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Speaker 1: Get a I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to.

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Speaker 2: Inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: You know, I always get nervous doing intros when I

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Speaker 1: have a friend on the pod. It usually takes me

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Speaker 1: about five goes to get it right. So here goes

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Speaker 1: straight out of the gate. Let's see if I can

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Speaker 1: get this one. I put too much pressure on myself

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Speaker 1: to see. So today's guest is a dear friend and

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Speaker 1: has become such a huge supporter of my life behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes and checks in with me all the time,

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Speaker 1: and so grateful for your friendship.

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Speaker 2: The guest is Laura Pike.

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Speaker 1: Now, Laura Pike is a wonderful coach I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say healer as well actor too. She's got a company

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Speaker 1: called Flourish Lane, and she works with all different types

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Speaker 1: of creatives about helping them move and shift energy and

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Speaker 1: face blocks. And I've personally worked with her as well.

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Speaker 1: I've done a quantum clearing with her. We've done just

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Speaker 1: energetic shifts work together as well around when I was

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Speaker 1: doing IVF.

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Speaker 2: Also just in being in LA and being like, ah,

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Speaker 2: this is really hard.

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Speaker 1: Laura has been such a huge support for me, and

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Speaker 1: she's worked with so many different actors, directors, writers, producers.

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Speaker 1: She's a force, very very humble, as you'll hear, and

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Speaker 1: also can I say, very fun.

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Speaker 2: Funny gal.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you love today's chat. If you're a creative,

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Speaker 1: this one is for you. But also if you're into

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Speaker 1: anything around energetic clearing and you know, kind of like

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Speaker 1: getting out of your own way and facing yourself and

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Speaker 1: doing the work. This is a really really cool episode.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know more about Laura, it'll obviously

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Speaker 1: all be in the show notes, but check out Flourish Lane.

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Speaker 1: She's really really cool, does so much stuff around emotional clearing.

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Speaker 1: She does this thing called the spiral. She works on strengths.

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Speaker 1: She's very nurturing, gentle and empowering, and it's just really

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Speaker 1: cool to work with that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: See, I get I put too much, but I get

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Speaker 1: too nervous when I do intros for friends.

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Speaker 2: But Laura, I think You're wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see what comes next for you

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Speaker 1: and to you the listener. Thank you for listening, and

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Speaker 1: I hope you love this chat with the incredible Laura Pike.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited that I've already hit record just since

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Speaker 1: he said that that was perfect.

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Speaker 2: Laura Pipe.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited to have you on this pod

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Speaker 1: for many a reason. Well, I think because I think

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Speaker 1: what you do in life, in this beautiful time where

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Speaker 1: you and I have been lucky enough to meet, You

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Speaker 1: help creatives and artists and actors, and you work on

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Speaker 1: emotional clearing and you work on working through I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I want to use word like hang ups,

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Speaker 1: but like there's so much stuff that even I can

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Speaker 1: talk about from personal experience that I'm like, I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to talk about self doubt and rejection with you.

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Speaker 1: And so yes, first of all, before I rab it on,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to have you here on the Potter Rooney.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. We've been talking about it. We have a

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Speaker 2: little bit of arm twisted it has, but we're here.

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Speaker 2: I could have put it off longer, but I didn't

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Speaker 2: got you, got you on the pod.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we talk about all the amazing stuff that

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Speaker 1: you do, and I want to call it your like

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Speaker 1: healing modality.

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Speaker 2: Can I call it that? Please? Before all of that,

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Speaker 2: you were an actor, my friend and action.

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Speaker 1: Yeah fifteen years Yeah you are, Yes, you are. And

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Speaker 1: I actually have been on your I've been listening to

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Speaker 1: your voice over reels last night.

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Speaker 2: You are and NIDER graduate. Yes, how was training at NIDER?

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Speaker 2: It was pretty epic? It was. It was well. First

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Speaker 2: of all, thank you for having me. It's a bloody

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Speaker 2: honor to be here. I'm so so grateful to be here.

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Speaker 1: We've been chit chatting for the last twenty we have.

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Speaker 2: NIDER. Okay. So I went there in two thousand and

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Speaker 2: four and graduated in two thousand and six. And when

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Speaker 2: I look back, I was a baby, like really like

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Speaker 2: not saying that all twenty year olds are babies, but

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Speaker 2: for me, I was young. I was definitely And I

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Speaker 2: auditioned for NIDER when I first left school. Grew up

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Speaker 2: the place I want to go to because I did

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Speaker 1: It's in Australia. NIDER is one of the holy grails

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Speaker 2: back then, could not find a better institute to learn

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Speaker 2: the craft of acting and to learn the skills and

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Speaker 2: the techniques required to be a good actor. But it

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Speaker 2: was all based in theater. And so when you think

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Speaker 2: about acting at its core, voice, theater, expression, movement, dance,

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Speaker 2: people that I went to NIDER with they've gone on

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Speaker 2: to do phenomenal things. But for me, in terms of theater,

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Speaker 2: the best shows that I did collaborating with the best

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Speaker 1: That makes total sense though if you think about the

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Speaker 1: people that have also come out of NIDER huge. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember, and I know I'm throwing a spanner at

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Speaker 1: a do you remember your audition process?

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Speaker 1: Did they ask you a bit? I've auditioned a few

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Speaker 1: ask you to be an animal? At one of the auditions, No, mate,

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Speaker 2: Was it in improvisation or something that you had to do?

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Speaker 2: I was like, how do you remember? So I did it?

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Speaker 2: Not the crock I did em.

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Speaker 1: You at why I didn't performing ups at Monash and

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Speaker 1: same thing. You had to morph but had to go

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I remember Larry Moss was actually sharing that he

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Speaker 2: Jim Carrey and he's talking about Jim Carrey. And in

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Speaker 2: he's playing a detective as venturer. No, it was like drama. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so Larry said, well, you know, Jim, let's go

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Speaker 2: And this is Larry you know, at his age and

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Speaker 1: was incredible, beautiful, beautiful book, beautiful everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's one of the most incredible scripts and beautiful

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Speaker 2: Living in Sydney at the time. Beautiful Jackie Diamond one

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Speaker 2: of my acting teachers. And did she teach you? She

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Speaker 2: taught me at Sixteenth Street when I would do drop

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Speaker 2: a female understudy, but to understudy each side. Like for

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Speaker 2: twenty two characters.

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Speaker 2: an understudy, and I think you should do it. But

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Speaker 2: it's in la and you have to understudy all the characters.

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Speaker 2: And anyway, I sent through a self test and had

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Speaker 2: Larry said, yeah, come over and do it. So it

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Speaker 1: What was it that made you realize the fun had

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Speaker 1: But even knowing that about yourself is so powerful, and

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Speaker 2: And you know this, this understanding and awareness that I

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Speaker 2: Or if you still feel that thing bubbling inside that's

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Speaker 1: where it's like I'm an actor. Yeah, then this weird

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Speaker 1: kind of perfection thing can creep in right.

437
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Speaker 2: Well, you say I'm an actor, and you hook in

438
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: and identify with that, you limit yourself to everything else

439
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: you can be.

440
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Speaker 1: Do you know you'll love this. I was in an

441
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Speaker 1: acting class and a teacher to me mid scene and goes, stop, Lola,

442
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: you're an entertainer. And I was like, oh, that's a compliment,

443
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: and that it was not meant as a compliment. I

444
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: can guarantee it was meant like you're putting on a

445
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: bit of a show here, as opposed to like I

446
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: was a bit I got up and said.

447
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm a bit nervous.

448
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: Guys like, and I was just like, to me, that

449
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: was sharing vulnerably where I was at. But to the

450
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: teacher was not happy about it and straightaway called me out,

451
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: was like, we're here to be artists and actors, not entertainers.

452
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: And I was like, mate, I want I want to

453
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Speaker 1: be an entertainer. I'm happy to be here all capacity.

454
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: But it wasn't.

455
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Speaker 1: And it was really interesting that like drum schools are

456
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: amazing by the way, I love them, but sometimes I

457
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: think if I bought into that belief system, then it

458
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Speaker 1: may have been problematic for me.

459
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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. And when we like circle back

460
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Speaker 2: to the age piece, and I'm purely speaking for me.

461
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: I was so immature and I was really naive and

462
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: I came into it and I look back and I

463
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: was a naughty student. I was naughty. I wanted to

464
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: have fun. I wanted to be the class clown, you know.

465
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Speaker 2: And I would be reprimanded for that, and rightly so,

466
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: because I wasn't taking it in the seriously in the

467
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: way that I should have. If I was to go

468
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 2: to night and now, oh my god, what an experience,

469
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: because I would have seen the gifts. Not that I

470
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: didn't see the gifts then, but I was also figuring

471
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Speaker 2: out who I was. You're twenty years old, mate, and

472
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Speaker 2: I totally agree with what you said that when you're

473
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Speaker 2: in that impressionable stage and if you were anything like

474
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: me and you know, wanting to also enjoy and play

475
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: and have fun and everything, which is a part of it,

476
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 2: but not taking it as seriously and seeing the gifts

477
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Speaker 2: in what you are offered there. Hearing comments like that

478
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: can be huge, could appbsolutely make or break it. And

479
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: then when you hook into that and identify with that, yeah, yeah,

480
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: so interesting.

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Speaker 1: And I like how you mentioned sometimes when it feels

482
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: like oh, not another no, or you know you're in

483
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: that phase like just changing the channel. It doesn't even

484
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: mean that you're not an actor anymore or.

485
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: Anything like that.

486
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Like when I was in LA, I was like, oh,

487
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: done so much this one style of acting. I'm like,

488
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: I need to mix it up, like I need it

489
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: like and I fell in love with something I never

490
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: expected to fall in love with, which was voice training

491
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: the characters and I was playing like eight year old

492
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: kids and I was like oh, and I was like

493
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I can do it, and they're like,

494
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: just try speed up, like they told me all these

495
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: little magic tricks make your boys change. And I was like, ah,

496
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: I was like, how have I just fallen in love

497
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: with this thing at thirty six?

498
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

499
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Yes? And I think that that's what's really cool if

500
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: you just like it doesn't mean you're not an act.

501
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: You could just be building this whole new skill that's

502
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: only going to make you a better actor, absolutely and

503
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: look at you, you build a fanbam, that's right. And

504
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: so like I even know, like recently having gone through

505
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: IVF stuff, I know that that's going to affect my

506
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: acting because I now have this these little bambinos on

507
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: ice cycle them that now I have this like connection

508
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: to that means something to me that are probably going

509
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: to change the way if I play a mother in

510
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: a scene or you know what I mean, I think

511
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: and your life experience.

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00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Completely now versus then like it just oh absolutely so

513
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: so different and that lived experience, you know, but yeah,

514
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: we can only have that with time. And you know,

515
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: I think that it does. You know when I reflect

516
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: on a lot of the clients that I have, for example,

517
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: that could come in to me like if we go

518
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: to that point of I want to give up and

519
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: this is too hard now, and they can clear some

520
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: of those into fear serrences And that's a lot of

521
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: the work that I do clear those limiting beliefs. Really

522
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: have an awareness and an understanding of what is it

523
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: that's making them believe that they can't do it anymore,

524
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: and we can clear some of it. Oh my god.

525
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: Some of my clients have then come out the other

526
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: side of it and not only continued to follow their dreams,

527
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: but they've now got shows that they've written, picked up

528
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: funded there you know, other ones that are now directing

529
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: their first film with a list Australian celebrities attached to

530
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: it like massive, massive things, how cool? You know potential

531
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: you know development with sun Dance and realized, oh my god,

532
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm actually a writer as well. I'm a writer and

533
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: an actor and I really love producing, and I'm also

534
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: a mum and whatever it is that they end up

535
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: coming to how cool. Right, So we start to take

536
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: those blinkers off and actually see these infinite possibilities of

537
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: what we could doing.

538
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: I love it, which brings me to flourish line. Yes,

539
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: so this is your I keep calling it your baby.

540
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: It's my baby, Yes, one of your baby.

541
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: Yes it is?

542
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: It designed so that and you've kind of just touched

543
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: on it now so that like creatives actors, I kick

544
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: boss Matt's done a group session with you as well,

545
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: and Matt's a composer and producer, so not in the

546
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: acting world at all, but such a creative that took

547
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: so much from that? Is it design so that people

548
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: that have these creative careers and ambitions can come to

549
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: potentially do some kind of emotional clearing work on if

550
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: there is a blockage or a limiting belief system, work.

551
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: On that with you.

552
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: And then do you and I know I know the

553
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: answer to this, but for the listener, do you kind

554
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: of like, I don't know how to work articulate this properly,

555
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: but kind of like work through it, right because we

556
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: work through all the sessions I've done with your works

557
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: with and then I feel like you create this beautiful

558
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: space to then rebuild.

559
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Thank you? Am I articulating that kind of Okay? I

560
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: love that. I love that it depends on the individual.

561
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: So I work with and I think you know on

562
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: my website for example, it's really tailored to act as

563
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: creatives and artists because that is a lot of the

564
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: clientele that I work with because that's what I know.

565
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: But I also work with a lot of mums, a

566
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: lot of women that are going through you know, pregnancy

567
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: things or IVF for needing emotional support in that. And

568
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: I work with a lot of business owners or people

569
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: that are wanting to start a business but believe that

570
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: they can't. And when I take a step backwards, really

571
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: who gets magnetized and drawn to me is from my

572
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: lived experience of course. So I am a mum, I

573
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: am an actor, I started a business, I have a business,

574
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: yeah you know, and so things that I've gone through

575
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: I can then support and helping the best way possible.

576
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: I hope these people to become their best versions of

577
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: themselves and follow their dreams. And I think, you know,

578
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: I've been reflecting on what it is that I do,

579
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: like what do I help people with? And it comes

580
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: from the feedback from clients and the kind of resounding

581
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: themes I guess is people start to become really kind

582
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: to themselves when they were the worse critics. Oh yeah, there's.

583
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: Something very nurturing and nourishing about you and your sessions.

584
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm like a bit of a personal development junkie.

585
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: Like I love.

586
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, hypno, so like I thoroughly loved your sessions. But

587
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: the overarching feeling that I got was just like it's

588
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: like I felt nourish, but I felt very safe to

589
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: be held. Can we get a little bit specific with

590
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: what you offer because it's positive psychology, n f T, NLP,

591
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: NLP and crypto.

592
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm doing a bit of bit coin.

593
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: I'm literally you look NFT here, I read n LP

594
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: out here and then and then I've read e l P,

595
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: which obviously is not is it e e f T,

596
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: which is ome.

597
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: So NLP I wish I did a bit of n

598
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: FT that would be great, would probably.

599
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: Be totally loaded. That's amazing. So NLP is neurolinguistic programming

600
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: and e f T is emotional freedom technique or tapping. Right,

601
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: people would probably know it as tapping and positive psychology.

602
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: And I'm also a strengths development specialist, so I have

603
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: these different modalities that I use. And the spiral, So

604
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: the spiral is the deep dive journey that people go

605
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: on with me, and I've tailored it using all of

606
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: my skills specific for what I offer in Flourish Lane.

607
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: So it really it's it's almost like I imagine that

608
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: I have this toolbox of modalities that have supported me,

609
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: and my biggest goal is that it may support someone

610
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: else and so people will come to me. And the spiral,

611
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: for example, is a I mean, mine is slightly different,

612
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: but the actual seven levels of the spiral is a

613
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: structured journey.

614
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: I was reading about this last night.

615
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: It's really good.

616
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: So you work on different kind of themes of the

617
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: wrong word but likes very specific feelings or emotions.

618
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, so you use so that it's Dane Thomas

619
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: created the spiral. And he saw all these different maps

620
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: and models you know of the chakra system NLP, you

621
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: know the scale of consciousness, all these different things, and

622
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: when can't we combine this and fast track transformation and

623
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: change for growth. And he's a genius, Dane, and so

624
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: he did create this called the spiral. And so you

625
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: go through each energetic center or each chakra, and there's

626
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: emotions related to that center, and we do what's called

627
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: a root clear. So using kinesiology muscle testing, we root

628
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: clear the installments of that emotion. So, for example, if

629
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: you feel shame, you're not all of a sudden going

630
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: to experience and feel shame for the first time in

631
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: your life. You feel shame and respond to it in

632
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: the way you do based on your lift experience. And

633
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: so using these tools and the muscle testing helps me

634
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: to dive into your subconscious and go, okay, what were

635
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: these installments why do you experience shame in the way

636
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: that you do?

637
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: And this is what blew me away. You do all

638
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: of this on zoom. On zoom so you can muscle

639
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: test doing kinesiology on zoom. You ask for the like

640
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: the client's approval to permission to ten. Yeah, and that's

641
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: how because I was like, haw's she going to when

642
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: first I was like, how's she going to do this?

643
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: And it was so interesting. Can you explain to me

644
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: when something comes up in a sentence because sometimes you

645
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: cough or like clear?

646
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: Is that just energy being released? Yeah? So different practitioners,

647
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: it's called clear in certain ways that you know for them.

648
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: So for me, I yawn a lot when I clear, Oh,

649
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: yes you do. And if something's big or often I

650
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: feel like expression is shut down or something I could

651
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: cough maybe And the yawning though, when you think about it,

652
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: when you yawn, you feel or you take deep breaths

653
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: like that and exhale, you feel like you've just let

654
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Speaker 2: go of something. You feel like little bit, something's shifted,

655
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: something's moved. And so we press on the acupressure points,

656
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: the meridian points in the body. And by pressing on

657
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: those points and breathings out and shaking. Moving, you move

658
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: that emotion that's blocked and clear it from the cellular memory,

659
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: so you start to feel lighter. How cool.

660
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: Just some actors come in, like right before a big

661
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: audition or something and just feel like mate, Laura, I'm

662
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: very nervous about this.

663
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: No need for a beta blocker. Today. We're having a

664
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: little seas. I mean, you know, performance anxiety and things

665
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: like that huge where I combine emotional clearing and EFT.

666
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: Oh how cool. Yeah. So for example, I might someone

667
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: might come and you know, it happens a lot. I've

668
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: got this huge audition or I've got a callback, and

669
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: often what I found with a lot of clients and

670
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: for myself as well, you can go for the audition

671
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: and just surrender and have fun and give it your

672
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: best shot. Then when you get the callback and you're closer,

673
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: feels real and you're like, oh shit, now I'm starting

674
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: to doubt myself and now all of this stuff's coming up,

675
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: and I've got fear and whatever is underneath there, and

676
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: it's my job to hold that safe space, figure out

677
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: what's underneath it that's going to block you from just

678
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: stepping out and being your best, Oh, I love, and

679
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: we clear it and then use the EFT to almost

680
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: tap in this new like you're recoding what it is

681
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: that you can then take into the audition. And it's amazing.

682
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: It's amazing, and I can say this is a huge

683
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: part of me. It's why I pause that. I was like,

684
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to sound so egotistical in saying this,

685
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: but purely from the feedback of clients. They get the job,

686
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: they get the gig, or they get the call back,

687
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: or they get the funding, or they then you know,

688
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: travel overseas and actually live life, or they pivot and

689
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: go down the pathway of motherhood, or they start the

690
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: business as well, or whatever it is. You know, people

691
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: do get incredible outcomes from this work.

692
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: But if you think about it, it makes total sense

693
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: because you're tapping in to find out what the blockage

694
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: is or the negative limiting beliefs is, whatever that is

695
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: that you're stuck on or stuck with, and that's the

696
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: stuff that.

697
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: We could have formed from childhood. Let's be real, absolutely.

698
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Performers all that jazz, and then you're creating a safe

699
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: space us for us to feel it. Like I've cried

700
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times in your sessions and to release

701
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: and then like you said, you're reprogramming so.

702
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: That you're kind of just feel like you're goal.

703
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: If it's an audition or a callback, you're going to

704
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: go back just going I feel clear, and I feel

705
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: myself absolutely.

706
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: How you book the gig, that's it the biggest, biggest goal,

707
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: And it's all based on intention. So every session will

708
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: have an intention. What is it that you're wanting to

709
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: get out of this? Yeah, how do you want to feel?

710
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: For example, if we use that audition as the example,

711
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 2: how do you want to feel when that door opens

712
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: and you step into that room. You don't want to

713
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: feel nervous and full of fear and feeling shamed and

714
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: all of this. You want to feel clear, balanced and aligned.

715
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: And that's what I support people to do. But it's

716
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: so different for the individual. And that's where that toolbox

717
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: I was talking about. I could be in the midst

718
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: of clearing and then I'll go, oh, there's this NLP

719
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: process it's going to cut them through for this, and

720
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: so I'll bring that in. Or there's that pose site

721
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: thing that I think is going to really help to reframe,

722
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: and so I'll bring that in and so it's really

723
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: when people go, so what exactly is a session, like,

724
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: I can't really give you like last step by step,

725
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: It depends what comes to me. One thing I noticed

726
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: was I.

727
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: Felt exhausted after the first one.

728
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: Is that common, very common people can either feel completely

729
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: elated and like, oh my god, I want to go

730
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: out and run and create that thing and do this

731
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: and then potentially crash or they feel like, oh my gosh,

732
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: I just need a sleep after this. And a lot

733
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: of this work is actually regulating the nervous system. And

734
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: so if you think about it from a nervous system perspective,

735
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: if we've been in a place where potentially we've had

736
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: a lot going on and we're disregulated, and you do

737
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: EFT tapping and release the stress and regulate the AMIG

738
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: dialer and come back into balance and feel less stressed

739
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: and a piece within yourself. Your nervous system potentially hasn't

740
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: felt regulated in a while totally, And so then you

741
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: might go, I just need to sleep, yeah, And then like,

742
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: how did you feel after.

743
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Them the next day? Yeah, so much fresher. Yeah, it's

744
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: like a reset.

745
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the feeling like when you talked about the tears.

746
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: I mean, thank you for saying that you feel safe,

747
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: because that is one of my absolute goals is that

748
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: everyone that comes to see me, no matter what your

749
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: background is, is that you feel safe because you're sharing

750
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: so much. Motions are healthy.

751
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: I think we're taught like, oh, no, you know you

752
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: don't don't cry.

753
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: It's like, no cry, right, And when I and that's

754
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: some of my favorite moments. This could sound quite morbid,

755
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: but in a session when someone actually and I can

756
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: feel it building, and I'll say it's like what Ian said, right,

757
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: quicken the breath, but I'll say, take that deep lower

758
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: belly breath and they take it. Floodgates open and it

759
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 2: looks like they just melt into the chair. Ah, because

760
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I'm safe to feel this. And a

761
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: lot of this work is allowing you to dig deep

762
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: and discover and be with what is there and not

763
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: run away from it and not feel shamed for it,

764
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: and not feel that you are alone in experiencing it.

765
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: The amount of times I say to clients you are

766
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: not alone and what you're going through. The person right

767
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: before went through this thing but in a different flavor. Yeah,

768
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: you know we all have we're all beautifully flawed and imperfect,

769
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: and you know, if we can feel safe to express

770
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: and feel, our emotions are also incredible indicators for something

771
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: to shine the light on.

772
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: I love that I made a list of a few

773
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: feelings and emotions and I said, well, I'd love to

774
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: get your take on some of them. Obviously, like understand,

775
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: you've got client confidentiality and stuff, but I'm sure there

776
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: are some themes that would come up, especially in the

777
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: creative realm, that I just wanted to get your take

778
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: on them, and whatever comes up comes up. But even

779
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: before that, I love that we were talking about I

780
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: get really nervous when I work with my favorite acting

781
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: teachers because I kind of hold on this pedestal and

782
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to You're literally meant to

783
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: fuck up in front of an acting teacher, and I'm like,

784
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to fuck up in front of my

785
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: favorite acting teacher. They didn't know that I put the

786
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: work in U worth the lines. I know the dialect perfectly,

787
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: and I am just as good as the actor, you know,

788
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: like the brain just ther perfectionist brain is just like man.

789
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: And yet every single time I go into a class,

790
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: I fall flat on my face and grow immensely and

791
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: learn and become a better actor as a result. But

792
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: what is that thing when you hold like your teacher

793
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: on this weird kind of mentor pedestally thing.

794
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: Oh and not just teachers, anyone, anyone, anyone, you're sibling,

795
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: you know, like anyone, anyone. It's you know, it's called

796
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: the pedestal to pit trap. The pedestal to pit trap.

797
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: And this comes up in sessions, Oh my god, Lola,

798
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: all the time, all the time. Whenever you pedestal someone,

799
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: you automatically throw yourself in the pit. So anytime you

800
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: put someone above you, you're throwing yourself in the pit.

801
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: And when you're in the pit, you are negating and

802
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: completely letting go of what is brilliant about you, and

803
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 2: you're just looking up to this person who is not you.

804
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: And then also that person that's on the pedestal. Often

805
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: what can happen is it then when they do something wrong,

806
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: it's almost like you start to look for it. You

807
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: then can throw them in the pit and you up

808
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: on the pedestal. It can happen, and so then you

809
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: just notice, right, it's out of balance the whole time.

810
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: I think acting and agent relationships could fall into this

811
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: a little bit too, like because you're like, Oh, I

812
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: don't want to upset my age and I've got to

813
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: do this audition even though I don't think it's the

814
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: right fit for me, because I dont want to upset them,

815
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: And it's like this, hang on, if you know it's

816
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: not the right fit for you, don't freaking submit the audition.

817
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think, And it's okay to say no

818
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: Ah and trust that saying no there will be more.

819
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: I mean, the no is a whole conversation. I love it,

820
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: but I'm addicted to it. But it would be you're

821
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: addicted to the no. I love saying that. I really

822
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: enjoy guying.

823
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: I'll always look at it something and then I'll go,

824
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: thank you so much for that offer.

825
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: That's just not for me right now.

826
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: And I'll often refer and go, I think this person

827
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: is going to be a great fit for what you're after.

828
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: That one's not for me right now.

829
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: Not act necessarily an acting capacity, but sometimes in like

830
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: socializing or oh have you thought about doing that? Or

831
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: ask that person out. I don't really want to do

832
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: that thing, or I don't want to go drinking that night.

833
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I love that and I

834
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: feel that takes an incredible amount of self awareness and

835
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: self you know, self belief really like to know who

836
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: you are, to be able to know what your no is.

837
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also to like no about you. But I've

838
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: got this little I've got these little golden hours in

839
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: the mornings, you know what I mean. I just never

840
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: want to jeopardize my mornings. And so I'm like, I

841
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: will do anything I can to like honor my golden hours,

842
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: whether it's writing, learning a monologue, whatever, working on a post. Yes,

843
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: my magic because my brain turns to mush as the

844
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: day goes on.

845
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, awareness to know that about yourself, you know,

846
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: and I think you know when it comes to that,

847
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: that that piece. Especially I find this with a lot

848
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: of younger actors. There is a fear underneath there that

849
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: if you say no, then your agent's going to dump

850
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: you and get rid of you and you're not going

851
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: to get another audition coming through. You know, there's a

852
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: fear attached to saying no, but actually owning it is

853
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: so powerful and actually build respect.

854
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember the day I did the egg retrieval

855
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: for IVF, an audition came through for my agents, and

856
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: I saw the audition and I didn't I was literally

857
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: so nervous about the procedure that I didn't respond, which

858
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: is highly not my character. But I was like, I'm

859
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: going into theater and they straightway checked in and was like, hey,

860
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: have you got the audition note? And I just said,

861
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm actually going to hospital today.

862
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to be for the next seventy two hours,

863
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you giving me the audition. They said,

864
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: no worries, good luck kind of thing. And then as

865
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: soon as the seventy two hour mark hit, a second

866
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: audition came in and I knew I wasn't ready yet.

867
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: I knew I was still healing, and I said, thank

868
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: you so much, I'm still healing. Next audition it comes through,

869
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm yours, and I just I knew you. I knew

870
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I knew I was like, there love

871
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: no point.

872
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: Yep, like, because what would you be submitting if you

873
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: did when you were in that state exactly exactly, And

874
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: that's boundaries, that's our boundaries, and it makes space, and

875
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: you would I know this is like you're all about this,

876
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: but I believe it does make space for that next

877
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: thing that does come in. That was the thing that

878
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: you were meant to say yes to. Do you believe

879
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: in all that? I one hundred percent believe in that,

880
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: And it can sound quite woo woo for a lot

881
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: of people, I think, but my God, trust and faith,

882
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 2: having trust and faith, trust and faith, you know. I'll

883
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: often say to clients, especially in spiral journeys, and we're

884
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: going through d transformational journeys together, trust and faith, trust

885
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 2: and faith, you know. And then for some of them

886
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: it's been around the nine months twelve month mark that

887
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: they're like, it happened, this thing happened, you know, And

888
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: so it's like, yeah, often when we're on the press,

889
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: a purse of big change on the press, a purse

890
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: of expansion that can also be the most confronting, and

891
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: often that's the time when we want to pull the

892
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: pin and eject, get out because it feels too much.

893
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: But it's like, hold tight, keep breathing, stay in your body.

894
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: You know, you're in the process of growth. And that's

895
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: where I feel. Being supported in that for me personally

896
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: is crucial and support comes in so many different forms.

897
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: My work may resonate with that person and not those people.

898
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: And that's okay, that's what I've got, you know, really

899
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: comfortable with accepting. I think it's building a team though.

900
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: It's having someone like a you, but it's having an

901
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: epic partn that gets you, like and understands you. It's

902
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: having like cool people around you that are your team,

903
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: Like I love my.

904
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: GP, you know what I mean. Like, it's just having

905
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: your therapist, you know, and that's like talk therapy, you know,

906
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: being with a clinical psychologist. I mean, god, I do see.

907
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know you would have to to be

908
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: able to heal and hold a space for so much yealing.

909
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: I imagine, Oh yeah, I mean she's not on speed doll,

910
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: but she practically is. Yeah, you know she's she's amazing.

911
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: But I take my mental health and my well being seriously.

912
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: And did you notice that when you were in LA

913
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: that having a therapist, Like everyone has a therapist. They

914
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: have like three, Yeah, because they can't get in that day.

915
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: No, they've got they've got like a U right, so

916
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: they've got someone that's specific for their craft or their

917
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: dreams or their like career. Then they've got a couple's therapists,

918
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: and then they've got like they've got like a guru

919
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: or meant like a it's so interesting. But an American

920
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: like if you say you've got a therapist, they're like,

921
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: oh how many?

922
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: Like they literally have a team. Love that. Yeah it's

923
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: in Australia. It still feels yeah, I've got a therapist.

924
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh so do was something wrong with you to need

925
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: to have a therapist? And I'll be like, yeah, I

926
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: went through a shitty breakup and I'll dealt with that

927
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: within three sessions and just kept going that's it.

928
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: No, you don't realize until you're in.

929
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: There that like, oh, it's the superpower, mate, I mean

930
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: the superpower I wouldn't be at There's no way I

931
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: would have gone back to acting school at fucking thirty

932
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: one without it.

933
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: Without that exactly, And I think, you know when I

934
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: get blown away, like I truly get blown away when

935
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: you look at the support that he's out there for us,

936
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: if we can have the courage to ask for it, yeah,

937
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of the time, if we're privileged enough

938
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: to be able to afford it, right, And that's where

939
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: mental health care plans are so phenomenal. I remember, you

940
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: know it's Starlight. We were so blessed. We had the

941
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: EAP and so any say.

942
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: Starlight, Sorry you mean Starlight Foundation, Starlight Children's Foundation.

943
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I worked as a Captain Starlight there for

944
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: eleven years. I was Captain Rainbow, so fun, and we

945
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: had EAP. So you that's where I found God. I

946
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: can't remember what it stands for, but it's like the

947
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: organization pays for you to have therapy. And because of

948
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: the line of work, like because we were exposed to

949
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: a lot in that job, we were able to access

950
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: and this support. And that's where I ended up finding

951
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: my psychologist. And I think what I'd love to share

952
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: as well is for me the journey because I know

953
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: a lot of people go I tried that and it

954
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: was just shit. I didn't really get on with that therapist,

955
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, or I didn't relate to them. Whatever, try again.

956
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: If you feel like you need support, try again. And

957
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: I went through quite a few psychologists before finding the

958
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: YE fit. Yeah, and I think it, Yeah.

959
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: I think it takes a couple of sessions, like dating,

960
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: you kind of needed like you know, you need to

961
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: get to know, Like I was like, I need someone's

962
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: a bit funny, you know.

963
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: That's it.

964
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: Drying it, you know, like I think it's I always say,

965
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: try like, treat it like dating. The first few sessions,

966
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: check that you're a fit absolutely, and then if it fits,

967
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: run with it.

968
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: And also have an awareness of what type of support

969
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: you like. Yeah, for me, when I went and I

970
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: had tried a few, I then went to we had

971
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: a psychologist purely for our team of captains, who was phenomenal,

972
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: and I said to them, I really need a clinical

973
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: psychologist that's going to give me that and the science

974
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: and everything, but I also need them to be spiritual

975
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: as well and to understand that realm. Yeah, I know

976
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: exactly the person and bang, that's who it was. So

977
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: also have the courage to also ask for what it

978
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: is that you want in a therapist.

979
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: They are they're great.

980
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: Therapists are out there, they're out there, or kinesiologists or

981
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: coaches or you know, my beautiful mother in law is

982
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: a hypnotherapist like this so much, do you know?

983
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know my therapist was a hypnotherapist. And then

984
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: one day I was like, so do you do hypnotherapies?

985
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: Like We've been doing it every.

986
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: Session longng I've been in trance this whole time.

987
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, what yeh mean, I'm like those

988
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: visualizations is like yes, and I'm like, I thought, you're

989
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: just getting me to like find the energy of an eagle.

990
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: Like I had no clue, but it's probably why I've

991
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: loved it so much. I quickly aware totally running out

992
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: of time, But I want to just talk about, like

993
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: I was saying some like things I think that as

994
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: actors or creatives that come up and just say whatever

995
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: you want to say about them, whether it's common, whether

996
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: it's linked to like I'm not even going to tell

997
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: you what to say, just have fun. But and it's

998
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: stuff that I've definitely personally felt self doubt, it's got

999
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: to be a common one.

1000
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Right, oh yeah, regular, oh yeah?

1001
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: And is it linked to like stuff that's happened when

1002
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: you were younger or can it be anything? Can it

1003
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: be triggered by anything?

1004
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean, like if I can use this example, like

1005
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: coming into this podcast interview, oh my god, no, so

1006
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: much self doubt popped up and I was like, whoh,

1007
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: there you are again, And I hadn't had that in

1008
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: a while. And I was like, you know, and I'm

1009
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: so lucky that I have these tools that I used,

1010
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: and I literally gave myself the advice that I would

1011
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: give to my clients, and I dug deep into it

1012
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: and I did some clearing to find out what it is.

1013
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: And when I got to the core of it, I

1014
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: was like, WHOA, it's self doubt. It's feeling like I'm

1015
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: putting myself in a position where I'm exposed. And then

1016
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: it's like, well, what does feeling exposed mean to me?

1017
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: And then it's like, well, I'm not showing up as

1018
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: the actor or I'm here coaching one on one. I

1019
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: don't know how many people may listen to this episode,

1020
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: but there's definitely going to be more than one person.

1021
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: And so I'm exposing myself to an audience that I

1022
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: don't know and that feels really confronting. And then who

1023
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: am I to be interviewed on this? And if Laola's

1024
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: trying to find stuff about me, what the hell is

1025
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: she gonna find? There's nothing, And I just went into

1026
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: this spiral of self doubt. And then underneath all of

1027
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: that was vulnerability, and then underneath all of that was

1028
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 2: self worth, and then underneath all of that was fear.

1029
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: And then when I dug deep and deep and deep

1030
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: and got to those route, you know, causes of it.

1031
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, okay, I'm scared. I'm going to

1032
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: be criticized. I'm scared. I'm not going to know what

1033
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: to say. I'm scared.

1034
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: Done. God, two mates, catch it up easy.

1035
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: And that's just such your gift, you know, your gift

1036
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: of making me feel so comfortable. So thank you, you know.

1037
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: But it's so normal. It's so normal. And I was

1038
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: able to press on those points and breathe and release it.

1039
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: We were actually down at Lighthouse Beach and Jordie and

1040
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: Ruemy went off to swim there and I'm sitting in

1041
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: the surf clearing myself, and then I cleared it and

1042
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: this peace came through. Where it was a lack of

1043
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: self trust. I was like, ah, I don't trust myself

1044
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: to know what I'm talking about. And then as I

1045
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: cleared it, I practically got dunked by this way, and

1046
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: I was like, thank you. That's like, get on with it,

1047
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: you know, And then I did some tapping to support

1048
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: my nervous system to feel safer, to just be in

1049
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: my body and feel safe.

1050
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: Pods are scary, though, like because like you said, you

1051
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: don't know how many people are going to listen to it.

1052
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: You don't know the audience, Like you don't know if

1053
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: it's actors or men or women or is it like kids?

1054
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: Is it old? But you don't know.

1055
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: I could have told you the demographic, but I promise

1056
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: you people do listen. But it's I get it, like

1057
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: any I think also like going into any unknown brings

1058
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: all that any unknown, it just like it all bubbles completely,

1059
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: like bubbles up every time. And it's so cool that

1060
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: you're able to use your own tools and techniques to

1061
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: be like, fuck, there's a lot of fear here. Wow,

1062
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the like trust, Like, it's pretty

1063
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: cool that you were able to like know where that.

1064
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: And that's why I love mental health and this kind

1065
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: of emotional clearing work so much because it feels like

1066
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 1: a superpower when you can learn this about yourself. Which

1067
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: brings me to my next topic. Go on it, seek

1068
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: get your take on. And that is something that actors

1069
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: face all the time, which is rejection. And right before

1070
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: we hit record, and I know I'm going to sound

1071
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: like a true wanker saying this, I'm not scared of rejection.

1072
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: And I know that's a very weird trait to have.

1073
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: I kind of like it, like it rials me up,

1074
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: like it fires me up.

1075
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm I like, all right, just keep going in towards it.

1076
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 1: Yes, let's just and I've got that like bulldoggie thing.

1077
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: But I know, and I see friends that are such

1078
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: talented actors and can act me under a table like

1079
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not joking, you like talent coming out of

1080
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: their bum hoole is knows the works, but they're so

1081
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: scared of rejection that they just don't jump. And so

1082
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: is rejection a common one, especially with creatives? Absolutely, what's

1083
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: it tied to like needing to be loved or is

1084
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: it a what is it?

1085
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: If? So individual? It's so individual. They could have, you know,

1086
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: had a lot of pressure put on them to succeed

1087
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: and excel at school. And therefore this, you know, perfectionism

1088
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: kind of crept in. And often, you know, the more

1089
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: we are a perfectionist, the more actually imperfect we are,

1090
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: because we're looking for the faults, you know. And it

1091
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: could have to do with lived experience, of course, or

1092
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: even you know, it could have been that you've actually

1093
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: been out of it for a while, and so that

1094
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: anticipatory anxiety of like getting back in the ring and

1095
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: going for it again can just seem too much, and understandably, yeah,

1096
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: and when you think about it from a nervous system perspective,

1097
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: that's a lot. You feel almost like you're in your

1098
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: fight or flight right, like, oh my god, this just

1099
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: feels too scary, So I just want to reject and

1100
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: I want to flee or whatever it is that maybe

1101
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: you go to when you're in those places. I think

1102
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: it's such a part of this industry and something that

1103
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: a lot of my clients that are in the arts

1104
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: get to is they'll message me and go, got the no,

1105
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: but bloody hell, I'm proud of myself onto the next one.

1106
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: But that's because they've cleared the interferences. They've cleared and

1107
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: been able to release and let go that it's them

1108
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: that's the failure. And it's like, ah, that just wasn't mine. Yeah,

1109
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: And that can sound quite flippant, and I'm aware that

1110
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: that can sound quite flippant, but this is them doing

1111
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: a lot of work to get to that point. And

1112
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: I think that when we can embrace the no, like

1113
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: if everyone had your attitude that they actually loved the know,

1114
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: like when I hear you say that, like you know,

1115
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,479
Speaker 2: when I think about it from a strengths profile point

1116
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: of view, potentially bounce back could be quite high up

1117
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: on your real life strengths, meaning you get like you

1118
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: see rejection and you use it as a springboard for

1119
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: something bigger and better. Ah, watch me springboard to this,

1120
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: which is amazing. And to have skills like that to

1121
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: be able to see the no. I shared about this

1122
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: on my social media. You know, it's like, if you

1123
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: receive a no, that means you are a part of it.

1124
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: That means you're putting yourself out there and you're in

1125
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: the ring. Celebrate that. That does not mean that you

1126
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: were a failure.

1127
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: There's this awesome saying about Los Angeles that I live by.

1128
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: I love it.

1129
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: And it's like they say, if you sit at the

1130
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: table long enough, you collect the chips like you do,

1131
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: the time there, like you do. You're there, and you

1132
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: stay present, You go to those auditions, you do those callbacks,

1133
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 1: you go to class consistently. Eventually it pays off. Yes,

1134
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: And I always think that I'm like, I'm going to

1135
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: collect these chips that I'm here at the table, chips

1136
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: coming home one day, this chair is mine, But it

1137
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: always when I'm having one of those days where I'm

1138
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: like this, palm trees are great, but I need a

1139
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: little more here in la. You know, there's some days

1140
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: that are effing tough and confronting and all the stuff.

1141
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: And that's where I want to Yes, I love the

1142
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: reject like I enjoy the rejection. The thing that I

1143
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: know is my Achilles heel is like, if my confidence

1144
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: is down, forget about it. I can put a self

1145
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: tape up and be like, I won't even doubt it.

1146
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: I'll just be like I know that that I wasn't

1147
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: clear when I did it. I'll just know.

1148
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: And it's always for me, is like confidence, and it's

1149
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: about like how I feel within myself mentally, physically and

1150
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: emotionally like it has to be and spiritually it all

1151
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: has to be totally in alignment.

1152
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: And that takes work. That takes work, and I find

1153
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people that have that when

1154
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 2: they come to see me. A lot of the time

1155
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: they're stuck in their head. And then it's our thoughts,

1156
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, And we then start to feel that our thoughts, feelings,

1157
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: emotions are who we are, and so then the movie

1158
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: in our mind is created and it's like this is shit.

1159
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: This is going to be terrible. Why am I even

1160
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: submitting it? And then that's the energy that you're putting

1161
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: into it and out there. And whereas if we can

1162
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: like somatically get back into the body, you know, ground yourself,

1163
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: shake out your body, dance around your living like jump

1164
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: jump jump, get into your body, sometimes things can start

1165
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: to shift there as well, like a little hack to

1166
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: shift that. And sometimes you need to step away and

1167
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: then come back into it when you feel a little

1168
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: bit more energized to it. But I think that the

1169
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: confidence is a huge part. You know, you get a

1170
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: blow to your confidence slowly, you don't feel as confident

1171
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 2: as you did yesterday. You know, it takes so much

1172
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: to rebuild that.

1173
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: You're so right about their being in your head. Though,

1174
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: every acting coach is like Lola, back to the body. Yeah,

1175
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: especially improv straight away like you're planning your bit.

1176
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: I can see it.

1177
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: Lola like, wow, go back to the line, get in

1178
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: your body, and I'm like yeah, And that's why I

1179
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: loved improv so much, even though it was failure every

1180
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: single day. Like you do body shakes before you even

1181
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: are allowed to go on set, and you're you're like

1182
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: the theater sports that you're doing, you can't be in

1183
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: your head, like it forces you to be like playing

1184
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: the weirdest games and you're like, I don't even know,

1185
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: I've got no idea about American pop culture. This is

1186
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: really hard, like and you just but it because it's

1187
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: so physical. Yes, you're straight away you're forced to get

1188
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: out of your head, and that's a really good I

1189
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: think you're right about, like the confidence that overthinking it

1190
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: must be like.

1191
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: And you have a player, you have someone else there, right,

1192
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's like, are we making this about us

1193
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: too much? And then it's like, ah, hello, ego, here

1194
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: you are. Yeah it's okay, Yeah you're there, but it's

1195
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: you know, it's okay. I can feel you. I know

1196
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: you're there, and then boom, put it onto the player

1197
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: you're acting and performing with, and it's not about you.

1198
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: Can also sometimes help to get you out of that

1199
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: space as well. I feel like I'm getting acting coaching sessions.

1200
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: Oh god love it.

1201
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: People say to me, are you an acting coach? I'm like,

1202
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I've always thought I've always thought it be

1203
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: so fun. Imagine teaching like teen teen actors.

1204
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always thought.

1205
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: It'd be great, Yeah, you'd be amazing, but he's the

1206
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: helper with the nose.

1207
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: Well, here's the confidence piece.

1208
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I haven't booked an acting it yet professionally,

1209
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: so I can't.

1210
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't do you know what I mean?

1211
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: And there's totally confidence piece to go. Well, hang on,

1212
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: I've got a little boe and whatever the saying is,

1213
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: I can teach you now.

1214
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, confident enough to teach you. Oh I know that

1215
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: so well. I mean part of what held me back

1216
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: from starting my business for so long is I was like,

1217
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: I've only trained in positive psychology, but I'm not a

1218
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: clinical psychologist, So who's going to listen to me if

1219
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: I don't have that piece of paper. So much, there's

1220
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: so much stuff that constantly will come hold me.

1221
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: Back, and yeah, I could, like my dream is to

1222
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: be like Steve Colbert, right, or Jimmy Kimmel, but they're

1223
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: all incredible comedians, stand up comedians first, or like been

1224
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: in like Second City or like all those incredible SNL

1225
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: like comedy congloments. I'm like, that's that's not me. I'm

1226
01:06:52,440 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: a nutritionist. Liked the identity piece, Yeah, okay, the the

1227
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: final energy or emotion I want to talk to you about.

1228
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: Is something that came up in a session of yours

1229
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: when we were doing We're working through the Charkras and

1230
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: you were like, Okay, I'm feeling that dread is coming up.

1231
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, it was like.

1232
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: This like guttural feeling where I was like, I have

1233
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: not realized that I have felt read until like, because

1234
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 4: I'd never named I didn't know, and I thought, fuck,

1235
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 4: that's a rotten thing to feel like.

1236
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: It's not a fun feeling like dread, and.

1237
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: It feels like a confronting feeling for me as well.

1238
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: How common does something like dread because that's a to

1239
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: me that feels heavy, like hmm.

1240
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: Again, it's so individual, because vulnerability coming up might be

1241
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: like oh my god and feel so heavy for someone,

1242
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: or anxiety or low self esteem might just trigger something

1243
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: in someone, So it is in individual. But how often

1244
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: does something come up that really like oh Knox, yeah,

1245
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: not every session really, yeah, oh man. And not that's

1246
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: not to say that, oh, this is scary work, you know,

1247
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,520
Speaker 2: it's really confronting. No, but there will. It's it's discovery.

1248
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: Really when I look at it, it's like, you know,

1249
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 2: a client said to me, recently they were like, it's

1250
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: like going scuba diving and finding out what's underneath on

1251
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: that ocean floor. And so when you go scuba diving

1252
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: and you find something under that rock that you're like, shit,

1253
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know this was here. It's big, you know,

1254
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: and then having the ability to sit with it and

1255
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: get curious with it and go, wow, what does that

1256
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: mean for me to feel dread or whatever it is

1257
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 2: can uncover and unlock and then our coo yeah so

1258
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: much so it happens a lot. But then also coming

1259
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: back to the safety piece for someone to explore that

1260
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: you need to feel safe with a person that you're

1261
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: sitting in front to bring it up.

1262
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: And then I feel like the flip side of all this,

1263
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: like once you welcome the uncomfy stuff, sim with it,

1264
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: Like the flip side of this is going to be

1265
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: like resilience, being grounded, feeling confident, feeling connected to your

1266
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: true self, having a sense of worth and value and like,

1267
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: hang on, I love who I am.

1268
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: I've got something to offer.

1269
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and is that kind of like the goal, But

1270
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 1: like seeing the beautiful like shift within a session or

1271
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: within people over time from these like more like like

1272
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: limiting belief systems into these very expansive ways of living

1273
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: and going about life.

1274
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's where you know, for example, with the spiral,

1275
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: and that is a journey. As I said, we start

1276
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: with the root chakra and we clear shame, guilt and dogma.

1277
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: So really none of us want to be running around

1278
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: going morning, Oh, I'm just sitting in my shape, feeling

1279
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: guilty about everything, listening to the rules of everyone else

1280
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 2: around me. Don't want to be in that place. And

1281
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: then when you move up and through the journey of

1282
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: the spiral, it starts to become lighter. And so yeah,

1283
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: you start to come into those places and people rediscover

1284
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: who they are now who they thought they were going

1285
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: to be. And so there's definitely that shift and definitely

1286
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: that change, and you know it takes work. But it's

1287
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: not to say that then you're always going to be

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Speaker 2: in those places. We can't be in these states of

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Speaker 2: feeling great all the time. And I think that's the piece.

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Speaker 2: A lot of my clients are at the peak of

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Speaker 2: their success as well. They are like in the films,

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Speaker 2: on the TV shows, on the stages, and then on

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Speaker 2: the flip side, it's also like I am at the

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Speaker 2: peak of my career. I am earning more money than

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Speaker 2: I ever thought was possible. I'm being seen by X,

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Speaker 2: Y and Z, I'm getting opportunities knocking at my door

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Speaker 2: and feeling so confident and finally it's happening. But holy shit,

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Speaker 2: how can I stay in this place? And so then

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Speaker 2: we also work through clearing that and going you don't

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Speaker 2: have to stay in that place. You are a human

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Speaker 2: being that now has these amazing opportunities. That's great, celebrate it.

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Speaker 2: But you are a human and it's normal for you

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Speaker 2: to be scared of then not having anything else on

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Speaker 2: the next gig or whatever it is. So this work

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Speaker 2: isn't just when you are in the pit and feeling crap.

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Speaker 2: It's like, on the flip side, things are going really well.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that because I used to

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Speaker 1: always bring books out. That was my whole career, and

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Speaker 1: I remember you'd have like press month, so it'd started

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Speaker 1: a week before the book was on sale. You'd potentially

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Speaker 1: tour the book, you do TV, you do radio, you know,

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Speaker 1: the works, any kind of media, and then after that

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Speaker 1: press month. So that's where you're trying to get the

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Speaker 1: high book numbers and sales because that determines whether it

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Speaker 1: goes into reprint and all that kind of thing. If

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Speaker 1: you're publishers happy in when you do another book, it's

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Speaker 1: all it all happens in one month.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then the second you hit that one month almost

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Speaker 1: to the day, everything stops. Not because you've done anything wrong,

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Speaker 1: but the pr campaign has done.

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Speaker 2: The book now needs to.

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Speaker 1: We have to see it in the real world and

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Speaker 1: just see what happens after all this amazing media. And

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Speaker 1: then the phone goes from like every hour of your

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Speaker 1: day is planned out to like TV spots, radio da

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Speaker 1: da da, you know, interviews, to literally crickets. And I

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Speaker 1: had to learn so quickly because it was.

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Speaker 2: Like the downs.

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Speaker 1: You get this like real down, like oh am I

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: worth nothing now? Because I've just yeah and the book

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Speaker 1: was doing great, but you don't know that in the

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: time You've got no idea. And it must be that

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Speaker 1: same things like an actor's got this amazing gig. They're

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: doing an incredible series, but there'd be that time where

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Speaker 1: you don't know if it's going to get renewed.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and even post show blues, you finish on that

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: high and then it's like afterwards, what am I going

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01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,919
Speaker 2: to be doing now, and yeah, going from these extremes,

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01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: it can be quite a roller coaster and even de rolling,

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 2: even then letting go of that character. You know, we

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01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 2: do a lot of work around people de rolling from

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01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: big characters. You know, if they're playing a murder or

1344
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: a rapist or things like that. You don't want to

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01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: be holding on and bringing that into the house. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of ups and downs and so being

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Speaker 2: able to navigate and be supported. And that's where coming

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Speaker 2: back to that support network, your team around you. To

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Speaker 2: have your team around you. And you hear this with

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01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 2: a lot of celebrities, right, Oh, when you finish and

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01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: all the fuss and everything is over and you're out

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01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 2: of the red carpets and the spotlight and everything, who

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01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: am I now in this space where I just want

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: to go down the road and not be recognized or

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Speaker 2: whatever it is for the individual having the support network,

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: but also the people that you can be vulnerable with

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Speaker 2: and share, Oh, I was up here and now I'm

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: down here and this feels really confronting. It's okay, yeah,

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01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: and you can get through it, you know. So fascinating

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Speaker 2: and that's fascinating hearing about that as well.

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Speaker 1: Or it's just very similar, I think from what it sounds.

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Speaker 1: Oh mate, I could talk to you all day long.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put in the show notes all the

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Speaker 1: details of how people can have a session.

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Speaker 2: With you or do a course with you. I know

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Speaker 2: you do.

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Speaker 1: Group sessions, one on one. You've got, like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: the spiral, There's so much stuff that you can offer.

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Speaker 1: It will all be in the show notes. So listener,

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Speaker 1: have a squizz check the beautiful Laura out. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to end with one final question. Yes to an actor.

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Speaker 1: This is also a selfish question if I'm about to

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Speaker 1: go back to Los Angeles, little old actor, all of

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Speaker 1: my own, but it's to an actor wanting to shine.

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Speaker 1: And I understand we everybody's individual, but if you just

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Speaker 1: want to walk into whether it's a class, an audition,

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Speaker 1: a meeting with an agent, meeting with a director, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is, but you just want to authentically shine as yourself.

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Speaker 1: Is there any little practice or little hack or anything

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Speaker 1: that we can do just like connect quickly to ourselves,

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Speaker 1: even we're sitting in the car five minutes before we

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Speaker 1: get out for a big meeting, or right before we

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Speaker 1: hit record on that self tape. We've done it five times.

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Speaker 1: You know this six one is going to be the winner.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything we can do just to be with

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Speaker 1: ourselves right and like connect right before something scary?

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Speaker 2: I love this question. There's there's a few things coming

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Speaker 2: into my mind, but the first one that I connected

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Speaker 2: with and so I'm going to share that is I

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01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: would say, connect with your inner child. And what that

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Speaker 2: could look like is closing down your eyes, placing a

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01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 2: hand on your heart, and just noticing if your little

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: person is inside of you. And they often will show up.

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Speaker 2: And often what I find happens is when we're connecting

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Speaker 2: with our inner child, they can actually give us the

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Speaker 2: messages for how we're truly feeling. So, for example, for me,

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Speaker 2: I'll connect into her for me, and I've often seen

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Speaker 2: her sitting on a step or sitting on you know,

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Speaker 2: stoop or whatever. It is just kind of a bit slumped,

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Speaker 2: and I will just simply say, you know, observe and

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: simply say is that anything you need right now? And

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just to sit next to me, to hug me,

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01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: to hold my hand, and I connect in with that,

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01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: and then I will share something that feels good for me.

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Speaker 2: So for me, I might say you are enough and

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Speaker 2: it's a simple practice like that that Really what it's

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Speaker 2: doing is regulating your nervous system, helping you to connect

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Speaker 2: in with yourself, breathe, recognize that you are amazing, and

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01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: you are worthy, and you are deserving, and you are enough,

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Speaker 2: and that you're safe to feel what you're feeling. You're

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Speaker 2: safe to feel nervous, You're safe to want to get

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Speaker 2: it right. It's all normal. You're not alone in that. Ah.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could bottle you up. Mate.

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Speaker 1: That was unreal. You're phenomenal and it's been a total

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01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: honor to have you on this pod.

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Speaker 2: Did you have fun?

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Speaker 1: I loved that really, Yeah, it was an honor to

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Speaker 1: be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And to anyone who's listening, thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening. And I love these listeners. Yeah, what eggs.

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Speaker 2: I bet listening to you all the time. That have

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Speaker 2: to be so amazing. You're incredible, mate, Feelings, mutual, big love.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lullerberry. This potty my word

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Speaker 2: Is available on all platforms. I'd love it if

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Speaker 1: the love.