WEBVTT - Rich B*tch 💍

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the most painfully normal looking people live the most

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<v Speaker 1>interesting lives. Personally, I don't know what that's like, as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm both absolutely stunning and incredibly interesting. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>generously giving my time to these regular people so I

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<v Speaker 1>can uncover what interesting part of them they are concealing

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<v Speaker 1>from the world. It might be a spooky hobby or skill,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's a naughty side hustle or job. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, I will uncover it. Welcome to conceal it

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<v Speaker 1>with me, Art Simone, I've a feeling. Our guest is here,

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<v Speaker 1>roll the tape. Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Jess. I live in Melbourne. I am

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four years old. I enjoy walking my dogs, drinking

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<v Speaker 2>Chai and singing karaoke. I worked as an executive assistant

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<v Speaker 2>for many years, including for Peter Alexander, but now I

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<v Speaker 2>found another way to help people use in my own

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<v Speaker 2>set of skills, and that is what I'm concealing today.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Hello, how are you good? Welcome to the studios,

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<v Speaker 1>and cozy you're not. It's like a sheerbty orangey cozy jumper.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really need to talk about your bling. I

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<v Speaker 1>was distracted the whole time you were speaking at your

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<v Speaker 1>bling on those fingers. You've got sparklier rings than a

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<v Speaker 1>drag queen. I know. Oh, show me, show me both hands.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all about the sparkle.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know? So rich bitch? I'm writing, rich bitch?

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<v Speaker 1>Got that? There dogs? How many dogs you got? It

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<v Speaker 1>was multiple?

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<v Speaker 3>It sounded like, I know, I've got two dogs to.

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<v Speaker 1>A tape of I'm not a dog person, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretending is that? Can you tell? What? What? What type

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<v Speaker 1>of dog is it?

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<v Speaker 3>We have got to west Thiland Terry a cross.

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<v Speaker 1>Little white ones. Now, you said you were an E

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<v Speaker 1>A yes, e A for p A Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What's an E executive assistant?

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<v Speaker 1>That's very fancy title.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it is.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>A fancy job?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's basically being everyone's everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. So when you say Peter Alexander, do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean the person? Yeah? The man think you at

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<v Speaker 1>the shop? I was like, oh so you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're stuck in the candles and stuff, aren't

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<v Speaker 1>for the real deal? What am going to do is

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<v Speaker 1>asking three questions, and from the answers to those three questions,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to try and work out what it is

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<v Speaker 1>you're concealing from me today. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right. First question is when are you at

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<v Speaker 1>your most.

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<v Speaker 2>Relaxed when I'm getting a massage, but only for the

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of minutes, and then things start to get

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<v Speaker 2>a bit hectic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, a message, are right? So you like

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<v Speaker 1>the massage, but then you don't hot and cold?

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<v Speaker 3>Hot and cold?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I don't like being touched. So I've only ever

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<v Speaker 1>had one massage in my life. Really yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was that alabachet by a student, so that's probably why

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's put me off it for life.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't try again?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I've just got one of those balls

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<v Speaker 1>and I roll away hands on the back.

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<v Speaker 3>That works.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So most relax and massage okay, all right. Question

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<v Speaker 1>number two, how do you like your steak cooked?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I don't actually eat meat, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I did, probably medium misteak.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but don't eat steak, but if you had to. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all over the shop, all right. The last

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<v Speaker 1>question for you is what type of music are you into?

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<v Speaker 3>Soul music?

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, all right, let me work out with what

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<v Speaker 1>you've presented me here with. Okay, e for pa sausage,

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<v Speaker 1>dog chai bling rich bitch, massage, medium, steak, don't eat meat,

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<v Speaker 1>soul music.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, okay, right, this is all over the shop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just right in front of me. I can see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really yeah. Massage. Oh oh oh, I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked out the clues. I think I've worked it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is in specific SPA No,

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<v Speaker 1>because I get it because your mashage first couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>but then because they're touching you, the touch you feely

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that medium. You're in the medium world as

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<v Speaker 1>in a medium and then also so well old souls,

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<v Speaker 1>dead people. Okay, know what the title? Are you an

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<v Speaker 1>old sole medium, massage searcher, medium, therapist person? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the medium psychic objects people things?

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<v Speaker 3>What's it called?

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<v Speaker 2>I am a psychic medium, which means I communicate with

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<v Speaker 2>people that have passed over to the other side. A medium.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think I think I got it. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. But you don't think you'd be called a

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<v Speaker 1>soul search medium, massage therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think so, but it's it's new.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to take that as a win. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got that pretty done right today. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a bit worried she ready my thoughts right now, she'd

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<v Speaker 1>know that when she said medium, I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of large. All right, Jess, you are a psychic medium,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very excited, but I feel like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between the two. Can you explain to me the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between a psychic and a medium.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So a psychic is someone who taps into you

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<v Speaker 2>and your energy and gives your guidance on the future,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in your life right now, and a

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<v Speaker 2>medium is somebody who connects with the other side. So

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<v Speaker 2>a psychic medium kind of does a bit of both.

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<v Speaker 2>So like with the dead, with the dead people, with

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<v Speaker 2>the dead.

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<v Speaker 1>People, what side of it do you like the most?

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<v Speaker 3>The medium?

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, yeah, I love connecting with all the dead people.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop stop it all right? Okay, when did you first

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<v Speaker 1>realize you had this? Do you call it a gift? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I would call it a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always have had this really strong like intuition. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been aware of, I guess the other side. I

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<v Speaker 2>just never really knew what to do with that. I

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<v Speaker 2>just really strong got instinct, like I would just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of know things before it would happen. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>until I was in my twenties that I decided, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do something about this. Because I was

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with psychic mediums. I would go to mind, body,

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<v Speaker 2>soul festivals and see psychic mediums myself, and one lady

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<v Speaker 2>said to me, Jess, I don't know why you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be able to do this, and I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how kind of thing. It took me a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years to sort of figure it out that, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>explored it.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you learn to kind of hone that

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<v Speaker 1>skill or tap into that a bit more rather than

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<v Speaker 1>just a feeling, you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I did lots of meditation classes, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing, and then I took like psychic mediumship

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<v Speaker 2>classes kind of like school. So I went and did that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was mentored for a few years. I

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<v Speaker 2>read for free for anyone who would let me, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just ended up opening my business and throwing caution

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<v Speaker 2>to the wind, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Here I am.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you find a place where you can study,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being a psychic medium? How do you tap

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<v Speaker 1>into all these do you have to like imagine them

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<v Speaker 1>and you go looking for you put an advert to

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<v Speaker 1>like a mental note out and just hello, looking for

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<v Speaker 1>someone to help me with this or you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know these people are legit or you can

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<v Speaker 1>trust them or I guess is it all just down

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<v Speaker 1>to you and how your your gutter is feeling you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell the you know, swindle as m Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the way that I figured out was I actually

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<v Speaker 2>saw this particular psychic medium myself, so she read for

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<v Speaker 2>me and it was spot on, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I really like the way that you work.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like into that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I ended up looking her up and then I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that she did courses and she's actually a teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>like she teaches like school kids and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, you'd be so good you know

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<v Speaker 3>how to teach how to teach kids? Like sure you

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<v Speaker 3>know how to teach me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just awesome and she'd learned from some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best like psychic mediums like that.

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<v Speaker 3>There is like all around the world. They do a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually in the UK, there's a lot of really great

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<v Speaker 2>people over there. But the way that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to find someone is if you're in the

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual community and you start looking up psychic mediums and

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<v Speaker 2>just go and see them yourself, because if they're legit

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<v Speaker 2>to you, then you're going to trust them and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to want them to teach you what.

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<v Speaker 1>They Where do you learn it? Do you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a castle or do you have ones?

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<v Speaker 3>Crystal no, no, crystal balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the first time that I went, I actually went

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<v Speaker 2>to a group session, so I dragged my friend along.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, We're going to this to see what happens,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got in there. Actually we got.

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<v Speaker 2>There and they were doing like this meditation and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how we connect to the other side and

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<v Speaker 2>then you got paired up, like there was just throw

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<v Speaker 2>you else.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>She was with a total stranger and they're like, now

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<v Speaker 3>close your eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>And tell us what you've And this is my first

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<v Speaker 2>time channeling, so I like closed my eyes and I

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<v Speaker 2>started to sense and feel all this stuff and everything

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<v Speaker 2>I said to this woman it was her dad that.

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<v Speaker 3>Came through was just spot on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then afterwards I looked at my friend and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you go?

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<v Speaker 3>And she's like, I felt nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw these lots of color and all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like the fat it was just nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt hungry, I felt tired, and from anyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I got nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>But literally the two days afterwards we were all. We

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<v Speaker 2>were both on a high. It was the best energy ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to be in the room was so cool. But

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<v Speaker 2>I actually learned during COVID, so I was all online.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was zoom classes and no castles, just like, straight.

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<v Speaker 1>To it set your zoom background is the castle if

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I could have if onally I had have known

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<v Speaker 3>back there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's okay, that's okay. So how do they

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<v Speaker 1>test you at a medium school? Do they do? They

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<v Speaker 1>go like, well, we know that hander over there has

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<v Speaker 1>got a grandma and her name's Nancy. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>they just don't get tested.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well sort of, you get like, well, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to record my readings, so I would record it and

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<v Speaker 2>I would send it to my mentor.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she'd rip it apart. She's like, that could

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<v Speaker 3>have been better. That could have been better.

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<v Speaker 2>But I chose someone who is really blunt because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just like people to just tell me how it

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<v Speaker 2>is like, don't fluff it up and say, oh that

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<v Speaker 2>was great if it was really no good. So she

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<v Speaker 2>was really direct with me, and it was just it

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<v Speaker 2>was good, exactly what I needed.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you're a vessel of delivery to whoever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be, or whether you like it or not. How

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<v Speaker 1>does it? How do these things present themselves to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hear something, do you see something, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel something? Or probably all of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much all of that. So I'm very clairvoyant,

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<v Speaker 2>so I see first. So I'll get like flashes of

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<v Speaker 2>images in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot tomes, but yeah, I get flashes of images.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see people that I know, So it's interesting how

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<v Speaker 2>spirit works. Sometimes they'll show me like people that I

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<v Speaker 2>know who have passed, and then I go, oh, either

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<v Speaker 2>this person i'm channelings pass the same way as them,

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<v Speaker 2>or they're like them. So it's sort of like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're putting together a puzzle and you don't really

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<v Speaker 2>understand what it all is about, and then that's why

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<v Speaker 2>you obviously need the person to fill in the blanks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like we're working.

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<v Speaker 2>Together to like build this puzzle. So it's really fascinating,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel I feel a lot like a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the emotion comes through from the person on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side and the person in front of me, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean you've not even able to hone it

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<v Speaker 1>all a little a lot better? Can you choose when

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<v Speaker 1>you tap into this or is it still coming at

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<v Speaker 1>you whether you like it or not. Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely can turn it on and off.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't want to be walking around seeing all

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<v Speaker 2>the people of everyone like it's just not it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can definitely like it's almost like opening a

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<v Speaker 2>door and then closing the door.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I visualize when I'm communicating.

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<v Speaker 1>With spirit out of office email kind of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where the massage just gets a bit tricky

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm in that meditative state and spirits like She's.

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<v Speaker 1>We're maybe relaxed. Maybe that's why I don't like massages.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the spirits are going to come to you.

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<v Speaker 1>The only spirit I'm in contact with is vodka. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's but you know, I can hope, I can hope. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people say that things like gut instinct.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have it, and it is all derived from

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<v Speaker 1>this way that we can't explain of reacting to things

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<v Speaker 1>or seeing things or feeling things. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>people like you just have that better honed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly how I would describe it. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is why I don't buy into I'm a chosen one.

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<v Speaker 2>Like really, anyone could do this. It's just a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of whether you're open to it and how far you're

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<v Speaker 2>willing to sort of pursue it.

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<v Speaker 1>What type of person comes to you, Like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>they want?

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<v Speaker 2>I want lots of people, but I think that they're

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<v Speaker 2>mostly coming to either get closure or heal from something,

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<v Speaker 2>or get guidance about their life right now. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are stuck and that's why they come. It's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like seeing a therapist. It's like I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>this certain point in my life where i need guidance,

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<v Speaker 2>I need help. I need just some something to believe

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<v Speaker 2>in or some hope that there's something better that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>for me. So my readings are all about like giving

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<v Speaker 2>people positivity and hope, and it's I don't buy into

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<v Speaker 2>all that fear based stuff, like I don't like any

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm more just let's look at the future and look

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<v Speaker 3>at the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that scares a lot of people as well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, They're like, you're going to tell me something bad

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not. It's okay. So a lot of people are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like other mediums can be very fear based, where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm a chosen one and I know things

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<v Speaker 2>and I can read your mind and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Not in any of.

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<v Speaker 1>That, that's not for me. So you said, you always,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like delivering your positive things. But it's anything

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<v Speaker 1>like strange or scary happened to you, like this, is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything like I don't know you nobody. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. Not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, my sister haunted us when she passed away,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was next level.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it was a prank.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit of both.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a bit of her being a bit mental.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a lot like she would open our

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<v Speaker 2>door at night, like swing open, and we had like

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<v Speaker 2>three dead locks on it. And so this is like

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock in the morning. So I ran out and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the door fly open. I was like whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>so I shut it. Then I went you just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, to miss the door, but you think

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<v Speaker 2>that freaked me out was the next thing. So then

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<v Speaker 2>I went back to the bedroom and then the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of light went off outside out the front and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's weird because that's there's someone out there. So I

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<v Speaker 2>looked through like the blind and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>my car started unlocking and locking itself, like multiple times,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, okay, now I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like that either. So and she did weird things.

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<v Speaker 2>She like got you know the exercise balls you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about before, the balls that you roll on like to

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<v Speaker 2>massage yourself. I have one of those in my wardrobe,

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<v Speaker 2>but my wardrobe closes like you've got the door that

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<v Speaker 2>closes over it, so she would have had to open

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<v Speaker 2>my wardrobe get the ball. And she dropped it on

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<v Speaker 2>my wife's face while we were sleeping. It was in

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<v Speaker 2>the bed with us, the physical ball and my wife's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw her face. I opened my eyes because I

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<v Speaker 2>felt something and I saw her with the ball over

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<v Speaker 2>my face and dropped it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeing it's next level.

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<v Speaker 1>So then how do you tell your sister fuck off.

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<v Speaker 3>I basically did an exorcism of.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, yes, I had to sage plisanto. So I now

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<v Speaker 2>use a lot of limes. So limes are really great

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<v Speaker 2>for like clearing negative fear based energies and dark spirits

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. So if you cut a lime in half

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<v Speaker 2>and put it in your bedroom, you'll have sound dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's working.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that have to be a real lime? It can

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<v Speaker 1>be lime scented things like a candle, it can.

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<v Speaker 3>Be lime scented.

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<v Speaker 1>I love candy, Yes, I love that. What are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the more positive things that being in this field

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<v Speaker 1>is gifted you the opportunity to do? Or you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I did not realize that as a psychic

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<v Speaker 2>medium that you can connect with people who are still

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<v Speaker 2>living but are living with dementia or a nonverbal which

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<v Speaker 2>is the first time it happened to me, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>hang on, this can't be a thing. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>was exploring it more and more and it started happening

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<v Speaker 2>to me more often, I'm like, it's real. Like these

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<v Speaker 2>people who we look out and we're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>they're tortured, like they're stuck in this body and they

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<v Speaker 2>must be really suffering. They're actually not because their minds

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<v Speaker 2>are wandering to the other side and back, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing loved ones. They're coming through to me to give

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<v Speaker 2>messages that they know what's going on. Like I had

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<v Speaker 2>this grandmother come through for her granddaughter, who was obviously

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<v Speaker 2>my client, and she said some funny stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, all I want is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn biscuit and I want my pillow back.

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<v Speaker 3>And my wife was like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>When we went when we put her into the home,

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<v Speaker 2>she couldn't have her pillow because it's triangular and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a hazard.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had to take her pillow away from her.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I've got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So every time I go in and talk to her,

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<v Speaker 2>I make fun of her because I've got her pillow

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just torturing it to me to get a damn

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<v Speaker 1>pillow back. Oh wow, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But how cool is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think of that, But that does make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's if that ability is taken away, it does make

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<v Speaker 1>sense that you can tap into, you know, expressing and

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<v Speaker 1>communicating with people in another way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I know. So that's incredible. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>best things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I was to walk in here as a skeptic,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a particular story or case or case case study?

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<v Speaker 1>But is there a particular story or occasion you would

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<v Speaker 1>tell me to convert me into a believer?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you know what, I think that it has to

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<v Speaker 2>be something that's like personal to you. So I could

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a million stories, but until you actually experience

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<v Speaker 2>it yourself, that's when that light bulb will go off

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<v Speaker 2>for you. So I think you just have to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of be open and explore it in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess it's not your role to convert people into,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, believing what you do or believing in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole world, because you're either in and you're out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think people get there in their own

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<v Speaker 2>time too, So you might have like I have people

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<v Speaker 2>that I channel and they didn't believe it here, but

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<v Speaker 2>now they're on the other side, they're like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be into this now and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. So some people never believe while they're here,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we know on the other side they believe.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's all in divine timing, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone goes to you and they're really hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>get in contact with someone or to get some news

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. What do you do in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where nothing's happening, you can't deliver them any news.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very rare that I can't read for somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, it's not dial a spirit, so we can't always

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<v Speaker 2>get exactly who we want.

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<v Speaker 3>But most of the time it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I just go with the flow and see what

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<v Speaker 2>comes through naturally first and who steps forward. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do give my clients the opportunity to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>let me know if there's someone in particular they were

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<v Speaker 2>hoping to connect with, just so we can make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that we hit all of the nails on the head.

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<v Speaker 1>If you need to tap into something, is there you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is there something that really helps you, whether it's an

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<v Speaker 1>image or an object or is it some things that

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<v Speaker 1>like are particularly like a fast track to oh great,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really use anything like that. Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just let my senses do their things. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got the brain, I've got the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Different. So you said the best way to make someone

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<v Speaker 1>from a skeptic into a believer is to have something

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<v Speaker 1>personal to them, or be able to tap into something

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<v Speaker 1>that they go. Yes, I could meditate, I could hum something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, is there anything I don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>What you need to do is you need to close your.

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes, both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you can just close one.

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<v Speaker 1>I got this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can hop around the room yep, and breathe

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<v Speaker 2>very deeply. Now are you feeling anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a spirit. Then I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think I did think this would stitch up. Oh Jess,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a stitch up. And now I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to drop dead from embarrassment. But maybe then she'll be

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