 1: to be seen by the housemates, and they showed him
Speaker 1: winging like you know, obviously with a booth around him, but.
Speaker 2: You could hear the noise. I say. I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: do you be really bad?
Speaker 1: Like back in the day, you know, and they used
Speaker 1: to have the people writing down every word they said
Speaker 1: the editor or sorry produces.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you could not get away with doing
Speaker 2: a secret fart.
Speaker 1: Could you, because you think people write it down. No,
Speaker 1: but like as in people, we'd hear it. You're micd
Speaker 1: up twenty four seven people are writing everything people say,
Speaker 1: your whole twenty four hours being monitored. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: you couldn't even go away to the toilet.
Speaker 2: How is that different this year? But I just was
Speaker 2: thinking how horrifying. Do you know what, I'm sure everyone's
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: Do you know what they didn't have this year was
Speaker 1: the walk through of the house. You know when Gretel
Speaker 1: or Sonya used to throw all the different areas.
Speaker 2: Here's the camera. I loved that.
Speaker 1: Talking about hosts, what do you guys think if Sonya
Speaker 1: compared to Gretel Because I'm an og Gretel Colleen fan.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, sorry, I have to butt in that
Speaker 1: Marissa the sixty year old in there. Someone in our
Speaker 1: group has pointed this out. She looks like Gretel Colleen
Speaker 1: with a blonde wig on. Yes, I actually from our groups.
Speaker 1: I actually saw a screenshot of and I was like,
Speaker 1: when did Gretel go in? And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's her. She seems pretty cool. I love the in
Speaker 1: her addition, she was asking about her hair, dryer and
Speaker 1: makeup like that would be me. Just back to what
Speaker 1: people are bringing in. How the hell did Ian fit
Speaker 1: everything in that backpack? And then he brought that massive
Speaker 1: squidness and then all the presents for everyone that were
Speaker 1: like rocks that no one would want. I mean, really,
Speaker 1: he's just going to be wearing different shirts and shorts
Speaker 1: there's not that much for a man to bring in.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think you'd be very high maintenance. Just quickly
Speaker 1: back to the hosts, what what do you guys think? Oh,
Speaker 1: there's no comparison. I mean, oh, sorry, I forgot to
Speaker 1: add that Kyle and Jackie O were also hosted. Well,
Speaker 1: let's forget about them. Gretel Colleen. They should have brought
Speaker 1: her back. She was amazing. Sonya is not too bad.
Speaker 1: She's definitely better than Kyle and Jackie. Oh. Oh, I
Speaker 1: actually thought Sonya's been quite good because when she has
Speaker 1: a little interviews with their whilst they're waiting to be evicted,
Speaker 1: she seemed to ask the difficult questions. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I loved when Gretel Colleen was on because she'd
Speaker 1: always sort of ask really cheeky questions.
Speaker 2: And does everyone remember.
Speaker 1: She actually hooked up with that really young guy Saxon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: has that blonde hottie that was in the house. Oh,
Speaker 1: she's just such a good host. I mean, remember when
Speaker 1: was it Marlon came out and he did the protest
Speaker 1: for the refugee That was pretty amazing for the time,
Speaker 1: and she was just so good. It would have been
Speaker 1: so hard to do that whole interview with someone refusing
Speaker 1: to speak for something over their mouth, but she did
Speaker 1: a great job of it. She was very professional. Well
Speaker 1: that's probably all we've got time for. But we will
Speaker 1: be talking more about Big Brother and any other reality
Speaker 1: shows that up in our Facebook group, So come over
Speaker 1: there and join in the nightly threads we'll be having
Speaker 1: because we'd love to hear your thoughts. I mean, I
Speaker 1: might not be as vocal because I may give it
Speaker 1: a miss soon, but.
Speaker 2: We'll see how we will push through.
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