1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken the podcast. It's not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kay and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: That is so fatch thank you now. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I've seen you all last night, 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: even though we didn't hang out, because I was watching 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: the Christmas movie Noel, and you are the spinning image 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: of Anna Kendrick. Now, I can already hear people listening 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: being like, well, doesn't that mean that you also look 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: like Anna Kendrick? Being identical triplets, but there is an 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: uncanny resemblance between you and her. 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to interject because I've also been told 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: I look like Anna Kendrick. I think, Sophie, you're the 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: only one that hasn't been told you look like Anna Kendrick. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: I've weirdly been told and it sounds like humble brag 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: that I look like men or silvari got this whole 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: segment's a humble brag or the which movie star to overclag? 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: But do you know what? 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: We didn't even really know who Anna Kendrick was because that, 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, the first time I was told that I 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: looked like her because we were sitting in this restaurant, 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: the three of us, and this girl came up and said, 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: has anyone ever told you you look like Annie Kendrick? 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: And I remember turning to our best friend Owen, and 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: I said, oh, is that an offensive thing or is 28 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: that a nice thing? And she's like, oh, I don't know. 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: She wasn't. I don't know. He won't be thrilled by 30 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: being told you look like her? Anyway. Then I watched 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Pitch Perfect. I was like, oh my god, there is 32 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: something about her face that reminds me of my own face. 33 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I can definitely see like I can see 34 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: the resemblance with you, Amy. But when I was living 35 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: in Melbourne, my ex boyfriend or boyfriend at the times 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: friend came up and told him that he thought I 37 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: looked like Anna Kendrick. And now we've just been getting 38 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: it like in the most random places. 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about random places. Do you guys remember 40 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: when we were at Hooters and we Singapore, we were 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the best cousins. We took our two male cousins to Hooters. 42 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: A little cousin who was fifteen at the time told 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: us that he just wanted to go there for the 44 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: family atmosphere. It wasn't anything to do with the girls, 45 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: and it was the best place to go and eat 46 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: dinner at Clark Key in Singapore. 47 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I've got to give him that. It makesist something worse 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: that he was fifteen that we took fifteen year old there. 49 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, we was sitting at the table and the 50 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: waitress came up and said, oh my god, are you 51 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Ana Kendrick? And I was sitting there with Kate and 52 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Sophie to my left and right, thinking how are their 53 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: three Anna Kendricks here. Then it's funny though that it 54 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: seems to be happening in places that we don't live. 55 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Like I was in America and the uber driver when 56 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: I got out was like, oh, should I be asking 57 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: you for your autograph? 58 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: And I was like why and he's like, aren't you 59 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: that movie star? Then I was on Pitch Perfect, I 60 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: was like, this is so weird. 61 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: We're talking about You're talking about something's weird. So when 62 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: I was in Amsterdam, I found out that Anna Kendrick 63 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: was there at the same time, and that was the 64 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: day that we'd seen our Stuart from home and away. 65 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: So I was telling Dale, I'm like, we're gonna see 66 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Anna Kendrick. It's just meant to be. I've had so 67 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: many people tell me I look like her. Now I'm 68 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: going to run into her in amps down. Unfortunately that 69 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: didn't happen. Maybe she should replace me as your other things. 70 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of that trend ten years 71 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: ago on Facebook where people put up their doublegangers and 72 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: it was always a celebrity that did not look anything 73 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: like that. People are probably going to go now and 74 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: look us up and be like they didn't look like her. 75 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: I remember some girl put up Jennifer Hawkins and I 76 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: was like, Wow, the audacity to do that. Yet we've 77 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: just been discussing that we look like all these movie stars. 78 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: But we're going to put a post up in our community. 79 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: Please tell us who you have been mistaken, as it 80 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: can be any sort of celebrity, even an influencer or 81 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: a z grade I Goma Tek you father Long, We're wrong. 82 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Till by Law Whiskey FA the Way Mummy blogger Olivia 83 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: White has been accused of misleading her followers after releasing 84 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: champagne flutes she claimed were original pieces inspired by her 85 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: mother and grandmother. However, savvy fans have spotted the same 86 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: champagne glasses on Chinese wholesale marketplace, Ali Barber. Now, before 87 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: we delve into the craziness that's transpired over the last 88 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: week on social media, Kate, can you tell us who 89 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: exactly is Olivia White? 90 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: Would be completely honest. I wasn't actually aware of Olivia White. 91 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: I only recently started following her page House of White. 92 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: So she is a thirty year old mummy blogger and 93 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: she started her blog when her daughter was born about 94 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: seven years ago now so she has two kids and 95 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: she's got a bit of a background in marketing. She 96 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: did some fashion writing for Country Racing Victoria before she 97 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: fell pregnant, and once she was pregnant at twenty three, 98 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: she decided to launch her own blog about motherhood of course, 99 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: and that took off, so now she really is a 100 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: bit of an influencer. She is also an advocate for 101 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: body positivity. We should probably get into it. So she 102 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: announced that she was releasing a limited edition range of 103 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: gifting product and she revealed that she had created some 104 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: champagne flutes called the Valerie, which is shaped as a 105 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: woman's body, and also some silicon cups called Kimmy now 106 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: chilicoone cups down like breast in plants or something, but 107 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: they're actually kind of key glasses. So she said that 108 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: the glasswear was inspired by her mum Valerie and also 109 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: her grandma, and she said it was a celebration of 110 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: all women and was created to inspire other women to 111 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: celebrate themselves. Now, ahead of the glasses going on sale, 112 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: Olivia posted about how she was going to surprise her 113 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: mum Valerie with the glasses, and she in fact had 114 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: to locker on Instagram so she didn't see any. 115 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Of her posts. Now, to me, that was already strange, 116 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: because if you have been creating some glasswhere that's your 117 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: passion project for a number of months now, you think 118 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: your mom might have heard about it. But if it's 119 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: a surprise, I can see why. It actually sounds like 120 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: a really nice marketing story. So I'm not surprised she's 121 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: previously worked in marketing, because you've got the hook of 122 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 1: this is for my mom and this is a body 123 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: positivity product. Well, head of the launch, she actually did 124 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: a giveaway on Instagram, and she also released the glasses 125 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: to a number of influencers and I actually saw them 126 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: on my feed because Olivia Rodgers shared about them, and 127 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I thought, God, those glasses are quite cool. 128 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: I also saw them on Olivia Rodgers page and I 129 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: was like, Wow, that's pretty cool, especially because it's all 130 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: about body positivity and it seemed like a really unique 131 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: glass that you could give as a really good gift. 132 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she seemed to have quite a good marketing strategy 133 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: in place. She also had a pre sale option where 134 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: people could register for the product ahead of time, but 135 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: a number of people said online that they actually did 136 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: not receive the email to notify them that had gone 137 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: on sale early. I did find the communication back to 138 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: customers Olivia a little bit cringe. There were quite a 139 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: few people, as you said, posting that they did not 140 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: receive the initial email and then had missed out on 141 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: getting a glass, and she kind of wrote back like, 142 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: oh well, I don't know, like there was some twenty 143 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: one emails that bounced back or maybe check your junk, 144 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: And it was sort of a little bit seemed a 145 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: little bit unprofessional. Something else I found a little bit 146 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: cringe now knowing what has unfolded was that she did 147 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: an announcement post to say that the product was live, 148 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: and the co founder of Business Chicks, Emma Isaac, wrote 149 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: underneath the post expressing how proud she was of Olivia 150 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: for launching this product. Now, should we talk about what 151 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: has unfolded? I think so. 152 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 2: Well, the glasses did sell out in under an hour, 153 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: so they went on sale on Monday at eleven am, 154 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: and Olivia, as you would be, was very proud to 155 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: say on her Instagram that they had sold out in 156 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: record time and she really wasn't expecting it at all. 157 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she was really proud of the fact that 158 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: she had sold out all of the glasses, and she 159 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: was posting lots of instant stories of herself packing the glasses. 160 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: But things turned suddenly when some followers did a bit 161 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: of investigating. Yes, it was quite interesting because a few 162 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: followers did a little bit of digging and discovered the 163 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Valerie glass was in fact being sold on Ali Barber. 164 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: Now you can do a quick search and the glass 165 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: is actually referred to on Ali Barber as lady body 166 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: shaped cheap glassware wineglass. Now, I thought it was hilarious 167 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: that it was actually referred to as cheap glassware, and 168 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: it is being sold for a dollar sixty two, and 169 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: that's with a minimum order of two thousand, So it's 170 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: a bit rich to be charging someone forty dollars a 171 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: glass when you were only paying a dollar sixty Yeah, well, 172 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: to be specific, it was actually thirty nine ninety five 173 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and the influencers who got it did show that was 174 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: in a nice little bag, so I don't know if 175 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: that was any additional cost. So can I just say though, 176 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: this is just another influencer who's basically set up a 177 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: drop shipping business from Ali Barber. Well, the worst thing 178 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: was that the silicone cups were also on Ali Barber 179 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: and they ranged from fourteen cents to a dollar sixty 180 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: five and there was no minimum spend, so that was 181 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: for one glass on its own. Can I say, though, 182 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with drop shipping as 183 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: a business model, but I do think there's something wrong 184 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: when you're claiming you've designed these glasses. I think that's 185 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: completely misleading to the people who were buying them. 186 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm aware of some very successful businesses that have 187 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: started off as drop shipping. However, it seems quite different 188 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: because normally it's someone that doesn't really have any money 189 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: behind them. It's usually someone that is, you know, potentially 190 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: a twenty year old kid that has an idea and 191 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: the only way to get it off its feet is 192 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: to do drop shipping. However, it's kind of an interesting 193 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: business strategy for an influencer who you would assume has 194 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of money saved up from their following 195 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: and from the advertisements that they do with big brands 196 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: like woolworst that they could probably source a glass that 197 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: was a bit more custom made. 198 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think the worst thing was that she was 199 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: just amping it up so much. You know, she wrote 200 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram saying, oh I found it. I've got a 201 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: new found appreciation for people who run their own business 202 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: and self physical goods. Yes, you were start packing the glasses, 203 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: but you didn't create the glass fear like you claim 204 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: to do. I think things really went upper level when 205 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: Olivia just to get on her Instagram story. Now, this 206 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: was fresh off packing all of her boxes of glassware 207 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: for the last couple of days, and she was drinking 208 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: a beer. So I really think this was an example 209 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: of when you really should have slept on something anyway, 210 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: So she decided to call out the people that recusing 211 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: her of using Ali Barber for her glassware, and this 212 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: is what she said. Now it goes on for a 213 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: little bit, but I think it's important to hear the 214 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: tone and what she actually said. 215 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: This whole time, I was like, I'm not even going 216 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: to give the attention to the one percents. I'm like, no, live, 217 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: And then that tory inside of me was like no time, No, 218 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: not at all. Most of you wouldn't even know what 219 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking about, but a couple of you have like 220 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: felt the need to message me about people trolling me 221 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: about selling these glasses and being like, oh, I come on, 222 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: you can buy them from Ali Barber three dollars, and 223 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, lol, there is so much about that that just. 224 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: I can't even hilarious for so many reasons, and. 225 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, these people like it's hilarious that 226 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: I obviously shared these products with you weeks ago, but 227 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: it wasn't until the moment that I launched them and 228 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 3: they sold out that then these people were like, oh no, 229 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: you were successful. And I'm kind of flattered because I've 230 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: been sent screenshots of people being like, oh my god, 231 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: she would have made like one thousands, tens of thousands, 232 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: it's not hundreds of thousands of dollars. And I'm like, 233 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: first of all, I'm like flattered that you think I 234 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: sold that many, Like I didn't even have, like I 235 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: think I had like five hundred. So of course I 236 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: couldn't buy at the quantities that people think I was 237 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: buying for. Plus, whenever you buy anything from China, it 238 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: comes in usd like people people. But this whole time, 239 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: like I've been telling you guys, like you know, I 240 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: was working with my friend Tara, who does product sourcing, 241 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: like you know, literally, I had said that this was 242 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: something that I wanted for my bar hut, and I 243 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: couldn't readily find it in Australia anyway. Anyway, Anyway, it's 244 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: not even that that gets me. It's not even that. 245 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: What gets me is these people who act like their 246 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: social justice worriers that they're like, oh my god, it 247 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: makes me feel thick. How much money making. I'm like, 248 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: when are we going to stop? And I cannot stress 249 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: this enough, when are we going to stop money shaming women? 250 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 251 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: Who cares? 252 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: If I actually made that much money, which I wish 253 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: I did, And could you please me my business goes 254 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: because I'm clearly fucking doing it wrong. 255 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: But like, when are we going to stop this? 256 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 3: Like these are the same people who probably don't believe 257 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: that the virus exists, that support Trump, but are still 258 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: having a cry that like they have to pay taxes 259 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: on their tampons, Like, oh my god, if you want 260 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: to talk about highway robbery, I. 261 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Could give you a long fucking list. 262 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: So let's just please stop money shaming women. 263 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for coming to my. 264 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: Teto pye, Okay, a little jokes. I'm not actually done. 265 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: But there was one person that was like, oh my god, 266 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: your followers are idiots, and I'm like, actually they're not. 267 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, they're actually just like really nice, genuine supportive 268 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: women who understand how hard. 269 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: It is to like hustle. 270 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, it's it's fine, It's totally fine. 271 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: And yeah I'm pretty sure that like no one thought 272 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: that I was like standing by the kiln hand blowing 273 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: them by myself. If you did, or if you did 274 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: think that, like. 275 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm genuinely so sorry. But yeah, I'm just. 276 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: Gonna drink my like mid strength cheap beer celebrate because 277 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: I can guarantee you, I can't guarantee you they're the 278 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: money I made from doing this on the scale. But 279 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: on the flip side of that, did it, I've done it. 280 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: I had no idea what I was doing. If I 281 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: got out of this without fucking up at least like 282 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: ten orders, then I feel like, you know, that's something 283 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: to be celebrated. 284 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: And sorry if I fucked up your order. 285 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: I really, honestly, I really didn't know what I was doing. 286 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: I guess thank you for people thinking that I sold 287 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: so many, Like I'm genuinely flatter. 288 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Do you think I'm that influential? 289 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: But like I didn't, um and yeah, so cheers, cheers 290 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: to just stop money shaming women, just seriously, just stop it, 291 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: just stop it please, then thank you. 292 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: Wow. I don't even know where to start with that rant. 293 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean, she's calling people sees for one, what is 294 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: with all these influencers going on the instant story and 295 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: dropping the sea bomb. Well, I think you fail in 296 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: any sort of reasonable argument when you start calling people 297 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: the sea word and people really aren't going to listen 298 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: or take what you're saying seriously. 299 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: I was pretty shocked as well, particularly when she has 300 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: a background in PR and marketing, as well as the 301 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: fact that she says she consults her brands on influencer marketing. Now, 302 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: if I was consulting to her, I would tell her 303 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: do not go on your Instagram story when you've had 304 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: no sleep and are drinking a beer and have a 305 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: go at people. The whole thing as well is a 306 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: lot of people probably didn't even know about it, and 307 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: she's just made them all aware of it now. 308 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: E's really right. She also didn't actually deny that they 309 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: were from Ali Barba, and then she said, oh, yeah, 310 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: they were sourced from China. She literally confirmed that they 311 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: were from Alibar. 312 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: That was the weirdest thing because when I was watching 313 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: this unfold live, I was like, oh my gosh, so 314 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: she's going to tell everyone that they're not from Ali Barba. 315 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: But then she seemed to defend the fact that they 316 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: were from Ali Barba because she told people weeks ago 317 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: that her friend was helping her source glasses. 318 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: It's like, what can I just say though, is well, 319 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: she mentioned that she'd sold five hundred glasses, well, five 320 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: hundred times thirty nine ninety five that's twenty grand, so 321 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: you are making a fair bit of cash for something 322 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: that you've just imported from Ali Barber. So let's just 323 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: be honest, and what do you guys think about the 324 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: whole issue of her claiming that people are money shaming 325 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: her because she's a woman. I'm sorry, people are not 326 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: money shaming you because you're a woman. People are shaming 327 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: you because you were completely misleading with your product. And 328 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: it's quite shameful to pretend that you created this brand 329 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: of glassware about your mother. I think it's a clear deflection, 330 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because then it's like, if you had to 331 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: say anything about this woman, then you are shaming her 332 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: because she's a woman. That is not true at all. Well, 333 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure men would get shamed if they pretended that 334 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: they created a product and it was sold on Alibar. 335 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: But it's got nothing to do with the fact that 336 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: she's a woman selling something. It's the fact that she 337 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: claimed that she had designed these glasses and it is 338 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: quite laughable that you can get them for a dollar 339 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: in Ali Barber. 340 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: I mean, shaming women over money is actually a legitimate thing. 341 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: And the fact that she used that as an excuse 342 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: to defer blame about the fact that she was misleading 343 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: with her products. 344 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: It's really frustrating. I mean, I think there is a 345 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: time and a place to use Ali Barber as a 346 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: way to source products. However, this was completely wrong. She 347 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: made it sound like she had literally blown the glass 348 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: for these glasses, which she does talk about. She says, Oh, 349 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: who's these idiots that think I was out there blowing 350 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: the glasses? Like, we did not think that, but you 351 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: would think that you were a part of the creative process. 352 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: It's like when influencers bring out clothing brands and they've 353 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: literally had no say in anything and literally like ticked 354 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: a box. This seems to be like this is a 355 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: new version of this. I did enjoy the line where 356 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: she said that she couldn't find the product in Australia, 357 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: so that's why she decided to create her own. It's like, oh, 358 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: so you so we couldn't have just ordered it on 359 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Ali Baba instead to Australia. 360 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: I am interested because they are bringing the glasses back 361 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: in February for Valentine's Day. I'm assuming. I wonder what 362 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: the uptake will be like or if people are just 363 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: going to go on Ali Barber and order their own. 364 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, probably, I think or is Ali Express that 365 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: you can get. 366 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: You can get one offs on Ali Express Ali Barbo's 367 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: where you sell multiple. 368 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean people would have to buy the glasses 369 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: in bulk in order to get one, but they could 370 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: probably get off Ali Express. 371 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I feel like I just won't. Maybe we'll 372 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: get some for the office, just for a bit of 373 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: a laugh, for a couple of dollars. They were pretty 374 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: cool glasses. They did look really good with the cocktails 375 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: in it. I saw, yeah, as if this ship storm 376 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: couldn't get any bigger. A fight has now broken out 377 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: between three mummy bloggers of Livia Right, Sarah Kerns and 378 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Smilf Now. Sarah Kerns has sixty thousand followers on Instagram. 379 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: She is a mummy blogger and runs a website with 380 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: her husband called Mum and Dad Life Now. Smilf is 381 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: a proud feminist and a single mum and she really 382 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: shows the reality of what life is like as a 383 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: single mother. Her page also does a lot to smash 384 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: down the patriarchy. 385 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: So what actually happened with these three? Because I was 386 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: trying to keep up on Instagram and there was a 387 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: lot of back and forth on their Instagram stories. And 388 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: it seems to have centered around an Instagram live that 389 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: smelf put up. 390 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Now, just to give some context, Smilf does not use 391 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: her real name on the Internet for personal reasons, and 392 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: so that's why we are referring to her as that. 393 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: So she put up an Insta store worry about the 394 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: glassware incident, saying, you know, say, I just realized why 395 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: she's called smilve yes single. Yeah, I just didn't even 396 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: realize that's soul. Yeah. So, basically, she put up an 397 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: Insta story calling Olivia out about the glassware incident. She 398 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: also did a live where she spoke about Olivia's friend 399 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: Sarah and her reaction to a follower telling Sarah that 400 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: she had something up her nose. I because I missed 401 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: the Instagram live and I was trying to piece together 402 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: what the hell was going on, and it cracked me 403 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: up that it was all over a booker. So Sarah 404 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: wrote on her Insta story, she wants us to be silent. 405 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: She wants to go onto a live video, make pig 406 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: noises and ridicule me for my profession, just to give contact. 407 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Sarah is a police officer. She wants to bring down 408 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: influences and the things they share. She then went on 409 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: to name Smilve, who has, as I mentioned, who has 410 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: previously tried to keep her name private. Sarah then continued 411 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: and said, the only impact you've made on the world 412 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: is a podcast on how to get the most out 413 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: of Center link and impersonating Amy Winehouse. Oh, shots fired. 414 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm just baffled how nasty some of these mummy bloggers 415 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: are getting. 416 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm not at all surprised, to be honest. They're probably 417 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: running on no sleep, They've got kids all around annoying them, 418 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: and then they're trying to use their social media and 419 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: people are being rude and I'd probably be firing. 420 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: My gosh, I can't imagine you, Kay is a mummy Well, 421 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: I can't imagine you as a mummy blogger going ape. 422 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm just surprised at this woman. She's a police officer 423 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: and she's able to be so public on social media 424 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: and to be engaging in these kind of fights, because 425 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: then it's like, what did she get the information through 426 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: her career or how did she name this woman that 427 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be named? Yeah, well smell. She was 428 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: pretty upset by it and sat on it for a 429 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: few hours to wait to give a dignified response, and 430 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: she explained that she was not bagging out Sarah's profession. 431 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: She explained that she has a complex relationship with police 432 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: given their treatment of minority groups, and she reiterated that 433 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: she does not hate influences. She simply holds them to 434 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: account and never says anything actually personal about influences. So 435 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: she then contacted Sarah asking her to please take down 436 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: her name, and she said, you know what if she 437 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: was hiding her personal details because of a domestic violence situation. 438 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: Sarah chose to reply it via email, and she allegedly 439 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: sent this email, which Smilf shared on her insta story. 440 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: She said, you need to stop talking about us and 441 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: defaming us and our friends. Otherwise we release your full name, 442 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: place of residence, mother, and everything else we found to 443 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: be public knowledge on the internet. This will occur across 444 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: four pages and two flat platforms, reaching a minimum of 445 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand people. At this point, we will then 446 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: happily engage in a legal battle. We will drown you 447 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: in costs, so I hope you engage your team on 448 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: a no win, no fee basis. We have saved every 449 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: one of your stories and have it documented as evidence 450 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: over the last six months. So has Sarah come out 451 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: and denied this was from her? Well, it was a screenshot, 452 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know how much denying can 453 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: go on. Yeah, so let's just just be clear for 454 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: legal reasons that it appears to be an email from her, 455 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: We're not one hundred percent sure this is something that 456 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: Smilf has shared onto her Instagram account. 457 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: Wow, that is a very intimidating email to receive, particularly 458 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: from someone that works in the police force. I would 459 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: not have wanted to be on the receiving end. 460 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Pretty sure it's probably not an official police letterhead though. Well. 461 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: The thing that I found quite awful if that email 462 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: is in fact from Sarah, is the fact that SMILF 463 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: has asked for her personal details to please be taken down. 464 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: And you know, if there is a domestic violent situation 465 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: involving her child and herself, that's putting her in a 466 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: very unsafe situation. So I really feel for Smilf. Yeah, 467 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: so do I. 468 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: Like, I just think it's so bizarre how it got 469 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: to a point where we're sort of laughing about Ali 470 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: Barber glasses, and it gets to a point where another 471 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: mummy vlogger is allegedly threatening to out this woman's personal information. 472 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: It's not having a job working twenty four to seven 473 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: for two days on the trock camus. 474 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Okay doing this shit. Now let's get into the influence 475 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: of rap and this one is a really sad one. 476 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: It involves Sophie's favorite fitness influencers, Steve Cook, my favorite, well, 477 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: Sanda love watching him. I also love watching his youtubes. 478 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: And what's really cool about Steve Cook is he has 479 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: an Australian girlfriend who is a gym Shark ambassador called 480 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Morgan Maroni. Now we have spoken about her before because 481 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: she did whatevery girl wants to do. She actually went 482 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: to Steve Cook's appearance a meet and greet with her 483 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time and met him and then later 484 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: it became his girl. So there's hope for everyone who 485 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: is a fangirl of anybody online. Now what's happened is 486 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: Morgan has been in Australia for the last six months 487 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: and she's gone to catch a flight over to America 488 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: to see Steve. Now, for anyone who watches Steve's YouTube channel, 489 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: they will know that Morgan was living in Utah with 490 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: him for about six months. And she had to leave 491 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: because her visa was up. So what's happened is Paul 492 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: Morgan's flown over to the US over the weekend. She 493 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: was held in immigration for sixteen hours before being told 494 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: she'd have to get on a plane and go back 495 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: to Australia and isolate for fourteen days. On her return, 496 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: Morgan told her Instagram followers. Immigration said the reason for 497 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: not allowing her entry into the country was Dui where 498 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: a previous visa extension earlier this year, which she said 499 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: was legally granted. So the reason for the extension was 500 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: due to the fact her flight home to Australia was 501 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: continually canceled due to COVID. So she said she'd share 502 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: more information on it. But it sounds really sad because 503 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: she wasn't even allowed to speak to Steve for nine 504 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: hours into the interrogation, because I remember she was supposed 505 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: to head back to Australia a few months earlier, and then, 506 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: as you say, the borders closed and she was there 507 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: for several months later. So yeah, it's really sad that 508 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: this has happened. I mean, it'd be so hard having 509 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: a long distance relationship with someone overseas during Covid Now 510 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I love this story. Influencer Britney Saunders has released a 511 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: new business venture and it's an active where line called 512 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: Form Active and in true influencer style, the line has 513 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: of course sold out and it's no surprise because it 514 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: looks amazing. It's been promoted so well with a diverse 515 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: range of models which are so great to see. I know, 516 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: I think some other influencers need to take a leaf 517 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: out of Britney Saunder's book, because not only did the 518 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: line look amazing and very sleep but I really want 519 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: to praise her for her use of diversity in their 520 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: marketing campaign. 521 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: Well, she's well known for doing that with her whimwear, 522 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: so it's great to see she's continuing on that really 523 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: good trend. 524 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Well in true Britney style. She took to Instagram and 525 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: to thank her followers for sticking by her, and I 526 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: thought this was really funny. She explained in her Instagram 527 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: caption that she'd gone from living in a little studio 528 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: apartment in Sydney, sleeping in until midday every day, and 529 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: she said she felt lost while she was making kmart 530 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: YouTube polls, and now she owns three brands and runs 531 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: a retail store in Newcastle. Yeah, it's really great to 532 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: see because she's grown into this amazing business woman who 533 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: has such a strategic mind and it's of course on 534 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: the ball with these sort of things. Yeah, it just 535 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: shows you that you can be talking about sort of 536 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: what seems like mindless things like km ut holes on 537 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: YouTube and you can actually grow your YouTube career into 538 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: a huge business like she has done. 539 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: It is interesting because we have been discussing a lot 540 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: of influencer led businesses at the moment, even today on 541 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: the podcast with House of White. However, I really think 542 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: you can tell the difference between influencers who are seer 543 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: about being business women and those that are just sort 544 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: of trying to flog off a product. And you can 545 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: see with Britney Saunders that she has really been strategic 546 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: about her businesses, the brand and the messaging she wants 547 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: to put out, and it really aligns with her own 548 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 2: personal brand, which is why I think it's been so successful. 549 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: We're just moving on to a relatively new trend. I 550 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: seem to be seeing a lot on Instagram at the moment. 551 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: Is all the influencers that keep teasing their new relationships online. 552 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: Have you guys noticed this one. Yeah, I have. It 553 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: seems like you know, obviously, social media has grown into 554 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: this huge thing where it is a big deal for 555 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: someone to introduce their boyfriend. When an influencer introduces a boyfriend, 556 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: they become in the spotlight themselves, they get new brand deals, 557 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: they get everything. But what they've also realized too is 558 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: that it's great marketing for them. If people think they 559 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: have a boyfriend, well, that makes them relevant. I mean, 560 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: we've seen Tullie Smythe trying to tease that she was 561 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: potentially out on a date with her ex Big Brother 562 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: housemate Drew Anthony, which ended up being a completely different 563 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: guy that she was on a date with. 564 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: And we also saw it with Chelsea McLoud from The Bachelor. 565 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: She was really kind of posting a lot of pictures 566 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: with this mystery man, and it does really make them 567 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: relevant again and get people talking, which is what they 568 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: presumably want. 569 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: Can I just say, Okay, it's actually Anthony Drew. Did 570 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: you know his real name is Anthony? Remember that? 571 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: Yes? 572 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: I do remember that, but he's known by Drew anyway. 573 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: But it was quite It's quite amusing because I heard 574 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: on Tully's podcast that she does it purposely, so she said, 575 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: to make people a little bit jealous. She will sometimes 576 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: include a man's arm in the background of her insistory 577 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: to make guys jealous. For people, Yeah, to make other 578 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: guys jealous or be like, who is that guy that 579 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: she's with? So she'll put a hint of a man's 580 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: arm in the background, which is exactly what she did 581 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: the other day on an Insta story. To be honest, 582 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: when I was single, I've done that trick before. You 583 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: try and put people in an insert story to make 584 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: others jealous, like your little cousins or something, My little cousins, 585 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: No tender's faux boyfriends. Isn't that what do we do 586 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: with my I did it with other people, not my 587 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: coins like Ben. Sorry, that's so funny. Well, another influencer 588 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: that has been teasing her boyfriend is Lily Brown, and 589 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: in a recent YouTube video, she actually mentioned him in 590 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: the title, so she said, and Bay is going to 591 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: be in the video. So I of course watched it, 592 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: but I fast forwarded to the point where her boyfriend 593 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: was apparently meant to appear, and it was in a 594 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: photo shoot. So did anyone see that photo of Lily Brown? Yeah? 595 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: And her boyfriend. It was just like these crude silhouettes 596 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: of body is that you could not tell who the fuck. 597 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: It was very pornography. Well, anyway, the weirdest thing was 598 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: though her mom was at that shoe, so the mom 599 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: was filming the behind the scenes vision and it was 600 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 1: like cutting off the guy's head, so you couldn't tell her. 601 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: She's not a regular mom, she's a cool mole. I 602 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: was gonna say, that does not surprise me. That fits 603 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: with her mom's em oh I believe. 604 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: Isn't m davies teasing a new love interest as well? Yeah, 605 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: so she's been on Instagram teasing a new boyfriend and 606 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: people have done their investigative work. They've worked out that 607 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: it's a guy called Joe Gamban who is a Perth 608 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: promoter with six thousand followers. I'm assuming that's going to 609 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: grow a lot now he's dating m Davies because he's 610 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: hopped on his Instagram story as well and shared a 611 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: photo over the weekend of him himself at the Ritz Carlton. 612 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: She shared a photo of herself at the Ritz Carlton, 613 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: so clearly they were there together. It's just the mathematics 614 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: of it, isn't it, it's the stalking mathematics of that 615 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: person being in the same location. They're just dropping clues. 616 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: But there was also she also included a shot of 617 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: his of half of his arm with his visible tattoos, 618 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: and also it was a side of his face. So 619 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: it is this what we're going to be seeing more 620 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: people on Instagram just sharing arms of different people. Is 621 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: it because their boyfriends aren't hot so they're trying to 622 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: make them No, I don't think it's that. It's like, oh, 623 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm just being really mature about it and not putting 624 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: my boyfriend all over in Instagram. Do you think it's 625 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: that thing where when you're dating, you're not really sure 626 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: whether to post a new guy on your Instagram, So 627 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's showing she's not that confident about the relationship. 628 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: I more think it's because they don't want people to 629 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: use them, so they're not wanting to tag them yet. 630 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: And also, like I think we've discussed this before, I 631 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: feel like once someone has been positioned as this incredible boyfriend, 632 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: they then get heaps of girls hitting up their DM, 633 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: so perhaps they're trying to stop that happening. Do you 634 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: know what I just agree? I actually think it's all 635 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: for their engagement, because can you imagine if Lily Brown 636 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: and m davies are putting up these Insta stories with 637 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: these hint of the guy's arm, people are noticing this 638 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: stuff and then they're forwarding onto their friend on Instagram 639 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: and we all know that that's gonna up the person's 640 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: engagement rate. 641 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: But just can I just say sent like now, likes 642 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 2: and comments are like bottom tier compared to actually like 643 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: forwarding posts and Instagram stories on as well as of 644 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: course saving them. So that's true, that could really be 645 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: an element to this. Definitely, we're just on M Davies again. 646 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: Quickly. She did address her recent breakup with Jake Saunders, 647 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: and this wasn't an Insta story, and she said she 648 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: keeps getting asked why did they break up? Now she didn't. 649 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: She of course didn't tell anyone why they broke up, 650 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: but she did say that they broke up in August, 651 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: and the easiest way to get over a breakup is 652 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: trusting your intuition. So that was a bit that was 653 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of shots fired, wasn't it. It was kind of 654 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: alluding that maybe he wasn't the best. Weird thing to 655 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: say that doesn't really make sense. But I suppose she's 656 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: saying that she now knows that he's done the wrong thing. Oh, 657 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: we're really surprised that it made no sense. No, we're 658 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: talking about Jake Saunders. He's been in a bit of 659 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: hot water this week. He's had to come out and 660 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: apologize profusely after you told his followers they should aspire 661 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: to become more than just an electrician or a nurse. 662 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to exactly what he said. 663 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: Because I am sick to death of hearing people setting 664 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: their goals so fucking low of I want to be sparky, 665 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: or I want to be a nurse, or I want 666 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: to do all this kind of stuff that's good in all, 667 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: but set your fucking goals higher, Like your life is 668 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: only what you make it, and you don't have to 669 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 4: work for the plan for the rest of your life. 670 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 4: I promise you spend a little bit of time working 671 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: out what you want to do, dump a little bit 672 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: of energy and money into it, start your own business, 673 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: and I guarantee within six months you'll have the same 674 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 4: mindset as I do now. I will never work for 675 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: anybody else ever again. 676 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: So basically, we should just aspire to be an influencer. 677 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Is that right? 678 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: Is that what he's trying to put out there? Yeah, 679 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: I mean I totally agree. Influencers have done so much 680 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: more for the world than nurses during the pandemic. 681 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: Well, he did come out and profusely apologize and he 682 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: said he was in the wrong and that he said 683 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: the wrong thing and that he does really really respect 684 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: electricians and nurses. 685 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, so we should. I don't even know who the 686 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: bloody hell he is really, Like, isn't he just famous 687 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: from m Davies. Yeah, basically, Okay, so we all should 688 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: just sort of date an influencer and write off their coachtails. 689 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: And now let's get into some shiny news. She has 690 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: told her followers that she will no longer be using 691 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: the Instagram filters anymore. And I personally think that this 692 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: is great because it is so misleading what is going 693 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: on on Instagram at the moment. Like, don't get me wrong, 694 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm all for using a filter that makes you look 695 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 1: a bit more tand but when you are altering the 696 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: appearance of your face, it is just going too far. 697 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: Oh, it's definitely gone too far. There's some people that 698 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, why are they all morphing in the same person. 699 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it was funny because we I think you'd 700 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: saved the shiny filter she'd been using, and we all 701 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 2: put it on ourselves and we literally couldn't believe it. 702 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: But then it kind of gives you this hang up 703 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: because you're like, oh, maybe my nose does look better thinner, 704 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: and my lips. 705 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: You got better bigger. It was literally a plastic surgery filter. 706 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: We put it on our friend who's a male, and 707 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: he was hilarious his response because he just looked totally 708 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: messed up when he put it on. He didn't look better, 709 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: he looked weird. Well, what I find weird is that 710 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: people that actually have had plastic surgery or lip fillers 711 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: are using the filter because it's like you've already got 712 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: the filler, but then you're trying to make your lips 713 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: look bigger, Like I noticed Sky Wheatley was using it 714 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: a bit, and it's just sort of I feel like 715 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: that's someone that would get a real hang up over 716 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: it and potentially then go and get plastic surgery to 717 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: look like the filter. It's just bad for the world. Really, 718 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: it's just so harmful for young girls. I couldn't even 719 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: imagine growing up with this sort of filter, because it 720 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: just makes you feel shit about yourself. The thing that's 721 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: quite ironic is these filters were released almost a year ago, 722 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: and it's really funny because when you go back through 723 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: your highlights to see old story as you shared it was, 724 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: the filter had those white dots over everything. You know, 725 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: you thought, oh, this looks really cool, And now I'm 726 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: annoyed because I saved all these videos like that and 727 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: it just looks stupid. I found this one really interesting. 728 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: For a few weeks now, Chloe Zepp and Mitchell Orvill 729 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: have been sharing about how they are on the hunt 730 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: for a new house, and Chloe shared on her story 731 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: this week asking her followers would they rather have a 732 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: large block of land or would they rather be a 733 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: walk from the beach. Wow, I'd be happy with either, 734 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: to be honest, those are two pretty premium selections. It's 735 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: really interesting because I feel like these big scale influences, 736 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: they have so much money, but no one seems to 737 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: purchase a house these days. When you look at Chloe 738 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: and Mitchell's house that they've rent at the moment, it's 739 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: on the river, it is an exquisite house. There's about 740 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: five different vedrooms. It is insane. This house, there's palm trees, 741 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: It is beautiful, But you think about how much money 742 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: they are just throwing down the drain on rent. Yeah, 743 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: but just because they're influencers, doesn't you know, it's not 744 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: like they're going to go and buy a small house somewhere. 745 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: Are the type of people that are earning a lot 746 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: of money. They might not have saved up a proper 747 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: but that's the thousands of dollars in rental fees that 748 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: you would presume these properties would cost. They're also setting 749 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: a real precedent of standard of living that they will 750 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: want to continue in the future. I mean, they're not 751 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: always going to be getting these big paydays, so why 752 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: not put money into a house now? I mean, the 753 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: housing market's only going to be keep going on. I 754 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: suppose we don't see what they're doing. They might be 755 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: buying investment properties that they might not particularly want to 756 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: live out. A lot of people do rent because they 757 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: actually just want to have that life. 758 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: But what we're saying is they're obviously paying a lot 759 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: of money to rent this premium house on the riverfront 760 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: that they could be putting towards their own and I. 761 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: Think it is a little naive because I think that 762 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: one day this whole influencer thing is going to dry 763 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: up a little bit when these people get older and 764 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: they're no longer well. My relevant has already experienced that, 765 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: and he's saying, Wow, I wish a couple of years 766 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: ago that I had just bought my house, because then 767 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to be moving like. I mean, everyone 768 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: knows what a pain in the ass that is being 769 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: in rentals. I'm not saying I'm not saying that. I'm 770 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: just saying that when you look at what a normal 771 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: person earns compared to what an influencer earns them x 772 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: amount on a house, doesn't seem like that big of 773 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: a yea. But what we're saying is there's not a 774 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: longevity in that career. I mean, you would be it 775 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: would be safe to say that they won't be earning 776 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: what they're earning now in you know, ten years time, 777 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: so it would be best that they actually started investing 778 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: in their future. But that's their business. I'm just saying. 779 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: I think the thing that is just sad for a 780 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: lot of influences is that they expect that to last. 781 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: And I think that it would be really helpful if 782 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: a lot of them got some financial advisors on board, 783 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: because they are earning a lot of money. But what 784 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: if they buy a house and you're saying that this 785 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: career is not going to last, then they're not going 786 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: to be able to pay off their mortgage. 787 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: Well, they could probably get a good chunk of the 788 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: mortgage done and then sell it at a anyway. 789 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean, some of these people are making millions of dollars. 790 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: No Amy, if you bought a million dollar house and 791 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: sold it in ten years time, I'm sure they will 792 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: make quite. 793 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: A bit off the house. Do you know what? 794 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: One thing I thought was quite amusing was the fact 795 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: that Chloe was like, yeah, Mitch, let's build a house 796 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: and we can do like you know, renaout series and 797 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: building series. And he's like, no, all the influencers are 798 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: doing that. 799 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: So it's quite funny because I would think that would 800 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: be a pretty good thing to monopolies on their YouTube channel. Well, 801 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I think that's all we have time for. Thank you 802 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: so much for joining us for today's episode. 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