1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken the podcast. It is not afraid to 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: say exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kay 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: have identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: That is so fat thank you. 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: We are so excited to bring you the first episode 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: of the new year, and we are in your ears 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: on Monday for a change, because this year, we thought 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: what better way to start the week than with some 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: influencer goss exactly right. And I am back at work 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: starting today. I am going back to full time work 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: in the office, and you guys are working really hard 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: at Hula Media. So we thought, let's change things up 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, let's not put so much pressure on 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: ourselves on a Monday afternoon. So we now will be 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: bringing the episode to you on a Monday, which I 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: think is really exciting. Yeah, so what that means is 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: a lot of weekend recording, which is going to be interesting. Well, 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: we've already implemented some new rules for the new year, 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: which aren't going so well, so we at the moment 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: have a ten dollar fine for any raised voices before 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: the podcast. Amy's already on about fifty dollars at the moment, 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: so it's not working too well. But maybe we could 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: ask our community, what do you guys think of some 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: good finds that we could come up with for people misbehaving. Well, 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: I think fines sort of like a negative connotation. I 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: think they should be incentives. Now, Kate, you and I 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: had a pretty uneventful New Year's Eve. Well, I've actually 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: enjoyed New Year's Eve. So I had Sophie and Brandon 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: up at my house and Reese and I hosted for 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: the first time at our new house, which is really nice. 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: When I say hosted, we literally did a few platters 34 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: and got takeaway. But we kind of felt really old 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: because we started playing board games. There is the most 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: sensational game we played. Is it called Meme Maker? No, 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: It's called what Do You Mean? And a friend of 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Reese's gave it to him for his birthday and I 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: think it actually beats Cards against Humanity. Unfortunately, though, on 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Christmas Day, we made the mistake to play it with 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Reese's parents and his nanna. That was the most awkward 42 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: thing I've ever experienced. I believe Reese's mom didn't know 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: what the word quef mean and pronounce it quiff. Yeah, 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: she didn't know there was a card that has queef 45 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: on it. It was also one that had chubb and 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: she had to ask what those words were. So it 47 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: was quite obvious that she had played those cards when 48 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: those words came up on the cards and am Yours 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: was a bit more exciting than ours? 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: It was. 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I went to Victor Harbor for New Years and it's 52 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: so funny because I feel like Port Elliot, which is 53 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: near Victor Harbor, is literally South Australia's version of Byron Bay. 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: There was a lot going on there well. She Adelaide 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: had an hilarious post up about the massive queue at 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: the poor Elliott Bakery. Now they make the most delicious 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: pastries and bakery goods and I actually can't believe anyone 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: stood in this line. Because they have a bakery in 59 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: the town's bordering at plus at Gula and Victor Harle. 60 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: They've also got another one at Port Elliott. So we 61 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: just went across the road there's another Port Elliott bakery 62 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: and it was really really good. We'll moving on so 63 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: if you had a bit of a recommendation you wanted 64 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: to share with the listeners. Yeah. Well, Brandon and I 65 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: we've been hanging out for this one for a couple 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: of months now. It is a little bit left of 67 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: field for me because I'm usually into reality TV shows. 68 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: But this is a really great television show called Cobra 69 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: Kai Now. It is a spin off of the really 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: popular movie Karate Kid. Look, you've already lost me there, 71 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: to be honest, No, literally, it does not sound like 72 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: my type of thing. But for anyone else out there 73 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: who has watched it, you will know how good this 74 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: thing is. Now. Johnny Lawrence is one of the main characters. 75 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: He was the original villain child in the movie. He 76 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: is bloody hilarious. He's so politically incorrect. We binged the 77 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: whole show in two days, so we're so upset that 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: it's over now. But I'd love to know if there's 79 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: any other Cobra Kai fans in our little community group. 80 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: I can't watch it, it does. It sounds shit to me. 81 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So it is so it is so good. 82 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Like Brandon, I literally distraught that it is over. They 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: have not started filming yet. I think I've got a 84 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: recommendation to Trump. Yours is Dream Home Makeover on Netflix 85 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: as a second series. I am looking forward to watching 86 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: that tonight. Well, that just sounds boring to me. Really, 87 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: It's like an interior design thing, but they go to 88 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: different people's houses and do them up. I love it. Well, 89 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: Cobra Kai fans come out of the woodwork, keep me 90 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: up in our Facebook community, which has outspoken the podcast community, 91 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and we can show these two how good the show 92 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: actually is. We do not allow weakness in this dojo, 93 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: so you can leave your asthma and your peanut allergies 94 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: and all that other metup bullshit outside. Is that understood? 95 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: This week, boyfriend of Instagram Mitch Third shared to his 96 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: twenty four thousand followers that he had achieved one of 97 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: his biggest goals of twenty twenty, purchasing a luxury car. 98 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: While dream cars and influencers are a common occurrence on Instagram, 99 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: what's unusual about this post is the fact that the 100 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: twenty six year old promoted mortgage broker Finance your Way 101 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: now Kate. For those who don't know who is Mitch Third, well, 102 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Mitch is the boyfriend of influencer Talia Skaines. Now he 103 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: often appears in Talia's YouTube videos. He is also a 104 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: successful businessman in his own right. He has a reusable 105 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: drink bottle company called Third Fix, and with Talia, he's 106 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: also started his own clothing brand called Third Fix Collection, 107 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: as well as owning a villa in Bali. Now, I 108 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: kind of fell in love somewhat with Mitch's personality in 109 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: Tylia Skin's breast implant blog because he was a bloody 110 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: crack up on them. Oh my gosh, he was hilarious 111 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: on there. He is just so besotted with her, which 112 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: is actually really nice to see. Does he remind anyone 113 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: else of the character on Chrysally's Lunatics, Quintin. It's the 114 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: real estate agent from the Gold Coast. Yeah, well, he 115 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: does have that kind of a bit of a slimy 116 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: nature to him. 117 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: Oh don't. 118 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's got a slimy nature. I 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: think that's just every guy on the Gold Coast seems 120 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: like Quintin from Lunatics. Now, we should probably go into 121 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. So on Wednesday, he revealed that he 122 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: had purchased a Tesla Model X. Now that car costs 123 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: around one hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars. Well, that's 124 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: for the basic models. So I had to look on 125 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the website and yeah, that's the you know, starting out. 126 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: So when Mitch showed off his car, I feel like 127 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't the basic model. Now, for those who haven't 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: seen the photo, it is of Mitch leaning on his 129 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: new Tesla car and it has these kind of Batman 130 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: style doors that are up, so it's a very, very 131 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: flash car. He also did an Instagram story showing off 132 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: the car, and he said it was like driving around 133 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: in a helicopter because the ceiling's kind of all glass, 134 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: it's got a big TV screen, it's got white leather seats. 135 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: It was very bougie. I've got to say, I think 136 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: we should have a listen to what he actually said 137 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: because his insert story cracked me up. Let's go to 138 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: the audio. 139 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: I can't even believe I mines. Guys, this was one 140 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: of my biggest goals of twenty twenty. And on the 141 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: last day, second last day of twenty twenty, I see 142 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: the damn big TV. Wow, look at the white leather. 143 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: It's in sart your condition. I love. I'm in a 144 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: fucking helicopter. Two look at it goes all out there 145 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: well in love. Also, guys, a huge, huge shout out 146 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: to the team at Finance Your Way. I finally found 147 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: a Tesla that I wanted, and I didn't think I 148 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: was going to get it before the end of twenty twenty, 149 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: so I can't I honestly can't thank them enough. The 150 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: whole process was so easy, it was so smooth. They 151 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: do all car loans home loans, So if you're wanted 152 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: to go to twenty twenty one, you're after you during 153 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: car dream House. I'll leave that tag here. The team 154 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: there are fucking amazing. 155 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: I think the most interesting thing to come out of 156 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: the audio from that insta story is the fact that 157 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Mitch was promoting Finance Your Way and he was also 158 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: pushing his followers that were looking to purchase their own 159 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: dream car or dream home to use the company. What 160 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: did you guys think about that? Well, my first reaction 161 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: was that I find it really troubling that he is 162 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: using his influence to encourage young people to go out 163 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: and seek loans that they may not financially be able 164 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: to take. Well, there's not many young people out there 165 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: who would be the demographic that follow him that could 166 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: actually afford a one hundred and fifty seven thousand dollar car. Well, 167 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: my take on it was that I think that it's 168 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: realistic to actually say, hey, I've got this car and 169 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: I've got a car loan, because most people actually have 170 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: car loans. But I think what made me feel uncomfortable 171 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: about this whole post and this Insta story is the 172 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: fact that it is a luxury car. And if you 173 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: go on Finance Yourways Instagram page or they push his 174 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: luxury cars. And if you look at the demographic of 175 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: people that follow somebody like Mitch Third, they are all young. 176 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 1: They were all impressionable people who were looking at Mitch 177 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: because he does have this lifestyle that other people want. 178 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know, that's the bit that makes me 179 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: feel a bit uncomfortable. Yeah, it makes me feel a 180 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable because I feel like this company is 181 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: somewhat preying on young people who may not be financially 182 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: literate and be aware of the huge interest rate that 183 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: they are signing up to. Yeah, and particularly when they 184 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: seem to be targeting Gold Coast influencers. I mean Mitchell 185 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: Orville was using Financing Way as well. He posted this 186 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: picture of a really flashed Mercedes and it also featured 187 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: in his Christmas flog and he sort of was very 188 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: nonchalant about the purchase. He was like, oh, yeah, Chloe 189 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: was sick of me driving around in her car, so 190 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: I had to get one myself. And it's like, that 191 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: is a luxury car that's obviously worth hundreds of thousands 192 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: of dollars. It's very out of reach for normal people. Well, 193 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: on their Instagram account, they promoted that you can get 194 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: a luxury vehicle for just three hundred and twenty one 195 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: dollars a week. Now in saying that three hundred and 196 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: twenty one dollars a week a lot of money. That 197 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: was just one of their vehicles, though some are as 198 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: low as one hundred and twenty dollars. And what's interesting 199 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: is some of the cars that they're promoting it actually 200 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: the cars of influencers. So there's one influencer who is 201 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: selling his car on the page, which really confused me 202 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: because they're providing the finance, but then they're also promoting 203 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: the sale of the car. Well, what they do is 204 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: they're kind of like a middleman for lenders, so they 205 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of find the best finance for the car, So 206 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: I suppose that that sort of means they deal with 207 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: private sales and also sales through dealerships. Now I've got 208 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: to put it out there. Although I think it is 209 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: very irresponsible to be promoting lending to young people in 210 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: that way, it is a very clever business move. There 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: are not many loans companies who are using influencers to 212 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: promote their products directly to young people. I mean, if 213 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: you think about both Mitch's followings, they are young kids 214 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: who want to live that influencer lifestyle. So basically, these 215 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: men are putting up these posts saying, look, you can 216 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: drive this car simply by taking up this loan. What's 217 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: really interesting when you actually look into the business itself, 218 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: and this business is registered as a sole trader, so 219 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: it's owned by a woman called Karen Panner. And if 220 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: you have a look at their website, it is actually 221 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: quite evident that maybe this is a small scale business 222 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: because a lot of the images that are used are 223 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: from stock websites. So it's interesting that they seem to 224 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: be taking the business model where they're putting a lot 225 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: of their money into influencer marketing. And as you said, 226 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: so if it's something we haven't really seen before from 227 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: traditional businesses like finance businesses or businesses who were dealing 228 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: with such large loans. To me, I feel like these 229 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: influencerslack total credibility, but as you said, they're clearly going 230 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: for the demographic of young people. Well, as you touched on, 231 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: this does seem like it is quite a small operation, 232 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: but they are very clever because they're pretty much using 233 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors of influencers to make their business appear 234 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: a lot bigger than they are. They also have five 235 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: thousand followers on Instagram, which but then when you look 236 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: further into the analytics, their interactions are very very low. 237 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: So obviously the person who runs this company knows a 238 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: lot about Instagram and social media and is trying to 239 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: use that to grow their company. Yeah. Well, what's also 240 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: interesting is the business was started in twenty sixteen and 241 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: only last year did it register for GST, which means 242 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: it only started earning over seventy five thousand dollars a 243 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: year last year. It's really interesting to look at what 244 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: the influencer is actually getting for this collaboration. One would 245 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: assume perhaps they are getting the lowest interest rate for 246 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: their car or separately, they may just be getting a 247 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: large sum of money to promote this brand. Well, they 248 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: had to look on the Finance your Way website and 249 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: they actually have a friends with Benefit program which actually 250 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: encourages clients to refer friends. So if someone successfully refers 251 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: a friend and they take up alone, they get five 252 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: hundred or one thousand dollars cash. I don't know. That 253 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: just seems a bit dodgy to me. Yeah, well, it's 254 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: definitely an interesting way to run your business. As we've said, 255 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: this business is clearly targeting young people. So for young people, 256 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: they would see that incentive and be like great. For 257 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: those of us who were older, we would see that 258 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: messaging and say this business lacks credibility. I am not 259 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: going to invest my heart earned money into this. Yeah. 260 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: And in terms of what the influencers themselves got out 261 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: of promoting it, I do feel like seems a bit 262 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: odd that they're all sort of connected, like they seem 263 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: to be all connected, as Amy said to that influencer world. 264 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if they did receive some 265 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: sort of cash for promoting it, or some sort of 266 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: reduced payment, But I do think that they were legitimately 267 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: looking to buy a car. Three things, well, a lot 268 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: of I mean, obviously Amy and I work in PR 269 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: and marketing a lot of the time. If you are 270 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: seeking out influences, you will look to those who are 271 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: looking to make those sort of purchases. For example, I 272 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: did the PR for a major home loans company and 273 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: we looked for influencers. Well, not so much these type 274 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: of influencers, but we looked for people in the business 275 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: world who perhaps were looking to buy a house or 276 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: refinance a house. Well, looking at Mitch Third, it's actually 277 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: quite impressive what he's managed to achieve this year. He's 278 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: actually purchased a warehouse for his drink bottle company and 279 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: his clothing line. I mean, that's not a cheap thing 280 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: to do, so you would assume he'd have a loan 281 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: for the warehouse. He also owns a villa with Tarlia Skain. 282 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: So it just seems like quite interesting that people are 283 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: now willing to promote the fact that they're in debt. 284 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: But do you guys notice that it's only men that 285 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: are being approached to promote this company, Because I feel 286 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: like there's a we view influencers differently if it's a 287 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: male influencer who's promoting his luxury car, it's oh, he's successful, 288 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: he's got a successful business. But when it's a female, 289 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: I feel like people are a lot more judgmental. We've 290 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: seen it with the likes of Sarah's Day and also 291 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: even Georgie Stevenson who have had to kind of hide 292 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: their purchases of their dream cars. Like for Sarah's Day, 293 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: she said that she didn't do a video on it 294 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: because she didn't really want to bring attention to the 295 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: fact that she'd brought such an expensive car. I mean, 296 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: it did appear in some of her advertising for her 297 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: active wear, but yeah, it seemed quite secretive and as 298 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: if she was almost ashamed. Which well, even if you 299 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: look at somebody like Kayla Estinas, who we all know 300 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: is worth millions and millions of dollars, she does not 301 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: share that part of her life online. She's very reluctant 302 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: to have interviews at her house, she's reluctant to post 303 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: photos in her car. And it is crazy when you 304 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: think about it, that women have to be so careful 305 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: about the way that they promote their wealth, whereas men 306 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: it seems to be something that's celebrated online. Well, he's 307 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: promoting in a very different way to what we're used 308 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: to because he's actually putting out there, Hey, I haven't 309 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: actually purchased this right out, this is finance. But what 310 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: do you guys think about people who post photos of 311 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: purchases such as cars? Because when I saw he'd posted 312 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: a photo of the car itself, we had a you know, 313 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: there was a bit of a debate in our group 314 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: about oh, is that okay? Yeah, I definitely think that 315 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: the fact that the photo was taken outside his new warehouse, 316 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: he was kind of juxtapositioning his success with the car. Yeah, 317 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: but what's the difference between someone posting a picture of 318 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: a car they've purchased with a loan than someone posting 319 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: a picture of their new home that they've bought. Like 320 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: everyone knows people don't buy homes outright, and a lot 321 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: of the time people are using car loans to purchase cars. 322 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: That's the thing. I actually don't have a problem with 323 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: people sharing photos of their cars, because I feel like 324 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: that's a huge purchases. As you said, Kate's when you 325 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: share a photo of I've just bought my first house. 326 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: I remember proudly sharing a photo of my Master II 327 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: when I first bought it, and I would probably do 328 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: the same because it's such a huge achievement. But I 329 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: think sometimes we feel like it's a little bit oversaturated 330 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: some of the purchases, some influences. But then again, I'm 331 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: not trying to put down anyone who has financed their car, 332 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: But isn't that much of an achievement if you've purchased 333 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: this car and a whim that's got a huge interest 334 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: rate that you're going to potentially be paying off for 335 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: twenty years. Personally, I don't think that there should be 336 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: flexing involved in purchases like would. I tend to disagree. 337 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: I think if people have financed their car, if they've 338 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: saved up a huge deposit, then it's okay to share 339 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: it online. But you've just reminded me of a really 340 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: interesting point on Finance your Way, it does mention that 341 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: no deposit is required. Now, I don't think here we're 342 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: really arguing whether people can or cannot post pictures of 343 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: their new car. I think what we're arguing here is 344 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: whether it's irresponsible for people with influence and power to 345 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: be promoting financing cars, and whether it is acceptable to 346 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: do so to a very young and impressionable audience who 347 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: may may not have much of an understanding of finance themselves. 348 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I do agree with you so, and it seems like 349 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: there's more bad news coming because the Morrison government is 350 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: talking about winding back responsible lending laws. Yeah, it's a 351 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: very interesting move. In September, the government announced that they 352 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: are proposing to make it easier for people to get 353 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: loans with fewer checks. Now, that is in a bid 354 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: to recover the economy. Obviously at the moment it has 355 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: been very hard hit by the coronavirus. Now, the Treasurer 356 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: pitched it as a measure to cut red tape and 357 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: he said that it's in order to maintain the free 358 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: flow of credit through the economy and that it's very 359 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: vital to Australia's economic recovery plan. Now, the Act would 360 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: be changed to allow lenders to give out money without 361 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: thoroughly checking whether the borrower could afford to repay the loan. Now, 362 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: this is despite the Royal Banking Commission calling for the 363 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: provision to be left alone. This is really scary. It's 364 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of similar to what happened in America when everyone 365 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: was taking out massive home loans and then the GFC happened. 366 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: It's an interesting move by the government. Well, it's pretty 367 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: scary because new stats show that in October one in 368 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: ten ten people reported taking out a personal loan. Now, 369 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: that is up from May in which one in fifty 370 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: people took out a loan. Yeah, and that is of 371 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: course also off the back of a lot of people 372 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: dipping into their super during the lockdown. Now, a lot 373 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: of experts say that this is because young people are 374 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: seeking to refinance existing loans or they're taking out new 375 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: personal loans to get by as a result of either 376 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: losing their jobs during COVID or working less over that time. 377 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: And that's what's really scary about these influencer led marketing campaigns, 378 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: because while there may be some people that are genuinely 379 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: using these loans to get by, there are other young 380 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: people who may not have been affected by the pandemic 381 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: and are thinking, oh, well, I can easily access a 382 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: lot of money now like my favorite influences, perhaps if 383 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: I have their lifestyle, I'll be as successful as they are. 384 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: And in reality, that's not going to happen, because if 385 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: you can't afford to pay off the car, then you're 386 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: going to find yourself in serious trouble. And also I 387 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: can't I can imagine there would be a lot of 388 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: excess payments you are going to be making on a car, 389 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: particularly a luxury car. 390 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm hoping we rock her and she's all groggy and 391 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: she wants to be like pretty raw with all this stuff. 392 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: I was again, that's raw them coming out of a 393 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: fucking boob surgery. 394 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: So now let's get into the influencer rap. And with 395 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve there came a lot of people promoting 396 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: the year that had been, and a lot of people 397 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: talking about their New Year's resolutions and what they were 398 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: manifesting for twenty twenty one. Now, there was a lot 399 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: of positivity around. However, a couple of days later and 400 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: into the new year, it seemed cracks were already starting 401 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: to appear. Now Sadly, one of those people that was 402 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: posting about a potential breakdown was Tully Smythe Now she 403 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: shared a photo of herself lying on the couch with 404 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: her face covered with the caption Honestly, I don't think 405 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: I can handle much more. Christmas plans with the family 406 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: in Sydney canceled. Worst New Year's Eve of my life 407 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: Queensland holiday this week now also canceled absolutely at my 408 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: breaking point. She then later shared another photo of herself 409 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: with really puffy eyes, and it had been obvious that 410 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: she was crying. And this has been me for the 411 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: last three days. I've managed one shower, a reminder that 412 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: everybody is fighting a battle. You know, nothing about social 413 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: media is ninety percent smoke and mirrors. It's not always 414 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: rainbows and butterflies and perfectly edited holiday photos. Do not 415 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: compare your life to someone else's highlight reel. I love 416 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: that Tully shared that because I think it is really 417 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: good when influencers do share what they're honestly going through. 418 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: And we do see a lot of Tully's highlight reels, 419 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: but for her to be honest and open, I think 420 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Well, it was a real stark difference to 421 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: her Instagram feed, particularly the post she shared on New 422 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: Year's Eve, and she posted a professional photo of herself 423 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: looking really stunning in a silver ball gown, and she 424 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: wrote about how she's been really positive and she had 425 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: a lot of optimism and gratitude leading into the new year. 426 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: But obviously, you know, once things like it can take 427 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: such a small thing to ruin your week. But it's 428 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: just been a shit year round. I think everyone's been 429 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: so positive about the start of twenty twenty one, but 430 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: let's be honest, it's not just going to suddenly be magical, 431 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: but it is good to try and be a bit 432 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: positive leading into the new year. Well it's the same shit, 433 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: different year, you know what I mean. Like, I think 434 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: it's really brave of her to speak openly about it 435 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: and kind of almost called bullshit on her own Instagram feed. Definitely, yeah, 436 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: exactly right. But I really do hope the influencers start 437 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: putting this type of stuff on their feed because it's 438 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: very easy to click on people's Instagram feed and stories vanished, 439 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: and then people forget that this is what actually influencers 440 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: lives look like, and then they just keep looking at 441 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: the glossy photos. 442 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: Well. 443 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Another influencer who shared similar sentiments was Anastasia King's North. 444 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: She shared her highlights and then finished with a slide 445 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: of her crying with the caption, but do not be fooled. 446 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: In between of all of these incredible moments, I had 447 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: breakdown after breakdown and reach the lowest I've ever felt 448 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: for a period of three or so months I didn't 449 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: even want to get out of bed. I reach for 450 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: help and it was the best thing I ever did. 451 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: If you feel the same, please do so. Not everything 452 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: you see on social media is always as it seems, 453 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going to make a conscious effort to show 454 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty one. If I'm upset, I'll show you. 455 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: But please, if you feel like you were slipping into 456 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: a bad stage, reach out for help. Hand on my heart. 457 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: It saved my life and I'm leaving the year a 458 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: person that four months ago I didn't think I'd be 459 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: able to come for me. This was quite a shock. 460 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: Because I'm someone that watches Anastasia's YouTube video as a 461 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: bit of escapism. I find her the setting of her 462 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: family home really relaxing. She always seems to be out, 463 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, getting takeaway or doing something fun, and it 464 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: is really important for us to see what goes on 465 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I mean, Anastasia's one that gets heavily 466 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: bullied on forums like tatle life, so I can really 467 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: see where she's coming from. But she did also speak 468 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: out on one of her recent book bons about how 469 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: bullied she was after she went on TikTok, and I 470 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: feel like that's just a breeding ground of online trolls 471 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: on there. So it did make me feel so sad 472 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: for her because at the end of the day, she's 473 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: just an how old is she? USU twenty one year 474 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: old girl. I think the other issue was as well 475 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: as the bullying, is of course that they have been 476 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: in severe lockdown situations for most of the year, So 477 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: I think when you have a combination of bulling and lockdown, 478 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: this is going to be the end result. And I 479 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: think that so many young followers would be in the 480 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: similar position as her, So it is really great that 481 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: she is speaking about it now. Just moving on to 482 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: something a bit more upbeat. Former Bachelor star Brittany Hockley. 483 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: She's got a new secret love and everyone is so 484 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: excited about it. I was so excited when I saw this. 485 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: Brittany was doing that show Me a Photo of segment 486 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story and someone asked her to share 487 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: a photo of herself happy, and she shared this photo 488 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: of her kissing a guy and she kind of like 489 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: crossed out his face so we couldn't see exactly who 490 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: it was and captioned it, have a great New Year's 491 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Eve everyone. What I found hilarious was that the identifying 492 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: feature was that he had a sock ten and the 493 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: fact that they are actually following each other on Instagram. 494 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: What great detective work from Life on Cut fans. That's incredible. Now, 495 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: I feel like the only person who is going to 496 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: be quite unhappy about this flourishing romance is Laura Burn 497 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: because she is loving Britney's dating stories for their podcast. Oh, 498 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: I think Laura will be happy. Deep down, everyone is 499 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: like rooting for britt to find a boyfriend. Yeah. Well, 500 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm just looking forward to when lifehung Cut comes back 501 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: because I feel like, surely Brittany's going to reveal all 502 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: the goss. It's really funny though, because on the last 503 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: episode of Life Uncut, she was talking about how she 504 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: had met some guy out in town and it actually 505 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: ended up that he had a girlfriend and he was 506 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: a real dirt bag. So this must have happened really quickly. Well, 507 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of her stories probably are 508 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: from a while ago, but she's just saying that they're 509 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: recent stories. Now let's get on too, chloe'zette. Now, she 510 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: shared a candid post about her relationship with her body. Now, 511 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: I've never actually heard her speaking about her relationship with 512 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: her body and food. You know, she has a YouTube channel, 513 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like she kind of keeps that a 514 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: bit like the Highlights real. Also, she's got an active 515 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: where brand, and fitness is a big part of her 516 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: personal brand. So it was really interesting to hear the 517 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: fact that she actually doesn't really have a great relationship 518 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: with food. That she spoke about how she punished herself 519 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: if she ate badly, that she did a lot of 520 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: binge eating and then would have to run on the 521 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: treadmill for a long time. But the good news is 522 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: now that she said, since she's had her baby, Artie, 523 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: that she's got a really great relationship back with her 524 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: body and food. Well, I think it's a good brand 525 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: move for Chloe because we've seen Mitch do it. They've 526 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: been so honest and open about past issues they've had, 527 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: either with drugs, and now Chloe's talking about her body 528 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: and I feel like everyone's loving the honesty. Yeah. I mean, 529 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that she's doing it because it's on trend, 530 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: but it does seem on trend to be speaking about 531 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: your issues and not just posting, you know, glamorous Bakhini pictures, 532 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: moving on to Sydney based influencer Sammy Robinson. Now, I 533 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: was really surprised to see that her and her boyfriend 534 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Nick had traveled to Byron Bay on Sunday. Now, they 535 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: haven't actually explained what they're doing in Byron Bay, but 536 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: they did mention that they were going to be joined 537 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: by some friends. Now, Sammy went onto her Instagram story 538 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: when she arrived in Byron Bay, and I assumed they 539 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: would be saying, you know, we're taking COVID very seriously 540 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: and we are allowed to travel because of this reason. 541 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: There's no acknowledgment about the fact that they're not meant 542 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: to be traveling at this So all the influencers are 543 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: already fleeing Sydney again to Byron Bay. Yeah, exactly right. 544 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: But it's really troubling because while it's not mandatory that 545 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: you can't travel, the government have advised not to travel, 546 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: and particularly to regional areas. It's a really odd one 547 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: to me, especially because there have been rules in place 548 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: on the weekend about face masks being mandatory and the 549 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: number of people allowed to gather in certain settings being limited. 550 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: It just seems like a really odd thing to be doing. 551 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: I think it's important to point out that Sammy Robinson 552 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: isn't actually breaking any government rules. I mean, she is 553 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: ignoring government's advice not to travel. To me, it's just 554 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: really tone death, particularly when the Northern Beaches have a 555 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: stay at home direction placed on them and travel restrictions, 556 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: and for me, Sammy was in the Northern Beaches. She 557 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: often travels to her parents' holiday house and the Northern 558 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: Beaches and seem to be traveling back and forth to 559 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: her parents' house and her own house. I don't know, 560 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: it just seems like there's a lot of traveling going 561 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: on that's really not necessary. Look, I wouldn't be happy 562 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: if I was in Byron Bay, if I was a 563 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: Byron Bay resident, I'd be pretty pissed off with people 564 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: coming in from Sydney. But you know what, she's not 565 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: breaking the rules. She hasn't broken any rules yet. I 566 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: mean the rules keep changing. Who knows what will happen 567 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: to me. At least she's not going into state. I 568 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: mean at least she's staying in New South Wales. Yeah, 569 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: but she's going regionally into New South Wales when she's 570 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 1: been in Greater Sydney. I think the other thing that 571 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: probably annoys me more is the fact that just address 572 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: the issue as well. You know, that's something that's quite 573 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: interesting for people to see the reality of traveling during 574 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: a pandemic. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna copy a lot 575 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: less if you're just open about it, if you say, hey, guys, 576 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, of course we 577 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: can travel during this because we are traveling in New 578 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: South Wales. Just acknowledge it. Well. I think the thing 579 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: that I found most irritating about this whole influence is 580 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: going on holiday, is they keep acting like, oh, well, 581 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: we should be allowed to go. It's so unfair that 582 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: we can't go on holiday. It's like you are the 583 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: people that travel the most out of anyone you like. 584 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Literally they go to you know, twenty different destinations normally 585 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: in a year, and they're sort of winging about not 586 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: being able to travel overseas this year. Most normal people 587 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: don't travel overseas every year or multiple times every year, 588 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: so the fact that they haven't been able to travel 589 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: for maybe a year, suck it up. 590 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: Well. 591 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Lastly, and so well, lastly, just to end on some 592 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: amazing news, UK influencer l Darby has announced she and 593 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: her fiance Connor Swift are expecting a baby. This shocked 594 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: me so much. Really, I couldn't believe it. I was 595 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: so surprised. I mean, it was her twenty fifth birthday recently, 596 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: they've recently got engaged. We probably shouldn't surprise me so much, 597 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 1: but I just think it's such lovely news for them, 598 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: particularly with the fact that she's lost her mum recently. 599 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: They're in the midst of a pandemic, so this is 600 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: some beautiful news to come out of all of that. Well, 601 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: they're in the midst of a lockdown in the UK. Sorry, 602 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: that's what I mean, a lockdown. 603 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: Well. 604 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: I found her post announcing the pregnancy on an Instagram 605 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: feed very touching. She really went into how she felt 606 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: like the baby was connected to her mother who had 607 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: passed away, and I actually felt quite emotional reading it, 608 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: particularly because before the New year, Ellie shared her kind 609 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: of year in photos on her Instagram story and I 610 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 1: didn't realize that her mum had only passed away on 611 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: Mother's Day in the UK, which was I think it 612 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: was in March. And I just felt so emotional for 613 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: her because she's had such a tough year. Her mom 614 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: passed away and then locked out and happened for her. 615 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: So it's really great that she's had some positive news 616 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: come out of twenty twenty. What did you guys think 617 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: of the photo announcing that they were having a baby, 618 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Because I had a chuckle. We put the photo in 619 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: our group and a few people were commenting about how 620 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: Connor had his top off in the photo. Do you 621 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: guys think that that's appropriate? Because I didn't. I didn't 622 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: expect any less from them. They always have these outrageous 623 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: epic photos. I mean he was looking quite buff in 624 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: the photo. I realized he was that muscle. Yeah. Well 625 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: all I could think was, can you imagine that baby 626 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: when they're eighteen looking at that photo and seeing your 627 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: dad with his top off and the announcement. She well, 628 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: it's not like she was showing all the skin too. 629 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was quite tasteful. It was a beautiful photo. 630 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it was how you and Reese would 631 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: announce you were having a child. It's tasteful for influences. 632 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: It was it was appropriate for them, but say, you know, 633 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: you know Jenny next door was posting that you wouldn't 634 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: expect Well, that's what I just said. It's appropriate for influences, 635 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: but I don't imagine someone normal would be posting that, 636 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: particularly considering it was taken in a professional studio. I'd 637 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: love to see how people in our community announce their 638 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: baby news. I'd love to see some if you've done 639 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: it with a photo or what your caption was. To 640 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: be fair, though, el Darby did post some very raw 641 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: photos of herself finding out that she was pregnant, and 642 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: she's always make up free on her YouTube channel, so 643 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think go on good on her 644 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: for doing it. Now that's probably all we have time for. 645 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: We've got out of this with only a few finds 646 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: under our belt. Thank you so much for joining us 647 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: for today's episode and our first one back for the 648 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: new year. 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