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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kay Torba and coming up on today's show as she

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Speaker 1: Binds abruptly cancels her podcast tour and Tammy Hembro and

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Speaker 1: the Brownlow Snub. But first, after seven years together, Sky

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Speaker 1: Wheatley and baby Daddy Lockie war have called it quits.

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Speaker 1: The former by brother star made the admission during an

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Speaker 1: Instagram live Now so for Sky appeared to be quite

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Speaker 1: intoxicated throughout the live. Yeah, it seemed like she had

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Speaker 1: had quite a bit to drink when she jumped on

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Speaker 1: the live. She is currently holidaying at an Airbnb on

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Speaker 1: the Sunshine Coast with her two kids, Forest and Bear,

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Speaker 1: and Lockie has been notably absent from the trip now.

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Speaker 1: For weeks, speculation has been growing that Sky and Locke

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Speaker 1: are no longer together, but nothing had been confirmed until now.

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Speaker 1: And these sort of breakup rumors have plagued the couple

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Speaker 1: for years now. Often they'll go often Lockie will be

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Speaker 1: mia from Sky's socials and then appear again, and they

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Speaker 1: don't really discuss what's happened. I mean they sort of

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Speaker 1: touched on the fact that they.

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Speaker 2: Went on a break a while ago.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the speculation also comes from

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're very honest about their relationship.

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Speaker 2: They air a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of their arguments which they've been having through their

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Speaker 1: renovation process of their house, which has been going on

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Speaker 1: for a very long time now. Now. Sky confirmed the

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Speaker 1: split during this live, and she responded to a follower

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Speaker 1: who asked if Locke had cheated on her. She said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe now. Finally enough, it was actually

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Speaker 1: her sister, Kayla, who went into bat for Locke in

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Speaker 1: the comment section, saying, from a sister's point of view,

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Speaker 1: looking into their relationship, I don't think Lockie would cheat.

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Speaker 1: I think we probably have to take Sky's comment with

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Speaker 1: a grain of salt, because, as you mentioned, Sophie, she

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Speaker 1: did appear to be quite intoxicated during the live, so

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Speaker 1: you know, she might just be saying, well, who knows. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: as soon as I heard this news, all I could

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Speaker 1: think about again was their house, because they've been renovating

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Speaker 1: it for about six years now. It's this Rundown mansion

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Speaker 1: that they got for a really good price, and they

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Speaker 1: seem to be quite close to finishing it now. It's

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Speaker 1: this incredible property. I mean, I've been invested for years

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Speaker 1: now in this process that I'll be really disappointed if

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Speaker 1: they don't finish her well. Sky confirmed in this live

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Speaker 1: that they're both going to continue with the renovations. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that would work. They need to

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Speaker 1: get a reality TV crew down their asack. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was going to say, as long as she keeps filming

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Speaker 1: the vlogs and includes Lockie, it should be some entertaining vision.

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Speaker 1: I think her viewership will go up. Lockie has also

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Speaker 1: taken a bit of swipe at Sky, so on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: he uploaded a screenshot of Sky taking part in a

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Speaker 1: TikTok live with two creators called Wise Gentlemen and Ryan J. Stewart.

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Speaker 1: The video was captioned Wise Gentlemen and Ryan J. Stewart

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Speaker 1: chat up Sky, Wheatley, and Lockie captioned the story classic

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Speaker 1: doesn't take long with three laughing face emojis. Some people

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Speaker 1: think this is his way of confirming the split, but

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Speaker 1: as someone who has followed Locke for quite some time now,

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Speaker 1: I just think it was a joke. Like I think

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Speaker 1: it's a piss take. Remember the whole was it sauna

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Speaker 1: and sausages things.

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Speaker 2: I'm hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I really hope that if they are broken up that

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Speaker 1: some good comes from it, and he does go a

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Speaker 1: bit rogue on his socials. And because he was doing

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Speaker 1: that whilst he was saying at his parents' house, his

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Speaker 1: parents seem to be quite wealthy. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Lockie. He's an absolute crag up. Despite all of

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Speaker 1: the controversy Sky has been involved in, I can't help

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Speaker 1: but have a soft spot for both her and Locke

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Speaker 1: because they are just so entertaining. The thing that is

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Speaker 1: quite confusing about this breakup is that just two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: Sky was trying to water down the rumors and avoid

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Speaker 1: answering any questions, so she put up a Q and A,

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Speaker 1: and of course everyone kept inundating her with questions about

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Speaker 1: whether she and Locke were still together. One follower wrote,

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Speaker 1: But I do hope you're okay, and she responded saying,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, I actually do have a personal

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Speaker 1: life outside of Instagram and some things I do keep

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Speaker 1: to myself. Gotten better at this with age. I'm deafly

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Speaker 1: always an oversharer, but some things are better left unsaid,

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Speaker 1: but thank.

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Speaker 2: You, my love.

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Speaker 1: I am okay. Some days I'm not, but that's all

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Speaker 1: part of the journey. The photo she chose to upload

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Speaker 1: but it looked like she was thinking about things. Well,

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Speaker 1: the picture paints a thousand words, and I think we

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Speaker 1: can read between the lines, and she was saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've been parenting by myself. Yeah. Well, presumably she received

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Speaker 1: a lot more questions about the state of their relationship

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Speaker 1: because she finally responded with acute family selfie, and in

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Speaker 1: it she unlockie were pulling funny faces, and she wrote

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Speaker 1: everything you read on the Daily Mail is always one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent true.

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Speaker 2: They are a very reputable.

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Speaker 1: Source, especially when it comes to my life with laughing

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Speaker 1: face emojis. She then pointed out this is sarcasm and continued,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine how actual famous people deal with all

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Speaker 1: of the online shit that gets written said about them.

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Speaker 1: It's actually wild. God, I'm scared for my children's future.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking lately, I'm so unsure if I want

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Speaker 1: to keep posting them, but I love sharing my life

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Speaker 1: with you guys. It's just worrying as a mother. I

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Speaker 1: hope my online presence doesn't affect my kids. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: seems to be a common worry online at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I think these updates just reflect how turbulent their relationship is, though,

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Speaker 1: because they seem to be a couple that get back

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Speaker 1: together and then break up and get back together again,

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Speaker 1: like it's been happening throughout their whole relationship. So I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they do get back together.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks time.

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Speaker 1: While it was actually a post from her good friend Tory,

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Speaker 1: which got tongues wagging even further because she uploaded a

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Speaker 1: TikTok appearing to throw some shade at Lockie. So she

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Speaker 1: wrote when you're a girl's girl, So now I've got

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Speaker 1: more beef with her ex than she ever did, and

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Speaker 1: then in the caption she wrote, he really thought he

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Speaker 1: could talk to her crazy, but forgot her besties from

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Speaker 1: the West and I don't let shit slide. She then

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Speaker 1: hashtagged it break up humor now. Sky even replied in

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Speaker 1: the comment section, writing that's my girl. That's not a

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Speaker 1: Confusing though, because Torri also jumped on Alive recently and

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Speaker 1: she said, oh oh, Locke and Sky are still together.

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Speaker 1: So again, as you say, I think it is just

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Speaker 1: painting a picture of how turbulent this relationship really is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I want what's best for everyone involved, but

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Speaker 1: I personally hope they get back together. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: still obsessed with that video that they put up of

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Speaker 1: a Mcdonald'smuok Bung at home and they had this massive

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Speaker 1: fight over the sweet and sour source because it wasn't

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Speaker 1: put in the bag and apparently it was like Lockey's

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Speaker 1: the sweet and sour source.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: It is with that. One thing that made me think

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Speaker 1: perhaps they weren't endgame is that we've never had a proposal.

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Speaker 1: Even though Sky had a sponsorship deal with a ring

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Speaker 1: brand and she kept uploading potential engagement rings. Lockie has

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Speaker 1: never got down on one knee, and I wonder if

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Speaker 1: he was a bit hesitant to do so. But he's

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Speaker 1: had two children with her. I mean, I would say

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Speaker 1: that that sort of bonds them for life.

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Speaker 2: A lot more than an engageable.

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Speaker 1: Well, and they've got the house together. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's quite interesting to think that they were only together

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Speaker 1: was pregnant with Forest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember our other boyfriend beforehand? Cam? Oh, he

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Speaker 1: was a douchebag. Yeah. I think Lockie was a definite upgrade.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think they've always seemed to clash a bit.

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Speaker 3: So No, Tammy, who are you taken? I'm taking my

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Speaker 1: Coach Tammy Hembro was a notable absentee from the Brownlow

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Speaker 1: Red carpet on Monday Night, despite going Instagram official with

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Speaker 1: AFL player Bailey Smith. Ever since the couple were papped

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Speaker 1: together in August, rumors have been swirling that Australia's biggest

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Speaker 1: influencer would steal the show at footy's night of Nights. However,

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Speaker 1: days leading into the Brownlow reports emerged that things had

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Speaker 1: cooled off.

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Speaker 2: Between the pair Gate.

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Speaker 1: Now, of course, those reports coincided with Bailey's team Geelong

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Speaker 1: getting into the Grand Final. Reading between the lines, it

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Speaker 1: seems like Bailey has been advised by his footy club

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Speaker 1: to squash the relationship with Tammy for now and focus

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Speaker 1: on football, or at least appear uki squashing things. And

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Speaker 1: I mean that all makes sense to me. But what

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Speaker 1: manager is why Geelong's media manager would allow Bailey to

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Speaker 1: be interviewed before the Brownlow on the Kyl and Jackie oshow,

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Speaker 1: be Tammy. All that appearance has done is actually create

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Speaker 1: more headlines and distractions. Yeah, but maybe they saw it

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Speaker 1: as an opportunity for him to say, Hey, I'm not

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Speaker 2: Everyone can calm down.

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Speaker 1: Well, it got me thinking, Bailiff Smith he is a

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Speaker 1: brand in himself, so he actually has more Instagram followers

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Speaker 1: than Gelong Football Club. He's got four hundred and three

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Speaker 1: So I wonder if he's just too big now for

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Speaker 1: club rules and his manager possibly set this interview up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Bailey Smith really gives a fuck when

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Speaker 1: what he wants to do. But I think it's clear

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Speaker 1: that he has been told by his coach that he

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Speaker 1: needs to focus on footage. Yeah, rein it in a

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Speaker 1: little bit now. We spoke about the interview briefly on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday show, but I want to go more into it

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Speaker 1: now that we have the time, Kate to refresh everyone's memories.

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Speaker 1: This is how Bailey broke the news that he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be taking Tammy to the Brown low A.

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Speaker 3: You're taking Tammy tonight or no, I'm not. No, I

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Speaker 3: didn't want to bore her with footy all night. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: she's not a big footy fan. And they were just mates.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are like exclusive or boyfriend girl.

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Speaker 3: We're just just mate. Loves the exclusivity and I said,

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Speaker 3: I do love relationships.

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Speaker 1: Bailey went on to say that he was taking his

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Speaker 1: jiu jitsu coach, who is one of his best mates.

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Speaker 1: How random is that he also said his mate would

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Speaker 1: be getting blind all night and was planning on having.

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Speaker 2: A big one.

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Speaker 1: My blood absolutely boiled for Tammy when he kept referring

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Speaker 1: to her as a mate. Like what an absolute slap

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Speaker 1: in the face. I mean, do you take your mate

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Speaker 1: Sophie to romantic restaurants and pose the photos with your

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Speaker 1: hand on their knee. Well, no, I don't really have

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Speaker 1: any male mates that I would get. I mean, do

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Speaker 1: almost relieved for Tammy that she didn't have to stand

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Speaker 1: a tryan hale as She Bynes has announced she's expanding

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Speaker 1: had been gagged, but she actually ended up dropping a

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Speaker 1: few details about what went down. Riating between the lines,

438
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Speaker 1: it seems like Ashi put a lot of pressure on

439
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Speaker 1: Kiara when it came to the podcast. So Kiara said

440
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 1: the podcast was meant to be a bit of a

441
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Speaker 1: fun side project, but as she took it way more seriously.

442
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: Kiara even labeled her friendship with Ashy full on. So

443
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,640
Speaker 1: when ash promoted that she she was expanding the podcast team,

444
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: people started speculating that her co host Tiana must also

445
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: be struggling with the workload. Listeners have been picking up

446
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 1: on a bit of a vibe that Tiana has been

447
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 1: left to do the majority of the heavy lifting with

448
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: this podcast, and that seemed to be confirmed when both

449
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 1: Ashy and Tiana shared on social media what their roles

450
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: were for the podcast, and Tiana definitely takes care of

451
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 1: the majority of the back end work, from the finances

452
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: to the editing. Oh my god, what about when Ashy

453
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: claimed that she couldn't do the more technical edits because

454
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Speaker 1: her fingers were chubbier than Tiana, she suually can't really

455
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Speaker 1: zoom in. As for what ash does, she said she

456
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: prints off the script and sticks them onto card and

457
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: also uploads the tiktoks and sends out a newsletter. In

458
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Speaker 1: terms of actually coming up with the content, I got

459
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Speaker 1: a little bit confused because as she was like, oh, yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: you're much better at structured Tiana. You come up with

461
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Speaker 1: the structure and then I go in there and sort

462
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: of add the content. But it kind of seems to

463
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: me that Tiana comes up with the idea of the

464
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Speaker 1: episode and then Ash will sort of write a few

465
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Speaker 1: little dot points underneath headlines. It is a lot of

466
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Speaker 1: content for Tiana to come up with, because, as you

467
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: touched on Kate, they release four episodes a week. That

468
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: is a big effort and I found it pretty fascinating

469
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 1: learning more about behind the scenes of their podcast because

470
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Speaker 1: they actually bulk record all of those episodes. So once

471
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Speaker 1: a month, they drive from the Gold Coast up to Brisbane,

472
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Speaker 1: they book in a recording studio, they stay there overnight

473
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Speaker 1: and they record sixteen episodes. Now getting back to this

474
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Speaker 1: job advertisement, as she wrote on Instagram that they're looking

475
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Speaker 1: for an assistant role, so they want someone to work

476
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Speaker 1: five to six plus hours a week and they said

477
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Speaker 1: that there's.

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Speaker 2: Potential growth in the role.

479
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Speaker 1: She wrote, We're looking for a high vibe, creative, ridiculously organized,

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Speaker 1: and self led assistant to join the she Risers team.

481
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Speaker 1: This role starts at around five hours a week, with

482
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Speaker 1: opportunity to expand into more hours as the brand continues

483
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Speaker 1: to grow. We're looking for someone who can keep up

484
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Speaker 1: with the rapid growth and stay organized when it comes

485
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Speaker 1: to our project planning and evolving brand. This is a

486
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Speaker 1: flexible work from home role with the potential for in

487
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Speaker 1: office work in the future. Could it be more clear

488
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Speaker 1: that chat GPT wrote that job advertisement now despite saying

489
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Speaker 1: that they wanted someone to work five to six hours

490
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: a week, the list of responsibilities was so big that

491
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: they had to divide it into weekly and monthly tasks.

492
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Speaker 1: Let's run through them.

493
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 3: So.

494
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Speaker 1: They want someone to upload podcast snippets to TikTok and

495
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: Instagram three times a day on each platform. Write captions

496
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Speaker 1: for all of the uploads. Set up many chat keyword automatics,

497
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: manage customer care for retreats, manage she Rises Instagram dms,

498
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: manage customer service for the she Rises subscription, reach out

499
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Speaker 1: to potential podcast guests, sent out weekly newsletter, brainstorm creative

500
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: content ideas, plan and organize trending weekly content in Google

501
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: Docs now. As for the monthly responsibilities, they included project

502
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Speaker 1: planning and organizing brand initiatives, printing and preparing speaking point

503
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: cards for filming as she's obviously fed up doing that,

504
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: assistant photo shoots, run Errand's when required, track monthly revenue,

505
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: follow up invoices and subscriptions for retreats, and provide ongoing customer.

506
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: Service for she Rises retreat.

507
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: So there's an awful lot on someone's plate for someone

508
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Speaker 1: who works five to six hours a week. I mean,

509
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that is a full time gig. Like, I

510
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: don't understand how that is being advertised as five to

511
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: six hours a week. That is absolutely ridiculous. Well, they

512
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 1: obviously didn't have trouble finding someone because on Wednesday, Ashi

513
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: and Tiana announce that they'd interviewed their first PA. They

514
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: tease their audience that it was someone they may already know,

515
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: and hours later they confirmed that they had hired her.

516
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Speaker 1: I love that they hire the first person they interviewed,

517
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Speaker 1: Like to me, the fact that it was someone they

518
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Speaker 1: know makes it sound like no one actually applied for

519
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: the job. So they had to go in house and

520
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: go you know, because as she's got an other business Hideaway,

521
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that someone from the Hideaway team. It's interesting

522
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: because from the outside, it looks like this podcast is

523
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: absolutely flourishing since the rebrand, and when as she announced

524
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: the rebrand, she made it very clear that this podcast

525
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: is a top priority of hers, and in terms of

526
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: success on the charts, last month, the podcast ranked number

527
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty five with twenty one thousand monthly

528
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Speaker 1: listeners and forty six thousand downloads across twenty three episodes,

529
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Speaker 1: So that means roughly each episode is averaging around two

530
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: thousand downloads. Well, not to shit on anyone, but that's

531
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Speaker 1: actually not very much considering the large Instagram following that

532
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: she has, And it's quite clear why their strategy is

533
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: to release four episodes a week, because they're trying to

534
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: bolster up their total download numbers. Yeah, I mean that

535
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: was obvious to me looking at it as well. And again,

536
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Speaker 1: i mean, two thousand downloads is good for a podcast,

537
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: but not when you have, you know, a million followers

538
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Like, it's quite clear that your followers aren't

539
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: listening to your podcast. It's good for a startup podcast

540
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: of people who have no profile whatsoever, but yeah, for

541
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Speaker 1: someone of her status, that's pretty disappointing. Yeah, I mean,

542
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: it's quite clear that they're very focused on creating revenue.

543
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: From their podcast. They have ads running on it, so

544
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: they would be creating some revenue through the ad stream,

545
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: but they've also now set up this additional revenue stream

546
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Speaker 1: of the retreats. So they announced that they sold out

547
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: of their May twenty twenty six retreats in eight hours.

548
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, that's a lot. But then

549
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: to put that into perspective, there are only twenty four

550
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: spots available on the trip. Yeah, but this is what

551
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: all influencers do. We've sold out of everything, but we

552
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: have very limited spots. Yeah. It was weird because then

553
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: they launched this other retreat for September twenty twenty six

554
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: off the back of selling out, and they kept claiming,

555
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: oh but we've got hundreds of people in the waiting list.

556
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: But then the way it was set up was so

557
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: unprofessional because people had to DM them saying that they

558
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: were interested, and then they sent them the brochure with

559
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: the details and then they were like, oh, but you

560
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: can pay for it in full, or we can do

561
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: a payment plan, but we have to get back to

562
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: our hotel in Balley because they were over in Bally

563
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: to do that, like it was just it was just

564
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Speaker 1: so unprofessional. I was like, you can't run a bussiness

565
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: like that. Well, another sign that things aren't going so

566
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: well for this podcast comes down to their live tour.

567
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: So they have been spooking since the start of the

568
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Speaker 1: year that they are holding live tours around the country,

569
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Speaker 1: and in late April they announced this tour and claimed

570
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: they had already sold out of VIP tickets and general

571
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: admissions were flying off the shelves.

572
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
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Speaker 1: So when I was doing research for this topic, I

574
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I didn't even know they had a

575
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: live show on And I clicked on the link that

576
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: they provided in one of their highlighted Instagram stories and

577
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: it came up with like an error, and I was like, oh,

578
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: that's weird. So I started googling and I came across

579
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: a ticket page and to my surprise, it was listed

580
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Speaker 1: as canceled. So on the page it said, due to

581
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Speaker 1: unforeseen circumstances, she Rises Live with Ashy and Tiana has

582
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: unfortunately been canceled. Affected ticket holders will receive an email

583
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: advising of the cancelation and next steps. Please check your

584
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: inbox and spam junk folders. Well, there's a job for

585
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: the assists and please email a handful of people who

586
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: have secured tickets to your life show, please give them

587
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: their money back now. This led me to do some

588
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: further digging because I was like, oh, surely Ash and

589
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: Tiana have publicly announced that this tour was canceled somewhere,

590
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: and I spent ages trawling through the she Risers Instagram account.

591
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: In the end, I ended up putting a call out

592
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: on Outspoken's Facebook community asking if anyone had heard anything. Now.

593
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, Oh, I wonder if it's another friendship

594
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: bust up now. Off the back of my post in

595
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: the Facebook community, the news spread to Tattle Life and

596
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: someone ended up sharing a message that Tiana sent them

597
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: about the live show, so she wrote, that's right. Unfortunately,

598
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: we made the decision to pause she Risers Live. We

599
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: were navigating a lot of changes slash difficulties with getting

600
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: this event up and running, and it just felt extremely forceful.

601
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't lining up in the way we originally wanted

602
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: it to when we first launched. We tossed up for

603
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: a long time with this decision because we only ever

604
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: wanted to deliver the best experience for you, ladies, and

605
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: with venue issues and some internal challenges, we just decided

606
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: to pause it until we can deliver one hundred percent.

607
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: Refunds were the easiest way we could support all the

608
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: women who bought tickets instead of giving credits and leaving

609
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: it open ended, etc. But we are building something right

610
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: now that we know you'll love. Thank you for understanding,

611
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 1: and we're excited for the day we can get up

612
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: on the stage and have you join us. Look, I

613
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: don't mean to be that person, but it's quite clear

614
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: that they just didn't get the numbers. Yeah, I mean,

615
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: it's nothing to do with the venue going through. I

616
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: just find it very unprofessional that they didn't publicly announce

617
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: that this tour wasn't happening, like if there was a

618
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: legitimate reason, like oh, we're having issues because the venue

619
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Speaker 1: is not big enough to hold everyone, or you know,

620
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: because they claimed they had sold out of VIP tickets

621
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Speaker 1: and you know the other tickets were selling like hotcakes.

622
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Well, if you are.

623
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Speaker 1: A die hard fan of this podcast, you're buying the

624
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: VIP tickets. So maybe they thought, wow, those have sold

625
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: so quickly, there's going to be an outpouring of interest

626
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: in our general admission tickets. But there just wasn't. I mean, yeah,

627
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: it seems pretty obvious that there were a lack of

628
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: ticket sales. But I think if you really care about

629
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: the community that you're building, and there were people that

630
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: bought tickets, you need to publicly address it and say, look,

631
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we're actually rescheduling the show, like just say

632
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: that there's a schedule class or something. It's because they

633
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: don't want to go into the real reason that they're

634
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: canceling this tour.

635
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: So they would rather hide it. Yeah.

636
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean in that message, Tiana dropped that they're bringing

637
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: something else out and they have been teasing it, which

638
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: was giving me flashbacks to when Kiara and Ash were

639
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: teasing a product and then suddenly there was radio silence

640
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: and they were no longer friends nor hosting the podcast together.

641
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if this product will ever see the

642
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: light of day. A lot of people were guessing what

643
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: it was in the comments section. They have revealed it's

644
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: not a dildo, which was one of the guesses, and

645
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: then a couple of other people asked if it was

646
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: a planner or a journal.

647
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: It is not either of those.

648
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: Different it is a dildo or a journal. Well, we

649
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: know that Ash has been selling natural Loube, so I mean,

650
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: there's a variety of products that could be I was

651
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: actually going back over the run sheet that we did

652
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: back in January when we discussed the relaunch of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: and it seems Ashy Bynes kind of has already ruined

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Speaker 1: her surprise because she spoke about how they want to

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Speaker 1: do it a four week self improvement course. So I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing the product has to do with that. Let's get

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Speaker 1: into our Friday debrief, and I'm coming with a recommendation

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Speaker 1: that has really surprised me because I scrolled past it

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Speaker 1: so many times on Netflix, and I'm like, I am

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Speaker 1: not interested in Charlie Sheen. I grew up with dad

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Speaker 1: watching Two and a Half Man. I despised the show.

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Speaker 1: I never really got it. I never even understood that

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Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen was a big actor before then. Nah, I

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Speaker 1: had no idea he well, he saw was playing himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he was sort of a bit of a joke

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Speaker 1: on that show. I just viewed him as this washed

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Speaker 1: up actor. Anyway, there wasn't much on Netflix, so I'm like,

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Speaker 1: let's just watch it. I love a celebrity documentary as well,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, I'm guessing that they

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Speaker 1: haven't spoken to him, like it must be everyone else

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Speaker 1: speaking about him. No. No, he was there, absolutely telling everything.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. I was a bit skeptical at first

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Speaker 1: and thought I'm not going to enjoy this, but it

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Speaker 1: really hooked me in. With the first story he told

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Speaker 1: about being on an aeroplane on the way to his

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Speaker 1: honeymoon with his wife or one of his wives. He

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Speaker 1: had three wives, and basically he got invited into the

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Speaker 1: cockpit because the captain was a big fan of him,

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Speaker 1: and he said, hey, mate, could I put on your

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Speaker 1: captain's jack. I think you're forgetting the fact that he

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Speaker 1: had just downed four shots prior to entering the cockpit,

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Speaker 1: and also he'd been drinking throughout.

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Speaker 2: The whole flight.

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Speaker 1: He was very intoxicated. Yeah, so he's off his face

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Speaker 1: at this point, off his jobs and he said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: could I also put your captain's hat on? And the

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Speaker 1: guy's like, nokay, And then they took a photo and

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Speaker 1: then he said, oh, can I sit behind the wheel

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Speaker 1: And the pilot's like all right, So the co pilot

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Speaker 1: gets up and the pilot actually flicked over the controls.

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Speaker 1: So Charlie Sheen.

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Speaker 2: Was flying the fucking plane.

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Speaker 1: This is a passenger jet with like four hundred people

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Speaker 1: on it, and he said he started to sort of

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Speaker 1: turn it slightly and the plane started tilting and that's

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Speaker 1: when the pilot decided, Hey, this isn't a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Let's flick this off.

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Speaker 1: So it was the perfect way to portray the power

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Speaker 1: and celebrity that Charlie Sheen had at that point in

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Speaker 1: time and how he could basically get away with anything. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was a great introduction to the doco because the

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Speaker 1: interviewer is like, was it at this point that you

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Speaker 1: thought you could get away with anything? And he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of the guy because there's

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Speaker 1: always been these stories in the background about alleged domestic

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Speaker 1: violence with his partners. And two of his partners actually

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Speaker 1: did appear in the documentary and it was quite interesting

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Speaker 1: because although it was quite clear that they had a

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Speaker 1: tumultuous relationship with him, they still remained in his life

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Speaker 1: because they shared children together. And it shocked about how

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Speaker 1: much Denise Richards did fear Charlie she In, particularly, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to ruin the docco, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: she took in his twins with his new wife. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when they were going to be taken into care. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. Even though he was such a jerk,

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Speaker 1: there was still a likable quality to him. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: was because he's actually being so honest now he has

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Speaker 1: a lot of charisma as well. Yeah, like he like

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Speaker 1: I've never foun him attractive, and I'm like, oh, he

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Speaker 1: was a really good looking young guy. It is a

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Speaker 1: fascinating documentary. If you were looking for something to watch

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Speaker 1: with your partner on the weekend, I would definitely tune in.

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Speaker 1: It had me hooked for like the three or four.

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Speaker 2: Hours that it went for.

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Speaker 1: I've just been desperately looking for something to get into

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Speaker 1: after the summer I turned pretty Finale. I've been living

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Speaker 1: for that show. You guys have not watched it. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's the biggest show in the world at

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Speaker 1: the moment, and I don't know what I can convince

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Speaker 1: you to get into it. I've watched one series and

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Speaker 1: I did kind of like it like years ago, so

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's a bit of a commitment that

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Speaker 1: I have to rewatch it. You don't actually watch it,

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Speaker 1: don't bother watching the second series that was disappointing. Go

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Speaker 1: straight to the third Kay, suer good. We've been watching

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Speaker 1: the poor man's version of the Summer I turned pretty.

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Speaker 1: We were watching Home with the Walk to Boys. What

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Speaker 1: the fuck is that? It's got Donna from suits.

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Speaker 2: Teenage?

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Speaker 1: You guys need to watch something that's actually trending at

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Speaker 1: the moment. You recently watching the Block. I'm like, are

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Speaker 1: you guys just middle aged? Now? I will not have

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Speaker 1: you say a bad thing against that show. The Block

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Speaker 1: is my comfort show.

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Speaker 2: So fucking tragic. I don't know who watches free to

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Speaker 2: air TV anymore. Get on, Nat Flick.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to baby Talk podcast with Taylor Broad

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Speaker 1: and Lana Murphy and they both love the Block, So

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Speaker 1: I think you need to get around it. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: can you can someone please.

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Speaker 2: Convince Kate to watch the third series of the Summer Time.

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Speaker 2: I'll watch it if you.

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Speaker 1: Watch the Block. I'm not watching the Block. I've missed

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Speaker 1: it all. It's on free to I've missed it. It's

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Speaker 1: on Catch On.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'll give it a go. Just watch Summer ten. Pretty.

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Speaker 1: I want to know if your team Conrad or team

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Speaker 1: jeremih Al Right, well, I think that's what we're going

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Speaker 1: to leave things today. If you do want to hear

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Speaker 1: more content from us, we drop a subscription only episode

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Speaker 1: every thursday 'es basically an extension of this show. If

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Speaker 1: you want to subscribe, all the details are in the notes.

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Speaker 1: It's available now on Spotify and on Apple Podcasts. If

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Speaker 1: you do enjoy the show, we would love it if

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Speaker 1: the podcast, we would really appreciate it if you could

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Speaker 1: leave us a review. This podcast was recorded on the

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Speaker 1: traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.

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Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present,