1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: There is plenty of work underway at the moment in 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: a real effort to try to make sure that Territorians 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: are vaccinated. And I know that well, there's plenty of 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: work going on with Danilla Dilber and also AM SANT 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: in an effort to try to make sure that our 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Indigenous Territorians are vaccinated. And joining us on the line 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: right now is John Patterson, the CEO of AM SANT. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, John, and a very. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Good morning to you Katie. Happy Tuesday. 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, John. I know that you've launched something a 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: little bit different this morning, the Bus Stopping the Pandemic campaign. 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Tell us a bit about what this is. 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Well, in partnership with our local Aboriginal Medical service 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: he at Donana Dilber and Congress and Alas Springs and 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: the support of the tertiary government through the bus services, 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: we've actually identified and realized that messaging key messaging to 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: a most vulnerable population, the indigenous popular of the Northern Territory, 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: needs to be paramounts. We've brainstormed and come up with 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: a number of initiatives and one of those was getting 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: the vaccination signed on the back of four buses in 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: the Dale and Palmston region which will be on those 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: main arterial routes and two buses in Nallo Springs that 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: will carry these key messages and the signing on the 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: back of those buses as well. So we thought given 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: that a lot of our mob you know, do catch buses, 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: that's you know, mode of transport, we thought, well she 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: was with you know, while they're catching buses, they can 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: perhaps see some of those key messages as well. So 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: it's a great way to get those key messages out, 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, buses and the public eye most of the 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: time and anything coding, anything to get those messages out 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: and get encourage people to get vaccinated. We need to 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: need to support and get on with. Initiative we launched 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: on the weekend was with the AFL and T a 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: partnership with AFL and T. The foty season just started 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: in the northern at the top end yep. And yeah, 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: we've got great support from AFL and T and you 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: know they're not adulbre again and am sad to put 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: up key messaging and signage in the change rooms in 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: the taught ablution blocks down a TiO More and other 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: public places around the around the building there, the grandstand 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: and other key points where people hopefully we'll see the 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 2: signage and we'll take heed of those key messages. 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: I reckon it's a good idea, John, and I think 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: like you'd said, you know, whatever we can do to 46 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: try to make sure that as many Territorians as possible 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, particularly our indigenous territorians. How are those vaccination 48 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: rates going from your perspective? Are you finding that you've 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: had a bit of a you know, a better run 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: over the recent weeks. So since we last spoke. 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: We've had some small games, Katie. I've been on leave 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: recovering from some minor surgia for the last three weeks, 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: so there's my first week back. I'm catching up with 54 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: all the details as we speak, but I am aware 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: that Onion, any our member service, under any health service 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: in the Barkley region, they've come up with a very 57 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: detailed plan, vaccination rollout plan for the entire region there. 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: So the government, as you're probably where the federal government, 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: have prioritized four regions now in the Northern Territory. That's 60 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: been the Berkeley East, Arnham Down and Palmerston and they've 61 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: now included the Ala Springs and areas around Ola Springs 62 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: because there's priority areas. So each of those areas need 63 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: to develop a vaccination rollout plan. Most of them have 64 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: done or in the process of near completing. YEP, and 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: we'll throw everything out getting those numbers up in thoset 66 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: four particular areas where the numbers are slightly down. Katie. 67 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that's again a good idea. We 68 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: want to ensure that everybody is vaccinated. John, are there 69 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: any you know, like, are there any areas where you're 70 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: still a bit concerned or do you feel as though 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: we are going to get to those rates? I know 72 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: that you're aiming high. You're aiming for that ninety percent. 73 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: Do you feel as though that is going to be possible? 74 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: It's going to take a big effort, Katie, but we 75 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: need to aim that that high. You know, we this 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: deadly virus gets into any of those remote communities as 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: we saw in you know, western New South Wales, some 78 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: of those regional communities there that are highly populated with 79 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: original people, it'll it'll take. It's told. You know, there 80 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: are big numbers infected given the population. You know, chronic illnesses, 81 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: most vulnerable overcrowding, et cetera, et cetera. It'll have a huge, 82 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: each detrimental impact on our community. It's not a matter 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: of if it'll be you know when it gets there. 84 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: It's coming, there's no doubt. Well, I don't think we 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: can keep it out, No, and that's something we've got 86 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: to face the reality here, Katie and work on the 87 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: base that this will get in the teratory and possibly 88 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: into the communities. Hence, while we're pushing really really hard 89 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: for everybody to seriously consider getting vaccinated, yeah, we can't 90 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: stress that message. More important than and getting vaccinated to 91 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: protect yourself, protect your family, and protect the community and 92 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: protect the territory. 93 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: John, we've been talking at lengths over the last few weeks, 94 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: and I know you've been on leave, but we've been 95 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: talking at lengths over the last few weeks about the 96 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: stress on our health system at the moment, particularly in 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: the Palmerston Regional Hospital and also in the Royal Darwin Hospital. 98 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: We know that there was another code yellow called in 99 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: about a week ago. We've been speaking to the Nurses' 100 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: Union and also to the Australian Medical Association's Northern Territory 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: branch about the need for more nurses here in the territory. 102 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Have you got much concern in this space, particularly when 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: you talk about you know, the possibility of COVID and 104 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: the delta strain you know being here in the territory 105 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: at some. 106 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: Point, Absolutely, Katie, And look, it's an issue workforce issue 107 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: for the territory government. But we want to work with 108 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: all levels of government to ensure that we can secure 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: the workforce, the surge workforce, bring them into the territory 110 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: and wherever we can get them from. Let's put our 111 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: strategic thinking caps on, because we are also in need 112 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: of nurses in our remote clinics as well. Both the 113 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: territory government system health system along with ours are in 114 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: a similar boat in regards as workforce requirement and urgent need. 115 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: And you know, we definitely want the governments to can 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: consider an allocation of nurses and other clinicians that we 117 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: can secure here for the Northern Territory to also be 118 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: working in our sector. And we made that point quite 119 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: clear from the outset. We knew that, you know, there 120 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: will come a time when we're going to put strain 121 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: on the workforce in the health system right across the 122 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: board from primary health care to tertiary and hospital, you know, 123 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: kid care, and we've just got to be at the ready, Katie. 124 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: And we've got to do everything in our powers to 125 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: ensure that we keep every territory and safe and given 126 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: the best care if this deadly virus gets into the place, 127 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: and run the MUC like it has been learning in 128 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 2: other jurisdictions, John. 129 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how many stuff you know 130 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: you require? I know that you said that surge workforce 131 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: and thinking about putting our thinking caps on to try 132 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that we are recruiting. I know that 133 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: cath Hatcher from the nursing and we're for a unit 134 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: it set up to one hundred. The Health Minister was 135 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: the show earlier this morning and said that they're looking 136 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: at between fifty to seventy staff. Do you have any 137 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: idea how many staff realistically we require out in some 138 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: of those remote communities. 139 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: Look for some unmown reason, the number of fifty comes 140 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: to my mind, Katie, but that might be refreshed whilst 141 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: I've been on leave. But that's the sort of numbers 142 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: I'd rather have more than not enough, you know. So 143 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: we've got our game aim for a large number of 144 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: clinicians that we can get into the territory, whether they 145 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: be from overseas or nationally. It's a big struggle, a 146 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: big bear at the moment to get them from within 147 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: the another jurisdiction because of the lockdown and the enormous 148 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: rates of COVID unfortunately still in New South Wales to Victoria. 149 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: So look, we've got to really, like I say, put 150 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: our strategic thins and caps on about where we consume 151 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: secures this workforce and get the number of required phinicians 152 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: and territory. 153 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: Well. John Patterson, the CEO of am SAM, we always 154 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thank you very much for having a 155 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: chat with us this morning, particularly on your first week 156 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: back at work. Thanks mate. 157 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Ka for the continuing ACCE