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Speaker 1: Well, the much anticipated US election debate was held yesterday morning.

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Speaker 1: Channel d US correspondent Jonathan Cursley. It's a lot closer

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Speaker 1: to it there than us. He's with us again. Good morning, Jonathan.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, busy, Lisa, Good morning, you're both. Wow. We one

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Speaker 2: day debate that was last night? Wow?

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Speaker 3: Indeed, Yeah, where do we start unpacking?

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Speaker 2: Jonathan? Well, it was Kamla Harris's night. Essentially, she came

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Speaker 2: onto the stage to have a lot to prove. There

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Speaker 2: were poles saying that voters wanted to know more about her,

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Speaker 2: and what she did was essentially take the fight to

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump inside that convention center of the debate venue

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, a crucial state in Pennsylvania for voters, and

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Speaker 2: it was very much Kamla Harris's night. She started by

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Speaker 2: getting into his space, introducing herself, shaking his hand, and then,

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Speaker 2: bit by bit by bit over the course of the

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Speaker 2: one hundred minutes or so that the debate lasted, she

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Speaker 2: just had to blow off the blows. Clear she had

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Speaker 2: a strategy to try and land personal minds against Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and see if he would take debate. And time

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Speaker 2: after time after time, Donald Trump found himself talking about

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Speaker 2: himself rather than the issues that matter to voters, issues

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Speaker 2: like border control, issues like cost of living. So very

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Speaker 2: much was Kamala Harris's night, and she walked away in

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Speaker 2: many judging by many of the indicators that are coming

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Speaker 2: out as the clear victor of the debate. Donald Trump, though,

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Speaker 2: was doing his very best to try and spin it

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Speaker 2: to his own advantage. My colleague Alison Petrowski was inside

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Speaker 2: the spin room not too far from that debate venue

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Speaker 2: and actually spoke to Donald Trump. Asked him how he

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Speaker 2: rated his performance out of ten, and he said almost ten.

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Speaker 2: He's done so far, so he's putting his own spin

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Speaker 2: on it, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: She was clearly very well prepared, as he told us yesterday,

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Speaker 1: She'd had, you know, a lot of meetings with people

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Speaker 1: who knew what to expect in these situations, were Donald

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. The conspiracies have started though, apparently that her

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Speaker 1: tiffany earrings were earpieces and she was being fed lines.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, there were all sorts of conspiracy theories that

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Speaker 2: have been pushed around, and all sorts of attack lines

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Speaker 2: from Republicans saying she was the question that the moderators

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Speaker 2: were biased. What the moderators actually did was fact check

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump repeatedly time and time again when he raised

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Speaker 2: claims about abortion laws and claiming that babies born after

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Speaker 2: nine months were being killed. There is no law in

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Speaker 2: the United States that allows that. He raised conspiracy theories

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Speaker 2: about illegal immigrants eating the pets of American households, which

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Speaker 2: is one of the most extraordinary moments in the entire debate.

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Speaker 2: He suggested that they were eating the dogs, they were

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Speaker 2: eating the cats. It was the moment you could see

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Speaker 2: that this really was unraveling for him, and he was

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Speaker 2: trying to find some sort of ground in order to

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Speaker 2: leverage himself. But he just simply didn't find his a game.

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Speaker 2: But the Democrats, well then they got some star support

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Speaker 2: of their own game their way through Taylor Swift. A

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Speaker 2: huge endorsement from her for Kamala Harris as she described

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Speaker 2: herself as a childless cat lady, referring to a comment

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Speaker 2: made by Donald Trump's running mate JD. Vance. So this

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Speaker 2: has all become what we expect of it in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four in this presidential election campaign. Now will there

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Speaker 2: be another debate? Well, Kamala Harris says that she wants one.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump says only loses one another debate playing up

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Speaker 2: next time. Look, the problem for Donald Trump though, is

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Speaker 2: if he refuses the debate, he's going to look weak.

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Speaker 2: And that is the biggest concern for them that he

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Speaker 2: does not want to look weak. He never wants to

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Speaker 2: look weak. But there is still plenty of time for

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Speaker 2: this to play out. So the Democrats, well they had

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Speaker 2: a good night last night, will need to be wary.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to get too far ahead of themselves.

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Speaker 2: They'll be all too weary of the lessons of twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen and Hillary Clinton. There's still eight weeks in this

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Speaker 2: campaign to play out. There's plenty of times things to

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Speaker 2: go either way, and the polls are still incredibly tight.

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Speaker 2: But needless to say, it was a better performance from

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris last night and Joe Biden just over a

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Speaker 2: couple of months or so. And now I suppose she

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Speaker 3: I bet she does. She also had to show some

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Speaker 3: restraint because when the dogs and cats and pets line

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Speaker 3: came out, she did laugh.

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Speaker 1: She was amused, sat back a little louder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, But Trumpanese people have accuser of a moniacal

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Speaker 3: laugh and crazy and all that kind of stuff. She

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Speaker 3: was very restrained and quite classy. I think that was

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Speaker 3: that was a key.

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Speaker 2: You saw a sort of rock her head back and

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Speaker 2: shake her head saying, you know, this is unbelievable. One

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Speaker 2: of the big rules they had last night was that

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Speaker 2: the microphone would be turned off while the other person

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Speaker 2: was speaking. I think from a strategy perspective, what was

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Speaker 2: interesting is Kamala Harrison has clearly been told you will

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Speaker 2: always be on camera, use your body language while your

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Speaker 2: microphone is off, and that's exactly what she did. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there was still mutterings and murmuring moments when both Mike's

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Speaker 2: were open, and we got a little bit of tet

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Speaker 2: our tet from both the presidential candidates. But this debate

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Speaker 2: is now condusted. It was originally Donald Trump's after debate one,

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Speaker 2: Debate two goes to Kamala Harris, and now the question

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Speaker 2: on for Debate three, and then for American voters, the

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Speaker 2: question really is now the undecided voters, how much did

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Speaker 2: last night move the needle for them? If it moved

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Speaker 2: it enough, then maybe Kamala Harris is on the right

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Speaker 2: track to election victory. But as I said, this race

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Speaker 2: is far.

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Speaker 1: From one and done well. October the first, tim Waltz

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Speaker 1: and JD. Vance will have their debates, so that's going

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Speaker 1: to be interesting to see what happens there. I have

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Speaker 1: seen Hillbilly Elergy, I didn't I didn't know a little

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Speaker 1: bit about JD. E. Vance. I didn't make the connection

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Speaker 1: straight away, but then you know so. But he seems

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Speaker 1: to have shifted a little from even Ron Howard the

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Speaker 1: other day was saying, you've changed.

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Speaker 3: Ron Howard, who made the movie.

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Speaker 2: I think JD. Evans is finding himself as Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: running mate, and that ultimately last night meant he had

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Speaker 2: to defend Donald Trump, and he had to defend himself.

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Speaker 2: So look, vice presidential debates, debate, who's the needle much

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Speaker 2: for voters? No? Probably not. It's going to be good entertainment.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be important for those who value the

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Speaker 2: vice presidential tickets. But really, ultimately what it comes down

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Speaker 2: to is, while as important as the role of vice

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Speaker 2: president is, those vice presidential debates tend not to move

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Speaker 2: things as much in the mind of voters. So the

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Speaker 2: attention will be on off the one, it will be

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Speaker 2: on that debate, on that date. But then there are

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Speaker 2: going to be plenty of uys watching to see do

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Kamala Harris find a way to agree

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Speaker 2: to terms for a third one? And if so, what

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Speaker 2: territory is it going to be on Fox News? On

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's terrain? Is it going to be on NBC News?

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Speaker 2: Is it going to be another car on the platform?

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Speaker 2: So time will play this thing out. But while while

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has plenty of recent smile after last night,

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Speaker 2: looks the job is not done. This election is going

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Speaker 2: to be fought in just a handful of states and

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Speaker 2: a very very small number of voters. That's how tight

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Speaker 2: things are. And just to give you an idea, guys,

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Speaker 2: of how things are placed in twenty twenty, Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: was a lot further ahead in the polls at this

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Speaker 2: stage than what Kamala Harris. You might see in a

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Speaker 2: couple of states, She's ahead by a point or two.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden was a lot further ahead four years ago,

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Speaker 2: So they will have that in the back of their

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Speaker 2: minds because Joe Biden scraped over the line in the end,

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Speaker 2: the polls underestimated Donald Trump's support. So look, there's plenty

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Speaker 2: more in this to play out. Tamala Harris Walls tickets

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Speaker 2: certainly has the momentum striving forward.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, it will continue to be in asten

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Speaker 1: it's not fascinating. Thank you, Jonathan. We will stay in touch.

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Speaker 2: We will, Jonathan, always good to talk to you in

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Speaker 2: a listeners please, thank you so much