1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Two Good Sports would like to acknowledge the traditional owners 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: of the land on which we record this podcast. That 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: will rundery people. This land was never seeded, always was, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: always will be. Hello and welcome to two Good Sports 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Sports news told differently. I'm Georgie Tunny. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: And I'm maybe Jelmian. On today's show, I am very sad. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: Firstly, I just wanted to say how lucky and privileged 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: I've been to have been able to represent Australia and 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: play the game that I love for so long. To 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: be able to do it for thirteen years, being part 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: of a really special team for so long and working 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: together with them has been It's been my life essentially 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: for thirteen years. I know nothing other than that. 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Dear listener. What you didn't see during that very emotional 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: press conference from Meg Lanning, the former Australian cricketer and 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: cricket captain, is Gelmy throwing her arms around, swinging around 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: in her chair, trying not to cry because she's emotional. 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: Given us so much, so much, and as she alluded 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: to there after thirteen years and two hundred and forty 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: one games for Australia, one hundred and eighty two of 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: them as captain Megan Moira Lanning what a name, has 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: stepped away from the international game, retiring at the tender 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: age of thirty one, which is like an infant in 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: cricket really is. 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: Cricket is one of those sports where if you're good enough, 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: you can probably go into mid thirties, which makes you 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: geriatric by an athlete's you know, standing. But thirty one 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: just seems so so young, especially for someone like Meg. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: It's wild that I think that we're having this conversation 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and I look into Jelmy's pretty little eyes there's almost 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: tears there. You're genuinely so affected by this news. 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: We I love I love women's cricket, you know this. 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: It's one of the highlights of my career, has been 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: covering cricket and WBBL and I just think with Meg, 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: she may well be one of the best captains across 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: any code. You and I didn't start a sports podcast 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: to be two girls talking about sport, being like, don't 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: you hate those blokes? But if Meg Lanning was a bloke, 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: she would be one of the most recognizable faces in 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: the country. And it's not what she would want, but 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: I want to spend today, Yes, doing it, this is 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: your life, and talking about her career, but talking about 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: her legacy, what she leaves, who is going to be 44 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: filling those enormous shoes, and remembering just how bloody good 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: she use. 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: Meg Lanning, what a superstar first headlines Headline one. 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 4: You know, to play for the national team, it's a 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: reward and you get rewarded to play, and you know 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: everyone's on the same amount of money and share as well, 50 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 4: so it really is a making sure it's a competitive 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: environment and that's really. 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: Exciting equality with the men. 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: That was Lydia Williams, the Matilda's keeper, talking to Fox 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: Sports News there after the huge announcement during the week 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: that the Mathildas and the Soccer Us have settled on 56 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,279 Speaker 1: a new CBO collective Bargaining agreement which should see Matilda's 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: players receiving an increase of up to eighty thousand dollars 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: per year, potentially on top of their club salaries and 59 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: tournament prize money. So they're moving away from a centralized 60 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: model and they are taking into consideration ramping up the 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: player payments per match fees. When you play for your country, 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: you should be entitled to a greater fee and some 63 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: of that is going to include the revenue that your 64 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: team is generating in football in Australia. 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: Some of the inclusions in this deal blew my mind. 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: Mostly it was like you get your own room. Oh 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: you would think. 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get to fight business by business. 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably probably need somewhere to stretch your legs when 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: you're like, there were some things in here right, I 72 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: just went, yes, I would like to not have to 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: listen to a teammate snore, yes when I'm going to 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: take a penalty tomorrow if possible, or to have your 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: own space anyway, we love to see it well. Also, 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: though I think it would be confusing for lots of 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: people given what we've seen throughout the year. People would 78 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: be genuinely perplexed that the Matildas were still so far 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: off parody when it came to their relationship or their 80 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: earnings in comparison to the soccer Roofs. Because yes, the 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: soccer rows have some games coming up and we'll all 82 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: get around them again as well, but really the Matildas 83 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: are the brand that everyone wants to. 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: Be a part of. 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: And speaking of being part of a union, congratulations Sam 86 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: cur onm finally announcing your engagement. 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: It was the worst case secret in world football. 88 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: Chas Mures is just walking around with the ring and 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: everyone's like anyone else seeing that. 90 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Also gigantic rock. Good thing she's an athlete her, but 91 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: huge congratulations. I think everyone remembers seeing them both representing 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: their country US being from the US at the Olympics 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: and that was quite cool. And from one year going 94 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: winless to the next year winning an elimination final water ride, If. 95 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: It's beating for the Sydney Swans, I'm on the train. 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 97 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: But it's more the Swans were just friendless last season. Yes, 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: it was terrible, and they are in a market where 99 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: footy is just punching up because it is difficult to 100 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: get any sort of gravity or movement in Sydney around 101 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: AFL let alone AFLW. But the Swan's won on the 102 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: golf cos they won, They're alive. 103 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: They won and that means that they are through to 104 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: the next round of finals their very first finals series 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: fifty eight points to forty one over The Sun's Chloe molloy, 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: of course, once again a superstar. Apparently there was someone 107 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: in the crowd that was yelling at her when she 108 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: was setting up. 109 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 5: For kicks, girl. 110 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Going to two four six eight, you can't kick straight, 111 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and so then she took your joke, yeah sorry. 112 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: With their parents, with their parents there to supervise them. 113 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: Then their school yard chance takes this set shot and 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: she just turns around and like starts motioning to the 115 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: crowd and she does the hand signals for two four 116 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: six eight and then she just like slams like a 117 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: ten and she's like, yeah, babe, I can do it. 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: I could do it, which was just wonderful. That's the 119 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: characters that you want to see and you want to 120 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: see them put on this gigantic platform which afl W 121 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: is slowly carving out for itself. So wins to Sydney. 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: In the other results over the weekend, the second elimination 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: final was Geelong Essendon, the Bomber's first final series as well. 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: It was short lived, though they bowed out the Cats. 125 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: One still haven't won a final of any variety men's 126 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: women's in seven thousand days. 127 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's still still the drought continues. The drought 128 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: lips on. This was the biggest clash of the weekend, 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: though Adelaide up against Brisbane, the two most winningest teams 130 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: in this competition ever, and the Lions my Brisbane the 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: bragging right, so they held out for a two point 132 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: win in Adelaide, which is key. So now I think 133 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the Lions are actually favorites to win the flag. And 134 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: then in the second qualifying final Melbourne got. 135 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: Huge upset dumped Fine North Melbourne. 136 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Fifty points to nine against all sorts. 137 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: Of recent history because usually Melbourne absolutely have the number 138 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: of it. 139 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: They're the defending champions as well, so they've lost back 140 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: to back. Now they lost in round ten, they've lost 141 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: this final. That means that they have to go through 142 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: to the semis do or die for them and they 143 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: will be taking on the Cats who are in really 144 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: good form in the other semi as Adelaide up against 145 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: our Sydneys ones. Also, very briefly, Ron Barrassi, I'm going 146 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: to call him the grandfather of AFL Aussie rules, at 147 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: least when it comes to strategy and coaching in this country. 148 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: He was on it at a state memorial service at 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: the MCG last week and a lot of famous faces there, 150 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, just football grates there to 151 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: pay their respects to someone that the game loved so 152 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: much and will miss terribly. 153 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: Just a fierce competitor, a wonderful man, and it was 154 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: done so well. 155 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: So vallet Ron brassy headline three. 156 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: It was a stranger because I was cramping in one 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: of my toes, which was sort of going up the 158 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 6: front of my shin, and then as I sort of 159 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 6: set off to try and get down the other end, 160 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 6: I cramped him that calf as well. So I was 161 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 6: cramping both sides of my lower leg and as I went, oh, no, 162 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 6: I'm cramping, I cramped in my left hand string at 163 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 6: the same time. So I was like, I've got both 164 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 6: legs and then I had a back spasm when I 165 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 6: hit the ground. 166 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell, take a bow if you could, but he 167 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: could not. He was physically spent at the Cricket World Cup. 168 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: What does it say about me as a person that 169 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: every time I saw him on the ground writhing around 170 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: him pain, I just couldn't stop laughing. 171 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 5: He looked like a salmon, and he himself made that gag. 172 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: So after he's posted what was a double century one 173 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: of the most spectacular, if not being argued the most 174 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: spectacular innings that we will ever see from any cricketer ever. 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: But it just happens to be an Australian and an 176 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: ODI World Cup. He then posts a photo of himself 177 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: lying on the ground, saying, never go full salmon, what. 178 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: Which I mean? The pictures are seriously hilarious. I encourage you, 179 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: dear listener, to go and find them. But the context 180 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: of this is he was cramping so badly full body cramps, 181 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: that he just decided, well. 182 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: He almost didn't make it out there. He was in 183 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: so much pain to eage goes through the innings. 184 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: He couldn't run, He couldn't run, he couldn't use any footwork. 185 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Eventually he just started smacking it over the fence. He's like, legs, 186 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: don't need them. 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: It was an unbeaten two hundred and one of just 188 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty eight deliveries. 189 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: We'll never see it again. We will never see an 190 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: innings like that again. 191 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: One of those innings that you can watch over and 192 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: over again. It still becomes more unbelievable. Yes, and he 193 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: is changing the that people bat. 194 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was in the game against Afghanistan. The 195 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: tournament goes on because Australia's also played against Bangladesh since 196 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: then and defeated them, And that was when Maxwell had 197 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: to be rested, but it was fine because we brought 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: back Mitch Marsh who scored one hundred and seventy seven 199 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: not out. 200 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: Do you know what is wonderful? We are out of 201 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 5: the group stages people, Oh my god. 202 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: But what is not so great for Australia is that 203 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: we are taking on South Africa. Remember last time we 204 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: played South Africa, that was in one of the first 205 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: two matches that we lost horrendously. It was a second 206 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: match and they beat us by a record margin. 207 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Ah right, that was. 208 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: When everyone was throwing their toys out of the cot 209 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: saying Australia can't play cricket. 210 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 5: Well, we've done a one eighty. 211 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: However, they're going to have to overcome recent history in 212 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: order to progress. 213 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 214 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: Also thoughts and prayers with New Zealand because they're up 215 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: against India in the other semi final and we would 216 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 1: like them to beat India because if we beat South Africa, 217 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,239 Speaker 1: we don't have to face India. 218 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: If India don't win this tournament. 219 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: Royal commission for them to why, as cricket fans, they 220 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: just deserve it. I just love seeing all the crowds 221 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: over there. I love seeing how the fans embrace India 222 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: and having them be the hosts of this tournament as well. 223 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: It just would not have been the same spectacle anywhere 224 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: else in them. They have not dropped a game, of 225 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: course they haven't. Well, if Australia needs a pep talk 226 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: in how to win World Cups, they could give former 227 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: Ossie captain Meg Lanning your favorite person a call. She's 228 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: got seven of them. She's also got a little bit 229 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: more free time after she announced her retirement. Jelmy breathe. 230 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: That's the most World Cups out of any captain ever. 231 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: She announced her retirement from international duties this week. We're 232 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna tell you why next and we're also going to 233 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: do a welfare check on Abby Jelmy. The older I get, Jelmy, 234 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: the more retrospective I get. And I tend to look 235 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: at athletes glittering careers with melancholy, because when they decide 236 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: to go pro, is that when they start thinking about 237 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: how fine night such a career path is being an athlete, 238 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: being a sportsperson Or do those thoughts come later? Is 239 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: it after their first serious injury or is it after 240 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: the latest major heartache when they consider giving it away. 241 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: Athletes are also in the unique position where they're about 242 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: the only people that have to think about retirement twice. 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they can lead two lives, two significant lives, 244 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: throughout the lifespan of just one person. I think it's 245 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: a really brutal life that athletes probably don't get enough 246 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: credit for, because there are obviously perks when you are 247 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: at the top of the game, but there's also a 248 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: lot of life holding discussions, decisions that are made so 249 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: much earlier than normal jobs and made for you or 250 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: made for you. Do you get to go out on top? 251 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Do you get to have agency over when you want 252 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: to hang up the boots, put the bad away. As 253 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: sports fans, there are also retirements that stick with you, 254 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: certain players that affect you far more than others when 255 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: they announced that they are done, because you, as a fan, 256 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: you're not done. You'll love for them. Could go on 257 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: eternally for me. Names like Susie O'Neil, Darren Lockyer, Ash Barty, 258 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: ash Ash Barty World Number one. You give me back 259 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: my heart, Ash, you took it, You took it from me. 260 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: Roger. 261 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: She looks really happy, but we were so sad with Roger. 262 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: That was the end of an era that was the 263 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: world needed a day of morning then, and we knew 264 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: it was coming, and we had like five knowing it 265 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: was coming, and yet there was not a single person 266 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: that didn't go into hysterics. Yeah, we were crying like 267 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: rafa nadal. And then there's a little lady named Meghan 268 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: Moira Lanning. 269 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: There's a few people who I've to thank. Firstly Mum 270 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: and Dad who are here. Am I family, no right 271 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 3: the emotions with you, and they've always been there to 272 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: support me no matter what, and I'm very thankful for that. 273 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 6: So thank you. 274 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: Okay, no more upsorts for the rest of this podcast, 275 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: because I actually can't. 276 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: I can't handle that. 277 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: If that went on for another four seconds more. Just Puddle. 278 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: A seven times World Cup winner, five of them as captain, 279 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: a Comnwell's Games gold medalist, her CV is beyond impressive. 280 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: Cricket has been her life and we feel like we've 281 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: watched her grow up because she first came onto the 282 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: stage for many of us while still in high school. 283 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: She was making national news. 284 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: And now she's decided to give it all away at 285 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: thirty one, at least on the international stage. And I 286 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: am still in mourning so let I think you can deny. 287 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: How many stages of grief. I feel like you've done anger, 288 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: you've had that moment, you've cried, but you still you're 289 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: in denial. There's no acceptance yet. 290 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 5: She made sixty seven, not out yesterday for the Stars, 291 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: Like she's still playing. 292 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: You're like, she's still so good, but I'm just never 293 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: going to see in green and gold again. 294 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is tough. That's really tough. 295 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: And I think the thing is it's different when you 296 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: watch a player like cool come and collector be like, 297 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: look it's time for me, I'm out. Thank You'll see 298 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: you never, or if you're expecting it, if it's a 299 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: Roger Federer and you know their time is coming. With 300 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: Meg Lanning, we will waiting being like, well, Lisa, heally 301 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: might be broken, but thank god. 302 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 303 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: The captain, the rudder, the rudder. She has been the 304 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: rudder of the Australian women's cricket team for her entire career, 305 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: not just when she became captain, even though she did 306 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: become captain when she was a child, but for her 307 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: whole career. She has steadied the ship through any kind 308 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: of inclement weather. She has been the person that gets 309 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: that team through and to retire from international cricket at 310 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: thirty one when players of her similar ilk Alisa Heay, 311 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: Elise Perry, they're two years older than her, I know, 312 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: and they're still going round. So we were lured into 313 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: this false sense of security that we were going to 314 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: see Meg for a while to come. 315 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 5: Yet the reason why I. 316 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: Love her is that I just feel like I've watched 317 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: her for so long and she first she was born 318 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: in Singapore. 319 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 5: Firstly one of five children. 320 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: See that surprises me as well. She gives such single 321 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: child energy. 322 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: The fourth of five and her younger sister Anna actually 323 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: played in the WBBL. 324 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, so she played for the Stars and 325 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: the Renegade. Yeah cute. 326 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: She played hockey, she played AFL and she declared when 327 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: she was younger that she wanted to win gold for 328 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: Australia in hockey. Ha, you would do that in cricket, 329 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: which would have been a real head scratcher then because of. 330 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: Don't be dumb, Meg a Commonwealth game sport. 331 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: But anyway, as we know now, is cricket that won 332 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: her attention, and Hartch began playing organized cricket at just 333 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: ten years old. 334 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: She idolized Ricky Ponting. 335 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: That makes so much sense to me because Ricky Ponting, 336 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: I would say, is well, he had flair when he 337 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: was on the pitch and that pool shot, I mean, 338 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: come on, it's beautiful. Also bat at number three where 339 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Meg wanted to bat, where Meg bats, and that makes 340 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: sense I think. And also leadership, yes, I mean I 341 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: think of Ricky Ponting as one of Australia's best captains 342 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: and that is totally Meg as well. 343 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: And also it was the only cricket you could watch, yeah, 344 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 2: at our age. Growing up, the women's cricket wasn't prevalent, 345 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: so if you were going to have a cricketing idol, 346 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: it probably wasn't going to be Belinda Clark that you 347 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: were watching and sitting down and watching with your family. 348 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: Like many of her peers, she grew up playing mostly 349 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: with boys teams because there were very scarce male teams. 350 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: Like Sam Kerr anyone Hello Hello. 351 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: She represented New South Wales at a primary school level 352 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: growing up around Sydney, and then when Meg started high 353 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: school her family moved to Melbourne. She quite famously attended 354 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: Kerry Baptist Grammar in Q where at fourteen years old. 355 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 5: I love this. 356 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: She became the first girl to play in the first 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: eleven get Rep team. So firstly, she's fourteen and there 358 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: are kids there that are seventeen eighteen that are still 359 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: at high school. She then makes the team where she 360 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: is the only girl, and there was revolt, of course, 361 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: there was from some parents saying, what do you mean 362 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: as a girl playing in my son's team? 363 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 5: What do you mean? What do you mean? She was 364 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 5: a bloody star even at that age. 365 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: And prodigious talent was on display. 366 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: Well that's when, and God love her. She made the 367 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: open Victorian women's team at sixteen years old. 368 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: Oh wow wow. 369 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: And she talks about again we're talking about someone retiring 370 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: at thirty one. She said cricket got serious for her 371 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: at sixteen. 372 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: Chees, which we do see is a common thread with 373 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: a lot of our top female athletes in particular. But 374 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: let's just take it back to pleb status for a second. 375 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: Imagine you and I being sixteen years of age and deciding, okay, 376 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: well you know what social life by grades, bye, dedicating 377 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: myself wholly to cricket, which at that stage didn't really 378 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: have the same platform that it does now that she 379 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: and this team have given it. 380 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: At sixteen years of age. 381 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: I was too busy on my NOOKI thirty three fifteen 382 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: voting your now fiance through Australian idol. 383 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 5: That was my priority was making sure that. 384 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: Robert Millsey Mills survived and got to produce a mis vanity. 385 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: I was not anywhere near her career pathway. And when 386 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: you think about how young we were, she's thinking about cricket. 387 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: He's thinking about cricket and how she can turn that 388 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: into a cam. 389 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 5: Worried about is Shelle necklace and singing angels? 390 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 3: What do that mean? 391 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: That eyebrow ring was a good idea. 392 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 5: The twists and turns of lies. 393 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: However, Meg Lanning at sixteen was already thinking about cricket 394 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: and made her international cricket debut at eighteen years old. Wow, 395 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: she's Australia's youngest ever played to score a century at 396 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: eighteen years and two hundred and eighty eight days. 397 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 5: Do you know who she beat? Ricky Ponting. 398 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: See that's the at twenty one, that's the stuff I love. 399 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: So she'd beat him by three She didn't just beat him, 400 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: she'd bet him by three years. Like she smashed Ricky 401 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: ponting her idol and I have heard her in interviews 402 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: since she said that she's met him a couple of times. Yeah, 403 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: played it like she's. 404 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 5: Like super casually met Ricky a couple of times. 405 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Fine, everything's fine, it's good. 406 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 5: Me and a dog were great. 407 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: She made her ODI debut against England in twenty eleven 408 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: and then in only a second game she's got one 409 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: hundred and three runs, becoming the youngest Australian male or 410 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: female to score an international century. Bloody hell, we're in 411 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: the Men's Cricket World Cup at the moment. Think about 412 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: how loud it was when Glenn Maxwell had the fastest 413 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: ODI ton. 414 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 415 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: Do you know who held that until Glenn had? It? 416 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: Was it Meg? It was Meg Lanning. 417 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: It was your Meg. 418 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 5: It was Meg. 419 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: Because in twenty twelve and an ODII ton off forty 420 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: five balls. 421 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: So we talk about Glenn Maxwell doing big show things. Yes, really, 422 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: Meg Lanning was the biggest show in world cricket. 423 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 424 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: And she talks about that day and hitting that ton 425 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: and saying it was just one of those times where 426 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: everything she tried came off and by her own admission, 427 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: she's like, I've never batted like that again. Yeah, I've 428 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: never experienced what that was like. Again, but at the 429 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: time it was sensational. And again, all of these moments 430 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: led to her just being someone who her talent was 431 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: just exceptional. 432 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: It's the talent that she had and that she showed 433 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: from the age of ten that cemented her in that team. 434 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: She would have been the first one picked for decades. 435 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 5: So much so that she became captain at twenty one. 436 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: Imagine the confidence you have to have any young talent 437 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: to appoint them a captain at twenty one. 438 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: Because in cricket the captain very important. It's not a 439 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: token roll is no, not at all. You know, stops 440 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: with the captain onfield and off. 441 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: I think Shane warn famously said once the coach is 442 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 5: something that you at the field. 443 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the captain, the captain makes all the judgment 444 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: and to be doing that at twenty one. And it 445 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: wasn't all sunshine rainbows because twenty seventeen was particularly difficult 446 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 2: for Meg. She underwent a shoulder reconstruction and that was 447 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: after Australia's shock exit from the ODR World Cup. Everyone 448 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: expected Australia to dominate. It ended up being England and 449 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: India in the final, and there was a very dejected 450 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: Meg Lanning just kind of going, I don't really know 451 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: what to say. Here, we'll go, we'll do some soul searching, 452 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: we'll come back stronger. And she had to take some 453 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: time out from the game, and she speaks about why 454 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: that made her such a better leader, because previously she 455 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: had never known what it was like to be on 456 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: the outside as someone who got selected from eighteen. Her 457 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 2: spot was always there, it was always secure, and then 458 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, even though she was still the 459 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: current captain and she was injured, she felt like she 460 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: was sitting back and having to watch others play the 461 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: game that she loved. And she said it gave me 462 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: so much empathy for those battling for their spots that 463 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: aren't always in the eleven, that may not feel like 464 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: they're part of the group, and it just helped her 465 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: be able to put herself in someone else's shoes, because 466 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: when you are There was a period there where she 467 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: won three or four Bloonda Clark medals. Wild was so 468 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: far and beyond the best player in the world. 469 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: Isn't that then, I think just epitomizes her as a leader. Yes, 470 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: because We praise her for obviously what she can do 471 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: with the bat, but what we're talking about in terms 472 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: of a conversation and legacy that she should have is 473 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: potentially she might be the greatest captain that we have 474 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: ever seen in this country, we have ever produced across 475 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: coats because someone who is so talented, it is sometimes 476 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: hard for them to be able to relate to people 477 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: who are struggling and to be able to build that 478 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: team morale. But what you're telling me is that Meg 479 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: seems to be able to do it easily. 480 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 5: Does it easily and just does it because it's her. 481 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, she emerged better than ever before, leading Australia to 482 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: win the twenty eighteen and twenty twenty t twenty World Cups. 483 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I remember that. 484 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I remember the twenty twenty World Cup. 485 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: We were there, She's on stage hugging Katie Berry and 486 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: you and I are dancing in the stands, and then 487 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: the world locked down for three years. Well then the 488 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two One Day World Cup they claimed a 489 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: world record of twenty six ODI victories consecutively. 490 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: It's incredible that all of this came under her tenure. 491 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: Australia had an eighty percent win rate under her stewardship. 492 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 5: It dwarfs any other figure that you can find for 493 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 5: a leader in cricket in this country. You can look 494 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 5: at the stats and you can look at her career 495 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 5: and go, yeah, but why do we love her? How 496 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 5: do we love her? This is why listen to what 497 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 5: her teammates say about her. 498 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I actually remember making from primary school days. 499 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 7: We played in some primary school competitions together, and she's 500 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 7: just always super talented, just like a determined character. 501 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 8: She's just an incredible leader, especially like when you're at 502 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 8: top of mark. 503 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 7: She's so calming, which rubs off. 504 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 8: I think that's really helpful when you're out there. 505 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 7: When you've got ball in hand and she comes over 506 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 7: and she doesn't actually have much to say, but she 507 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 7: just says just to take time. It's sort of things 508 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 7: like that where she really cares about you as a player. 509 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 7: And that's something that I really loved. He knew that 510 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 7: you could turn to her and she'd have the right 511 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 7: thing to say. She's pure class and she's someone that 512 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 7: you love having on your team. 513 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 8: The real met can have a laugh. I push her 514 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 8: buttons probably a little bit more than anyone else. And 515 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 8: try and be more affectionate with her, and now it's 516 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 8: got to the point that she even gives me voluntary hugs. 517 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 8: So I've had to work for this for ten years, 518 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 8: but we've got there. 519 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 5: Off the fields, she's definitely not as serious as well. 520 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 5: Some may think she's pretty cheeky Meg. 521 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Okay, this is now a public apology from me to 522 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: Meg Lanning because I've always loved your work on the field, 523 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: and it seems like I've sold you a little bit 524 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: short off the field because real Meg sounds fun. 525 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. 526 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: Is that all the fact that her teammates use the 527 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: phrase the real Meg, it was the media Meg. And 528 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: also when Meg Lanning walked out to bat, there was 529 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: this expression like about to get shit done. Yeah, but 530 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: that was performance Meg. That was Captain Meg. Yes, the 531 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: real Meg. I use air quotations there, but the real 532 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: Meg has a laugh. 533 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Loves going for a walk, loves jokes, loves I just 534 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: think there was this real Meg that existed within the 535 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: confines of that team. 536 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 5: And as she said in Oppressor, Cricket's all she's ever known. 537 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: So why is she leaving it? 538 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: She has taken very well publicized break over the past 539 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: year she's been waiting on tables in a Melbourne cafe 540 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: and I think that it's given her a chance to 541 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: sample life outside of cricket and when cricket is all 542 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: you've ever known, or anything is all you've ever known, 543 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: and it would be the thing that she was known 544 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: for from the age. 545 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: Of ten, which means that every conversation, even in passing, 546 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: that you have with someone is about what you do, 547 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: not about who you. 548 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 5: Are, and trying to. 549 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: Unlink those ideas and discover who you are as the person. 550 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: And you think you know you and I from her 551 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 5: vintage some. 552 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: Closer, you're thirty two, one, thirty three and make thirty one. 553 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: You think about the growth that you've been through in 554 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: the past ten years and the autonomy that you've had 555 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: as a person to make decisions over your own life, 556 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: to grow in a direction that reflects you. 557 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 5: She has not had that. 558 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: Her life's kind of been planned out, hasn't it. Every 559 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: single morning she wakes up, there's a schedule in place. 560 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: And now she's just asked her well, she's asked the 561 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: world to accept and you and me to accept that 562 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: she might be done forget that. 563 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 5: I think what is on the horizon. That's probably prompted. 564 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: This is out tour of India which is coming up 565 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: into some now and given Alicia hay is currently out 566 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: of the game because of that vicious dog a attack 567 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: to million billion whatever. 568 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 5: Her toos her too Staffy is here called. 569 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 2: Everyone was going, oh, it's a right Megelbi back and 570 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: I think that that's probably prompted her to just go. 571 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 5: And she was just on it. 572 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: She's like, I just don't have the fire to get 573 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: up and to give everything that I need to to 574 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: perform at that level. Yes, wbbl shaw, but representing my 575 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: country and leading my country, that desire isn't there anymore. 576 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 5: And you just say thank you. 577 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: What state does megh Lanning leave the game in? She 578 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: owes it absolutely nothing. 579 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: I think the women's cricket is in the best position 580 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: it's been ever. I think about that twenty twenty World 581 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: Cup and what that did. 582 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: It was Matilda's esque, Yes it was. 583 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 584 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: We're seeing players like Ash Gardner getting paid well over 585 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: half a million dollars to play in the IPL internationally. 586 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: Is that direct result of meg Lanning? You could argue 587 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: that it is because the dominance of the Australian side, 588 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: including your Elise Perry, who was allowed to just be 589 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: Elease Perry because she didn't have to lead. Elisa Healy 590 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: same same. These are two players that that leadership would 591 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: have fallen to in the wake of not having Meg there, 592 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: But she has shouldered that. 593 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: Is she the best cricket captain we've ever seen? 594 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean my mind goes to automatically, I think Steve War, 595 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: I think Ricky Ponting, but I think Steve Ware. But 596 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: I think that that's more the team itself was just 597 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: that generational team that was never going to lose to anyone. 598 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: So I think there is a serious argument to have 599 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: her at the top of the list. 600 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: You think those Abs, those Pontings, those war type characters, 601 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: they had successful teams with the entirety of Australia backing 602 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: them in. 603 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 604 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: I think that this Australian women's cricket team has been 605 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: so successful for so long and they've had. 606 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 5: To win people over. Yeah, And I think. 607 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: It's been amazing and Meg's been at the forefront of 608 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: that and that seems to be quite a bit harder 609 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: than just winning games. 610 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: Enjoy retirement. We'll see you soon, Meg Lanning. Georgia. 611 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: Wow. I don't even I'm loving it. Yes, you're coming 612 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: out of forty eight energy wise, yeah, out of ten apparently, 613 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: fun fact, the longest cricket match in history. This already 614 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: makes me giggle because so many times people will be like, Okay, 615 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: so you really like sport. I yes they do, and 616 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, but cricket, and I'm like, no, I. 617 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 5: Love it now. 618 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: I was like, Test cricket is my favorite version. 619 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 5: Of cricket, but timeless tests used to be the norm. 620 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: Okay, can you imagine sitting through South Africa and England 621 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: in year old nineteen thirty nine in Durban. 622 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 5: For a fortnight fourteen days? The match went for fourteen days. 623 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: Jesus, we can't even get five days out of Test 624 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: cricket now. 625 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: Europe was on the brink of World War two. 626 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: The Test ran from Friday, the third of March until 627 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: Tuesday the fourteenth. God of March, goodness gracious means there 628 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: were ten playing days and two rest days. 629 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 5: Dick, God, they would have needed. 630 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Two rest days. Don't call Glenn Maxwell pickle. 631 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: J was rained off. Oh Jesus, all up forty three 632 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 5: hours and sixteen minutes on the field. 633 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: Oh, you just call it a day, you'd have to 634 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: have a mutual understanding. Be like, guys, come on the 635 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: second week, we can't be doing this. I, as. 636 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: A batter, would put my batter of my shoulder, step 637 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: back and say, mate, take a shot. I'm sure I'm 638 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: gonna get conscripted. Gotta say goodbye to my partner. Can 639 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: you just middle stump ideally and make it swift? 640 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: Time is all for the actual essence and also Gelby, 641 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: because England was five for six hundred and fifty four. 642 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: They were chasing down a mammoth South African total. They 643 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: needed forty two more runs for victory after fourteen days, 644 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: but with that pesky little war looming, England needed to 645 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: leave Durban because they had to catch their boat home. Yeah, 646 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: you joke about being conscripted. They had a water wind 647 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: so it was a timeless test. But eventually it was 648 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: considered a draw because the boys had to get on 649 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: another boat to fight for their country. 650 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're trying to sell cricket to someone, 651 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: fourteen days to result in a draws probably not the 652 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: way to do it. But next time that you have 653 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: a five day Test match and you feel like it 654 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: stretches on, dear listeners. 655 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 5: That is all we have time for today. 656 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: On two Good Sports, tell us your favorite Meg Lanning memory. 657 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: What have you got so which retirement hit you the hardest? 658 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 5: Ash party? 659 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one expects that's a universal one. 660 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: It was a genuine shock, horror, horror being the. 661 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: Objtive word because she lived kind of like me. She 662 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: could go on for another ten years. 663 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 5: She was a raining Grand Slam champ, YEP, world number one. 664 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 5: Decided I had enough. 665 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she lived, you to live and you know she's. 666 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 5: Got a little baby, Hayden Hayden. 667 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: But Matt Hayden, that's unconfirmed. 668 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 5: Queenslander. 669 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much. As always, get 670 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: in touch and biggest 671 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 6: Sport the Classical Firm