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Speaker 1: Put on your dance and shiites.

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Speaker 2: Let's give me your best shot from Mumma Me is canceled.

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Speaker 2: Podcast Kleave Stevens is here.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, I've got some sad news this morning. It's

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Speaker 3: not a light happy that's entertainment today, it's a sad one.

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Speaker 3: So singer, rapper, and actor Aaron Carter was found dead

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Speaker 3: in his California home on Saturday morning, age just thirty four. Now, Aaron,

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Speaker 3: there's been a bit of confusion around which one Aaron

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Speaker 3: Carter is, and so he rose to fame when he

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Speaker 3: was nine. He released his first album and opened for

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Speaker 3: the Backstreet Boys, the world famous band that included his

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Speaker 3: older brother Nick.

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Speaker 1: When the Nick's in Backstreet Boys.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Nick has done a bit more, he's been more,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the media and that sort of thing

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Speaker 3: since doing Backstreet Boys. But for me, when I was

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Speaker 3: a teenager, Aaron Carter was the one on everyone's walls.

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Speaker 2: All the posts. He was in your wheelhouse he.

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Speaker 3: Was, and his shaggy blonde hair. Everyone just thought he

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Speaker 3: was gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: But he had trouble, didn't he.

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Speaker 3: He did, so he rose to this massive level of

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Speaker 3: stardom really really young. By the time he was sixteen,

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Speaker 3: he'd released four albums, He had a family reality show

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Speaker 3: and was in shows like Lizzie Maguire and Sabrina the

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Speaker 3: Teenage Witch, which that was my adolescent yep, And so

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Speaker 3: I think think of him as the early two thousands

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Speaker 3: version of Justin Bieber. He then went on to date

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Speaker 3: people like Lindsay Loewen and Hillary Duff. But in interviews

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Speaker 3: he said that as he entered adulthood he developed a

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Speaker 3: huffing addiction, which I had to look up what that

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Speaker 3: was because it's a form of inhalent abuse, right, So

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Speaker 3: he talked about that and as he kind.

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Speaker 2: Of the spray cans and stuff. Yeah, chroaming, don't do it.

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Speaker 3: That's what he says, But it looks like it was

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Speaker 3: probably a lot more severe than that. So as he

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Speaker 3: entered adulthood he seemed to kind of disappear off the scene.

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Speaker 3: In twenty seventeen, he made headlines when he was arrested

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Speaker 3: for driving under the influence and being in possession of drugs.

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Speaker 3: He was in and out of rehab, and then in

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen he appeared on the US TV show The Doctors.

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Speaker 3: Have you guys ever seen that? No, it's a weird

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Speaker 3: It's almost like doctor Oz vibes. It's a weird show.

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Speaker 3: The clip's been going around on the weekend and it's

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Speaker 3: Aaron Carter showing all the medications he takes, but he's

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Speaker 3: saying they're all prescription, but he was taking opiates and

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Speaker 3: benzodiazepines and saying that it was to treat his multiple

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Speaker 3: personality disorder as schizophrenia and anxiety. So very sad him

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Speaker 3: trying to say, I'm healthy, These are all the things

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Speaker 3: I meant to be on. But then that year, his

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Speaker 3: brother Nick and his twin sister Angel said they had

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Speaker 3: taken out a restraining order against Aaron because of his

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Speaker 3: increasingly alarming behavior. And there was some horrible allegations that

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Speaker 3: Aaron had confessed to harboring thoughts and intents of killing

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Speaker 3: Nick's wife and child. It was just a horrible time.

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Speaker 3: Then Aaron comes out on Twitter and says some distressing

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Speaker 3: things about his childhood, that he was sexually abused. But

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Speaker 3: he also seemed to be in a manic state, sort

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Speaker 3: of like Kanyate at the moment, where you don't know

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Speaker 3: what to believe and what not to believe. In twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: he met a woman named Melanie. They had a son together.

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Speaker 3: They broke up in twenty twenty one, and in September

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Speaker 3: of this year he checked into rehab in order to

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Speaker 3: regain custody of his son, and then obviously in November

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Speaker 3: he passed away.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, when he got that big face tattoo, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think when someone gets a face tattoo, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I think the decision making is not yes.

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Speaker 1: But isn't this interesting? This is often the time a

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Speaker 1: child performer trying to move into the adult world. It's

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Speaker 1: not an easy transition.

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Speaker 4: And if you're not familiar with Aaron Carter, Amanda would

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Speaker 4: be more like Andy Gibb if you could relate it

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Speaker 4: like with the Beg's Andy Gibber like heart attack at

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Speaker 4: the age of thirty two or something.

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Speaker 1: But his younger brother of the GI.

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Speaker 2: He was always in the periphery and a.

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Speaker 1: Big, big pinup boy and.

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Speaker 2: Issues.

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Speaker 3: And why do we think it is that these young

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Speaker 3: people who rise to fame so young seem to have

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Speaker 3: mental health issues, substance like additions. It just like especially

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Speaker 3: of Aaron Carter's generation, Lindsay Lowe and Britney Spears, Macaulay Culkin,

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Speaker 3: Amanda Bynes, is another one who just has had all

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Speaker 3: these issues, and it sort of seems like fame at

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Speaker 3: that age is a curse. And I don't know what

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Speaker 3: we can do to help those people.

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Speaker 4: We can remember Aaron Carter and Aaron's party.

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Speaker 1: Is that him singing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just Tim going bust to move?

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Speaker 3: He was so young, so young.

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Speaker 1: Because you grew up with him on your wall. How

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Speaker 1: is this making you feel?

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Speaker 3: I felt I was shocked yesterday when I saw the headline,

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Speaker 3: and then I kind of realized, Oh, he was strug

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Speaker 3: for years and years. But it is. It is weird

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Speaker 3: when somebody, you know, not a couple of years older

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Speaker 3: than you is and you're right, was just kind of

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Speaker 3: starting to transition into adulthood. But you just look at

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Speaker 3: look at him from adolescents and think he had no chance.

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Speaker 1: What a sad story.

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Speaker 4: Claire's going to go and get a face tattoo in memory,

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Speaker 4: and Claire has bombshell news.

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Speaker 2: Today is Claire's last appearance on our show.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to hear this, but it's for the

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Speaker 1: best reasons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some exciting stuff coming up, some projects and I'm

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Speaker 3: working on a book I've got I'm working on a

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Speaker 3: TV show. There's lots of things happening so last time

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Speaker 3: on here, but I hope we'll still be friends, guys.

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Speaker 2: I hope so. And I've loved it.

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Speaker 1: I love your brain and I like how you can

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Speaker 1: take popular culture and put it in the context. Thats

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Speaker 1: something I've really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to take your place. Can we

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Speaker 2: get Jesse?

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Speaker 3: She's also a busy coal.

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Speaker 1: We just do a little swapsy Brendon, You're going to

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Speaker 1: have to be across the popular culture on this.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to do it. I'm happy to do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to face tattoo in honor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he can do it.

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Speaker 1: Well. Thank you for everything here. I know you're going

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Speaker 1: to put some great.

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Speaker 2: Ventures look after yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

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