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Speaker 1: The Wiggles acknowledged the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia

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Speaker 1: and their connections to land, see and community. We pay

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Speaker 1: our respects to elders, past, present and emerging.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wiggle Talk, a podcast for parents. We're figuring

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Speaker 2: it out right alongside you. My name's Simon. I'm the

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Speaker 2: Red Wiggle, and.

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Speaker 3: My name is Lucky and I'm the Purple Wiggle and Simon. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's a deer Weigle segment today. But first I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to you know, when you normally say you're six

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Speaker 3: foot four, yes, well I've got sore shoulders.

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Speaker 2: Saw shoulders have come. Do you know why? Why?

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Speaker 3: Well for those very lucky few people, and lucky's probably

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Speaker 3: a very strong word, but those people in America when

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Speaker 3: we were there recently. Yeah, I did the lift.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big strong John.

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Speaker 3: You were lifting, well, I was lifting, big strong job.

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Speaker 3: He's very strong, yes, but quite weighty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a good way, in a very good way.

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Speaker 3: And I am still yesterday actually I ran off to

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Speaker 3: the chiropractor because I've got sore.

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Speaker 2: Shoulders from Matt Still.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's actually it's not just a terrible posture or anything.

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Speaker 3: They're actually quite a little bit inch it really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what did he say?

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Speaker 3: She said, you really probably what you've done is you've lifted.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was further. Sorry, I should explain first,

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Speaker 3: I did the dirty dancing. I've had the time.

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Speaker 2: What did you do? In John?

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Speaker 3: He ran at me. He was helping me, which shows

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Speaker 3: how really I didn't not very impressive at all really,

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Speaker 3: but he put his heads of my shoulders. I grabbed

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Speaker 3: his hips straight above my head, did a circle. We

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Speaker 3: did it for about three shows and then I couldn't

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Speaker 3: do it after that.

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Speaker 2: For the rest of the tour. Haven't been the same since.

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Speaker 3: No, but she said, what you've done is because you

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Speaker 3: were catching him in front. You really probably used your

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Speaker 3: chest as well, which guys do because we just think

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Speaker 3: we do more chests than back exercises.

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Speaker 2: That's another thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I used the wrong muscles and it's really

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Speaker 3: put I don't know what watched it's called, but they're

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Speaker 3: now and really set my shoulders back and do back

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Speaker 3: exercises to get them back into position.

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Speaker 2: Wow, well you need what Lauren recently brought on Amazon. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Lauren buys a lot of things on Amazon. And it

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Speaker 2: is a device which you put over your neck and

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Speaker 2: shoulders and it's got a little sense at the back

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Speaker 2: that sits in between your shoulder blades and when your

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Speaker 2: posture drops, it buzzes at you and remind you lift

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Speaker 2: your lift.

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Speaker 3: Not like a shot collar, no, just okay.

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Speaker 2: And so it reminds you that your posture and I

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Speaker 2: guess outpostured it all the time now from phones and

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Speaker 2: every and we all stump forward. So you wear this

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Speaker 2: thing to remind you do need that you've got to

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Speaker 2: sit up straight. That was from Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go to the gym. Yeah, I'll work on

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Speaker 3: my what are they called seated rose?

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Speaker 2: Seated rose?

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Speaker 3: Yeah you lack pool downs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's called your rhomboids are in between your

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Speaker 2: shoulder blades. It's those muscles you need to pull together.

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Speaker 3: I haven't wanted to say anything to John. I feel

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Speaker 3: batter his fault because he had beautiful techniques.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did very well actually, But anyway, or at least,

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Speaker 2: you don't need your shoulders for this next bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's that time again. Dear Wiggles is where you

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Speaker 3: can send us your questions dilemmas, anything.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: This one is from Leah and she asks, my daughter

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Speaker 3: loves dancing at home, but she freezes up in class.

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Speaker 3: How do I help her enjoy it without pushing too hard?

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Speaker 2: Now, Lockie, we we're not exactly dances ourselves. No, we're

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Speaker 2: good movers, very yes, but you know we do know

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Speaker 2: a few dances. We've got a few in the building

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Speaker 2: here and they're here with us today. So we thought

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Speaker 2: we might ask some of our Wiggly friends to help

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Speaker 2: us out with this question. We've got Lucia, Evie, so

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Speaker 2: Hi and John to help us out for this one.

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Speaker 2: Wigle Talk, Talk Talk, Wiggle Talk, It's near Wigles, authorized

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Speaker 2: by Simon Locky.

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Speaker 3: We've got so high in the studio. Now so high.

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Speaker 3: We've got a question. My daughter loves dancing at home,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? I actually think Wiggles help that.

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Speaker 5: I used to dance all around the house listening to Wiggles,

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Speaker 5: and then that's how I got into dance classes.

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Speaker 2: Did you model your dance moves off any particular weeks?

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Speaker 4: Make Dorothy?

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Speaker 5: But I think with that question, I think just let

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Speaker 5: her know that it's all for fun. When you're enjoying it,

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Speaker 5: other people can feel your joy. So if she knows

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Speaker 5: that she can feel comfortable to do what she feels.

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Speaker 5: She feels like she's having fun at home, just mirror

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Speaker 5: that in class. I know it's hard because there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of people around you, and you can feel like

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Speaker 5: maybe you're not keeping up. But if you just enjoy it,

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Speaker 5: you feel the music, that's the way it works. I

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Speaker 5: think that's what's great about dances. If you're having fun,

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Speaker 5: other people can tell that too.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember going to like a first class and

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Speaker 3: feeling a bit nervy though or anxious?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely feels a new style for sure. I

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Speaker 5: think dances there's so many different dance styles, and if

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Speaker 5: there's stuff you do at home maybe different to what

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Speaker 5: who we've done it earlier than you and feel a

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Speaker 5: bit nervous. But I think your dance teacher wants to

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Speaker 5: teach you that That's what they're there for, is to

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Speaker 5: teach you how to dance and help you learn. So

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Speaker 5: I think knowing that you're in a safe environment and

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Speaker 5: everyone there had to start somehow. Is a good way

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Speaker 5: to make you feel that you can be there. You

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Speaker 2: And it's okay not to be getting it right. Part

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Speaker 2: of the point of the class is to have fun

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Speaker 2: and to learn, and Evee learns at different stages and

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Speaker 2: different times. And as long as as you're saying you're

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Speaker 2: and that's really what it's all about. So get rid

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Speaker 2: of that expectation about having to do these dance moves correctly.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. That's why there's the phrase dance like no one's watching.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. I've taken that to heart.

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Speaker 4: Your dance moves are pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, sir. That's really kind of you. I've

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Speaker 2: got my own dance school coming out soon called this

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Speaker 2: Simon's School of Dance, and that's there's three.

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Speaker 4: Moves, Simon says.

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Speaker 3: Groo, welcome, Luchia, she's back.

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Speaker 6: She's back your favorite guess.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, what do you think about this one? Luch

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Speaker 3: My daughter loves dancing at home, but she freezes up

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Speaker 3: in class. How do I help her enjoy it? Without

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Speaker 6: Yes, that was actually exactly me when I was I

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Speaker 6: think I was like four.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was four.

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Speaker 7: My godmother had taken me to a dance school to

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Speaker 7: I was two, nervous, I was crying, didn't want to

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Speaker 7: dance school. I actually asked her about this before to

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Speaker 7: when I was four, But she said she brought me in.

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Speaker 7: She didn't make a big deal of it, you know,

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Speaker 7: She said, I missed Donna. This is Lucia. Miss Donna said, Hi, Lucia,

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Speaker 6: Because she didn't make a big deal about it or

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Speaker 6: I just went in and somehow that that really worked

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Speaker 2: Is sometimes making maybe making a bigger deal about going

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Speaker 6: It also helped on the other side, when I did

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Speaker 6: I'm still friends with a lot of them to this day.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, having it just very calm, not feeling like

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Speaker 6: they're pressured to do anything. And I'd actually like to

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Speaker 6: get your opinion on this. If you do see them

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Speaker 6: like dancing at home, would you say to them you

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Speaker 6: you How did you approach it?

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Speaker 2: I found with Asher, if he's something that's interests him

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Speaker 2: and he can do quite well. If I actually make

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Speaker 3: Actually he doesn't, yeah, because.

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Speaker 2: At the moment he doesn't really want to stand out, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so he's happy to do something. So I actually

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Speaker 2: find that I down, I make sure he knows that

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Speaker 2: what he's doing, he's doing good job, but not actually

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Speaker 4: I relate to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was probably very much the same.

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Speaker 8: Very interesting you, Evie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the pod.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We called the pod. You can call the pod too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we've got a question about dancing, which thought you

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Speaker 3: would be a have some insight.

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Speaker 2: But my daughter, did you know that Evie professional. I

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Speaker 2: can't even say it because I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: A professional ballet dancer with.

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Speaker 3: The Australian Ballet. How many years nine years? Nine years?

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Speaker 3: Or Evie this one says. My daughter loves dancing at home,

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Speaker 3: but she freezes up in class. How can I help

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Speaker 3: her enjoy without pushing too hard? So do you have

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Speaker 3: any memories of your young self going to class for

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the very first time, but I did

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Speaker 1: love going to class. But it can be It can

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Speaker 1: be different every day going into that environment, and can

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Speaker 1: be different for every child as well. I think having

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Speaker 1: the choice obviously was always really helpful. If I wasn't

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Speaker 1: feeling up to class and I was like, oh, the

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Speaker 1: pressure to keep going to the dance class and my

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Speaker 1: parents have organized and I love dance class and I

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Speaker 1: love dancing, but for some reason, I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: it or I'm having some big feelings and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it's about. And kind of just having that

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Speaker 1: pressure off made it easier for me to be like,

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Speaker 1: I can go and I do want to go, instead

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Speaker 1: of this is the schedule, this is you know, this

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Speaker 1: is your Friday afternoon time to go to class. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can go, or you can stay home, or you

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're forced to and then you more

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Speaker 2: than likely will want to go anywhere. Yeah, because you're

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Speaker 2: making that choice. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: And just that kind of gentle encouragement of Mum will

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Speaker 1: she'll drop me off and she'll be there when I'm finished,

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Speaker 1: or if I need to come home sooner, there's that option.

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Speaker 1: I think just making it a really kind of open

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Speaker 3: I find that really interesting because we tried a little

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Speaker 3: Now it's going to all be different at each each age,

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Speaker 2: How do you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I suppose you just The answer is you

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Speaker 2: Different styles and then maybe it's an age thing, isn't

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Speaker 2: it that if it's too soon, you could try again

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Speaker 2: a year later. You have a very different to do.

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Speaker 2: We did not want to bar the why am I here?

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Speaker 2: And so we we didn't force it, but that's it.

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Speaker 3: We just left the dance of the ninja. Well, I think,

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Speaker 3: did you start with ballet specific?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 8: I did them all?

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Speaker 1: The very first thing I did was just movement. I

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Speaker 4: For that, there is. You've made it.

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Speaker 3: The okay, So you just did dance more general before

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Speaker 2: This is a ballet.

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Speaker 1: And then there are all the different styles of classes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Did you dance early? Did you go to a school?

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Speaker 8: No, I've never been to dance lessons, went to I

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Speaker 8: was on the street. But yeah, I can definitely relate.

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Speaker 8: I think freezing up in classes common. I used to

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Speaker 2: Had more fun with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think that's the main thing, just having fun, don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is a good point. Have fun with it,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's probably the big key to you. You

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Speaker 2: don't want to You need to find the right school

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. Just have fun, don't take it too seriously.

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Speaker 8: Everyone's learning at the same time.

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Speaker 2: You just have funds, which is a lot more concise

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Speaker 1: Yes, I just had a.

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Speaker 2: Well, lucky, that'll teach you a few wiggles to come

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Speaker 3: They were thank you for their help. They've all been dancers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. I mean, and you had a dance year.

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Speaker 2: I remember you.

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Speaker 3: Had to dance here?

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Speaker 2: Ye, talk about that old to dance here? Yes, I

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Speaker 2: was still very quie right.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Yes, a dance here when I was an adult.

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Speaker 2: Yes, at drama school, yes.

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Speaker 3: Before drama school for dramas, before getting.

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Speaker 2: In and it's held you in goodstead.

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Speaker 3: Well yes, it was very good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good for your confidence actually yeah, yeah, very good, excellent.

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Speaker 2: I think that whole physical awareness is just great for confidence, isn't,

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Speaker 2: which is what dancing and gymnastics and all those kind

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