1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Good morning everybody, and welcome to the Daily ODS. It 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: is Tuesday, the twenty sixth of April. I hope you 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: all had a wonderful long weekend. If that was indeed 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: the way that you spent your time, if you were 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: part of the retail, hospitality sectors or any other sectors 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: that worked, I hope everyone spoke to you nicely. Zara, 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: we are back for another week. It's another week on 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: the campaign trail. Anthony Alberanezi is still in isolation for 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: a couple of days, but that hasn't stopped the political 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: news from coming. Before we talk about the French presidential election, Zara, 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: what is making use this morning? 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: This morning, we're still talking about the Liberal candidate in 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Waringa because Swimming Australia has threatened legal action against a 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: conservative activist group called Advance for It used images of 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Australian swimmers in an ad that said women's sport is 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: not for men. This was in response to some of 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: the critiques of the candidate for Waringa, but in a statement, 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: the organization that is Swimming Australia clarified that Women Australia 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: believes in a competitive environment that is inclusive fair and 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: equitable for all athletes at the same time. 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Defense Minister Peter Dudden has compared Russian President Vladimir 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Pusian to Adolf Hitler in an interview on Anzac Day yesterday, 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: saying quote, we have to be realistic that people like 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: Hitler and others aren't just a figment of our imagination 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: or that they're consigned to history. We have in President 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: Pudin at the moment, somebody who is willing to kill 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: women and children. 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln and Defense Secretary Lloyd 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: Austin have met Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski in Kiv, this 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: being the first meeting since Russia's invasion. The US announced 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: after the meeting additional military assistance for Ukraine and the 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: gradual return of US diplomats to the country. 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: And today's good news, a World War One medal has 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: been returned to the family of a First Nation soldier 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: it belonged to. The medal was discovered in a locked 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: box and returned to the family of the soldier in Melbourne. 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: While you were out spending time with your loved ones 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: over the long weekend, there were some big political news 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: from across the other side of the world, and that 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: was of course the election in France. So French president 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Macron was returned as France's president after beating far 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: right candidate Marine Lapenn in the national presidential election. It 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: was an election that the entire European continent and indeed 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: the world was watching, and for very good reason. Sam 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: stuff from the beginning and talk us through the results 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: and then what it actually means. 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: So Emmanuel Macron beat Marine la Penn fifty eight point 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: five five percent to forty one point four to five percent. 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: It was, however, the biggest share of the vote a 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: far right candidate has ever received in the country. So 51 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: Marine la Penn is a far right candidate. She runs 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: on a very far right platform. And that's a really 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: important part to take out of this result. That forty 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: one point four to five percent of France voted for her. 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: So despite the size of Macron's projected victory, this victory 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: fell well short of his sixty six to thirty four 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: percent of Marine Lapenn in twenty seventeen. The result means 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: that Macron became the first sitting French president to be 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: reelected in twenty years. They tend to go through presidents 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: the same pace that we go through prime ministers. It 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: was the lowest turnout for a French presidential election since 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, with only seventy two percent of voters 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: casting a ballot. We're going to talk through why that 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: is in a second. According to partial results, six point 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: four to five percent of voters in the election voted 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: for neither candidates, so they rocked up to the polls 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: and decided to leave a blank ballot, whilst another two 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: point thirty five percent spoilt their ballots by drawing or 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: writing or scribbling all over. It a real sense here 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: that there was a very unhappy French populace this election. 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I hope that we have lower levels 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: of donkey votes here in Australia when we go to 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: our federal election. But moving on, what did we hear 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: from the French leaders after the result was announced? There 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: were some amazing photos of Macron addressing the crowds. 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: It's a funny one, Sara, because the photos of Macron 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: standing in front of the Eiffel Tower in front of 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: this cheering crowd suggested that it was a bit of 79 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: a love fest. But in fact, because of the massive 80 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: percentage that Marie La Penn received, Macron's speech was quite subdued. 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: He addressed the trend in the victory speech, and he 82 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: told the crowd that an answer must be found to 83 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: the anger and disagreements that led many of our compatriots 84 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: to vote for the extreme right. It will be my 85 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: responsibility and that of those around me. Over the other 86 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: side of Paris, we heard as well from Marine Leapenn, 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: who said that she would never abandon the French and 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: was already preparing for the June elections, and I'm going 89 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: to talk about that in the sec She was confident 90 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: that the result represents a brilliant victory. She said, this 91 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: evening we launched the great battle for the legislative elections. 92 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: All right, So I foreshadowed this at the beginning, But 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: can you talk our listeners through why this election results 94 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: is important, why the rest of Europe was sitting up 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: in their seats and watching, and really what it says 96 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: about where Europe is at. 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Well, I was just hinting at the point there, but 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: it really is less about what Macron is going to 99 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: do over the next five years, and it's more about 100 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: how close Europe got to what Lapenn would have done. 101 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Even Macron in his speech said, quote, many of our 102 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: compatriots voted for me not out of support for my ideas, 103 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: but to block those of the extreme right. What would 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: a la Penn presidency looks like. Ultimately, she would have 105 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: advocated for France to leave the EU. She even wanted 106 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: to restore France's alliance with Russia once the Ukraine conflict 107 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: was over, and this was actually a really big point 108 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: of the French election. There was a loan that Marie 109 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Lapenn took from a Russian bank closely associated with Vladimir Putin, 110 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: that she's never paid back. So one of the catchphrases 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: used by Macron during the election was that Putin was 112 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: Lapenn's bank. This is a really important point. Macron was, 113 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: according to all analysts, especially effective in tying Lapen to Putin. 114 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: In the eyes of the French people. The election result 115 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: is really good news for the Western alliance on behalf 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: of Ukraine because it shows kind of a defiance against 117 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: Putin's powers. But it is bad news for Russian leader 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, who was very close to having an ally 119 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: in mainland Europe. Macron's reelection is also a sign of 120 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: strength for the European Union and a bit of a 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: setback to those who would weaken it or break it 122 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: up through a similar mechanism like a Brexit. The other 123 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: important point I wanted to mention is that since the 124 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: retirement of German Chancellor Angela Merkle late last year, mccron 125 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: was this leader figure in Europe. He assumed a bit 126 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: of a de facto paternal figure role. That's why you 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: see so much commentary about how important this election was 128 00:06:59,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: for the content. 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: Okay, and was there any reaction from here from Australia. 130 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: We heard from the Prime Minister yesterday who welcomed Macron's 131 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: election win on Twitter. He said, congratulations Emmanuel Macron on 132 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: your reelection as president. Another great expression of liberal democracy 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: in action in uncertain times. Obviously referencing the tensions that 134 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: we just spoke about. Diplomatic relations between Australia and France 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: have been a little tense in recent times. This follows 136 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: Australia's decision to scrap a multi billion dollar submarine contract 137 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: with France in favor of nuclear powered vessels. With the 138 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: Orcust Security Pact. There was, of course that unfigurable moment 139 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: at last year's G twenty where Macron accused Morrison of 140 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: lying to him about the terms of the submarine deal. 141 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: How could we forget? And the whole of Twitter decided 142 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: it was a good time to dig up that vision 143 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: yesterday to wrap up, can you just tell me a 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: bit about France's political system and kind of what happens 145 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: from here for people that might not be familiar with 146 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: French politics, because I know I certainly wasn't. 147 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a really weird system. It's kind of got two 148 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: channels that they vote on at very different times. And 149 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: what we saw over the weekend was the presidential race, 150 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and this is a classic two horse race. It took 151 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: a little while to dwindle the candidates down to and 152 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: A VERSU B. But once they had those two, it 153 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: was kind of you're voting for one of voting for 154 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the other. The legislative elections and that forms those in 155 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: the National Assembly. They're over two rounds on June twelve 156 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: and June nineteen, and so now Macron has no time 157 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: to waste at all. He has to start campaigning straight 158 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: away for these legislative elections so that he can actually 159 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: control the House of Parliament. And pass laws. Without control 160 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: of this assembly, the French president won't be actually able 161 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: to do anything. If Macron's party, which is called Republic 162 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: on the Move, lose its majority. They currently hold the 163 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: majority in the House. Macron could be faced with a 164 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: hung parliament, a fractured parliament, whatever you want to call it, 165 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: and he will need to enter into negotiations for every 166 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: single decision he wants to execute. 167 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: So will the National Assembly then just be the major 168 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: focus for the newly re elected president. Surely there with 169 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: so much happening across the world, there needs to be 170 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: at least two things high on the priority list. 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. He needs to make sure he is 172 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: in fighting form for those June elections. But he has 173 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: to address the escalating inflation triggered by the impact of 174 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: any new energy sanctions on Russia and the growing cost 175 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: of living price. You know, we're having the same discussions 176 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: here as we are all over the world. In France 177 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: is not an exception to that. But then there's this 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: extra crisis of the growing refugee issue. About five million 179 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: people have fled Ukraine in two months, and refugees are 180 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: heading into countries that boughty Ukraine like Poland. They've already 181 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: taken three million of the five million refugees. But it's 182 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: those countries like Poland that are looking to their European 183 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: counterparts to share the weight of this crisis. France have 184 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: not been that active in taking in Ukrainian refugees. So far, 185 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: about thirty thou refugees have arrived from Ukraine and they've 186 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: pledged to take another seventy thousand, but it's a pledge 187 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: that many in Europe are saying will be far from sufficient, 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: and the new president will have that to deal with 189 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: straight away. 190 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you for making us all pros 191 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: in French politics. But there is of course a lot 192 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: happening here domestically, so we're going to be dual Australian 193 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: and French experts by the end of this week. That 194 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: is all we have time for today, though, if you 195 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: want to keep up with what is happening both here 196 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: and abroad, follow us on Instagram at the Daily OS. 197 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 2: It's where over three hundred and fifty thousand Ozsies get 198 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: their news every day and we'd love to have you 199 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: there as well as here. Have a great day,