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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's look at what's happened. He I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: know this story by now as a friend of Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 2: who recently took his own life in prison. Or did

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Speaker 2: he speculation he may have been murdered?

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Speaker 3: Who he has all this information on the most powerful

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Speaker 3: people in the world, and then unexplainably he managed to

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Speaker 3: kill himself in jail.

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Speaker 2: What are the chances?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: This is so convenient?

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Speaker 2: Well, he's a friend of Prince Andrew's. The issue being

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Speaker 2: that Prince Andrews was still a friend of his after

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Speaker 2: his prior conviction. He was convicted on the sex charge

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Speaker 2: sex trafficking charges a number of years ago. Andrew was

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Speaker 2: still his friend, but he is now trying to backpedal

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Speaker 2: as tour and his interview yesterday, I love this description

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Speaker 2: of it because he gave an hour long interview to

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Speaker 2: a journalist and this guy is the editor of the

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Speaker 2: Royal Central website which covers the British money and he

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Speaker 2: said I expected a train wreck, but this was a

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Speaker 2: plane crashing into an oil tanker, causing a tsunami, triggering

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Speaker 2: a nuclear explosion. That's how bad it was.

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Speaker 3: Was it that bad?

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Speaker 2: Well, I The background to this is he is claiming

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Speaker 2: there's a photograph of him with a seventeen year old girl.

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Speaker 2: She is saying that she was procured for sexual purposes

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Speaker 2: by Jeffrey Epstein and on a number of occasions she

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Speaker 2: had it off with Prince Andrew. He's denying all of this,

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Speaker 2: and they say, well, look at that photo, isn't that you?

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Speaker 2: And he says, I have no recollection of that photo.

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Speaker 2: It does kind of look like me, but that could

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Speaker 2: be docted because I.

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Speaker 3: Don't remember saying the hand is docted.

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Speaker 2: He said. I wasn't a particularly great friend of Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: He says, although he stayed at his house at least

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Speaker 2: three times in recent years, because when he's overseas. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many people you have that aren't great friends,

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Speaker 2: that you stay with overseas at least three times when

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Speaker 2: you could afford a hotel.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. I haven't stated anyone's house. I haven't stated anyone's house.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember the last time I stat at someone's house.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't. My brother lives in Brisbane. I don't

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Speaker 2: see him as often as this, But no, they weren't

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Speaker 2: very close friends. And of course then he had the

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Speaker 2: photo that was of the two of them at Central Park.

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Speaker 2: That's because Andrew had to fly to the States to

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Speaker 2: stay with him one more time to tell him why

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Speaker 2: he couldn't be friends with him anymore.

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Speaker 3: Well, he dies to do things proper.

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Speaker 2: So these were the issues that were being discussed in

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Speaker 2: this interview. First up the night that supposedly he was

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Speaker 2: supposed to have been going to a nightclub and having

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Speaker 2: relations with this particular woman, he says that didn't happen

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Speaker 2: because he was here.

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Speaker 1: On that particular day that we now understand is the date,

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Speaker 1: the tenth of March. I was at home, I was

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Speaker 1: with the children. I'd taken Beatrice to a Pizza Express

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Speaker 1: in working for a party.

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Speaker 3: Why would you.

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Speaker 4: Remember that so specifically? Why would you remember a pizza

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Speaker 4: Express birthday and being at home?

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Speaker 1: Because going to pizza Express in where is an unusual

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Speaker 1: thing for me to do.

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Speaker 3: So it's flying around a private jet with an underage girl,

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Speaker 3: I would imagine, I.

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Speaker 2: Can't remember that, but I remember Pizza Express. Actually, so,

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Speaker 2: this particular Pizza Express in Woking has had the funniest

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Speaker 2: things uploaded to their trip advisor's site. People with these

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Speaker 2: false testimonies, people highlighting how unforgettable the pizza is at

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Speaker 2: twenty years later. That's all I can think about. This

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Speaker 2: is always treated like royalty when you go there. Another

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Speaker 2: reviewer wrote, a great place for an alibi. But the

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Speaker 2: thing that he refused, seems to refuse to understand is

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Speaker 2: the gravity of this. He says, I'm sorry if I

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Speaker 2: let the royal family down nothing at all by having

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Speaker 2: that friendship with him. I've no anything wrong, just a friendship,

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Speaker 2: no sympathy at all for these women who have been

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Speaker 2: sex trafficked, to have been plucked out of places where

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Speaker 2: they're working and made and procured as sex objects for

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Speaker 2: Epstein's friends all around the world. Here's how tough he is.

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Speaker 2: When he talks about his mate Jeffrey, he goes hard.

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Speaker 1: Do I regret the fact that he has quite obviously

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Speaker 1: conducted himself in a manner unbecoming.

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Speaker 2: Yes, unbecoming.

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Speaker 4: He was a sex offender?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm being polite. And in the sense

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Speaker 1: that he was a sex offender, I'm being polite.

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Speaker 3: You've got to be polite about sex, That's what I do.

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Speaker 2: But with all these royal advisors and all these people

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Speaker 2: who could have steered him to save himself. I can

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Speaker 2: only imagine that they said, point out the good parts

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Speaker 2: of your life, point out your heroism, et cetera. Because

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Speaker 2: here's how he explained why it could not have been

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Speaker 2: him in a nightclub having a sweaty dance.

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Speaker 4: She described dancing with you and you profusely sweating, and

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Speaker 4: that she went on to have possibly there's a.

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Speaker 1: Slight problem with with the sweating because I have a

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Speaker 1: peculiar medical condition, which is that I don't sweat, or

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Speaker 1: I didn't sweat at the time, and that was yes,

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Speaker 1: I didn't sweat at the time because I had suffered

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Speaker 1: what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in

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Speaker 1: the Falklands War when I was shot at uh and

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Speaker 1: I simply it was it was. It was almost impossible

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Speaker 1: for me to sweat.

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Speaker 3: Bravo.

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Speaker 2: So I explained the best the whole Royal family could

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Speaker 2: come up with, law record, I sweared a bit in

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Speaker 2: the Falklands and I ate pizza, and we vilify Megan

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Speaker 2: Mikal for being a bit uper self at Wimbledon.

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Speaker 4: Wow Wow joined the end Amanda in the morning at

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Speaker 4: one point seven, tell you