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Speaker 1: We also know that today in Parliament, Robin Lamley, the

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Speaker 1: Independent Member Ferrara lun is going to be making well,

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Speaker 1: she's going to be making some moves to try and

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Speaker 1: make Parliament House an alcohol free workplace. Robin says, this

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Speaker 1: is less about the actual motion, but more about an

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Speaker 1: important symbolic gesture by the Northern Territory members of Parliament

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Speaker 1: recognizing that alcohol is the single most destructive problem in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Robin Lamley joins me on the show

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Speaker 1: this morning. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Robin, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 3: Robin. Why do you think that alcohol needs to be banned?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's pretty clear to most Territorians that

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Speaker 2: alcohol is a huge problem. Most of the Northern Territory

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Speaker 2: will go back to being under what she could call

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Speaker 2: a prohibition order when the stronger Futures God Bands are reinstated,

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Speaker 2: which will come about after legislation goes through this week

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Speaker 2: in Parliament. What I'm propose is an alcohol restriction for

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Speaker 2: us members of Parliament and people who work in Parliament House.

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Speaker 2: It's not okay for most people to drink at work,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it's okay for us to drink

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Speaker 1: Robin, has there been behavior that you've seen or has

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Speaker 1: something happened inside Parliament House that you think, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't actually think we should be able to access alcohol here.

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Speaker 2: No, it's the principle. I live in Alice Springs and

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Speaker 2: Central Australia has been restricted, has had alcohol restrictions for

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Speaker 2: And I just think it's time for us to step

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Speaker 2: our workplace and others can't. And the other aspect to it,

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Speaker 2: Katie is there's a lot of alcohol provided by the

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Speaker 2: government to people attending functions here and I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: given that the cost of alcohol to our society is enormous.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a wow that I like to drink as

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Speaker 2: pain and misery it causes to probably most territories now

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Speaker 2: given that crime alcohol fuel crime is now a major

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Speaker 3: So Robin, no alcohol functions either.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm actually not proposing that. I'm just saying in

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Speaker 2: you know they can. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 2: alcohol being served, but I guess since I've kicked this off,

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Speaker 2: people have said, well why not, why should alcohol be

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Speaker 2: Parliament House? And it is true. I mean it's a

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Speaker 2: And that invitation is really extended beyond Darwin because of

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Speaker 2: to Darwin people mainly, and it's kind of unfair Katie,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know that plenty of people have differing opinions.

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Speaker 1: You know, some people sort of going well, how much

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Speaker 2: I don't think that that's not what this is about.

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Speaker 2: It's a principle. I mean, we don't know the answer

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Speaker 1: Look, I think it's fair enough. I certainly don't drink

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, if they don't support it, I think there lies

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Speaker 2: They're comfortable little workplace here in Parliament House. That would

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Speaker 3: So, Robin, when will.

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Speaker 1: It happen when we use sort of make those moves?

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow you make those moves and we'll know pretty

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't imagine that it will be a long debate.

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Speaker 2: Welling, I'm hoping that it's done and dusted quickly and

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Speaker 1: Well, Robin, let's speak about those other things. We know

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Speaker 2: which says to me, Katie, that the legislation could be

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Speaker 2: I pretty I've read the legislation, I know what they've

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Speaker 3: So any concerns, Robin, are there any concerns with it?

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Speaker 2: Look not overly. I mean, I've got my views and

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Speaker 2: I think they need to stay in there for a

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Speaker 3: Robin before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: We know that the opposition leader Leofanocchiaro is also moving

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Speaker 1: this motion for a vote of no confidence, so it

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Speaker 1: it won't go through that process till the next sitting

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Speaker 1: of parliam Do you support this motion? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Look, I clearly and obviously support this motion, Katie. The

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Speaker 2: So of course I will support their no confidence motion.

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Speaker 2: They're giving notice of the motion today the COLP and

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Speaker 2: it will not be debated until the March sittings of Parliament.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not even really thinking about that at the moment.

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Speaker 2: There's so much other stuff going on that yes, I

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Speaker 2: time that this government really understood just how much damage

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Speaker 2: they have caused to the lives of so many people

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Speaker 2: in Central Australia, that beyond.

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Speaker 1: Robin Lamley, the Independent member for our lun We always

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Is there anything else that is going

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking of talking about flood mitigation in Alice Springs,

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Speaker 2: which probably doesn't know he interests people in Darwin. But

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Speaker 2: that's another little pet interests of mine. It's an important

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Speaker 2: It hasn't It's been sadly neglected in Alice Springs too,

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Speaker 2: so that's something I'm looking at. But yes, just getting

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Speaker 2: behind this legislation to reinstate the alcohol restrictions is vital

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Speaker 2: to the future of the whole of the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: I thank god that the Chief Minister saw fans. I

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Speaker 2: by that very bad decision she made back in July.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that will be forthcoming, but look, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there'll be lots of sparks and heated debates, and

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Speaker 2: I just hope that I don't get kicked out.

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Speaker 1: Katie, Well, here's hoping. I'll be watching Question Time. Try

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Speaker 1: your beast to behave I know it's hard sometimes, I know.

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Speaker 3: Oh Robert Lambley, good to catch up with you. Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for your time. Thank you,