1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: It is thirteen minutes away from eleven o'clock. And well, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: we're going to head across right now and catch up 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: with our old mate, Jerry Wood. Good morning to you, Jerry, Good. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: Morning, Katy. Not too much stress on the old bit 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: very much. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, you've been our friends for a long time. You've 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: been our friend for a long time, Jerry. That's what 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: I made. 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Jerry. 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Or before I ask you about these boundary changes, mate, 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: how the petrol price is looking out in the rural area. 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Oh, well, terrible, but I don't think we knew anything 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: about it. The world has gone a bit crazy, and 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: that craziness is affecting the world supplier fuel. And of 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: course it's a market, and that market reacts to what's happening. 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: And we're at the bottom end of the chain, and 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: we paid more because that's the way it is. I 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: don't like it, but I'll use my I've got a tricycle. 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: I use that a fair bit of gay shopping and 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: that doesn't cost any fuel. Yeah, that's better for me. Well, 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: it might make more people use public transport. I know 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: we have two express buses going from the rural area 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: every morning, and I'd love to see more people park 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: their cars in the parking area is set aside and 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: homp to Do and cool Inger and I think that's 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: that's one way to save some money and avoid the 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: extra prices of the increasing prices. 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is something that we can all look at. 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've got a regular jobing down, then you 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: need to just go there and back every day. You 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: will catch us. 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, Jerry, I am just looking out in the 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: Litchfield area today with the with the hang on. Let 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: me double check. I think I'm on the diesel prices 35 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: here and the Sampalms roadhouse a dollar eighty eight. What 36 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: a pack of legends they are. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it cost me that much to get out there. 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: And still if you've got someone coming back in and 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: tell them to throw a few Jerry Cans on the back, 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: it might make a few dollars on the side. 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, good time, good plan. Now, Jerry, we've got you 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: on the show this morning because there's been a bit 43 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: of talk about these boundary changes and what they're going 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: to mean. I know that Palmerston, it's meant that they're 45 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: sort of picking up some of the industrial area. But 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: you want to have a chat to me as well 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: about what it potentially means for the rural area and 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: the hospital. Is that right? 49 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Well, the government has said and the Chief Minister has 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: come out and said, well, we're going to put five 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: thousand blocks of land out past the hospital into what 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: they call always a fancy named greater Holds, well just 53 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: gought Holts, no greater than any other part of Holes. 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: But the area there is rural. We've asked for years 55 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: for that to be developed as a rural subdivision. There 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: is a moratorium on boards at the moment, but we 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: know that there's been quite a few rural subdivisions developed 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: over the years in the rural area using town water. 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: And there's no reason why the government couldn't continue with 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: what was planned for that area. That it would be rural, 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: and we do understand that there would be need to 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: be some sort of suburban development around the hospital. But 63 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: you know what I see is a government that is 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: hats lacking in vision, unlacking in you might say, an 65 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: effort to build a new city of Wdell, because what 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: you're doing is starting to look for a spot, well, 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: we can put some houses there. There's another vacant plan somewhere. 68 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: I will put some houses there. That's sort of, you know, 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: not real planning. It's sort of convenient sort of planning 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: to avoid the long term vision that we should have 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: for a new city. And what I'm hoping is that 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: my two local members, Jerrem Mailey who's took over from 73 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: me and from who also lives in the whole area, 74 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: maybe able to convince the CLP that here's an opportunity 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: to do something a little different, because I've got a 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: feeling THELP is supporting the government on this issue, whereas 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: I think they should be I think putting their best 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: foot forward and saying hang on, we'll put a proposal 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: forward that we'll get some federal government funny money under 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: the one of these cities campaigns that you can get 81 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: some money under and start to work on previous work 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: that was done about ten years ago on developing Wordell. 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: So there was a company that came up from both 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: Brisbane and Melbourne and did major workshops about ten years ago. 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: And also Tropo Architecture might know they did substantial work 86 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: on designing subdivisions for the Wodell area. Now that's all 87 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: sitting in a shelf at the moment, and that could 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: be used as the basis of moving this development on, 89 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: because I just think that the government doesn't really know 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: what it's doing. If you put five thousand blocks where 91 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: they are saying they will be all starting blocks, because 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: a lot of that area has some environmental restrictions. It's 93 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: part of the King River catchment and there's a large catchment, 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: a large paper ark wetlands in that and I don't 95 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: know where they've taken that into account. They've also built 96 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: the new don Dale Youth Center up near the new prison, 97 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: and in their plans they show that it's going to 98 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: be suburban. Well, the reason the government gave in to 99 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: the developers about moving the existing Dondale Center or not 100 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: redeveloping it because those developers that are we won't be 101 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: able to sell land if you leave that don Dale 102 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: Center there, which I think is a load of rubbish 103 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: to you on us. You just put a little buffer 104 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: around it and it's secure. So they've built one out 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: in the rural area and if you look at the maps, 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: they show suburban development right up against the fence. So 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: I just think they would be far better off to 108 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: develop that land in one or two hect their blocks 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: give people the option of having instead of buying in 110 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: a suburban development, of having an option of bringing and 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: raising a family. As I always say, with a few 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: chocks and the horse, a bit of bush and give 113 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: a bit of space to people. And I still think 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: the healthiest place to bring up kids is where they 115 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: can do things for themselves, not always relying on sitting down, 116 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: playing on the on the computer or on the phone, 117 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: but have a bit of space where they can get 118 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: out and do practical things. 119 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Get out and about well. 120 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: I just think that that's one of the advantages living 121 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 2: in the rural area, which I honestly feel at times 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: the government doesn't recognize. And I just think that this 123 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: time that the government won't do it. Then I think 124 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: Jared and Keysier that convinced the leadership, look, let's come 125 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: out and put plans forward for developing a good sustainable 126 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: tropical city, well designed, and that would be without one 127 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: other thing you could prossibly do with a new city. 128 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 2: I've mentioned that some years ago. Is you know that 129 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: there's m K two the light aircraft airstrip, Yeah, yep, fairly, 130 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: which is fairly limited in it. It's possible expansion because 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: a lot of the land around it is very wet. 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: But I've always thought that building a new town or 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: city of Widell, you could look at building something like 134 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: you have it Moraman, maybe not as busy, but a 135 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: light aircraft area where people could have hangars there. There 136 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 2: could be workshops there, and we could have an airstrip 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: there which was not associated with the raft base, one 138 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: that could be privately run for those people using light aircraft, 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: and perhaps they could reduce the cost of people using 140 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: the raft base, but also still be fairly close to 141 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: the town. 142 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Well, Jerry, I think there's certainly a lot lot there 143 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: for people to take in and a bit further discussion about. 144 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: But we'll make sure that we do talk more about it. Mate, 145 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: we've missed you on the radio. It's good to have 146 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: you back on. 147 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I haven't lived anywhere. I've got any work 148 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: to do on the weekend. Yeah no, no, no shortage 149 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: your work. 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Well, don't worry. We'll start talking to you a bit 151 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: more and uh and chat to you a bit more 152 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: on here I reckon. 153 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: Okay, all on you Jerry. 154 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: Lovely to talk to you this morning. Thanks for your time. 155 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you.