1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: We would be singing a minute work song said twelve 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: hundred people. The men at work to be down the road, 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: so I don't need did the people party in the Beanies, 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: but the bands it was a way of like Cozy 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: and Lisa's pub drawn. 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: I was at an all girls high school in the 7 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: early eighties and we all wanted to be the jam Tarts. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: We thought they were the coolest thing to ever come 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: out of Frio, that's for sure. Jody Bell as our 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: guest this. 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: Morning on our pop Crawl. Good morning, Jodi. 12 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 4: Good morning over there. Wa Yes, yes. 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: Because you're in Melbourne Mills days. Yes, well, let's talk 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: about the jam Tarts. 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: Jody Bell, Lucy Lehman and the Gear Girls, Annagair and 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Sophie Gare. 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 3: How did you all meet? 18 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: Cool? Well, that's we all met at school because our 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: brothers went to school together. 20 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's a handy way to do it. 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 4: Gosh, listening to that song, gosh, we had high voices. 22 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: By things have changed now it's all dropped up, not down. 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 5: We're going to get you recreate that vocal effort. They're 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 5: live right now on Many from Melbourne. 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: I had that sound because it was you know it 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: was chassy, it was a bit you know, it was original. 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: You know, that was the big band. You know, the 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: jam Tarts were just the four girls and when we 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 4: h we do a set with the girls, then the boys, 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: our brothers would do a set that was the Nan 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: sink or Yes, yes, even though they weren't quartet, were 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: they were the quintet joined the band. Yeah, then we 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: do the sets at the end with all of us, 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 4: which was the big band. Which is that song that 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: you heard, which is you know great. The musicians they're 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: they're pretty incredible. 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you see like the Ocean's he's like 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 5: a local legend joining in. You know, the quality musicianship 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: was well and surely up there wasn't it. 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: Yes, he joined our band. I'll just remind you that. 41 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: He did on many awards every years because he's a. 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: Start j That was eighty six, but you guys were 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: around earlier than that. But were you underage when you 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: were performing in some of the pubs you were performing in? 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah. We had to have Kate, which was 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: Sophie and Anna and Adam's mum. Yeah, would try us 47 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: to all the gigs because we didn't have our license. 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: But when we'd go busking, we'd have to catch the 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: bus because no one wanted to give us a list 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 4: to that and catching a bus with a double. 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: Bay it's a little bit interesting, isn't it. 52 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: Well, it was better catching the bus time because invariably 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: it was mike'sar case that was full of money. 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: Ah are you talking? 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: Well? 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: You know how the straightcuttel what we were in a 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: fall make as much as possible, Hey, juddy, did it 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: start off as really serious, serious young things that were 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: you're just going to go, let's go and have some fun. 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: No, we're still not very serious. 61 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: No, we were. 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: Oh, look, you know, we all because that others played 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: music and we you know, we've all played music since 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: we were little, and we'd started singing, and harmonies were 65 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: our thing, you know, we just sing in the back 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: of the car. And I was the lobos. She had 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: the low, the good range down low. Lucy was like 68 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: the harmony mistress. She could find the great little harmonies 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: in between a third and the fifth, if you know 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. And yeah, and it was just 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: a great combination and we had such a good time. 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: It was such a healthy scene for playing in pubs. 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: They were all over, not just in the city and 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: in Fremantle, but all over the suburbs. Did you have 75 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: any favorites that she used to perform at. 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, there were were a lot of gigs, weren't there. 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: There was a lie a lot, but yeah, you. 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: Know, and we all had other bands as well. You know. 79 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: There I had a little another band with my brother 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: and with Sophie called Priscilla and the Pelvic Thrusters, And 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: you know, there was we went on tour with our 82 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: brothers and they had a roadie band. They were the 83 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: Roadies and they were called Brops on the Shore bea 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: because yeah, we have to play four or five nights 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: a week. It was great. I don't know what it's 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: like now. I know there were four if there were 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: four girls, I hate to say it, but if I 88 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: imagine if there was a band that had four gorgeous 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: young girls in it, they'd get five gigs and not 90 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: a week in a week as well, you know. 91 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, quite possible instagram sensations, but they. 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: Have to be good, they have to be good. Yeah. Yeah, 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: what was it like in the eighties. It was great fun. Yeah, 94 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: it was easy and free and yeah, now it's tough. 95 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: What was it like being an all female band booking 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: gigs and did it make it easier? 97 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: Did it make it harder? Did it have any effect 98 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: at all? 99 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: No, No, I think it did. Unfortunately it was We 100 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: were a bit of a novelty because of the girls. 101 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: But I suppose because we were good. 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Week you're back to you had to tell it. 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's right. And we worked hard at what 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: we did. We we you know, we'd have we'd rehearse 105 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 4: all the time and we ended up getting great gigs 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: with touring bands like we were whenever the Jonathan Jonathan 107 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 4: Richmond or Hunters and Collectors or will the Wilson Picketts. 108 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: What were they called, Yeah, the Wilson Picket. 109 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Remember Wilson Picket. 110 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there was a band called the Wilson Pickers. 111 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, Hunters would. 112 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jonathan Jonathan Richmond from Modern Lover as well, that's right. 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 4: We do that, like he'd come back to person with 114 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: he requests us to do is to do the supports. 115 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: But then we got the tour with Ben and Rick 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: now around Tailure and that kind of changed things as well. 117 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: You went to Edinburgh as well, the Fringe Festival. 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you believe it. We finished get there without 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 4: the internet or. 120 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Mobile Yeah, real phone and I reckon that was peak Edinburgh. 121 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: Just you know legendary time. 122 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Is that where Sophie met her future hubby Ben Elton. 123 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 4: No, we met Ben on tour okay, which were around 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: Australia with them. 125 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, gotcha, Hey, Jody, My managers can be ruthless, but 126 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: when it's Anna and Sophie's mum Kate being the manager. 127 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 5: Did she favor the girls or were you all good? 128 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 5: Was it all either? 129 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: She wouldn't, she'd favor Lucy and I. 130 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: Oh, very good because the kids were driving it crazy. 131 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: Probably it was so fun she was, She was absolutely legendary. 132 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: How the hell did she do that without computer? I 133 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: mean we've got easy now, we've got internet, we've got 134 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: mobile phones to track us down when we haven't come 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: home from you know, the nightclub. 136 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, she was probably using phone boxes and going to 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 5: the telics. Yeah, all that kind of stuffy hotel room. 138 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 139 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: I remember you are still well and truly doing music. 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: In ninety four you moved to Amsterdam, met Steve Purcell 141 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: and created boof which exists to this day and recently March. 142 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: I think it was you came back to town with 143 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: book for the first time. What was it a homecoming 144 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: of sorts? 145 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: Oh, it was so great. We had such a good 146 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: time and we had great gigs and I think we're 147 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: you know, everyone really liked us. We had a couple 148 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: of gigs in Perth in one in three, one in person. 149 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: Then we went down south and we played at Anna's 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: daughter's wedding, which. 151 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: Yes Denmark of course. Yeah, when she lives with the 152 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 3: tallest man in the world. 153 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. We had a great time and it 154 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: was such a fahoop for the Victoria musicians. You come 155 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: over to wet to the west and they just couldn't 156 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: believe it how beautiful it was. And we had great 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: weather and yeah, it was a lot of fun. And 158 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: hopefully we can do it again. Yeah, when we get 159 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: that festival gig or something. 160 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, i've just heard that the polices have said 161 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 5: out now they're not reuniting. But what about a jam 162 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: Tarts reunion? 163 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: Is that? 164 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Is that any chance in the future? 165 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: Oh geez, that'd be fun. We have to get paid, 166 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: we'd have to get lots and lots. 167 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: And lots of funny ellis. 168 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, might be able to arrange that you never know. 169 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: I taste the dollar down and train to death. 170 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we know the value of a buck. 171 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: That's right. 172 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been working since a young age. 173 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: You get it. I think you answered my question before 174 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: with the wedding gig. 175 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: I was going to say they still catch up with 176 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: the girls all the time. 177 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: In this it's Samblaman, who's Lucy's brother. Yeah, it's a 178 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: significant birthday next week, so there's quite a few West's 179 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: coming over for the birthday. 180 00:08:53,880 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: Okay, very good because yes, because rules the boys as well. 181 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: And you know we're all close. It's like family. Yeah. 182 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: And what age did we start saying significant birthday instead 183 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 5: of saying the number? 184 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: Well, let's face that six a long time ago. 185 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of years, and we. 186 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: Started in eighty two. Yeah, if you add that makes sense, well. 187 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Exactly, it is life the jam Tarts. 188 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: Gosh, it has been lovely to reminisce with you this 189 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: morning as we continue our Perth pub crawl back to 190 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: the eighties. Joanie, thank you so much. 191 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: Oh that's so nice to have me. And you didn't 192 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 4: I didn't answer that question of which was the best 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: gig in Frio. Oh yeah, in pers we used to 194 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: play out all the time, and it would have to 195 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: be the Sunday session at the Seed. 196 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: I see, you see now Sunday sessions. 197 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: You try to explain a Sunday session to the young 198 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: people these days, and they just they cannot grasp the enormousy, 199 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: the enormity of what was the Sunday session When things 200 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: were things just cut off at eight o'clock. You had 201 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: to get in there and you had to kill the 202 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: end of that weekend you had. 203 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: It was like, we're got to work tomorrow. 204 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 5: I'm going to do something school night school. 205 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: Yea, thank you, okay, bye for having me. Bye.