1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: The government earlier this week announced that they'd be increasing 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: the Home and Business Battery Scheme bonus from five thousand 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: dollars to twelve thousand dollars from December one. The boost 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: of the scheme is going to provide Territorians with greater 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: access to renewable energy solutions, lowering energy bills and supporting 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: local businesses involved in the supply and installation of solar 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: PV systems and batteries. The Deputy Chief Minister and also 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Minister for Renewables, Jared Maylee, joins me on the show. 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Goodbarding to your minister. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, Minister, 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: the scheme kicks in on December one. Has there been 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: a lot of interest so far. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: Yes, Katy, there's been a lot of interest. So what 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: our scheme does is essentially double the battery bonus for 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: home and businesses. We know that the Labor government had 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: set it at six and then they actually put it 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: back to five in the previous term. For what we 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: want to do is we're going to bring it out 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: to twelve thousand dollars to just allow that cost of 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: living pressures so the plan is that people will be 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: able to have this battery system at home. I better 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: use their solar panels during the day to charge up 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 2: the batteries and then they can use the batteries throughout 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: the night. And what we're trying to achieve here is 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: just to reduce power bills either to zero and be 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: negative or very small depending on what sort of home 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: you have and how many children and air cons and 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 2: things like that that you use during the evening. 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: So how much is it all going to cost? 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Well, look, ultimately, the second part of this scheme, Katie, 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: is we're actually doubling it the pool of money or 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: the pot of money from three million dollars up to 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: six million dollars. So it's going to cost six million dollars. 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: This is not just a scheme where you just get 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: twelve thousand dollars. You have to put some money, your 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: own money into the skin in the game in relation 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: to buying the battery. So it's really a partnership between 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: the government and the private industry and people who want 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: to be able to take advantage of the scheme. We're 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: going to promote it because it's about renewal energy, it's 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: about lowering the cost of living, and we're going to 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: work with own owners and also business owners to allow 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: people to have those batteries, reduce the cost of living 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: and basically had their own little virtual poal plan at 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: home where they can operate as they see fit. 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Minister. When the former government changed the fall 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: of the solar feed in tariff for households, people were furious. 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: Territorians were absolutely furious about that change. As I understand it, 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: you have confirmed that the peak feed in tariff for 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: households is going to increase. What are Territorians going to 52 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: be able to get? 53 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: Look, I understand why territories are furists because the Labor 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: government promised not to change those feed in tariffs for 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: those grandfather but people already had it and then they 56 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: broke that promise and did it. The coealp have been 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: very clear leading up to the election that we are 58 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: going to double the feed in tariff to up to 59 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: just over eighteen cents during peak times, which is between 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: three pm and nine pm during the day in the evening. 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Is it going to cause stress though for the whole system? 62 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, is this something that is going to put 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: real pressure on our networks. 64 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: Ultimately, the plan is to be able to these people 65 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: have the soulars during the day, the battery at night 66 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: and operate independently from the system. And of course they 67 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: can bring power in if they're using more power during 68 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: the evening. But we want to try and do is 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: ease that cost of living and also ease the burden 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: on the power and water. In relation to this view, 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: we know that in territory we have lots of sun 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: maybe not that the last few days there's been raining 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: a little bit, but ultimately we've got a fair bit 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: of sunshine up here. So we're encouraging people to take 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: advantage off the scheme, buy some batteries, will chip in, 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: you chip in and ultimately loveel that cost of living 77 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: and over renewable energy. 78 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: So Minister, as I touched on, we know the former 79 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: government made changes to this people are furious about it 80 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: is what you have now announced earlier in the week. 81 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Does that actually take people back to the promise that 82 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: the former government had said that they weren't going to break. 83 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Is it as good as as what they thought they 84 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: were going to get. 85 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's as good. We've double the 86 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: feed in tariff up to eighteen just over eighteen, Killer Watson, 87 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: our I don't have soul panels. I think it was 88 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: higher than that previously. But what we are trying to 89 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: do is just give a bonus. If you are going 90 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: to conserve energy and you want export into to the system, 91 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: you can do that. And it's at eighteen just over eighteen. 92 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: Then's perticular? What hour? All right? 93 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: And when is that going to come in to effect 94 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: the feed in tariff changes? Because I know from December 95 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: one is where we're going to see a boost to 96 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: the battery scheme as I understand it. But when is 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: it for the feed in tariff? 98 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct. So the battery start December one, which 99 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: is Sunday, and the feed in tariff starts on July one, 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, So next financial year next year? 101 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: How come not until next year for that one. 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: We're just waiting the Power and Water tell us that 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: are doing a system upgrade in early twenty twenty five 104 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: and it will just go hand in hand with our 105 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: system upgrade and then we've just basically picked the new 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: financial year to kick it off. 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: All right now, Minister, I do just want to move 108 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: along because we know that we've spoken quite a bit 109 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: this week in fact about the territories gas supplies and 110 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: the concerns of potential blackouts caused by issues without supply. 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: Bill Yan has now confirmed that the government's suing our 112 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: major gas supplier over supply curtailment that has forced the 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: government to seek fuel and other short term deals. Now 114 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: the Order to General says this has led to a 115 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: forty eight point three million dollar fiscal deterioration for Power 116 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: and Water Corporation. Deputy Chief Minister, this is a massive 117 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: cost and a real concern to Territorians who want to 118 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: keep the lights on. Where are these proceedings. 119 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: At look, Ultimately there are proceedings on foot in ration 120 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: at so I can't talk too much about that, but 121 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: what I can say is that our government have secured 122 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: emergency arrangements in relation to the gas producers in Middle 123 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: Arm to be able to keep the lights on. So 124 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: there's no problems the lights they are going to be on. 125 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: We're going to be generating power. But it just really 126 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: goes to show you how the previous government dropped the 127 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: ball in relation to gas. We've got the bea Looo 128 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: sitting just to the south of us years and years 129 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: in years worth of gas and we are now having 130 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: to spend this money because the Labor government dropped the ball. 131 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: So what we're doing is we're promoting Bede Loo and 132 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: I've been down in myself a few weeks ago and 133 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: we want to get that kicking off as much as 134 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: we can. We're doing our soul a feed in tariff 135 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: and battery bonus now as well to be able to 136 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: get those batteries to ease the pressure on power, water 137 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 2: and also the cost of living. So we're taking these steps, 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: but ultimately, we've only been in office for thirteen or 139 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: fourteen weeks. We've done a lot, but we can't do 140 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: things quickly overnight. We have to get it done right. 141 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: So we're trying our best and we're just doing all 142 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: these things to make sure that the power stays on 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: and also the cost of living is ease through the battery. 144 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: It seems like it seems crazy that we are in 145 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: a situation where we've got these gas reserves in the 146 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: Northern Territory. But the potential here is from what the 147 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs Minister it even said to us earlier in the week, 148 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: is that you know it may be situation where We're 149 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: then having to buy gas from Queen Zone or have 150 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: it exported then to us from Queen Zone. Like that's 151 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: quite unbelievable. 152 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: It's just absolutely crazy. You know, ultimately, we know the 153 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: b loose there. The Labor government had eight years to 154 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: get it up and running and get it into the market. 155 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: They failed and that you know, ultimately some of the 156 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: previous government couldn't even say the word gas, Katie. 157 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: It's true. I know it was during the week that was. 158 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: I usually wouldn't agree with everything a ministersease, but it 159 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: is true. 160 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: Jared, Well, unlike myself, look and our government, we support 161 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: gas fully. We want to get that gas out of 162 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: the ground. We're not going to cutting corner. We're going 163 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: to do it right, don't get me wrong. But we 164 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: need to make sure we get that happening quickly. And 165 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: that's why the Charity Coordinator has been introduced to be 166 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: able to allow industry and not just the gas industry, 167 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: but right across the territory to move some of those 168 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: roadblocks and get things happening in the charitory and to 169 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: rebuild our economy, because that's what one of the platforms 170 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: we went to election on. We want to make things safe. 171 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: We want to rebuild the economy and also restore our lifestyle. 172 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: You mentioned that that territory coordinator role, and I know 173 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: earlier in the week you had about one hundred protesters. 174 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I believe maybe it was more or less. I'm not 175 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: sure outside of Parliament house protesting that that position. I mean, 176 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: what do you say to Territorians that are maybe a 177 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: little bit concerned about this territory coordinator role. I guess 178 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, the fact is that the territory coordinator is 179 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: not only going to be looking at gas projects, is 180 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: he No. 181 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: He's him looking at any project right across the Northern churchy. 182 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: If there's a projects of significance, and there's it can 183 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 2: be brought into the church of coordinator and then the 184 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: church or coordinator can help it facilitate the program and 185 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: right through the government, facility industry. Wultimately, what we want, Katie, 186 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: is the territory quider is sitting there tilling their thumbs 187 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: doing nothing, because that means the government processes are working well. 188 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: But what I do say to those people out there 189 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: is go and read the information yourself. Going out, there's 190 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: a whole information on our website if you want to 191 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: contact any electoral officers that I've all got guides and 192 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: information about how that works, and I invite you to 193 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: go and have your say. That's open right now. This 194 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: particular piece of legislation is going to be tabled next year, 195 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: so all through the Christmas period as an opportunity to 196 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: have your say, we invite as many people as possible 197 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: to have your say in those processes. What I say 198 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: to them, go read the information, put your submission in. 199 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: I say that to industry, put your submission in so 200 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: we can get all the information together and if we 201 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: need to tweak the legislation, we will, and then we'll 202 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: bring it into the House and then we're going to 203 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: actually refer to the Scrutiny Committee as well. So I 204 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: really can't think of too much more legislation that hasn't 205 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: undergone as much public scrutiny as possible to be able 206 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: to make sure this legislation is fit for purpose and 207 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: of course makes it easy to do business in the 208 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: Northern Territory Jared. 209 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: Mainly before I let you go. The Northern Territory government 210 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: has indeed written to the dah and port operator land 211 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Bridge seeking information after learning that it is facing fresh 212 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: financial woes. What could this all mean? Could it mean 213 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: that this lease with land Bridge comes to an end? 214 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: Well, look, old mkay, I think it's too early to tell. 215 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: We certainly don't want to go and start rumors and 216 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: make information at not true. What we need to do 217 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: is sit back. We need to make sure we look 218 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: at all the facts. We need to go to that organization. 219 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: I know the Treasurer is going into camberd today to 220 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: speak to people about it. We need to speak to 221 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: that organization and we need to make sure we know 222 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: exactly what the situation is and it needs to be 223 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: resolved as quick as possible. 224 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Deputy Chief Minister and also Minister for Renewables, 225 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: Jared Mayley, really appreciate your time this morning. I know 226 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: it's a busy day with Parliament sitting. We'll catch up 227 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: with you again very soon. 228 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, Thank you,