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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. How do you feel about those

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Speaker 1: influencers who use their kids in the whole lot of stuff,

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Speaker 1: Because there's a whole lot of thing at the moment.

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Speaker 2: She uses her kid's a fair bit in her stuff

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Speaker 2: and I like seeing it.

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Speaker 1: But is it family stuff or is she making a

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Speaker 1: living from it? My little that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: If it's cute to see what the kids are up.

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Speaker 1: Of course that's different to this that she's not an influencer.

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Speaker 1: She's just putting pictures of herself for a family.

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Speaker 2: But that's this is where the lines, I guess blur,

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Speaker 2: the crossing of the lines from what's private and what's public.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think money makes that difference people who are

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Speaker 1: in a living doing it. There's a thing called sharenting.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of money mummy bloggers and sharenting. Sharanting is

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Speaker 1: a term coin to describe parents sharing their kids milestones

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Speaker 1: online and doing it kind of in a backhanded way

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Speaker 1: so that you make money from it. So this is

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Speaker 1: you know, we all know millions and millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: for posts about clothes, about products, about a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff, and often kids are kind of doing all that.

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Speaker 1: For example, if you have influencers with more than a

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Speaker 1: million followers can earn twenty thousand dollars from sponsored content.

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Speaker 2: Is that a year from what?

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Speaker 1: No, that's from one post one post. Yeah, Smaller followers

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Speaker 1: can still earn a few thousand dollars from a single post.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of money in this. Well. A child

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Speaker 1: label law labor law has been brought in in Illinois.

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Speaker 1: They've made an amendment to their existing rules that requires

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Speaker 1: that children who appear in their parent or guardian social

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Speaker 1: media profiles must be paid. The bill states that children

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Speaker 1: under the age of sixteen should receive fifteen percent of

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Speaker 1: an influence as gross earnings if they appear in at

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Speaker 1: least thirty percent of the monetarized content. So mum's dads

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Speaker 1: and all of that must be responsible now for putting

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Speaker 1: the earnings into a trust account and as well as that.

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Speaker 1: What has also written into the law is the child

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Speaker 1: can request that their image and their use is deleted

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Speaker 1: from content that they're featured, and if the adult doesn't comply,

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Speaker 1: the minor has the ability to sue for damages. Because

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Speaker 1: this is a big thing. Forget the influencer world and

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Speaker 1: all of that sharing your child's life online. That's publishing

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Speaker 1: as we know, that's what we tell our teenagers. But

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Speaker 1: if you're doing that to them as four year old,

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Speaker 1: of five old and eight year old a ten year old,

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Speaker 1: that's there forever for when they want to be a

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Speaker 1: human and launch themselves on the world that's there and

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Speaker 1: they've had no say in it.

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Speaker 2: And with the world of AI and facial matching and

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Speaker 2: stuff that those images can be stolen absolutely and used

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Speaker 2: for other things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, isn't it, Because did you your kids go

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Speaker 1: through that phase? And mine still do it to a

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Speaker 1: certain extent where you could not take a photo of

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Speaker 1: them on your phone. Yeah, we'd go on holidays and

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Speaker 1: say can I take a picture moon? They pull rough

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Speaker 1: heads and all of that, you know. So that's the

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Speaker 1: images I have of them in my private phone collection.

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Speaker 1: And I put a picture of my sons and my

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Speaker 1: dad on Instagram on the weekend because I've been in

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Speaker 1: Brisbeek visiting dad. I knew enough to get permission from

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Speaker 1: both kids saying you're okay if I put this up.

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Speaker 1: I would never share anything of them that they didn't

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Speaker 1: give me permission to.

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Speaker 2: My kids are that old. I've got pictures of them

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Speaker 2: going up at Dekenzie and Chimney to skip.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to paint them in those days.

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Speaker 2: In those days, just be thankful you haven't got the

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Speaker 2: black lung. Mate.

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Speaker 1: It's a far more honest way to earn a living.

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Speaker 2: It's a bowl of millet gruel, gruel, the gruel.

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Speaker 1: Well abteresting to see what happens that you know, whether

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Speaker 1: this would head to other states, other countries. Keep an

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Speaker 1: eye out