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Speaker 1: Amy Kate and Sophie Torbor. We're identical triplets, but we

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Speaker 1: Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues

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Speaker 2: That is so thatched.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Welcome back to Outspoken Now. We are very

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Speaker 1: excited today because we are finally getting to discuss Big

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Speaker 1: Brother Now as Big Brother Tragics. We have been waiting

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Speaker 1: six long years for its return, and it was pretty

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Speaker 1: disappointing to be honest. Well, it's on a new network,

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Speaker 1: it's got a new format, and everyone's talking about it,

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Speaker 1: but it seems everyone's talking about it for the wrong reasons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean safe to say I was incredibly excited when

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Speaker 1: we heard it was going to be airing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: taking a trip down memory lane, you think of some

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Speaker 1: of the housemates that came before, like Sarah Marie, even

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Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley, Drew Tully, and the bar is set pretty high,

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Speaker 1: and the contestants that we received on Monday were very,

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Speaker 1: very disappointing. Well, it really surprised me because I've been

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Speaker 1: saying for a few weeks now that I was interested

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Speaker 1: to see what the ratings were going to be, and

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Speaker 1: I thought it might bomb, But actually it was the

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Speaker 1: number one rating program in that time slot, so it

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Speaker 1: outrated Master Chef. It got eight hundred and fifty three

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Speaker 1: thousand viewers. Do you think that's because everyone was hoping

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Speaker 1: that it would be back like it normally was and

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Speaker 1: we would be, you know, going back to this show

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Speaker 1: that we loved growing up, and instead.

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Speaker 2: It's so different. It's the nostalgia of the show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all thought it was going to be

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Speaker 1: the saving grace of this Lockdown slash Corona period, but

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Speaker 1: it's just proven to be incredibly disappointing, and I do

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Speaker 1: on the first night. Well, it actually did pretty well

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Speaker 1: in the ratings second night.

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Speaker 2: In really yeah, it was a number one rating.

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Speaker 1: It did drop by about I think it was about

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Speaker 2: So I think people might be giving it a week because.

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Speaker 1: The first episode of reality shows is notoriously bad.

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Speaker 2: Did anyone else find it went for far too long?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh, yes, So obviously.

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Speaker 1: The opening night that went for about an hour and

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Speaker 1: the contestants, but the second episode also went for an

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Speaker 1: hour and a half. I don't have that amount of

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Speaker 1: and I wanted the hour and a half to two

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Speaker 1: hours of my life back. Well. I used to like

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Speaker 1: it because it was, you know, half an hour episode,

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Speaker 1: sometimes a little bit longer, but you got your daily

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Speaker 1: Can we start by talking about the absolute lack of

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Speaker 1: hype surrounding the contestants arriving to meet Sonia. I mean,

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Speaker 2: It just seems stupid.

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Speaker 1: It was very odd, I mean, but Sonya looked as

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Speaker 1: Drops that he's not going to get into any sort

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Speaker 1: I think they're trying to create a storyline like they

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the fact that we're know it's been

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Speaker 1: He was actually my favorite because I thought, finally we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of the representation, which we've said are good.

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Speaker 1: The disappointing thing is we don't get to hear any

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't seem like the intention of Big Brother

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Speaker 2: Do you guys like that style of voting? I'm assuming no.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's fairly obvious that the executive producer of Survivor

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Speaker 1: Big Brother because a lot of people on Twitter have

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Speaker 1: been calling this series a Big Brother as the backyard Survivor,

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Speaker 1: which is I am not interested in seeing people do challenges,

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Speaker 1: used to be Friday night games, but literally you could

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Speaker 1: And also with Friday night games, they were kind of

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Speaker 1: People swinging and ice melting. We might as well been

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Speaker 2: The only funny thing.

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Speaker 1: About that ice challenge though, sorry melts. The only funny

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Speaker 2: In their hands. Big Brother on cut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big Big Brother own cut for

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Speaker 2: What him getting his penis out, But at least it

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Speaker 1: We're going back to your question about the nominations. What

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Speaker 1: And it's giving housemates really trivial as you said, well

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Speaker 1: But now it's like people are all I mean, I

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Speaker 1: the King and the Queen of the House ruling it

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Speaker 1: at the moment, and I don't really like that. But

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Speaker 1: as you would, you touched on this new voting system,

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Speaker 1: the inevitable result is the people who are annoying and

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Speaker 1: So we're going to be left with some mediocre, plain

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Speaker 2: That's what happened with Alan.

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Speaker 1: It'll be really interesting to see how that affects Ian.

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Speaker 1: So he was, of course the guy that's come in

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Speaker 1: I don't actually think that he would genuinely say those things,

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Speaker 1: So it's ultra family friendly because Channel seven are playing

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Speaker 2: I hate it. It sounds almost really creep like I've

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Speaker 1: of back show where they just chat and everything.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know when one's coming.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be doing interviews with those that have been

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Speaker 1: voted off, but they were voted off like two months ago,

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Speaker 1: so really are they going to remember that much about

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Speaker 1: their three days in the house.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I find interesting though?

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Speaker 1: Going back to the voices on the old school Big Brother,

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Speaker 1: do you remember when something was clearly shot at night,

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Speaker 1: when the proper Big Brother wasn't there and there was

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Speaker 1: like a secondary voice. I wonder if there will be

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Speaker 1: a secondary voice in this, it'll show if it is

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Speaker 1: just really edited and they've always got him there when

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Speaker 1: they're trying to manipulate a situation, I'll just dub it.

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Speaker 1: They'll just put Big Brother's dub voice over the top.

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Speaker 1: One other thing that I'm going to miss about this

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Speaker 1: new series is the fact that they don't seem to

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Speaker 1: be having those weekly tasks. You know, sometimes they would

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Speaker 1: send babies in or they'd have to stay up all

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Speaker 1: night and watch something or that.

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Speaker 2: That's what brought all the group together.

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Speaker 1: Remember in the first series when they had the fire

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Speaker 1: pit and there was that controversy because there are a

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Speaker 1: certain number of people were supposed to stay around the

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Speaker 1: pit and Sarah Marie accidentally left. Yeah, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: ways this show could have been better though this series.

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Speaker 2: You know what I would have done.

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Speaker 1: I would have taken the element of I'm a celebrity,

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Speaker 1: get me out of here, and actually, well, the element

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Speaker 1: of having the celebrities in the house and either chosen

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Speaker 1: really well know people to be in the Big Brother House,

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Speaker 1: or chosen previous favorite contestants of Big.

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Speaker 2: Brother, like what Master Chef have done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like bring back Sarah Marie Blair, have Sky.

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Speaker 2: Wheatley and then just have it as the normal format.

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Speaker 2: How much better would that be?

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Speaker 1: Or even just big YouTube stars and influencers, like people

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Speaker 1: with some sort of following. I suppose that would have

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Speaker 1: been like the z great celebrities that were they were chosen.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine Michael Finch and Johnie grummand in the house.

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Speaker 2: I'd watched that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least we can know that people like

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Speaker 1: Kieren and Ian perhaps aren't just after Instagram followers, and

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Speaker 1: I don't quite know what they are. I experience maybe

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Speaker 1: poor Ian's just after friends, not like fake followers. Was

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Speaker 1: anyone else shocked that Kieran was twenty one? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was so much older. Really, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: they said he'd be driving on his ls for three years,

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Speaker 1: and then I was like, hang on, how old is he?

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Speaker 1: And then He's like, oh, yeah, I think I'm the

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Speaker 1: youngest contestant. I'm twenty one, And I was like, what

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Speaker 1: did anyone else feel like there was a bit of

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Speaker 1: a bullying vibe towards him, Like I thought some of

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Speaker 1: the contestants were bring pretty awful, saying that he was

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Speaker 1: a dead mouse in the house and not bothering to

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Speaker 1: get to know him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I found him quite annoying.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, He's probably a really nice guy, but

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Speaker 1: in terms of the snippets and highly edited material we saw,

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Speaker 1: I feel like he do my head and if I

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Speaker 1: was in the house. So is anyone going to continue watching?

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Speaker 1: Because even though we've kind of just completely canned it,

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Speaker 1: I probably will give it more of a chance to

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Speaker 1: see how it evolved. I actually found in the second

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Speaker 1: episode a lot better than the first. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what if they bring up Bachelor in Paradise and it's

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Speaker 1: at the same time, I don't think I'll have time

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Speaker 1: to watch both, and I'll probably choose Bachelor in Paradise

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Speaker 1: over Big Brother.

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Speaker 2: But I want to.

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Speaker 1: Give it some more time to see if it does

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Speaker 1: get any better. I do like the preview we saw

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Speaker 1: last night of the new housemates coming in and the

514
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Speaker 1: King and Queen aka Talia and Daniel getting.

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Speaker 2: Quite upset about it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of territorial behavior going

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Speaker 1: on that could be quite interesting. Yeah, I'm not a

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Speaker 1: big fan of Tylier at this stage. I found her

519
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Speaker 1: a little bit clicky and a bit ridiculous that she

520
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Speaker 1: was going off about the fact that they were originals. Honey,

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Speaker 1: you've been there for like two days. Anyway, it was

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Speaker 1: a lot to unpack. I am disappointed that we weren't

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Speaker 1: happier with it, but I think you've got to give

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Speaker 1: it a couple more episodes. You know what, I'd be

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Speaker 1: highly disappointed if I had signed up for Big Brother

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: I would just not want to go, and I would

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Speaker 2: never do that.

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Speaker 1: So no, but back in the day. I would have

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Speaker 1: loved to have been a big brother. I thought it

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Speaker 1: would be so cool, except for the whole having to

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Speaker 1: go to the toilet in front of cameras and showering

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Speaker 1: nude or whatever. Oh open showers. This year they haven't

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Speaker 1: really made that a big thing. But they did have

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Speaker 1: Garth I think his name is. He was the intruder.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about that.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 1: He had to sneak out because they were trying not

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Speaker 1: to be seen by the housemates, and they showed him

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Speaker 1: winging like you know, obviously with a booth around him, but.

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Speaker 2: You could hear the noise. I say. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: do you be really bad?

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Speaker 1: Like back in the day, you know, and they used

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Speaker 1: to have the people writing down every word they said

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Speaker 1: the editor or sorry produces.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, you could not get away with doing

547
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Speaker 2: a secret fart.

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Speaker 1: Could you, because you think people write it down. No,

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Speaker 1: but like as in people, we'd hear it. You're micd

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Speaker 1: up twenty four seven people are writing everything people say,

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Speaker 1: your whole twenty four hours being monitored. I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't even go away to the toilet.

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Speaker 2: How is that different this year? But I just was

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Speaker 2: thinking how horrifying. Do you know what, I'm sure everyone's

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Speaker 2: doing it.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what they didn't have this year was

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Speaker 1: the walk through of the house. You know when Gretel

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Speaker 1: or Sonya used to throw all the different areas.

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Speaker 2: Here's the camera. I loved that.

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Speaker 1: Talking about hosts, what do you guys think if Sonya

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Speaker 1: compared to Gretel Because I'm an og Gretel Colleen fan.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, sorry, I have to butt in that

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Speaker 1: Marissa the sixty year old in there. Someone in our

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Speaker 1: group has pointed this out. She looks like Gretel Colleen

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Speaker 1: with a blonde wig on. Yes, I actually from our groups.

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Speaker 1: I actually saw a screenshot of and I was like,

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Speaker 1: when did Gretel go in? And then I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's her. She seems pretty cool. I love the in

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Speaker 1: her addition, she was asking about her hair, dryer and

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Speaker 1: makeup like that would be me. Just back to what

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Speaker 1: people are bringing in. How the hell did Ian fit

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Speaker 1: everything in that backpack? And then he brought that massive

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Speaker 1: squidness and then all the presents for everyone that were

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Speaker 1: like rocks that no one would want. I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: he's just going to be wearing different shirts and shorts

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Speaker 1: there's not that much for a man to bring in.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think you'd be very high maintenance. Just quickly

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Speaker 1: back to the hosts, what what do you guys think? Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's no comparison. I mean, oh, sorry, I forgot to

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Speaker 1: add that Kyle and Jackie O were also hosted. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's forget about them. Gretel Colleen. They should have brought

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Speaker 1: her back. She was amazing. Sonya is not too bad.

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Speaker 1: She's definitely better than Kyle and Jackie. Oh. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: actually thought Sonya's been quite good because when she has

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Speaker 1: a little interviews with their whilst they're waiting to be evicted,

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Speaker 1: she seemed to ask the difficult questions. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what I loved when Gretel Colleen was on because she'd

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Speaker 1: always sort of ask really cheeky questions.

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Speaker 2: And does everyone remember.

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Speaker 1: She actually hooked up with that really young guy Saxon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: has that blonde hottie that was in the house. Oh,

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Speaker 1: she's just such a good host. I mean, remember when

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Speaker 1: was it Marlon came out and he did the protest

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Speaker 1: for the refugee That was pretty amazing for the time,

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Speaker 1: and she was just so good. It would have been

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Speaker 1: so hard to do that whole interview with someone refusing

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Speaker 1: to speak for something over their mouth, but she did

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Speaker 1: a great job of it. She was very professional. Well

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Speaker 1: that's probably all we've got time for. But we will

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Speaker 1: be talking more about Big Brother and any other reality

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Speaker 1: shows that up in our Facebook group, So come over

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00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: there and join in the nightly threads we'll be having

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Speaker 1: because we'd love to hear your thoughts. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: might not be as vocal because I may give it

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Speaker 1: a miss soon, but.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how we will push through.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for listening and indulging our Big

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Speaker 1: Brother love and if you did enjoy hate and if

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Speaker 1: you did enjoy the podcast, we'd really love if you

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Speaker 1: could leave us a review because it really does help

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Speaker 1: us out.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much,