1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Hello. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: My name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr the 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Order Kerney Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before we 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, acknowledging 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: the storytelling of you to make a difference for today 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: and lasting impact for tomorrow. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. She's on the Money. She's on 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: the Money. 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: for millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: one of our money diaries where we get to talk 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: to one of our incredible She's on the Money community 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: members all about their journey. Let's jump straight into it, 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: but before we do a little content warning, this episode 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: is going to discuss suicide, abuse and mental health. The 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: message that we got this week went a little bit 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: like this, Hi, She's on the Money. I'm thirty one 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: with two kids and I have just started my career 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 3: while studying. I lost my partner in late twenty twenty 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: one to depression and almost lost my life too. My 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: relationship with money has been all over the place due 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: to my bipolar but I'm finally on the right medication 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: and can now work and study. I have savings and 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: a pre approval to buy a house, and I'd love 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: to share my story with the community. Money Diarist, I 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: would love you to share the story with the community. 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's okay. I don't know where to begin. 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: No, you, you don't even have to know where to begin. 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm just grateful that you're here. I have the questions, 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: you just need to have throwing the answers. So let's 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: start where I always start in twenty twenty three, and 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: that's money Diarist. From the get go, I want to 38 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: know what grade would you give your money habits if 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: I asked you to give yourself a grade from A 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: through to F. 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point I would say C. Just a 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: flat seat. 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: A flat seat, all right, all right, we'll come back 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: to that. But before we come back to that, I 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: want to know a little bit about your money story. 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Are you happy to share? 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: Definitely? Well, I mean, growing up, I had a probably 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 4: anxiety driven relationship to money. My mum was ultra frugal, 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: and you know, it was op shops and food banks 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: when we needed it, and my dad was very frivolous. 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: He would be in and out of work all the time, 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: so we would sometimes be eating like kings and then 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: other times we would be going school with stale bread sandwiches. 55 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: It was all over the place. And so when I 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: got money, I just clung to it. And Mum would 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: say that she'd take us to the shops and she'd 58 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: ask us if we wanted anything, and I'd say no, 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: just want to hold onto my money. And then as 60 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: I got older, I moved out of home at sixteen, 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: and I was on medication. At the time. I'd been 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: diagnosed with bipolar of fifteen, so I was on medication 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: and I was able to move into state work and 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: study at the same time and just be financially independent, 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: which was really nice. I still kind of really held 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: on to my money, and I didn't really I couldn't 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: make savings because I wasn't earning much. Yeah, I just 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: held on to it. And then I moved back to 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: my hometown and met my partner who I would end 70 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: up having two kids with for we could off straightaway, 71 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: but he had some problematic behaviors, and part of it 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: was telling me I didn't have bipolar so I went 73 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: off my medication and that's when everything went crazy. So 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: we were together for nine years, and through that nine years, 75 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: I was up and down all the time. I would 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: save money, hold onto a job, and then I'd spend 77 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: it all, quit the job. It was just a mess, 78 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: and we were breaking up and getting back together all 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: the time. Because of my money history, I didn't like 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: to take money from him. I always wanted to be 81 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: independent because the way he gave money, it was always 82 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: with strings attached, and I couldn't handle that because it 83 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 4: was pretty much the financial abuse. No it was. 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty much. 85 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: It was from my understanding of the way you just 86 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: explained that it's hard to hear sometimes, but straight down 87 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: the line that when money is given with some kind 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: of strings attached to it and you don't feel comfortable 89 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: in that situation, regardless of whether that's five dollars or 90 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: five hundred dollars, that is a level of financial abuse, 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: and it's it's heartbreaking because it's still that's the person 92 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: you loved, right, Like, there's two sides to that coin. 93 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: It's not oh, they're the worst person ever. It's oh, 94 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: I love that person, but I'm going through this. It 95 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 3: can't be that bad, right, Yeah, exactly. So I justified 96 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: it all the time, and as a result, I stayed 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: on centilink and didn't take a dime from him, and 98 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: so I couldn't get ahead. I was on centilink. And 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: with bipolar you go up and down obviously, and eventually 100 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: he had depression as well, which he didn't do anything about, 101 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: and after some situations we got into, he ended up 102 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: going to the mental for a bit and coming back out. 103 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: But he was earning really good money. He was a 104 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: rope access technician, so he was on high rise buildings 105 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: and dealing like super high rise buildings all the time. 106 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: Oh. 107 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: I could never that is literally I could never. The 108 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: most scary job you could think of. To think that 109 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: you're doing that job and also have your brain about you, 110 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. What do you mean I have 111 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: to do that and work at the same time. Wow, No, 112 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: wonder he was on good bank because he deserved. 113 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: It, Yeah, one hundred percent. So yeah, he was battling depression, 114 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 4: and even though he was earning good money, I don't 115 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: know where it went. It never really came towards me 116 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: and the kids. Toward the end, I did get him 117 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: to start paying child support. Like we were together, but 118 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: not together all the time. It's really complicated relationship, and 119 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 4: I think that's what comes with an abusive relationship. It's 120 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: not look through it. It's kind of like all over 121 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: the place. And so I ended up cracking in twenty 122 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: twenty one, all the pressure got too much for me. 123 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: I had a really bad episode and I ended up 124 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: in the mental ward in the public system, and I 125 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: had no money. I had spent it all on god 126 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: knows what, and I was at a really, really, really 127 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: low point, and I was told if I don't go 128 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: to the mental ward that they'll put me in. So 129 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: I chose to go by myself, and I stayed there 130 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: for a month. And I have two little girls there, 131 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: seven and four. They stayed with my mom, so my 132 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: mom was very supportive during that time, and their dad 133 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: looked after him as well, quite intensely. And that was 134 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: probably the longest he'd spent with them consistently in quite 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: a while. Because we lived a part and then when 136 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: I got out, that's when we had an argument and 137 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: he decided to take his life, and that was really hard. 138 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: Lotry, you know that has nothing to do with you. 139 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: That's not your fault, right you know that. 140 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely. 141 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is not your decision. 142 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, It's been definitely a rollercoaster, and I think 143 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: I ended up going back into the mental ward because 144 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 4: that was quite horrific and I wasn't set up for success. No, 145 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: So that was again really hard on both me and 146 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: the girls and our relationship. And at this point, I 147 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: think I couldn't go back to my rental that I 148 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: was renting out, that I was in a rental and 149 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: I couldn't go back, So my dad emptied out the 150 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: rental and I moved back in with my parents. 151 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 152 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: I'm so glad to hear you had your parents during 153 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: this process. 154 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. Been amazing. 155 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: Oh what wholesome human beings. 156 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, definitely. I don't know what I'd do without them. 157 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: They've been a huge cushion to my success in the 158 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: past year and a half. But after I got out, 159 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: I moved back in with my parents and in the 160 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: mental ward it was really good because I finally got 161 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: on medication that was suitable, Yeah, Gorge, And it was 162 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: the first time I'd been stable in quite a while, 163 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: and I didn't know what stability felt like. So two 164 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: months on, after everything had happened, I decided I wanted 165 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: to get a job because my anxiety about money just skyrocketed. 166 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: Freaking out that the girls would have nothing in their 167 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 4: future and it was all on me, you know, and 168 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: that freaked me out massively. So I decided to go 169 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: back or go to work full time. I hadn't worked. 170 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: I think I had like three thousand dollars in my 171 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: super at the time, and I was like, you know, 172 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: you've got to stuff somewhere. I didn't have a degree, 173 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: I didn't have experience, but I just picked up a 174 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 4: I think it was a contract position paying like forty 175 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: five or fifty thousand a year, and then worked in 176 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: that for a while, then got offered a permanent position, 177 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: and then moved from that position to another position. And 178 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: now I've just taken up a new job and it's 179 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: paying much better and my soup is growing and everything's 180 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: going well. So that's kind of where I am today. 181 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you to go through that situation, 182 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: and then you got back on the horse, you got 183 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: a job. You have stood up in a way that 184 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: your kids needed you to. I cannot begin to think 185 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: about how proud your girls are going to be when 186 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: they're at an age that they can comprehend what you 187 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: went through, Like, Oh, my gosh, they're going to be like, 188 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: our mum is a bloody legend. 189 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: I really hope. 190 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: So, oh no, no, no, they will, They absolutely will. 191 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: So I want to know. So you said before you've 192 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: got a better position. What does that mean? What do 193 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: you do for work? 194 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: Now? 195 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: How much money are you earning? 196 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I work in HR and I am earning well. 197 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: I think my total enumeration is ninety eight thousand. 198 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 199 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: And you went through this circumstance at the end of 200 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, which from my very basic maths means 201 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: it's been just over a year. Is that about right? 202 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: And you've turned your life around completely. You're on the 203 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: right medication. You look, from my perspective, like a glowy, 204 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: happy human. And I mean there's probably a lot going 205 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: on there, but you just look like that is not 206 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: a circumstance that you had to experience. 207 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's not a circumstance. I still kind 208 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 4: of fathom that I experienced. 209 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: No, of course not. 210 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: You said in your letter into us that you know 211 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: you're in this circumstance where you've got pre approval to 212 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: buy a house, Like what you have savings, I wouldn't 213 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 3: know what are your big money goals, what are you 214 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: working towards. 215 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I did get a preapproval. I got it 216 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: on the two percent home loan scheme for single parents. Yeah, 217 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: And I kind of got it because I got kicked 218 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: out of my rental and I was like, that's it. 219 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: I've had enough renting. So I decided I just throw 220 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: my hat and see what happens if I tried to 221 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: go for a pre approval. So I talked to a 222 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: mortgage broker and I got approved, and I was really shocked. 223 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: And then I was like, wait, hold on, I don't 224 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: think I can actually service alone yet. 225 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: But you'll get there. And I think that's so exciting. 226 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to buy a house, but I want 227 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: to be able to actually afford it in the long term. 228 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 4: Even though I got my pre approval, I, like I said, 229 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: I want to be able to afford an actual like 230 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: mortgage plus all the extras and like crunching the numbers. 231 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's doable and still having a 232 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: life outside of that. 233 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, that's one of the most intelligent 234 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: things you can do in the home buying process, because 235 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: I think people get so caught up in saving their 236 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: deposit or like really you know, being frugal to the 237 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: point of missing out on everything just to get to 238 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: that point where they buy the home, and they really 239 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: don't conceptualize what life is going to look like when 240 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: you have a mortgage, when it's your responsibility that the 241 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: hot water system breaks, you have to pay for it, 242 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: and when it's your responsibility to pay all of the 243 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: rates and all the bills and everything that comes with that, 244 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: and you just think that where you're coming from and 245 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: that mindset of like, oh, I just want to you know, 246 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: I've got this pre approval which a lot of people 247 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: would just run straight into and be like, all right, well, 248 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: give me the loan, give me the house, like pre 249 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: approved ten out of ten, tick, let's go. I think 250 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: that you've got this really great mindset of like, oh, actually, 251 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: can we get to a point of you know a 252 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: little bit more financial stability that is going to serve 253 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: you so well long term, and it makes me so 254 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: happy to hear that money diarist. The next question I 255 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: have for you you mentioned before I only had three 256 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in super. That's still three grand in super 257 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: and that is still better than nothing, my friend. But 258 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: I want to know do you have any investments. 259 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: I've got one thousand, seven hundred on chezeas and my 260 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: suffers come up to seven six hundred. 261 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's growing quickly. 262 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's getting there. 263 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: That's really exciting. So tell me a little bit more 264 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: about your investing journey. You said I have seventeen hundred 265 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: dollars on Charesis, which that's a big deal. A lot 266 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: of people don't even take that step. How did you 267 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: take that step? 268 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: Like? 269 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Why are you investing? What are you investing for? 270 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I've been listening to Cheese on the Money 271 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: for quite a while, and so when you guys were 272 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: promoting Scharzease, I was like, I'm going to check that out. 273 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: And I looked at it. It was really easy to understand. 274 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: So I kind of just took the leap and I 275 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: was like, oh, chuck, you know a little bit of 276 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: money here and there and see it grow. It's dropped 277 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: down a bit, but I plan on keeping it like 278 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: long term. I don't really check it much, but I 279 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: want to be like a really long term investor. I'm 280 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: not too worried about risk because I believe it always will. 281 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: End up going up eventually over the long term, I 282 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: think is the best way to be investing. To flip that, 283 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: Do you have any debts? 284 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I do. I have my hex debt which is 285 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: sitting at twenty six thousand, and that's because I'm currently 286 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: studying and I've also did a beauty therapy diploma which 287 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: didn't work out. 288 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's okay. We live and we learn. We live 289 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: and we learn. What are you currently studying? Like, what's 290 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: the big career goal? Because from my perspective, you're on 291 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: a pretty good innings right now. 292 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm adding to that. I'm studying HR, a 293 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: degree in HR. Now. I want to improve in my 294 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: career and I really want to grow. And it took 295 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: me like thirty years to figure out I actually like HR. 296 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: So how good? No, I love that. I feel like 297 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: KHR is an underrated career. Honestly, you get to work 298 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: with people, you get to have an impact like it 299 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: is something that I probably could see myself in one 300 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: thousand percent. 301 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's. 302 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: Awesome, Money Diarists, Let's go to a really quick break. 303 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: After the break, though, I want to talk to you 304 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: about your best and your worst money habits, but I 305 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: also want to delve a little bit deeper into finding 306 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: the right medication and how that works and the impact 307 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: of that on your quality of life. 308 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: So guys, don't go anywhere, money diarist. 309 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: I'm meant to go back to the questions, but I 310 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: don't want to go back to the questions just yet 311 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: because I really want to talk about the right medication. 312 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: And I have spoken before on this podcast about how 313 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: I am medicated for anxiety and depression and that it's 314 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: something that I know I will always be medicated for. 315 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: It's not something where the second I know I'm better, 316 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to go off it. Money Dirist, you've experienced. 317 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: I guess both sides of that coin. You said you 318 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: had been diagnosed with bipolar in your teenage years, you 319 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: were medicated, maybe not the right medication. You then went 320 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: off medication, and now you're on the right one. Can 321 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: you talk us through I guess that journey and how 322 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: it impacts your quality of life, because I feel like 323 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: you're a different person if I had met you two 324 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: years ago. 325 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 326 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: No, definitely. When I was young, they tried me on 327 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: a medication that wasn't antidepressant because they thought I just 328 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: had depression, and that sent me into a manic episode, 329 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 4: which is what it does if you have bipolar and 330 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: so they quickly took me off that and put me 331 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 4: on a different medication, and that one made me feel numb, 332 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: but it was better than feeling too much, so I 333 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: don't think it was quite the right medication. It was lithium, 334 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: which has a lot of side effects, and it's something 335 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 4: I have to be on lifelong. I didn't really want 336 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 4: to stay on it forever, but it was my best 337 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: option at the time, and I was quite young. Yeah, 338 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: so I stayed on that. You have to get lots 339 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: of tests when you have it as well when you're 340 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: on lithium, so it wasn't ideal, but I stayed on 341 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 4: it for a couple of years, and then I came 342 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 4: off it. That was obviously a disaster. I think I 343 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: vaguely remember trying another medication. I'd been seeing psychologists and 344 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: psychiatrists throughout the years. But part of bipolo is, you know, 345 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: being inconsistent and erratic, and so I never really stuck 346 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: with a therapist long enough to make a difference. And then, yeah, 347 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 4: finding the right medication was life changing, but it was 348 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: trial and error. I went on the medication and I 349 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: got a body rash, like I got full head to 350 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: toe rash, and so they had to quickly take me 351 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: off that. But it was this medication I really wanted. 352 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: So we tried the non generic brand of it and 353 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: it turned out that was fine, So even though I 354 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: have to pay extra, it's worth it. And then they 355 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: added an antipsychotic, which is probably the most life changing 356 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: one because it just alongside a mood stabilizer. It just 357 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: took away all the anger and the edge of like 358 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 4: irritability and things that make parenting really difficult. 359 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: I can imagine, Oh my gosh, So talk to me 360 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: about the financial impact of that, because this sounds like 361 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: an expensive process with lots of different therapists and different 362 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: medication changes and now not being able to be on 363 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: the generic brand. 364 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: What is this costing you? 365 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 4: Thankfully, it doesn't cost me too much. I spend about 366 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 4: forty dollars of medication a month. I think that's not 367 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: too bad. I haven't actually calculated it. No, it's not 368 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: too bad. And I have at this new job, they 369 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: pay for private health insurance. 370 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh money ween. 371 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, massive money. 372 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: When massive money, ween, that is so good. 373 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I can get that covered, so I'm not 374 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: really out of pocket for it anymore. But therapists are 375 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: really expensive. Yes, I always had a mental health care plan, 376 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: so that covers a big portion of the cost, but 377 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 4: you're always left with a gap fee depending on the 378 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 4: therapist you see, and then there's long wait times, and 379 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: when you're having an episode, you already can't organize yourself 380 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: to even like see a therapists, let alone sit through 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: the waiting time and think, oh, you know, I actually 382 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: need this so and then by the time it comes around, 383 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 4: you don't have the money. So yeah, I don't know. 384 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: I somehow scraped by and managed to afford therapists, but 385 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: with the mental health care plan, I couldn't afford it 386 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: after the plan run out, which is yeah, when you 387 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: have an ongoing mental health issue, it runs out, and 388 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 4: then you just on your own again if you can't 389 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: afford it. 390 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, Oh my gosh, I feel like you're a 391 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: really different person to the person you probably were two 392 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: years ago. I want to know, what does the future 393 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: look like. You've gone through an insanely traumatic event and 394 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: you have two kids, You've got a four and a 395 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: seven year old. 396 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: What does the future look like? Where are we going? 397 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: How does that work? 398 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? I want to be able to keep affording my lifestyle. 399 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 4: So I've got the girls in gymnastics and swimming, and 400 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to give those things up because I 401 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 4: want them to have everything they need and more so, 402 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: I've got to figure out how to balance you know, 403 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: long term goals like buying a house with short term girls, 404 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 4: like making you know, the kids' lifestyles as good as 405 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: I can. So I'm hoping to keep increasing my income, 406 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 4: finishing my degree, and just keep pushing. 407 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: I love this. I love it so much. I want 408 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: to know, what do you think is your best money habit. 409 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 4: My best money habit, thanks to the beauty diploma, is 410 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 4: doing all my own beauty stuff at home, so that 411 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: saves me a lot. 412 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: Ten out of ten. 413 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: I mean, you can probably drop some tips for us 414 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: in the She's on the Money Facebook group because I 415 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: need to do more stuff at home, but we can 416 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: talk about that later. What do you think is your 417 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: biggest money win when it comes to doing stuff at home. 418 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 4: Probably nails and lash lifts. 419 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Lash lifts at home. 420 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: My sister's also a beauty therapist, so we kind of 421 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: do treatments on each other. 422 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: Oh, absolute money win. I'm actually quite envious. Let me 423 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: know when that's happening. I will pop over. On the 424 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: flip side of that, I want to know, what do 425 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: you think is your worst money habit? 426 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: It's grocery shopping without looking at the prices because as 427 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: a kid, my mom used to look at every single 428 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: price and have to calculate the total, and so now 429 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: I'm pretty frivolous with my grocery shopping and spend way 430 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: too much on groceries. 431 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a luxury you deserve to. 432 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 3: Have, though, my friend, Yeah, I hope. So that's not 433 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: the worst money habit I've ever heard of. Most definitely 434 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: like I feel like they're there are definitely worse, and 435 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: it sounds like you are absolutely killing it. We don't 436 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: have a lot of time left together, but at the 437 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: start of this episode, I asked you to give yourself 438 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: a money greade, and you said, look, I think I'm 439 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: a flat sea. And then you've gone on to tell 440 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: me I'm earning a really good income. I've increased my 441 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 3: income a whole heap of time since getting my job. 442 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: I'm investing. 443 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: I've got this big money goal of buying a house, 444 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: and you know what I actually am thinking about this. 445 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I'm not just buying 446 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: a house. I can actually service the loan and still 447 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: have my lifestyle. You don't have any personal date, you 448 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: have really good money habits, Like, do you still think 449 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: you're a se my friend? 450 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I have really high expectations. 451 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: That's fair. 452 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Comparison is also the devil, and I think without 453 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: comparing myself objectively, I think I'm doing really well considering everything. 454 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: I think i'd like to give myself a B plus 455 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 4: if I was being less judgmental on myself. 456 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: I think that's a good place to be. And I 457 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: think it's a good thing to recognize as well, because 458 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: I'm going to guarantee you money direst There are a 459 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: whole heap of people listening to this going absolutely not 460 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: she's an a, she's killing it. She's a queen. But 461 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: if you need to lift a little bit more of 462 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: that judgment from yourself, I think that's a really good 463 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: thing to work on as well. But oh my gosh, 464 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: what a story. I feel like you have been through 465 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: the absolute wars and I'm just so proud of where 466 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: you're at now, Like your girls are going to be 467 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: so proud of you and everything that you've achieved. And 468 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: I mean they probably can't comprehend any of those things 469 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: right now, but when they're older, I promise they are 470 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: going to tell everybody about how great their mum is. 471 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: I just know it. So thank you so so much 472 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 3: for joining us. 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