Speaker 1: Hey legend, Welcome back to the Mason cock Show. Big
Speaker 1: Things Happening. We've got a review of last week's big games.
Speaker 1: Carlton big w over there at the MCG was a rocket. Also,
Speaker 1: we do a preview of this week's games coming up
Speaker 1: the best and worst from the weekend. We have a
Speaker 1: new merch item dropping that is at the very end
Speaker 1: of this podcast. You have to listen through this. And
Speaker 1: also lastly, I've got to give a shout out there
Speaker 1: as a special special mom we're gonna mention on this podcast.
Speaker 1: And you know we love mothers here, so make sure
Speaker 1: you look out for that one. But without further ado,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Without further ado. Welcome Brendon, Let's
Speaker 1: get into it.
Speaker 2: Oh Mason, it's finally here. Prelim final week. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I can't tell if you're nervous or not. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to gauge your vibe, but I'll leave that for now.
Speaker 2: Let that settle as we jumped straight into our klang
Speaker 2: is what do you got?
Speaker 1: You know we love mothers on this podcast, and there
Speaker 1: was one mother that might have been Bog of the weekend.
Speaker 1: It was probably be o Og maybe best on off No,
Speaker 1: best off ground. She's still beg best off ground mom.
Speaker 1: We got there in the end. Toby Bedsford Toby Bedford's
Speaker 1: mom from GWS. She let's just say I had a
Speaker 1: few shampus over the weekend right at the game, as
Speaker 1: you do. Yeah, it's rude not to you're in enemy territory,
Speaker 1: You're sitting there. Big win for the boys, and she
Speaker 1: decided to, you know, get a mic thrown in her
Speaker 1: face and make some just really loving comments and it
Speaker 1: was absolute TV gold all. I'm gonna quote these now.
Speaker 1: I cannot be prouder. I'm just like Giant. The Green
Speaker 1: Army is coming. I don't know if anyone updated her.
Speaker 1: It was the Orange Army is what they call themselves.
Speaker 1: So she did apologize to straight after that. I said
Speaker 1: what I said, Green Collingwood are quaking because the earth
Speaker 1: is a shaking. Now I'm not sure if that was
Speaker 1: her visual on the night, is just everything was shaking
Speaker 1: or what was going on, but very good comments from
Speaker 1: her and Hamish. I think she came up when Stephen
Speaker 1: Kinderglar was getting interviewed after the game and he ushered
Speaker 1: her off pretty quickly. Let's just say that it was
Speaker 1: absolute TV goal.
Speaker 2: I couldn't deal with that one. I don't do well
Speaker 2: in awkward moments or awkward situations, and that almost just
Speaker 2: taught me.
Speaker 1: And then your mom's sitting there, just the one that's
Speaker 1: just lighting it up after the game.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do the same thing. I was very
Speaker 2: much doing the exact same thing. But I normally I'm
Speaker 2: at home on the couch, I'm not on National TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the mic in your face, I feel like
Speaker 1: they almost were like trying to get her on TV
Speaker 1: because she was absolutely hilarious on the night. What is
Speaker 1: your claimer for this week?
Speaker 2: Well, I went more football orientated and I just have
Speaker 2: to say that to me, it was a no brainer
Speaker 2: and it's a real hindsight operator type setup. But the
Speaker 2: non selection of Brodie Grundy in the Melbourne team, because
Speaker 2: it's really hard no matter what way you spin it.
Speaker 2: To me, it doesn't make sense. If you're talking about
Speaker 2: going into the game. Max Gorn has some question marks
Speaker 2: over his fitness. Broken toe. We heard it all week.
Speaker 2: So if you have your ruck who's going into the
Speaker 2: game with an injury, why wouldn't you pick up the
Speaker 2: backup all Australian ruckman that you just have just chilling
Speaker 2: all the comments said throughout the year of like, oh,
Speaker 2: we still really value him and like respect him, and
Speaker 2: he's a Melbourne player until the end of the season,
Speaker 2: and see what happens from there. But for him not
Speaker 2: to get picked and they roll with Josh Shacky and
Speaker 2: then to not put Josh Shacky into the game and
Speaker 2: you lose by less than a goal what he has done,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense, like pick Brody Grundy. He's
Speaker 2: a good player. There's definitely no chance, no way that
Speaker 2: it would have been a professionalism thing on Brady Grundy's
Speaker 2: point of view, Like I've zero doubt in my mind
Speaker 2: knowing him and spending time with him that he's true
Speaker 2: professional and he'd go out there and give one hundred
Speaker 2: and ten percent and one hundred and ten percent of
Speaker 2: Brodie grund he's a hell of a lot better than
Speaker 2: no such getting into the game and playing every any minutes.
Speaker 2: So it has to be the biggest clanger. It's easy
Speaker 2: in hindsight because you go like, well, clearly, but I
Speaker 2: would have said that going into the game.
Speaker 1: I kind of found it amazing if they actually made
Speaker 1: the broken toe of Maxicon public I would not say anything. No,
Speaker 1: I want to know. Yeah, I don't know why that
Speaker 1: was necessary information for them to tell the public. Thought
Speaker 1: that I was like all the week, I was going
Speaker 1: like if I was Max One, I wouldn't want anyone
Speaker 1: to know. I'd be like, you know, I'll just go
Speaker 1: hide this injury. It's inside a shoot. No one even
Speaker 1: see me like walking around with any kind of bandage
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: XN on the Roken bay Ota, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't know what that means Latin.
Speaker 2: Fact, don't talk about the.
Speaker 1: Language, mads Well and truly dead.
Speaker 2: It's Latin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dead if anyone that speaks Latin, it's a spoken word.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the games. Melbourne versus Carlton Massive Massive game.
Speaker 1: Obviously probably everyone knows exactly what happened on this, but
Speaker 1: we're going to break it down moment by moment. Now
Speaker 1: there's a crowd of ninety six, four hundred and twelve people.
Speaker 1: Pretty good, That is a lot, pretty good, and see
Speaker 1: figured it out. Get the other four thousand in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Obviously Carlton heavy game crowd was ballistic.
Speaker 2: A lot of reports going around all the that you
Speaker 2: could feel the earth shaking and the stadium was quaking
Speaker 2: and the Acres goal that sealed it all off. It
Speaker 2: was pretty nute.
Speaker 1: It was loose, it was I think the one thing
Speaker 1: made me realize how loud it was is you know,
Speaker 1: you get the last camera angle like they go straight
Speaker 1: to like crips the captain or something right as the
Speaker 1: sirron goes and the cameraman, who I'm assumming was just stagnant,
Speaker 1: right and stable. It was shaken all over there. Earth
Speaker 1: was a quaked. It was usual that Toby Bedford's mom
Speaker 1: was getting on the night and oh man, it was.
Speaker 1: It sounded like an absolute colse, which is wild because
Speaker 1: it was actually a Melbourne home game, which is even
Speaker 1: funnier because I was looking at the mcc win I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all red.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well like there is. There's been a few conflicts
Speaker 2: with these home games this final series, but no, it's
Speaker 2: good to say them. It's good to see Carlton fans
Speaker 2: up and about. I think how we should do this.
Speaker 2: We should go through the good the bad of each
Speaker 2: team and we'll start with the team that suck. So
Speaker 2: we'll jump into Melbourne. Melbourne four consecutive finals losses at
Speaker 2: the MCG not what you want to hear as a
Speaker 2: Melbourne fan, and back to back straight set losses.
Speaker 1: No ideal. I think it was kind of like that,
Speaker 1: Like I guess the story before they even went into
Speaker 1: this game of like, oh, there's a bit of pressure
Speaker 1: that could go back to back straight sets, and I
Speaker 1: just kind of got to the point where I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, like you're in finals that point, it's like
Speaker 1: every team you're playing is cream of the crop, right,
Speaker 1: and like there's some teams that are obviously on a roll,
Speaker 1: like Carlton was, and then there's other teams that you know,
Speaker 1: you're playing the top four, which are the best teams
Speaker 1: in the comp right, So it's always tough to win
Speaker 1: those games, but to go back out in straight sets,
Speaker 1: it's it's going to be frustrating, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's yeah, definitely like we knew Carlton GWS
Speaker 2: even like the other two Sydney and who else went
Speaker 2: out in the first week, kildo like they were all competitive.
Speaker 2: The bottom four of the top eight was still really
Speaker 2: competitive and probably arguably in better form than a couple
Speaker 2: of the top four teams. But yeah, it didn't help
Speaker 2: their goalkicking accuracy in the last because it like Melbourne
Speaker 2: kicked two six in the last to Carlton's four too,
Speaker 2: So you flip that around and yeah, there was some
Speaker 2: easy shots, some poor discipline, like I take it back
Speaker 2: to Picketts jump a punch on McGovern that handed away
Speaker 2: like a free shot at goal. Like there was a
Speaker 2: lot of incidents like that, Sparrow pulling Walsh into the fans,
Speaker 2: giving way free kicks just like dum dumb stuff like
Speaker 2: that that gives away field position. You got to reset,
Speaker 2: you give away a goal, like you can't do that
Speaker 2: stuff in finals. Scores added like hard to come by.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1: Costly mistakes and you talk about like them. I think
Speaker 1: what was the Melbourne like nine to seventeen to Carlton
Speaker 1: eleven seven on the day, Like they have plenty of
Speaker 1: shots at goal and I think there's like two or
Speaker 1: three of that hit a post and then you're sitting
Speaker 1: there going like one of those converts then you win
Speaker 1: the game. So it's this thing of whenever you get
Speaker 1: a chance and finals you got to make the most
Speaker 1: of it whenever it comes in front of goal, especially
Speaker 1: if you're in a such shot scenario, and there's there's
Speaker 1: so many that I feel like we're that close to
Speaker 1: being a goal that could have just gone to of
Speaker 1: kept them in that momentum and be able to get
Speaker 1: them across the line, but unfortunately it just didn't fall.
Speaker 2: For now, there was a few incidents in the game,
Speaker 2: and we have kind of touched on the just shacky
Speaker 2: non sub call. Is that something that you're likely to
Speaker 2: see in a game that it's like you have a
Speaker 2: guy in there and you just don't just decide to
Speaker 2: use him because they used Hollins and he came on
Speaker 2: and had an impact, was involved in the last play
Speaker 2: which led to the winning goal. So like, especially the
Speaker 2: contrast of your sub coming on and doing something when
Speaker 2: the opponent doesn't even use theirs, it's like highlighted to
Speaker 2: the extreme.
Speaker 1: I think, like we talked about this before the pod
Speaker 1: was he was supposed to go in for what Max
Speaker 1: go on if you needed to come off, and then
Speaker 1: Tom McDonald go into the rock. So the fact that
Speaker 1: Max was like, no, I'm good to play out the game. Obviously,
Speaker 1: as a captain, you'd want to see out the rest
Speaker 1: of the game no matter what your kind of injury
Speaker 1: is they kind of put this awkward position of like
Speaker 1: do we play him given this scenario isn't playing out
Speaker 1: as we wanted it to, knowing that he would have
Speaker 1: to go to that key forward role shacky. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I mean, like we I think
Speaker 1: about it. Whenever we played our last game, getting came
Speaker 1: on in the fourth like halfway through the four, so
Speaker 1: I think, like, we didn't pull our sub until you know,
Speaker 1: the very end of the game, and he was able
Speaker 1: to make impact and that short amount of time he
Speaker 1: out out there. But like that game plan they probably
Speaker 1: had as far as using the sub probably didn't play
Speaker 1: out as they wanted it to. And then as the
Speaker 1: game went on, I assume Max would have just pulled
Speaker 1: the card and said, like, no, I'm going to play
Speaker 1: this out because I want to win this game. And
Speaker 1: it was. It was a close game and everything else too,
Speaker 1: See like Melbourne goes up early, probably put Shack in,
Speaker 1: and like Max comes off and it's like, great, we're
Speaker 1: going to arrest him. He could try to get better,
Speaker 1: like you know, everything goes well. But given the fact
Speaker 1: it was such a tight game, I don't think you
Speaker 1: really want to pull your captain out in that scenario.
Speaker 2: They kind of backed themselves into the corner rolling the
Speaker 2: dice on the Shecky sub because their forwards were actually
Speaker 2: pretty good. Like you got Fritch and you got Smith,
Speaker 2: who was like the most accurate on the day, kicking
Speaker 2: three straight. You got pick it. It's like, who do
Speaker 2: you take off? He's not going to inject like any
Speaker 2: speed into the game. We're going to keep Max going
Speaker 2: out there. We need him.
Speaker 1: But if it didn't play out that way, like given
Speaker 1: the fact that how a lot of people are talking
Speaker 1: about the forwards of Melbourne whenever they played us, and
Speaker 1: they weren't performing at what a lot of people expected
Speaker 1: them to, you're probably almost going okay, Like if they
Speaker 1: have the same kind of game I guess that they
Speaker 1: had the week before, then we might try to change
Speaker 1: something up and throw them in there and throw them
Speaker 1: in the mix and see if he can kind of
Speaker 1: maybe give us a bit of a burst of energy.
Speaker 1: So I can understand both sides of that, but not
Speaker 1: using a sub just almost seems like a waste whenever
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to get a bit of fresh legs
Speaker 1: into the.
Speaker 2: Game massively, And we talked about picket giving away a
Speaker 2: free kick on McGovern. He also had an incident jeez,
Speaker 2: similar to his incident earlier in the year where he
Speaker 2: like jumped off the ground and rocketed into I think
Speaker 2: it was Bailey Smith's head and it could have killed in.
Speaker 2: But he's jumped off the ground and kind of collected
Speaker 2: Crips in the face with his back head almost.
Speaker 1: Shoulder and missed him. Yeah, cooked his head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Crips went down bleeding from the mouth. Had
Speaker 2: to come from the ground. Picket got a week kind
Speaker 2: of lucky in the end.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. As soon as his feet left the ground,
Speaker 1: I was like, he's in trouble, he's a strife.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's bad that you don't learn from the.
Speaker 1: First time, because the AFL would be going, we told
Speaker 1: you not to do this. You're learning from your license.
Speaker 1: We will punish you. That's what I did. They gave
Speaker 1: him a week, man, And I mean, I guess at
Speaker 1: this time, they're probably not the top thing on your
Speaker 1: mind after just losing and getting knocked out of the
Speaker 1: you know, out of your season. But yeah, obviously won't
Speaker 1: play the first game of the season next year. But
Speaker 1: she's a pretty steeple on that Melbourne team, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure it'll come in round too and be right in it.
Speaker 2: And should we move across to Carlton's game celebrate a
Speaker 2: bit of what the Blues have been able to do
Speaker 2: because it's their first time they've played in a prelim
Speaker 2: since the year two thousand. How old were you?
Speaker 1: I was young. I was young, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: I don't even know I was nine. It was nine
Speaker 1: years old. Let's just say I remember why two k
Speaker 1: I remember the Internet was going to go down. We're
Speaker 1: all going to end up losing ourselves and you know,
Speaker 1: everything was just gonna ship, was gonna hit the fan,
Speaker 1: We're all going to die, and that happened. We just
Speaker 1: keep taking along.
Speaker 2: How tall were you when you were nine?
Speaker 1: I think it's probably like six foot eight. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was just.
Speaker 2: Got it done early, that's it.
Speaker 1: No, I would have been normal height, mate, normal height.
Speaker 2: And we've spoken about Robbie Williams two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: It's getting a bit of media. Old Bobby Williams loven't it.
Speaker 2: He is a jinx for Sydney. And then Carlton made
Speaker 2: the pitch to say, hey, come across and get on
Speaker 2: the Carlton Bandwagon and he jumped on board and he
Speaker 2: sung a song postgame after the Blues won about Tom
Speaker 2: de Kerney. What was it?
Speaker 1: Please tell the rendition? What is it?
Speaker 2: It was like Lovers in the Air, but with Tom Deckurney.
Speaker 1: Sure, but just like he was like sitting in bed,
Speaker 1: which I just felt was really awkward to be filming
Speaker 1: anything in bed, just kind of the place.
Speaker 2: Williams he does his best work there, you think, do
Speaker 2: you think? But it's been a pretty crazy final series
Speaker 2: for someone that we can celebrate, celebrate Blake Acres the Sheriffs.
Speaker 2: He's had some kind of final series because the first
Speaker 2: game he nailed a couple of touches on the line
Speaker 2: that saved goals and kicked the sealer. And he's done
Speaker 2: it again, kicked the celer with a cook shoulder. He's
Speaker 2: just going out there and doing it all.
Speaker 1: One half contested mark at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: A bit of questions around, wait, holder, how much space
Speaker 1: do I have? I'll dribble this one through. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't like I mean, it was close to the pole.
Speaker 1: I feel like the post was there and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there watching it, going, oh gosh, he's playing on here like,
Speaker 1: oh no, what is he gonna do? But can you
Speaker 1: imagine if he took the mark, came back and slaughtered
Speaker 1: the set shot with the suspense of the crowd and
Speaker 1: everything else, and essentially at the siren he's kicking the goal.
Speaker 2: I hope everyone was okay out of that situation. You
Speaker 2: cut to the white shot and they were going ballistic.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Now the amount of people that have posted the photos
Speaker 2: of their like smart watch going like their heart was beating,
Speaker 2: Like surely there's some old people in there. So I
Speaker 2: hope everyone's okay. But yeah, it was. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's been pretty specially he's had a great final series
Speaker 2: and speak about a great final Sam Walsh thirty four touches,
Speaker 2: two goals, eight tackles.
Speaker 1: He's just killing it. To throw them into the wall
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He's still going to get some touches and
Speaker 1: he's doing some goals.
Speaker 2: And he has built into it because he was injured
Speaker 2: earlier in the season and started playing games and was
Speaker 2: accumulating a lot and people were questioning the damage that
Speaker 2: he was doing in games. Well, yeah, he really took
Speaker 2: it away from him in this one. It was a
Speaker 2: really impressive performance whenever he came.
Speaker 1: Back and started playing. You, I think that's probably whenever
Speaker 1: they started turning around their season. So you got to say, like,
Speaker 1: he's one of those players that maybe is able to
Speaker 1: kind of break lines and be able to get them
Speaker 1: to that next step to get to the forward line,
Speaker 1: because that was a big issue in that first half
Speaker 1: of the season. So to have someone who kind of
Speaker 1: connects the back line to the forward line, similar to
Speaker 1: like Nick Decos for us, right, like he'll take people
Speaker 1: on hit forty five's like hit people that you probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do. That just allows the ball
Speaker 1: to get moving forward, to be able to get access
Speaker 1: to the forward line. So I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: the wash effect for Carleton. That's going to helped them
Speaker 1: solve some of the issues from the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it does take the pressure off the others
Speaker 2: in their midfield. When you've got a bloke in there
Speaker 2: getting thirty five, he needs a bit of attention. Jacob
Speaker 2: Wiedering there was a scary moment for Carlton fans heart
Speaker 2: and mouth stuff where he laid a tackle and cupped
Speaker 2: his shoulder to what the AFL is calling neck and
Speaker 2: throat area, and he got up very woozy and you know,
Speaker 2: unsteady on his feet. You could say.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a wabble.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say anything that can get the
Speaker 2: cart and lawyer on to me. So, yeah, the AFL
Speaker 2: has ticked it off. You got the all clear. Carlton
Speaker 2: put him through a quick assessment and went he's all sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So happy days for Wetering and the Carlton fans. But
Speaker 2: it would have been a very nervous moment, as was
Speaker 2: a very nervous moment of Doc actually dislocating his shoulder
Speaker 2: in the first half and it kind of looked done
Speaker 2: for him, and then he came back out and played
Speaker 2: out the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: It was insane, like I've ever seeing that, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, like one of our favorite players
Speaker 1: has gone like he's done. And then next thing you know,
Speaker 1: he's like DEVI was strapped mob figure it out, and
Speaker 1: he's back on the magic that happens down in those rooms.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they're doing with the dark and stuff,
Speaker 1: but you'd think they're doing some kind of like cyber
Speaker 1: arm thing board.
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is and if it isn't, they've got
Speaker 1: a perfect lawyer to figure it out, Brandon. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it was incredible and for him to come back and
Speaker 1: play obviously like it's yeah, it's a massive deal for him.
Speaker 1: We talked about like his first final teen years into
Speaker 1: his career, like you know, the first round. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an incredible opportunity for him. I'm sure he would
Speaker 1: be that amped up to be a part of it
Speaker 1: and just wanted to be out there. So I can
Speaker 1: understand that he came out and he did his job.
Speaker 2: I feel like Doc is one of those blocks that
Speaker 2: you'd have to rip his arm off and he'd probably
Speaker 2: still be out there running around just bandaged up. It
Speaker 2: was what you know when you sometimes you see a
Speaker 2: bloke go down, You're like, oh, he's Knight's done. I
Speaker 2: wonder when they're going to pull the sub and stuff,
Speaker 2: And then like a couple of minutes later, you see
Speaker 2: him just like trotting down the wing or something.
Speaker 1: Actually without any issue, no limping, know nothing, and you're like,
Speaker 1: what has happened? How is this possible?
Speaker 2: That magic spray? I tell you that's wild.
Speaker 1: But we'll move on to the next one. Poort Adelaid
Speaker 1: versus GWS at Adelaide Oval and the capacity here is
Speaker 1: fifty five, sorry, fifty three, five hundred eighty three. There
Speaker 1: were only forty five and twenty and I say only,
Speaker 1: but like, what's be realistic. That's still really good turnout
Speaker 1: for Port Adelaide. But probably I was thinking this was
Speaker 1: going to be a sellout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of people, I don't know,
Speaker 2: questioning it during the week, Port Adelaide fans unsure if
Speaker 2: they were going to sell it out. I saw people
Speaker 2: posting like the seating and saying that, you know, it
Speaker 2: was pretty slow ticket sales, whereas you look at something
Speaker 2: like Collingwood GWS is gone. That's gone. You can't get
Speaker 2: tickets to that game. So yeah, it was. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was a reflection of like the pricing,
Speaker 2: or if it was a reflection of like the belief
Speaker 2: in where the team sits after a loss going against GWS,
Speaker 2: the almighty Legend bills now, but forty five still a
Speaker 2: pretty good still, still a pretty good turnout. We don't
Speaker 2: want to take the piss too much, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the one thing that just immediately jumps off the
Speaker 2: page port kicking one nine or having one to nine
Speaker 2: score in the last they could have done some damage.
Speaker 1: I mean, Gobois had the momentum the whole game, like
Speaker 1: first quarter came out and they were just marking everything.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was just one of those days
Speaker 1: where Jesse Hogan was on. He was just being able
Speaker 1: to clunk everything was he kicked I think four to
Speaker 1: four on the day. And there's a certain point there.
Speaker 1: I feel like gwis they missed a few set shots
Speaker 1: essentially right before half I think it was, and a
Speaker 1: few like snaps on goal and that could have just
Speaker 1: put this game over with before halftime even happened. But yeah,
Speaker 1: going into that fourth quarter, I mean, if you look
Speaker 1: at one to nine and the difference is, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty three points, you kick a few of those, it's
Speaker 1: a legitimate game like between the two even though like
Speaker 1: you haven't been really ahead by any means the whole
Speaker 1: game from then forward, So it into the first three.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you get the crowd into a man like
Speaker 1: everyone knows port out of loads fans are crazy and
Speaker 1: they provide a bit of an entertainment aspect to it.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 1: one of those things, like I said we said earlier,
Speaker 1: like goal kicking accuracy in this in finals is so
Speaker 1: important and it's a thing that can really determine games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think because GWS had that well, they
Speaker 2: had the dominance throughout the whole game, but in particular,
Speaker 2: there was that ten minute patch, five to ten minute
Speaker 2: patch that ended the game. Essentially it was I think
Speaker 2: they kicked five goals in ten minutes or something around that,
Speaker 2: and then a whole bunch of points Like you were
Speaker 2: saying that, Yeah, they could have really really done some
Speaker 2: damn done some damage in that second quarter. The midfield
Speaker 2: of port that everyone's been talking about, Butters, Rosie Horn
Speaker 2: Francis kept pretty quiet. Butter's probably the only one like
Speaker 2: as a standout. Rosie kept us seventeen on. Francis normally
Speaker 2: doesn't get big numbers. He's normally more of a damage guy.
Speaker 2: Both tried his heart out and there's been a bit
Speaker 2: of talk about both, like how he's been treated towards
Speaker 2: the end of the season and what he does from
Speaker 2: here on with his career. But yeah, it was it
Speaker 2: was a down performance for him for like this midfield
Speaker 2: that we all tout, as you know, elite elite.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there was one thing I noticed watching
Speaker 1: the game was like, gw ass at any chance, impossible
Speaker 1: moment was just getting the ball forward, and it seemed
Speaker 1: like it just all the midfielders of like Port Adelaid
Speaker 1: were just passing and JB just off to the races right,
Speaker 1: and that just seemed like there's certain times where the
Speaker 1: ball's going forward and You're going, how is there someone
Speaker 1: in their forward line? There's no one even on them,
Speaker 1: like they're just sitting there open, there's no one even
Speaker 1: near them, Like there was one point I think whereeah,
Speaker 1: there's like three people inside fifty and one defender, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, how's this even happening? So their ability to
Speaker 1: get it forward I think almost like shocked Port Adelaide,
Speaker 1: and they were just on their back heel the whole
Speaker 1: time and really tried to wrestle at momentum back and
Speaker 1: just wasn't able to until probably the fourth quarter and
Speaker 1: I started getting stuff on the board. But one person
Speaker 1: that was able to kind of get them or keep
Speaker 1: them in the game somewhat was really really like he
Speaker 1: kicked three esre on the game, and he was the
Speaker 1: only one that even looked remotely close to doing anything
Speaker 1: for Port Adelaide in that first quarter, and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: this guy's just hanging on, hanging on by a threat,
Speaker 1: and this man is doing everything you can as possible
Speaker 1: to be able to try to keep them in the race.
Speaker 2: And he's obviously all fellas Team of the Year.
Speaker 1: Hashtag to never forget.
Speaker 2: Kenny did say post game that he probably had to
Speaker 2: take more risk with team selection than you'd like to
Speaker 2: heading into that one, saying that what was it there
Speaker 2: was younger players that are still too young to be
Speaker 2: playing AFL, So as bad as it was, it could
Speaker 2: have been a hell of a lot worse if they
Speaker 2: didn't run with the injured players. It's interesting statement, but
Speaker 2: looking out there on the field, I think Trent McKenzie,
Speaker 2: probably one of the more obvious ones hurt his knee
Speaker 2: last week, had to play on Jesse Hogan, and Jesse
Speaker 2: Hogan just dominated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's one of those things. I guess
Speaker 1: you get two finals, right, would you play someone who's
Speaker 1: an injured but experienced player or would you someone play
Speaker 1: someone who's inexperienced in a finals game under the bright lights?
Speaker 1: And then you know not as probably you know is
Speaker 1: very young in their career, Like it's a it's a
Speaker 1: question a lot of coaches have to make, but I
Speaker 1: think a lot of them would probably are on the
Speaker 1: side of the experience to be able to get them
Speaker 1: over the line. Then someone who's a bit younger, maybe
Speaker 1: in the first or second year, to come in and
Speaker 1: try to play a finals without much time ever doing
Speaker 1: that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to trust in, like put your
Speaker 2: trust into those senior players as well to make the call.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's an interesting one and another off
Speaker 2: season for Port Adelaide.
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to this one part
Speaker 1: of this game, the Butter's chair throw.
Speaker 2: It got a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: It was wild. It reminded me of a famous college
Speaker 1: basketball coach who picked up a chair and threw it
Speaker 1: onto the court. This is this is a true story
Speaker 1: through onto the court in the middle of a game
Speaker 1: because she was upset with an umpire's call. Probably not
Speaker 1: to that extent, but it was wild seeing it live.
Speaker 1: The whole thing play out, Like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: if an umpire can give extra time for furniture moving
Speaker 1: in the middle of a game, yeah or not? Like
Speaker 1: the way you went about it was kind of disrespectful,
Speaker 1: going me wrong, but like that's you know, I guess
Speaker 1: the heat of the moment somewhat. But also like they
Speaker 1: didn't hitting an extra time, you know, for that scenario
Speaker 1: of you know, them being somewhat in the way of
Speaker 1: I guess, like straight lines to the goals. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like one of those things I
Speaker 1: was thinking about earlier. I was like, well, should umpires
Speaker 1: be able to give like five or six seconds extra
Speaker 1: for them to be able to, you know, be able
Speaker 1: to at least organize their shot in the best way possible.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's not a good look from like butters, but
Speaker 2: he's moving the chairs out of the way, throwing the chairs,
Speaker 2: and then he turns around the umpires like like move
Speaker 2: it on. I was, mate, I'm busy, like rearranging fucking
Speaker 2: Ikea down here, like we can all do better in
Speaker 2: this situation. Umpire says, hey, let's take a quick pause,
Speaker 2: excuse me, Can you just move out of the way please,
Speaker 2: because he's trying to take a shot at gold it's
Speaker 2: really important to him and his team in the finals
Speaker 2: in the AFL, big deal, All right, can we just
Speaker 2: move those chairs? Thanks? Okay, thanks, all right, you're ready,
Speaker 2: all right? Time on, move it on. Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 2: like I think it was just a communication thing on
Speaker 2: everyone's behalf.
Speaker 1: The chair throw didn't look too great from his perspective,
Speaker 1: Like you said, I think if he had his time again,
Speaker 1: he'd probably go back and do it differently. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a better way for the AFL to handle
Speaker 1: the situation. It's happened before. I remember whenever we played.
Speaker 1: I think it was Richmond and Brody Grundy kicked the
Speaker 1: one right at the siren and Darcy Moore went back
Speaker 1: and someone was in the way too, and he like
Speaker 1: moved the chair also, and it was one of those
Speaker 1: things where like you feel like you should get a
Speaker 1: ton of extra time, but like five or six seconds
Speaker 1: extra or like him to go if you can go
Speaker 1: back and move that, okay, start now, time back on
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So I was looking at I think
Speaker 1: there's got to be room for improvement here. But did
Speaker 1: it pan out the way it probably should have and
Speaker 1: did it look great from a visual perspective. No, but
Speaker 1: maybe it's an RFI for the AFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My point about like social media commentary around it
Speaker 2: is it's like so hypocritical to be like, oh, you
Speaker 2: need to show empathy and you need to be in
Speaker 2: control of your emotions towards this like water person that's
Speaker 2: just doing their job and then just go to town
Speaker 2: on Zach Butter's like, yeah, I don't get people.
Speaker 1: But the culture thing I think has probably been yeah,
Speaker 1: and we'll move on to joby. I decided, thank Stephen
Speaker 1: Kinigli are thirty touches at twenty two touches by halftime
Speaker 1: and also had two goals, like he was one of
Speaker 1: their star players. He is one of the turnaround stories.
Speaker 1: I feel like over the last two or three years,
Speaker 1: I think we all you know, heard the stories of
Speaker 1: him during that Amazon Prime you know documentary that he
Speaker 1: did and some of the struggles he was going through then,
Speaker 1: and then for him now to be playing at the
Speaker 1: level he is and be such an important carg in
Speaker 1: that machine pun there you go? Is it a credit
Speaker 1: to him? It is a very hard thing to do,
Speaker 1: and it's a credit to his you know, his ability
Speaker 1: to kind of work through those hard times to be
Speaker 1: able to come out the other side. So it is
Speaker 1: not easy, but it's great to see him, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to be positive and making an impact for
Speaker 1: his club.
Speaker 2: You're making it sound like you know from experience how
Speaker 2: to like turn turning a form slump around. This is
Speaker 2: great because I didn't have to bring it up.
Speaker 1: You were the one that was a few times. I've
Speaker 1: gone to the fl and a few games.
Speaker 2: So you say it is hard. How hard is it?
Speaker 2: What do you do? How do you get out of
Speaker 2: a poor form slump or how do you work your
Speaker 2: way back into form?
Speaker 1: Ah, there's multiple things. I think, Like you just get
Speaker 1: back to the basics. You kind of go back to
Speaker 1: what you're good at, gaining a bit of confidence in that.
Speaker 1: Obviously playing at a lower level, like you get more
Speaker 1: opportunities to you know, play a bit more rock, you're
Speaker 1: playing a bit more forward to get more aerial contact
Speaker 1: or aerial contests or whoever it may be. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it. Sometimes you just it's
Speaker 1: like anything, like we're all human beings. Sometimes we can
Speaker 1: have a bit of a you know, our mental health
Speaker 1: isn't great at the time. It may be and that
Speaker 1: might affect our football, and you know, at the time,
Speaker 1: you just got to try to find things that you
Speaker 1: know make you happy in life and fill your cup up,
Speaker 1: as I say, and then that kind of you know,
Speaker 1: bleeds into your work life and then bleeds into your
Speaker 1: football hopefully and can turn things around. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's not easy. Like sometimes coaches lose faith in you
Speaker 1: and they don't want to play you, and then they
Speaker 1: looked to elsewhere. And I mean, like whenever I look
Speaker 1: back to Brody Grundy and Darcy Cameron, like there's a
Speaker 1: point where I got moved out of that rock position
Speaker 1: and Darcy Cameron was chosen over me, and that was
Speaker 1: just like part of the process. I think it was
Speaker 1: maybe Nathan Buckley in the COVID times whenever that happened,
Speaker 1: and that was one of those things. It was a
Speaker 1: bit of a shot to your ego and your confidence
Speaker 1: and everything else obviously whenever that happens. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously things panned out differently and I was fortunate enough
Speaker 1: to still be in the team. But yeah, there's definitely
Speaker 1: those dark moments you go to and you got to
Speaker 1: try to find a way to come out of them.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times you rely on your friends
Speaker 1: and family and that close kind of grow close knit
Speaker 1: kind of group you have, and yeah, sometimes they take
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity from you. But they're the people
Speaker 1: are always in your corner no matter what. That's kind
Speaker 1: of one of the most important things. I think whenever
Speaker 1: that does happen, well.
Speaker 2: It's always good to say it turn around. Steven Kennelio. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a I don't know if if you'd describe
Speaker 2: it as a rough ducker, it was. It's great to
Speaker 2: see him bounce back. Thirty touches twenty two in the
Speaker 2: first half is insane. Two goals, great goals too, Jesse Hogan,
Speaker 2: Toby Green. It's going to be hard to shut down
Speaker 2: these guys. Four goals for three goals two between them
Speaker 2: so combined for seven to six. So at least there's
Speaker 2: a bit of inaccuracy there. This one's the most important
Speaker 2: selection for GWS. They've got Kieren Briggs who hurt his
Speaker 2: shoulder in the game on the weekend.
Speaker 1: He come back in and play. He s off the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably know better than me.
Speaker 2: These shoulder things, they get worse over time, Like we
Speaker 2: talked about Doc earlier in the podcast. Yeah, dislocated shoulder
Speaker 2: and pops back in and can go back out there.
Speaker 2: Is it is that sh Is that going to be painful?
Speaker 1: Fucking hurts. There's no doubt about that. There's probably a
Speaker 1: few needles involved and a few kind of numbing agents
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you look at Doc will
Speaker 1: probably play this week again after just locating his shoulder,
Speaker 1: and he'll just have it heavily strapped. So I think
Speaker 1: there's there's definitely. I mean, I'll plan to say that
Speaker 1: Brin Briggs will play on the weekend. That's the way
Speaker 1: we'll plan it. But yeah, obviously everyone's pretty switched on
Speaker 1: as far as injuries and stuff like that. But I
Speaker 1: think whenever you get to this time of year, adrenaline
Speaker 1: kind of kicks in. Injuries don't matter as much. So yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously he had a little bit of a shoulder thing
Speaker 1: over the weekend, but the fact that he came back
Speaker 1: on employed shows that he's still able to so I
Speaker 1: think he'll should be able to get up for the weekend.
Speaker 2: It's just another little thing that adds to the story.
Speaker 2: It's pretty hard to tap when you've got those shoulders,
Speaker 2: but we'll see how it all plays out. He was
Speaker 2: still winning Rock. He's had a big final series now,
Speaker 2: something that people are kind of sucking about. I'll describe
Speaker 2: it as sucking is GWS is six day break coming
Speaker 2: off this win. Now argument would be that it's meant
Speaker 2: to be the advantage goes to the team that finished
Speaker 2: on top, and it's meant to be harder for the
Speaker 2: teams that finish below them. And that's how it works.
Speaker 2: Next this prelm, whoever wins these prelims will get an
Speaker 2: extra day's break going into the Grand Final. That's how
Speaker 2: it works because that's the advantage you get finishing up
Speaker 2: the ladder. Mace. So saying that you've had a lot
Speaker 2: of time, You've had a lot of breaks, a lot
Speaker 2: of time to recovery. What's the way up between the
Speaker 2: old classic, Oh, you haven't played a lot of footy
Speaker 2: in a three week span of time compared to like
Speaker 2: these guys have been four games in a row. This
Speaker 2: will be on the road and coming off a six
Speaker 2: day break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the six day break is interesting. Like,
Speaker 1: I found it amazing that the schedule wasn't sorted beforehand,
Speaker 1: like we found out essentially Sunday or Saturday night. I
Speaker 1: guess after the game that we were locked in for Friday,
Speaker 1: Like it was still a question, Mike, we weren't able
Speaker 1: to actually give our schedule out until the weekend because
Speaker 1: you think that these things were planned geez back in
Speaker 1: like March, Like, it's pretty wild to think that, like
Speaker 1: we're figuring out what day we're going to play the
Speaker 1: week of. But I understand there is venues and everything
Speaker 1: else that comes with it. That probably is a bit
Speaker 1: of you know, having to reserve things and whatnot. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the six day break thing, like the question mark I
Speaker 1: think was around I guess the competitive nature of it,
Speaker 1: whether or not it's fair. Yeah, like you said, whenever
Speaker 1: you finish first, there is benefits you get to finishing first,
Speaker 1: whether it be a double chance or this. And that's
Speaker 1: just kind of the scenario because AFL is not gonna
Speaker 1: play two games on a Saturday. Yeah, they're gonna play
Speaker 1: two primetime games, so one of the teams is gonna
Speaker 1: get screwed. And that's just like, that's just the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter. If we were playing in non prime
Speaker 1: time games and we want to just you know, play
Speaker 1: it all at once, all on Saturday, I'm sure we
Speaker 1: probably would. But there's too much money in the games
Speaker 1: to not be playing a Friday night game and a
Speaker 1: Saturday night game. And that's just kind of Heart and
Speaker 1: Parcel with the AFL.
Speaker 2: Makes sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't, Like you're gonna tell me they're gonna
Speaker 1: play an afternoon game at twelve o'clock on a Saturday, Like, no, no,
Speaker 1: damn chance, they can play two night games, which, let's
Speaker 1: be honest, this is a Grand Final. Maybe you should
Speaker 1: probably fall in line with that. But we continue to
Speaker 1: talk about that, and they'll continue to be a talking point,
Speaker 1: and yeah, there's money to be made by being in primetime.
Speaker 1: Therefore it will forever be in primetime. Unfortunately for one
Speaker 1: of the teams, that just means they're gonna have a
Speaker 1: shorter break.
Speaker 2: One main reason why you wouldn't play it in the
Speaker 2: middle of the day, as we move into other news,
Speaker 2: is because there might be snakes on the field.
Speaker 1: Mace, a snake in my boots.
Speaker 2: Killer snakes. Finally you got something to send back to
Speaker 2: the family and friends in America, going, geez, we got
Speaker 2: another snake out here on the field.
Speaker 1: I thought this whenever I read the headline. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this thing must be a two three meter long snake.
Speaker 1: This would be massive. They would have been seeing this
Speaker 1: from ages or I see the video. It's like literally,
Speaker 1: twenty centimeters is nothing. It was so small it was deadly.
Speaker 1: I must say that, So it is important to get
Speaker 1: the snake off the field. But my picture of it
Speaker 1: was very different from what was the actual all image
Speaker 1: of it and whenever it came to the game. But
Speaker 1: they did have to delay the nfl W game between
Speaker 1: Richmond and j WS out at Blacktown because there was
Speaker 1: a deadly snake on the field. So that is the
Speaker 1: most Australian shit you will hear this week.
Speaker 2: So it's not about the size, it's about how deadly
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Can just give a shout out to Gandalf. They picked
Speaker 1: it up. I don't know if you've seen that guy
Speaker 1: beard of a goddess.
Speaker 2: He looked like a snake handler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like literally who I would picture if
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to bring up all Jake,
Speaker 1: the snake candler.
Speaker 2: If he was walked through the gate, You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: the snake handle is here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that you're right all the time. I
Speaker 2: would probably say that you're wrong most of the most time.
Speaker 2: But you are correct about the Gold Coast Sons because they.
Speaker 1: Boys we bag that.
Speaker 2: Hey, Gold Coast Sons have made the Grand Final.
Speaker 1: You just just like I planned, Brandon, I knew it
Speaker 1: from the start, been on this bandwagon for a long time.
Speaker 2: You just picked the wrong lead the VFL.
Speaker 1: We never got into the details.
Speaker 2: Gold Coast have made the Grand Final of the VFL,
Speaker 2: which is big for him. That's massive. It shows that
Speaker 2: you know, there's some talent coming through. Maybe your child
Speaker 2: took a hanger.
Speaker 1: Hangar of hangers. Oh my gosh, it was elite.
Speaker 2: So you're backing them into it and get the dub
Speaker 2: in the Grand Final.
Speaker 1: I have no idea they're playing, but they're gonna get
Speaker 1: the dub. You're going to murder them. Choll's just going
Speaker 1: to get easier to go. He's gonna go to the moon.
Speaker 1: As we would say, big love for Chol two, absolute
Speaker 1: legend and but yeah, no, it's great to see him
Speaker 1: in the Grand final. Shows that they're you know, I've
Speaker 1: got a few guys coming through in the younger leagues
Speaker 1: that are you know, helping them be successful. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, next year finals and while
Speaker 1: we're it's not just in the VFL, Brandon, let me just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the AFL W or maybe they can get
Speaker 2: that that what's the medal when all your teams are
Speaker 2: good at the same time. Talked about it last.
Speaker 1: Week, but no the whole Yeah, they get like a
Speaker 1: million bucks or something like that. I'm not really too sure.
Speaker 2: That'll be good when you when you're pocketing a million
Speaker 2: bucks this year of IT and Harry Sheezel one of
Speaker 2: the best Farris for norm.
Speaker 1: Yes, pretty good fit. It's pretty good. First year, not bad.
Speaker 1: Second year, sorry second year, second year winning IT B
Speaker 1: and F. I'm not sure if he gets a big
Speaker 1: bonus or not, but let's just say maybe him and
Speaker 1: his family and his mom were going to Bali again.
Speaker 1: Who knows. Yeah, that's it tatos on here, But no
Speaker 1: credit to Harry. An incredible accomplishment and he's going to
Speaker 1: be an absolute gun for that team for a long time.
Speaker 1: So it's a little shout out to Harry for winning
Speaker 1: the B and F over there. It's quite something he
Speaker 1: should be extremely proud of.
Speaker 2: That's enough flapping the gums about other crap that happened
Speaker 2: outside of finals. Let's jump in to this week's preliminary finals.
Speaker 2: Brisbane versus Carlton.
Speaker 1: At the Gabba at the Fortress.
Speaker 2: Last time these two teams met was at Marvel Stadium,
Speaker 2: not as much a fortress. Brisbane still won twenty six
Speaker 2: points and Charlie and Zach Bailey four goals each. Harry
Speaker 2: and Charlie one guy. That's not as many goals, so
Speaker 2: that's probably why they lost. Carlton banged up going into
Speaker 2: this one. They got Duc's shoulder. Obviously, Crip's still going
Speaker 2: with that reb injury.
Speaker 1: And the thing is like, that's almost like, you know,
Speaker 1: whenever they had the jousting back in the medieval times,
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Couch around him wild and he copped that, you know,
Speaker 2: the hit to the mush that saw him go off
Speaker 2: for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Bleeding from every Orfice. In his post game show interview,
Speaker 1: it was wild.
Speaker 2: That's not good. And then obviously Aker's shoulder. But he'll
Speaker 2: just keep plugging away. But they have got some players
Speaker 2: to come back in, which makes things a little spicy
Speaker 2: because they've got Harry MacKaye to come back in Jack
Speaker 2: Martin both available. Harry was out with concussion, Jack Martin
Speaker 2: was out with being stupid, big punch to the face,
Speaker 2: So he's back in. I don't know who comes out.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some unlucky players coming out of this one.
Speaker 2: You never want to get dropped for a final, let
Speaker 2: alone a pre limb, let alone a Grand final. So
Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting coming into this one.
Speaker 2: We've got some key matchups. Who do you see there?
Speaker 1: I've got the two Charlie's going at it, big fan
Speaker 1: of the old motorbike Charlie, and obviously you've got the
Speaker 1: other Charlie at the other end, King Charles yep. And
Speaker 1: then we've got what's what's his? Uh? What's Charlie Cameron's shark?
Speaker 1: Did No? That's country Country road? Yes, and who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll be able to finish a whole song this
Speaker 1: time before he kicks another golf Not too sure.
Speaker 2: Six girls back to back to back.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, between them two that I'm expecting. Let's
Speaker 1: go eight goals between the three. I'll expect eight goals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be I'll go Charlie Cameron kicks more.
Speaker 1: I think he's he's primed for a big, big he's
Speaker 1: just always the prime time at the gabba. A big
Speaker 1: fan of him. But he's gonna I think those two
Speaker 1: are going to be awesome to watch. Obviously, two gun
Speaker 1: forwards of the League who've been killing it all year.
Speaker 2: What do you make of Charlie Kerno's final series today?
Speaker 2: He's kicked two goals in two games. Not really set
Speaker 2: in the world a lot. First game he had a
Speaker 2: lot of touches, set up some things. Second game not
Speaker 2: as much. Pretty quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I don't feel like Carleton's
Speaker 1: kicking massive scores in general. Maybe they've chosen a bit
Speaker 1: more of a defensive style with their you know, their
Speaker 1: finals campaign. I'm not too sure, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's primed. Everyone knows he can kick an absolute bag
Speaker 1: on a big stage, so he's primed at some point.
Speaker 1: I feel like to be able to have that massive
Speaker 1: game and kick a few goals, and I think this
Speaker 1: is the one he's going to have to for them
Speaker 1: to get over the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like, yeah, it's interesting, Like a lot of
Speaker 2: Carlton's mid tier has been stepping up in finals. But
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see Big King.
Speaker 1: What matchup are you looking at?
Speaker 2: I look back to see last time and it was
Speaker 2: Dunk's playing on Paddy Cripps and Dunk's probably had his
Speaker 2: best game for Brisbane up until that point, at least
Speaker 2: definitely thirty three disposals, fourteen of those contested, thirteen tackles,
Speaker 2: six clearances, and Crips only had the seventeen touches thirteen tackles.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of tackles.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of tackles. That's my season probably of
Speaker 1: tackles in one game.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good, and touches and touches. It was a
Speaker 2: pretty good game. So you know, it's always interesting to
Speaker 2: see if if teams go back to the well and
Speaker 2: then to see if the other team has an answer
Speaker 2: for it. Do they just roll back and do the
Speaker 2: same thing because clearly it worked, and do they help
Speaker 2: Crieps out more. It'll be interesting to see. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's mine. I'm keen to see how your boy Harris
Speaker 2: Andrews does down there. I like watching the defense come finals.
Speaker 2: Like we all like big goal kickers.
Speaker 1: But both a bit more of the defensive.
Speaker 2: And there's been some great defense.
Speaker 1: Setup over the weekend.
Speaker 2: He dominated teams now all seem to have a really
Speaker 2: key like back. Yeah like that you got May Lever,
Speaker 2: you had alia A Leah, you're Darcy Moore, you got
Speaker 2: Harris Andrews, Like they all got these like absolute jets
Speaker 2: and it's fun to just see them go head the
Speaker 2: head with like a big key forward. Kind of missed
Speaker 2: out on that from Melbourne because Melbourne don't have any forwards.
Speaker 2: But I Digress went up there and played a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he did well. So maybe if there was some
Speaker 2: thing where they could have got a rock in and
Speaker 2: then Max played forward, but I don't really know how
Speaker 2: they could have done that.
Speaker 1: Calm down, We'll move on to the next game.
Speaker 2: What's that one.
Speaker 1: It's the Congwood versus WUS game pre lame at the MCG.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're predicting as far as an
Speaker 1: audience there, Brandon, but I would have to say it's
Speaker 1: going to be over ninety five.
Speaker 2: It is almost a replica of that well one. You've
Speaker 2: already versed them in a prelium, but it is I
Speaker 2: feel like it's going to be that vibe of that
Speaker 2: Richmond GWS one where it's just like massive numbers, one sided,
Speaker 2: and we'll see if they can pump up the volume
Speaker 2: greater than Carlton fans could. I will say going into
Speaker 2: this game that I've been told already external to this room,
Speaker 2: external that I need to park my alliance to the
Speaker 2: GWS Giants.
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't say that, So.
Speaker 2: It's I've had a good ride on GWS all year.
Speaker 2: I can't take them over Collingwood. So I'm saying this
Speaker 2: is where the giants were.
Speaker 1: To tell me if they went over the weekend, You're
Speaker 1: not going to come in here and told you. I
Speaker 1: told you the big pixel for the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the town coming in fully decked out and merch.
Speaker 2: But it's just for this game. So I'm parking it
Speaker 2: here and I'll say this is where my alliance to
Speaker 2: GWS is halted.
Speaker 1: Wow, all year it comes down to the cluch moments
Speaker 1: spread and you just I must say this for everyone
Speaker 1: listening that I did not have any influence in this decision.
Speaker 2: And it's painful because I was on them early. So
Speaker 2: you better win. But let's jump into the talking points,
Speaker 2: because last time you versed these guys, sixty five point winners,
Speaker 2: probably the last little part and maybe even the catalyst
Speaker 2: for them, just like turning things around sixty five point
Speaker 2: win round nine at the g and people might remember
Speaker 2: this game for the game that Mason Cox tore apart
Speaker 2: with your nineteen touches to goals.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold, let's check that that is better than donks
Speaker 1: to still guarding another's.
Speaker 2: But it was pretty good. And you played against Matt
Speaker 2: Flynn in the ruck. Yeah, it is interesting because he's
Speaker 2: around and Briggs injured, whether they make a change there.
Speaker 2: It was pretty even in the ruck, but you did
Speaker 2: play well across the ground. What you remember from that
Speaker 2: game and do you take much from it or does
Speaker 2: it feel like it's a lifetime ago for both teams.
Speaker 1: It feels like a lifetime ago. I think Matt Flinn
Speaker 1: had the most clearances of their team, So I don't
Speaker 1: think who needs I had that as creditbit game as
Speaker 1: you're really make it out to be. But yeah, well
Speaker 1: we'll ended up seeing what the Rock Battle is going
Speaker 1: to be like. But yeah, I think this game at
Speaker 1: the MCG, although the score was heavy one side, I
Speaker 1: feel like it was a pretty close game as far
Speaker 1: as everything. As far whenever you look at the stats,
Speaker 1: I think you wrote down out here like the colling
Speaker 1: was tackles with sixty three twenty nine. That was the
Speaker 1: big kind of thing that stuck out. But in the
Speaker 1: kicking efficiency inside fifty with sixty two forty seven percent,
Speaker 1: So other than those stats, it was pretty even. Keel, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but obviously you look at I guess, our ability to
Speaker 1: finish in front of goals, the efficiency we're going in
Speaker 1: and everything else was the reason we're able to get
Speaker 1: up by that many points. So it's going to be
Speaker 1: an interesting game. I'm really excited for it. Like obviously,
Speaker 1: Joe us on a bit of a role at the moment,
Speaker 1: and you know, you talked about them and the last
Speaker 1: time we played them with a catalyst for them to
Speaker 1: be able to go on a bit of a role.
Speaker 1: And then I think back to Port Adelaide round two
Speaker 1: after we smashed them at the MCG, they went on
Speaker 1: like a twelve game straight winning spree. So it seems
Speaker 1: seem to have like, you know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I got a bit of a fire lit up under
Speaker 1: their ass and had a really good time after we
Speaker 1: played them. But it's going to be a big game,
Speaker 1: Like I said, a massive crowd. I'm excited. It is
Speaker 1: exciting times and geez, it's going to be a roar
Speaker 1: at the MCG. I feel like we've never heard before jeez.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so the stats last time, it was like
Speaker 2: disposals were the same, like clearances were the same, like
Speaker 2: inside fifties were the same. So yeah, it must have
Speaker 2: come down to, like your looks and the names that
Speaker 2: I read out here, you can't let these guys get
Speaker 2: this much of the ball. Nick Dak lost forty one touches,
Speaker 2: Tom Mitchell thirty six, Jordan to Goi thirty one and
Speaker 2: a goal. They're pretty damaging players, so it would have
Speaker 2: been some pretty good service. I imagine Jesse Hogan did
Speaker 2: well at the other end, kicking three. And it's been
Speaker 2: one hell of a year for Jesse Hogan.
Speaker 1: He is killing it. Like credit to him. I just
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a time whereas it freemantle and
Speaker 1: there's the questions around his career and everything else. And
Speaker 1: now at the GWS Giants, he has reinvented himself. He
Speaker 1: is dominating out there and he's kicking like at least
Speaker 1: three goals a game. So his ability to move around
Speaker 1: was watching him on the weekend is like ability to
Speaker 1: get behind his defender, move around and keep them guessing.
Speaker 1: It's just like second to none. And he can take
Speaker 1: a big clunk too, So he's definitely got the attribute
Speaker 1: to be an important key player and their team over
Speaker 1: the weekend.
Speaker 2: And who's the matchup on him who's.
Speaker 1: The matchup on him would probably be Darcy Morel as soon.
Speaker 1: He's a pretty decent defender himself, which would be a
Speaker 1: great little matchup.
Speaker 2: I will say that my favorite matchup is and always
Speaker 2: will be Toby Green versus Bradon Man. Oh yes, I
Speaker 2: want it to go for it.
Speaker 1: How long do you think it's going to take for
Speaker 1: them to get in the scuffle? Ten fifteen seconds? It
Speaker 1: is the game.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's that like the respect between them.
Speaker 1: There is funny thing but like in between the sirens,
Speaker 1: they're like, no, I don't give a shit who you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's always so good and Branden he's held
Speaker 2: himself pretty well over the years, so always be good. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, coming off a pretty stressful period of time
Speaker 2: for Brandon Maynard, so it'd be good to see how
Speaker 2: he bounces back. And Toby Green hasn't been suspended or
Speaker 2: even looked at this final series, so he's a changed
Speaker 2: man as the captain of the All Australians.
Speaker 1: AFL has just reinvented him.
Speaker 2: So there's been a couple of injuries and a couple
Speaker 2: of returns.
Speaker 1: Nick beakos, it's good how the best player in the
Speaker 1: league back. That's nice, that's that's a tick.
Speaker 2: We've been seeing him. He's got the tick of approval
Speaker 2: for Collingwood. He's back. Saw him at training doing little
Speaker 2: stoppage drills and stuff, or he's building. Is there no
Speaker 2: nerves about bringing him back? Just off your run into
Speaker 2: a prelim.
Speaker 1: Good luck? I mean I saw him for the Brown laugh,
Speaker 1: So I can't imagine you'd be like, oh brownlow medalist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to ease into this one.
Speaker 2: What if you start him as the sub and then
Speaker 2: just don't bring that on?
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine that. It'd be wild. Wouldn't that be silly?
Speaker 2: And then is it just a matter of Taylor Adams unfortunately,
Speaker 2: and he's been through this similar in the past, hamstring
Speaker 2: injury strain at training.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this week pretty minimum, I feel like from what
Speaker 1: I've been told, So there's still capability of him playing
Speaker 1: if if we go all over the weekend to be
Speaker 1: able to have play in the Granny. But and yeah,
Speaker 1: it happened in training and it was one of those
Speaker 1: moments where you know you can see someone's face and
Speaker 1: you see them kind of hobbling, and I remember seeing
Speaker 1: it and I was just like you gotta be kidding me. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: this guy's been integral part to our team for a
Speaker 1: long time, obviously in the leadership position, but also just
Speaker 1: around the ground, and you feel for that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's never a position anyone wants to be in. And
Speaker 1: someone who was part of that twenty eighteen we were
Speaker 1: that close to winning the whole thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: be a part of a campaign now and have to
Speaker 1: sit out a big game like this is definitely gonna
Speaker 1: turn and part inside, I'm sure for a bit. But
Speaker 1: I know he's a guy that loves to do the
Speaker 1: best to be able to get back in I've noticed
Speaker 1: over the last little chunk that he's doing every single
Speaker 1: thing he can to be able to try to put
Speaker 1: himself in best dance. So he might be a possibility.
Speaker 1: So it's a credit to him. He's going to do
Speaker 1: everything in his power. I think. I he's been in
Speaker 1: the hyperbaric chamber of about ten times in the last
Speaker 1: four days, so he's yeah, he's obviously you would be
Speaker 1: gutted as he can imagine, but there is up to him.
Speaker 2: Prayers up. He's been he's had a really good season. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. What's changed about his role because he's
Speaker 2: moved into a new role.
Speaker 1: He played midfield and then he got moved into the
Speaker 1: ford line, so he's kind of playing a bit of
Speaker 1: that small forward now brings up pressure and his abilities,
Speaker 1: I guess to have a leadership role in that that
Speaker 1: forward line has been massive, so he's playing a bit
Speaker 1: of a different role. But with so many midfielders coming in,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to be able to kind of
Speaker 1: move people around in different places to get people rest
Speaker 1: and get people in side the call face. So he's
Speaker 1: been one of those that's, you know, how to change
Speaker 1: a bit of what he does on the football field.
Speaker 1: But he's yeah. To credit him, he's been integro all
Speaker 1: year and fortunately we'll have him over the weekend.
Speaker 2: They got like Cannelio Whitfield, Tom Green, which allows Toby
Speaker 2: Green to play out forward with Jesse Hogan who's killing
Speaker 2: it down back. They got Sam Taylor, they got Harry Himmelberg,
Speaker 2: Like they're all pretty talented football and looking back now,
Speaker 2: is probably surprising that it was picked to have like
Speaker 2: this drop off, like where do you start and where
Speaker 2: do you look at when it comes up against GWS,
Speaker 2: Like what's their dangers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they just they play really well together, right,
Speaker 1: Like they connect really well. Their ability to give them
Speaker 1: best service inside forward fifty was a massive thing over
Speaker 1: the weekend. I felt like it was very noticeable. But
Speaker 1: they're just a team that has those key pillars and
Speaker 1: those key positions that you need as far as leadership,
Speaker 1: as far as making clays and things like that. That's
Speaker 1: really put them in good stefy throughout the finals campaign,
Speaker 1: throughout the year. To be honest, like they have been
Speaker 1: a team because they're in Sydney, maybe because they're not
Speaker 1: the bigger team in Sydney and stuff like that, they've
Speaker 1: flying under the radar a bit, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think teams maybe throughout the year of yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: look past them somewhat. And they've made people pay every
Speaker 1: single game and they're on a bit of a roll
Speaker 1: at the moment. So yeah, they'll look to continue that momentum,
Speaker 1: I'm sure over the weekend and their ability to get
Speaker 1: the ball forward has been incredible and you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, some of their key players are really you know,
Speaker 1: stacking up whenever it comes to these finals campaigns and
Speaker 1: making a statement. So it's a credit to them what
Speaker 1: they've been doing so far.
Speaker 2: Cannely Josh Kelly. Yeah, good, good team, best GWS player
Speaker 2: that's going to be out there. We'll ask Canelli the Husk.
Speaker 1: We love the Hosk.
Speaker 2: What's your week look like? Now? What have you been
Speaker 2: doing over the by period? What's this you know, two
Speaker 2: weeks kind of looked like? And how do you ramp
Speaker 2: up going into the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of interesting, want to
Speaker 1: play two games in a month. It's a weird feeling
Speaker 1: like we've never gone this way through finals. We've always
Speaker 1: had to go the hard way, so I've never actually
Speaker 1: experienced to have a week after and finals and watching
Speaker 1: the games over the weekend, it was this weird feeling
Speaker 1: of like we should be playing kind of thing. You know,
Speaker 1: we should be playing tomorrow. So that was a bit odd.
Speaker 1: But you know, we got the week a few days off,
Speaker 1: you know, and then we essentially just get into the
Speaker 1: normal routine now. So same thing that we're doing all
Speaker 1: year as far as going into games and as far
Speaker 1: as reviews and previews and everything else. It's a normal week.
Speaker 1: So nothing really changes too much from our perspective, and
Speaker 1: we just continue kind of doing what we've been doing
Speaker 1: all year with you know, obviously scouting another team and
Speaker 1: try to put our things that we think will go
Speaker 1: well against them into training and then go from there.
Speaker 1: So not much changes, to be honest. Like there's a
Speaker 1: bit of hype obviously with the prelim and a bit
Speaker 1: of a bit of chaos around the noise and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, but I think inside the four walls, it's
Speaker 1: pretty much the same week just that we've had all
Speaker 1: single year, every week all year, so it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird feeling to I don't know.
Speaker 1: Everyone expects like a something nuts to happen or something
Speaker 1: unique or different, and.
Speaker 2: It's like, so you don't feel it's not like feeling
Speaker 2: any different. You're not nervous, you're not you're not.
Speaker 1: Schedules the same and everything else. Like I mean, like
Speaker 1: I remember in twenty eighteen, you never heard the Grand
Speaker 1: Final and like whoever makes it there, it's like a
Speaker 1: very different schedule in the week, but like a prelim
Speaker 1: is it's you don't have all that extra stuff that
Speaker 1: comes with it, so it's very much just another game
Speaker 1: work in that's in that sense, So yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be exciting weekend. It's going to be an incredible
Speaker 1: crowd hopefully, and you know, hopefully we can get the win.
Speaker 2: Being on like a massive stage like that in front
Speaker 2: of a massive crowd. People always say it's like the
Speaker 2: biggest crowd you get. Yeah, because you don't have the
Speaker 2: corporate it's does your brain let you absorb what's happening.
Speaker 1: Not really, Whenever the siren goes, it becomes process. Like
Speaker 1: I think obviously in big moments where someone lays a
Speaker 1: tackle or something, you hear the crowd and like you
Speaker 1: hear that kind of stuff. But I feel like because
Speaker 1: you're so like in the moment of the zone and
Speaker 1: trying to get people organized and trying to be part
Speaker 1: of the carg and the machine kind of thing that
Speaker 1: you don't that's not consciously happening in your head. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're too busy focusing on the things that are
Speaker 1: happening in front of you. Say, obviously you feel the
Speaker 1: crowd at times, and you notice that if you win,
Speaker 1: you'll definitely get to sit back and after you know,
Speaker 1: the siren goes, you're sitting there looking around like this
Speaker 1: is incredible. You know, like at the Melbourne game. As
Speaker 1: soon as that siren win, it was like this star
Speaker 1: relief and you're looking around the chaos and the people
Speaker 1: in the stands going nice and you're like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: this is wild. It was like, oh, you've been watching
Speaker 1: this whole time. Oh my gosh. Now it's it's incredible
Speaker 1: to have an amazing you know, Magpie Army there and
Speaker 1: dad for them to enjoy it with us and you know,
Speaker 1: help us through these signs. We talk about a nineteenth
Speaker 1: man on the ground and that's what it feels like,
Speaker 1: and it's it's an incredible to be part of a
Speaker 1: club that brings that kind of passionate supporters with it.
Speaker 1: But as far as crowds, as long as you get
Speaker 1: ninety six, four hundred and thirteen, which is one more
Speaker 1: than the Carlton game, I'm happy. I'm happy. So it
Speaker 1: would be a big game. Go out and yeah, if
Speaker 1: you've got the mcc passes or whatever it is, make
Speaker 1: sure they're filled and just let's fill up the MCG.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. It's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 2: And lastly, before we wrap things up, you've got the
Speaker 2: fam coming over. Filthy Phil is gonna be tearing it.
Speaker 1: Up Filthy Phil, have a lookout for him. He'll probably
Speaker 1: be on the banner before the game. He tends to
Speaker 1: get with the cheer squad with my mother and hold
Speaker 1: up the banner. They just love the footy. They'll get
Speaker 1: in on Wednesday. One of my brothers is already here
Speaker 1: and then the other brother comes in on Friday, so
Speaker 1: the whole fan would be here over the weekend. Who'd
Speaker 1: be exciting. Last year, they weren't too happy with my
Speaker 1: performance because I played a half of game and then
Speaker 1: we lost. So then they stuck around for the Grand
Speaker 1: Final and it was like I came here to what
Speaker 1: you play, you know, forty five minutes of game time
Speaker 1: and I was like, yep, sorry bro. So hopefully I
Speaker 1: can have a better experience this timmer around. But it
Speaker 1: is great to have the family. I'm sure there'll be
Speaker 1: a bit of media with them. They tend to find
Speaker 1: a mic somewhere.
Speaker 2: And lastly, we will say a quick prayers to run
Speaker 2: Barrassi and Kevin Cowboy and Neil unfortunately passed throughout the week,
Speaker 2: so prayers up to those two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, icons of the IFILL. You devoted their life to
Speaker 1: the IFL and you know a trunk of their huge
Speaker 1: chunk of their life and time on this earth to
Speaker 1: the successes they've had, So a credit to them what
Speaker 1: they've been able to accomplish, and you know, farts and pros.
Speaker 1: Grat to their family and friends.
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Speaker 2: I get so many photos from my mates that go
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Speaker 1: so much everyone. Hopefully it is an incredible weekend. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you enjoy it's going to be a massive game. I
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