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Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was, and joining

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Speaker 1: us in the studio this morning, we've got the Deputy

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Speaker 1: or Position Leader, Jared Mayley.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good.

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Speaker 3: Morning Katie, Good morning listeners, go PARAMOUNTA.

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Speaker 2: Already into the footy.

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Speaker 1: We've got Tom Morgan, the political reporter for the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory News.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Tom.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 2: Lovely to have you in the studio.

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Speaker 1: And we have got we've got a Labor member here

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Speaker 1: today fars He's back the pop.

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Speaker 2: Up always here.

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Speaker 5: A busy morning back.

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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, Good morning to you all, and it's

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Speaker 1: been an incredibly busy week. We might actually start with

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Speaker 1: the fact that we know the federal election race is

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Speaker 1: well and truly on, and we started the week with

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Speaker 1: well not Anthony Albanezy, but today he is finally out

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Speaker 1: of COVID isolation as I understand, and back on the hustings.

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Speaker 1: But we did have the Prime Minister Scott Morrison in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and a raft of other politicians from

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Speaker 1: both the Labor Party and the Coalition, which I think

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Speaker 1: really for me makes me realize just how how the

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Speaker 1: Coalition obviously seems to think that they could pick up

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Speaker 1: that seat of Lingiari is my take on it.

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Speaker 2: What's yours?

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Speaker 1: Top?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's definitely in play.

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Speaker 6: I mean to get a politician from Canberra up here

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Speaker 5: Taking like a true local now toime well.

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Speaker 4: You know, been here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but no, I think that definitely the Coalition see Lingiari.

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Speaker 6: I think they even probably see Solomon, although that you know,

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Speaker 6: it depends how things turn out on the night. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean the Government obviously throwing fourteen million dollars at

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Speaker 6: Lingiari and Alice Springs labor, matching that commitment. The Prime

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Speaker 6: Minister also announcing three hundred million dollars for Darwin for

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Speaker 6: energy and labor, I think also matching that as well.

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Speaker 6: So Labour seems to be really trying to if the

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Speaker 6: if the Government makes any commitment, Labour want to be

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Speaker 6: there to say yep, we'll do the same. I think

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Speaker 6: that both parties are really looking to try and keep

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Speaker 6: hold or win Lingiari.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems that way.

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Speaker 1: And look, I was interested over the course of last

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Speaker 1: weekend to see those announcements in Alice Springs. What I

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Speaker 1: an admission that there is a crime crisis not only

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Speaker 1: sort of thought, then, when we had both sides of

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Speaker 7: It's pretty interesting that both the labor representatives are trying

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Speaker 7: to distance to themselves from the government. They're both saying that,

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Speaker 7: you know, the crime should be owned by the Gunner

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Speaker 7: I'm Gosling, said, I'm Gosling, not Gunner. So it's really

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Speaker 7: interesting that they're actually trying to draw that line, understand,

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Speaker 7: to say, we're not the Northern Chokey government, we're the

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Speaker 3: But we all know that they're all one party and

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Speaker 7: So essentially, if you vote for our labor, it's Gosling

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Speaker 2: Nice deflection there.

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Speaker 8: Derek is the CELP you've got a colp sort of

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Speaker 8: the last choice candidate running for you, and then your

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Speaker 8: But you know, in terms of federal labor, Katie, they

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Speaker 8: certainly care about the territory. I think that you know,

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Speaker 8: He's worked hard over a number of years. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: There is no denying though, this issue of crime is

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Speaker 1: at it, Tom, I know that earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: that they are quite concerned about and what did it

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Speaker 6: Crime was I think far and away the most important

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Speaker 6: So those two issues are really going to be key

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I think that there.

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Speaker 6: Was someone who I was talking to yesterday who said

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Speaker 6: I guess a little bit unhappy with that because they

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Speaker 6: you know, the prime Minister's jetted into town, he stayed

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Speaker 7: You remember, I think, Kay, you said, you hit the

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Speaker 7: nail on their head. It really is the anti governments

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Speaker 7: crime is out of control and we just have to

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Speaker 7: it's completely out of control over there. You can go

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Speaker 3: Time is a real issue, and as it shows that

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Speaker 7: Government have failed and have put the head in the sand,

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Speaker 7: it's trying to pull it out and fix the problem,

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Speaker 7: because that's all people talk to me about is crime, crime,

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Speaker 7: crime and being the victim of crime. For it must

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Speaker 7: be a horrible feeling to have your home invaded, your

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Speaker 3: It just must be a really bad feeling.

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Speaker 8: In relation to that, Katie, we've spoken about this crime

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Speaker 8: But I know that police along with other government agencies

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Speaker 8: in terms of crime and antisocial behavior across the board.

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Speaker 8: You know, all levels of government, Council, NTG and the

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Speaker 1: We have seen something extra that's going to happen though,

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Speaker 8: So Operation Thayer, which police have put in place targeting

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Speaker 8: particularly in Ala Springs, is starting to see some results.

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Speaker 8: But we're certainly not going to stop. There needs to

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Speaker 5: Now let's talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Then what about up here in the top end, because

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Speaker 2: There was teenage girls there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who took the wallet or what

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Speaker 2: Then you come up to the top end in Darwin

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Speaker 1: You know, we've got a school in your electorate that's

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Speaker 1: Don't know exactly what's gone on, but a listener earlier

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Speaker 1: It's a real sense of lawlessness is what people are

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Speaker 1: some good things obviously that you're doing, you know, where

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Speaker 1: there were going to be announcements made, but we're a

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Speaker 8: So Katie, in terms of and you know, these issues

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Speaker 1: Issue though with alcohol issues and the ramifications of what

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Speaker 8: Was about to say, we know that alcohol is the

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Speaker 8: basis of many crime and antisocial behavior and that's unacceptable

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Speaker 8: and will continue to work in that space. In terms

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Speaker 1: This issue though, was first raised, like we have been

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Speaker 7: Ministers, we talk about sending people home and that's good,

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Speaker 7: It's a real issue here in relation to how it works,

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Speaker 5: You're making that everyone that comes crime, So how long.

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Speaker 8: Can I just pick up on a really important point though,

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Speaker 8: You're talking about these large numbers of people that are

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Speaker 3: What to fix the problem.

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Speaker 8: But we're talking about people that come in legitimately takes services.

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Speaker 1: So we've got additional funding for Laroche Nation, but we

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Speaker 8: So Katie, we're working across the board and there will

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Speaker 2: But what I can talk about you people the Chief

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Speaker 8: That say to you, we've got a very competent capitals

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Speaker 8: What I can say in terms of people coming into

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Speaker 1: Kate, it would find two thousand spots like we can't

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Speaker 2: There is a state there is availability in those services.

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Speaker 8: So it's making sure people when they come into town

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Speaker 5: Receiving these services.

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Speaker 8: It's making sure when people finish receiving those services that

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Speaker 8: When I used to teach at Saint Mary's many years ago,

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Speaker 2: Tom, was there something you were going to say, Oh, I.

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Speaker 6: Just I think this could end up hurting labor at

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Speaker 6: There needs to be some action taken by the territory government.

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Speaker 6: I think that you know, the government here may be

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Speaker 5: I have not been asked to.

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Speaker 8: Katie, there's absolutely the message is being heard and there's

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Speaker 5: And so you know we've spoken about this is.

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Speaker 7: So we talked about a bush, We've talked about reviewing

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Speaker 2: Well honestly.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely assure people and it is you know, in terms

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Speaker 8: Get concrete examples of changes in our springs. There are

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Speaker 2: I've got to be honest, I feel as though you

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Speaker 5: Exactly what to do to fix so we're part of

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Speaker 1: In these community to fix it, I feel as though

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Speaker 8: So what I accept is by scrapping the BDR, getting

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Speaker 1: to play a little bit of audio from Alex Bruce

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Speaker 1: from earlier in the week, just talking about alcohol like

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Speaker 1: in public spaces. So just take a bit of a

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Speaker 1: listen to what he had to say. Let me just

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Speaker 1: make sure that I can actually play that.

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Speaker 2: Bear with me.

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Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen when they changed the Act, they removed

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Speaker 1: that it was a public offense, an offense to be

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Speaker 1: publicly drinking.

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Speaker 2: So you reckon, we're back there, You reckon, We need

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Speaker 2: to actually.

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Speaker 3: Do that during correct and now at the moment because

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Speaker 3: it's no longer an offense.

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Speaker 2: Vulnerable cohort aren't anything.

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Speaker 3: Up in the watchhouses anymore.

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Speaker 4: They're refusing to take the return flights that.

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Speaker 1: Lariki are off of them.

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Speaker 2: That is a good point to make. I'll put it

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Speaker 2: to our listeners.

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Speaker 1: You know, does it need to be an offense again

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Speaker 1: to drink publicly?

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Speaker 2: Should it be something that we are re looking into.

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Speaker 1: We need to disincentivize the behavior that everyone is seeing

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Speaker 1: on the streets. So have we got a situation in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory right now where it is no longer

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Speaker 1: an offense to drink in public?

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Speaker 5: That's incorrect, Katie.

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Speaker 8: I went back and looked at this, and we did

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Speaker 8: do a new liquor Act and replaced quite an antiquated act.

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Speaker 8: And I asked licensing and whether there had been any

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Speaker 8: changes to that effect. They couldn't identify any. In terms

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Speaker 8: of drinking in public, you cannot drink, as we know,

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Speaker 8: within two kilometers of a licensed premise. In terms of

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Speaker 8: there are some areas where there is local bylaws that

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Speaker 8: overrule that, so people can go down and watch a

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Speaker 8: sunset and have a drink. So but certainly in terms

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Speaker 8: of making sure that police and counsel, I think rangers

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Speaker 8: have got a really strong role to play in this,

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Speaker 8: making sure that people understand that there is accommodation for

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Speaker 8: them if they're in staying in town, and that our

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Speaker 8: public places need to be there for so it is

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Speaker 8: such a sense to drink.

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Speaker 7: There was a change law if it used to be

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Speaker 7: there was an offense for drinking within two kilometers. Now

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Speaker 7: you're saying it's not not allowed to But is it

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Speaker 7: in an offense if you get caught drinking within two

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Speaker 7: k's what's the penalty.

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Speaker 8: My understanding is there was no changes in that space

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Speaker 8: that it is still the same as it was previously

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Speaker 8: for many years in the territory.

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Speaker 5: If you drink within two kilometers of a last its premise.

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Speaker 2: So shouldn't we really have a situation where nobody's drinking

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Speaker 2: in the.

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Speaker 5: City, correct, Katie.

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Speaker 8: So there is some areas where there's bylaws, like I

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Speaker 8: can think of some along Nightcliff premises, Yeah, you can

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Speaker 8: drink from the jed D along to Chapman Road in Nightcliff.

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Speaker 5: There's some spaces at Eastport.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah, sod though when this is where rangers

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Speaker 8: do have that ability police obviously and so, but it's

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Speaker 8: also making sure that it's easy for those authorities to

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Speaker 8: implement those laws. Like you know, and this is something

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Speaker 8: when I go out and I talk to police and

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Speaker 8: on the beat with police. So these are the things

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Speaker 8: that we're continually looking at but in terms of the

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Speaker 8: comments that there was changes made with the liquor Act,

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Speaker 8: I went back and looked at that and couldn't say it.

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Speaker 1: Well, so I guess, you know, this is something that

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Speaker 1: realistically maybe should be getting enforced more more strictly. If

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Speaker 1: we if you are not meant to be drinking within

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Speaker 1: a two kilometer you know, radius of takeaway alcohol outlet, well,

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Speaker 1: that is certainly happening around the territory at the moment.

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Speaker 7: Understanding is that if you were caught drinking, you could

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Speaker 7: actually get arrested. Now that they can tip it out.

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Speaker 7: The police can tip out the alcohol, but you're not

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Speaker 7: actually arrested. It's not an offense to actually do it.

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Speaker 7: So but I could be wrong on police.

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Speaker 8: Do make and you know this Jared being a former

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Speaker 8: lawyer or current lawyer, but in a different career. Police

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Speaker 8: make those decisions. Authorities may cause decisions each and it,

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Speaker 8: but it's not for us to We're not out there

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Speaker 8: on the front of it. We're making sure that their

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Speaker 8: mechanisms are as robust and easy to use as possible.

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Speaker 2: And let's be honest, the police are under the pump.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot that they're dealing with at

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Speaker 2: the moment. But look, we are going to take a

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Speaker 2: bit of a brud.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the week that was, and we

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Speaker 1: have got Jared Mayley in the studio with us, We've

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Speaker 1: got Thomas Morgan, and we've got an attached to files

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Speaker 1: and we have obviously been talking about some of the

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Speaker 1: issues that we're experiencing around the.

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory at the moment.

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Speaker 1: But one of the one of the locations that we

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Speaker 1: did touch on during the last break is that of

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Speaker 1: what Air. Now, it's been a really interesting week, I

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Speaker 1: think you'd have to say in the sense that there's

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Speaker 1: been some significant housing announcements. You know, Kate Warden made

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Speaker 1: a very significant housing announcement earlier in the week about

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Speaker 1: the transferring of social housing to community housing providers. There

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Speaker 1: was then a couple of federal announcements when it came

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Speaker 1: to funding for public housing in remote communities. But then

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Speaker 1: the conversation yesterday on air was largely dominated by people saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, what about these homes that have been absolutely

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Speaker 1: destroyed in what Air thirty seven homes in the remote community,

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Speaker 1: leaving well hundreds of people without a place to live,

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Speaker 1: and some of the vision.

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Speaker 4: Yes, unbelievable out of what air at the moment is

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Speaker 4: just shocking.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know it's not a new thing for that township,

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Speaker 6: but it is something that I think the Northern Territory

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Speaker 6: government need to really start to be proactive on.

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Speaker 8: I know that.

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Speaker 6: I think Madison was talking yesterday about the work that

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Speaker 6: they'd done at sort of subdivisions and moving people to

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Speaker 6: sort of prevent this sort of flair outbursts of violence.

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Speaker 6: But has that worked and whether more needs to be

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Speaker 6: done now?

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Speaker 8: So what is a complex one and it's different traditional

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Speaker 8: owners coming together and Jared being a long term territory

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Speaker 8: and would get as well, and having been out there

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Speaker 8: multiple times. It's there's a different part of the community.

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Speaker 8: It's sort of across and away and that community members

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Speaker 8: have housing and there's more housing going in there.

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Speaker 5: But it's completely unacceptable what happened to mean people can.

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Speaker 8: Be charged if they're vandalized and destroyed public housing, that's

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Speaker 8: an offense.

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Speaker 5: They can be charged.

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Speaker 8: But these are incredibly complex issues working with the traditional

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Speaker 8: owners for that leadership in community to.

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Speaker 2: Tap it.

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Speaker 3: Because it's just unacceptable.

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Speaker 8: Im understanding that would be a question for the police minister.

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Speaker 8: But additional police resources have gone out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the TRG had gone out there, but

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Speaker 1: maybe I've read that wrong. I know that i'd seen

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Speaker 1: Territory Support Services Superintendent Sewan Gill on the news overnight.

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Speaker 1: But it does seem like it's a terrible situation right now.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, Folesy. We know that over the years

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Speaker 1: there has been unreached out there. I remember I started

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Speaker 1: my media career with the Northern Territory Police many many

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Speaker 1: years ago and remember traveling out there with the then

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Speaker 1: police Commissioner and he I'd sat down with the women

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Speaker 1: of the community talking about their concerns around violence and

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Speaker 1: and all sorts of different things. But there is no

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Speaker 1: doubt that you know that vision that we're saying. You

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Speaker 1: just think there's children that are out there, there are

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Speaker 1: families that are out there. We've got to make sure

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Speaker 1: people are safe. But I don't know exactly what you

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Speaker 1: can do.

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Speaker 7: And you know what really concerns me. People do seem

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Speaker 7: to think, oh, it's been happening for a while, it's

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Speaker 7: the norm.

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Speaker 3: It's just not the norm.

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Speaker 7: It's unacceptable and something needs to be done because you

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Speaker 7: imagine the family that who aren't involved in the violence

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Speaker 7: because there's a lot of people who live in Port

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Speaker 7: Keids who would see this and they would have nowhere

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Speaker 7: to live, they'd feel unsafe in the home.

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Speaker 3: Whover might be.

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Speaker 7: It just it just really shows that the whole, that

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Speaker 7: whole policy has failed out that area.

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Speaker 6: And it was my understanding too that the local Development

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Speaker 6: Corporation out there raised concerns last year they had asked

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Speaker 6: the Chief Minister to put together a sort of strategy

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Speaker 6: to deal with these sorts of tensions in the community

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Speaker 6: out and whatever. I don't believe we've seen any sort

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Speaker 6: of strategy from the Chief Minister's office, or from the

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Speaker 6: Policemaniser or from the police as to how to deal

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Speaker 6: with this apart from being reactive sending more police out

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Speaker 6: there when violence does.

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Speaker 8: So just on that we have been out there, we

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Speaker 8: hold a community cabinet out there and met with traditional owners,

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Speaker 8: local leadership, the women and children, and there certainly has

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Speaker 8: been placed looking at the different interagencies. So the school

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Speaker 8: up there's a Catholic school working with the local corporation

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Speaker 8: making sure there's a fantastic little recall and making sure

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Speaker 8: that there's activities because it's a big community, there's many

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Speaker 8: thousands of people and you need to make sure there's activities,

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Speaker 8: you know, working to get the pullback online things like that.

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Speaker 8: So there certainly has been that work undertaken. Whether it's

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Speaker 8: been published in a plan as such, but there's certainly

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Speaker 8: been work that's been centrally coordinated from the Department of

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Speaker 8: Chief Minister and Cabinet.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about more broadly about

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Speaker 1: some of our remote communities at the moment, because we

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Speaker 1: know that this situation with alcohol in communities is one

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Speaker 1: which is going to be The legislation is coming into

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Speaker 1: Parliament in the next two weeks or whenever parliament's sitting

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Speaker 1: in so it's going to be debated. So we've got

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Speaker 1: that situation right now with these liquor licenses on remote communities.

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Speaker 1: It's continuing to be discussed, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: But there are three indigenous groups who are calling on

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory government to immediately shelve this legislation that

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Speaker 1: could allow takeaway alcohol into more than four hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty community living areas, town camps and other small communities

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Speaker 1: from mid July. We caught up with AMSAZ John Patterson

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Speaker 1: earlier in the week, and he had said that there'd

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Speaker 1: been no consultation in this space.

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Speaker 2: We spoke about this earlier in the week. I was

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Speaker 2: really surprised.

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Speaker 1: I thought, based on our previous conversations that what was

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Speaker 1: going to happen is essentially communities would be dry unless

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Speaker 1: they opted in to have alcohol, whereas it seems it's

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Speaker 1: more a situation where everybody can have takeaway alcohol unless

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Speaker 1: they opt out.

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Speaker 8: So, Katie, there's two different parts to this, and we

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Speaker 8: spoke about this. The liquor licensing and a licensed club

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Speaker 8: or license venue still have to go through the territory processes,

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Speaker 8: so that just parked that for a minute. This we

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Speaker 8: had the Intervention under John Howard. It was then Stronger

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Speaker 8: Futures under Jenny Macklin, and that act did not comply

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Speaker 8: with the Racial Discrimination Act at a Commonwealth level. The

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Speaker 8: Commonwealth Stronger Futures legislation comes to an end in July

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Speaker 8: and there has been no you know, the common Wealth

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Speaker 8: are not continuing that. So what we have introduced is

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Speaker 8: a bill that would allow communities to opt in to

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Speaker 8: remain dry. We cannot make every community dry. That would

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Speaker 8: intersect with the Antidiscrimination Act. I believe, and certainly the

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Speaker 8: Racial Discrimination Act. So we're providing that pathway for communities

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Speaker 8: if they wish. It's up to them and local leadership

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Speaker 8: to decide. This is an incredibly complex space.

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Speaker 7: The Seal Peace support local decision making, So I want

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Speaker 7: to start and make that point. But effectively, the Labor

667
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Speaker 7: government have known this legislation is going to end in

668
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Speaker 7: July for ten years. That's how long it's been in force.

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Speaker 7: So where has the program has been put in place

670
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Speaker 7: to support these communities? Because I grog's going to start

671
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 7: running and there's going to be rivers of grog running

672
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Speaker 7: into these communities. We've already seen the alcohol problems that

673
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 7: happen out there now and if it gets worse, you

674
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Speaker 7: know what programs and what help have the Labor government

675
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 7: done to these communities in the pre planning to fix that.

676
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Speaker 7: Because we know it's going to happen in July, John

677
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Speaker 7: in a number of months away, we've known about this

678
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Speaker 7: date for ten years. So my question is what is

679
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Speaker 7: the Labor government done to actually get ready for this?

680
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Speaker 7: And I think the answer is nothing.

681
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Speaker 8: Well, there's been an enormous body of work done and

682
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Speaker 8: you can see that through there's been a number of

683
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Speaker 8: communities that have taken alcohol management plans to the Commonwealth

684
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Speaker 8: because they had to be approved by the Federal Minister

685
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Speaker 8: for Indigenous Affairs, so it was sentert to Nigel Scullion

686
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Speaker 8: and then Ken White and so you have seen different

687
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 8: communities come forward with their olcohol management plan and some

688
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 8: of them do want license venues in those clubs, but

689
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Speaker 8: under the legislation nothing could happen. So this has been

690
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Speaker 8: something that communities have been looking at and there has

691
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Speaker 8: been communities recently Barunga for example, did get their alcohol

692
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 8: management plan and their lequal license it came through. So

693
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Speaker 8: it is a transitional period, but we are providing that

694
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Speaker 8: opportunity for communities to opt in and remain dry.

695
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Speaker 6: And the assessment though that just Into Price made that

696
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Speaker 6: it will open the floodgates.

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Speaker 4: Is that a legitimate So.

698
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Speaker 8: The question I would ask back to just Enterprices, would

699
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Speaker 8: she like to continue the suspension of the Racial Discrimination

700
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Speaker 8: Act and have a paternalistic policy where we say no

701
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Speaker 8: alcohol in these communities.

702
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Speaker 5: We're putting that place there for them, but they have

703
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Speaker 5: to opt in.

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Speaker 8: We have to have as we just heard from Jered

705
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Speaker 8: that local decision making leadership are you worried.

706
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Speaker 1: Though about and I did ask you this earlier in

707
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Speaker 1: the week, are you concerned about the fact that every

708
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Speaker 1: community will be able to have that takeaway alcohol and

709
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Speaker 1: are we going to have the support networks in those communities,

710
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Speaker 1: you know, enough medical stuff, enough police in some different

711
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Speaker 1: communities to be able to deal with that. I know

712
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Speaker 1: that the Police Association had said earlier in the week

713
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Speaker 1: that they're concerned.

714
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Speaker 8: So we've been actively working with police because it means

715
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Speaker 8: it's not that takeaway alcohol will suddenly be available in

716
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Speaker 8: the communities now people can take it there because it

717
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 8: won't be a dry committee unless they opt in. So

718
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Speaker 8: this is a change in policy. But we do not

719
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Speaker 8: believe in continuing a race based policy and suspending the

720
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Speaker 8: Racial Discrimination Act.

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Speaker 5: We don't have that ability anyway. So the Commonwealth is

722
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Speaker 5: not I mean, you.

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Speaker 8: Read a question for the common crisis. Absolutely the intervention

724
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Speaker 8: and stronger futures. It is well documented that it you know,

725
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Speaker 8: there was complaints that went to the United Nations about

726
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Speaker 8: that piece of legislation that is ending the Commonwealth. I mean,

727
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Speaker 8: it's a question for Comwealth representatives, but no one's indicated

728
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Speaker 8: that they're going to continue that. So what we're doing

729
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Speaker 8: is in a legislative framework allowing community. So take the

730
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Speaker 8: community of Nookah for example, they can opt in and

731
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Speaker 8: remain dry. They may at some point say actually, we'd

732
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Speaker 8: like to have a license venue. Because there is and

733
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Speaker 8: this is a complex issue. There are the communities where

734
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Speaker 8: licensed venues work and there are communities where it's head designers.

735
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Speaker 3: You've got a plan. If someone wants to opt in

736
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Speaker 3: remain how do they do that?

737
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Speaker 1: So that is what the.

738
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Speaker 5: Legislation is jar and I look forward to our debates

739
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Speaker 5: and that's what the legislation.

740
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Speaker 8: That hasn't so the Department of Chief Minister and Cabinet

741
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Speaker 8: has been This has been a conversation that's been continuing

742
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Speaker 8: for some time. Formal letters went out. My understanding is

743
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Speaker 8: this week, once the legislation passes a community, that community

744
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Speaker 8: makes a decision and they opt in for up to

745
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Speaker 8: two years, and they may only opt in for six months,

746
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 8: and then the community might decide note they just want

747
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 8: to continue that, or they might decide actually, rather than

748
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 8: people you know, drinking with secondary supply leaving community, we

749
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Speaker 8: want to control it. And there's some really good examples

750
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Speaker 8: of licensed venues and in remote steals and absolutely, Katie

751
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Speaker 8: what you said nursing police, it can be an absolute

752
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Speaker 8: night way.

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Speaker 7: For about on liquorac there's restricted areas in place before

754
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Speaker 7: this legislation. As those restricted areas are they still going

755
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Speaker 7: to be restricted areas under the Liquor Act.

756
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Speaker 8: I have to take that question on notice, and I'm

757
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Speaker 8: sure you'll ask me in the committee stage. But this

758
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Speaker 8: legislation that's been introduced so sitting on the notice paper

759
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Speaker 8: will be debated in the main sittings.

760
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Speaker 5: I assume it will pass with the support of my colleagues.

761
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Speaker 8: It will then allow in July when the stronger future sunsets,

762
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Speaker 8: when it just goes that a community can opt in

763
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Speaker 8: and remain a dry community for the period of time

764
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Speaker 8: that they choose.

765
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Speaker 7: That's who concerns me. We're talking to know that this

766
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Speaker 7: is going to end in thirty June for a number

767
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Speaker 7: of years. I'll just asked you a question about whether

768
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Speaker 7: the restrict areas apply. You see you going to take

769
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Speaker 7: that on notice. We're only number of months ago and

770
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Speaker 7: you don't answer a question all that, So how the

771
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Speaker 7: community understand what's going on likek into it? If you

772
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Speaker 7: can't answer that question now and you're a health minister

773
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Speaker 7: and you're the alcohol policy minister. I know we're going

774
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Speaker 7: to debate it and I accept that. But our debate

775
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 7: in Parliament will be a debate. But how the information

776
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 7: going to flow under these community can make a decision

777
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Speaker 7: Because the next question is if they're going to have

778
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Speaker 7: a meeting and there's one hundred people vote and fifty

779
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 7: one says yes we want to opt in or opt out?

780
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Speaker 7: What about the forty nine that don't want it? Has

781
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Speaker 7: all that going to well?

782
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Speaker 8: Raised the point I think that you're alcohol across our community.

783
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Speaker 8: I don't think it's an issue that just sits.

784
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Speaker 2: To a bridge.

785
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Speaker 3: Alcohol can't just fish my point.

786
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Speaker 8: There's people in downtown Darwin that goes, you know what,

787
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Speaker 8: I'd rather not have alcohol.

788
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: It causes so much harm. But there's other people that

789
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Speaker 5: are entitled.

790
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Speaker 8: It's illegal drugs, so we have to accept that and

791
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Speaker 8: it's about providing a legislative framework that is the safest possible.

792
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Speaker 1: Have you had any indication at this point in time

793
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Speaker 1: as to whether there are going to be communities that

794
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Speaker 1: are deciding that they want to stay dry.

795
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Speaker 8: So, Katie, there's around four hundred and it goes from

796
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Speaker 8: town camps to outstations, so they can be very small

797
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 8: areas just ten people through to the quite large remote communities.

798
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Speaker 8: So in terms there is a range of views. Some

799
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Speaker 8: people don't want to have see our coole come in

800
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Speaker 8: and others you know, looking forward to the opportunity to

801
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Speaker 8: explore a liquor license and provide it.

802
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Speaker 6: And so these communities can they indicate that they want

803
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Speaker 6: to opt out or opt in before this legislation comes

804
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Speaker 6: into force.

805
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 8: Correct, that's the work that we're doing now because it

806
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 8: will have obviously you know, in terms of an impact

807
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Speaker 8: on the ability of government services.

808
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: So we're getting that understand So.

809
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Speaker 6: When the Commonwealth legislation sunsets, it can mean it won't

810
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Speaker 6: be a free for all. It won't be like then

811
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Speaker 6: they've got to start the process of opting in.

812
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Speaker 8: Or so it's we're working, sorry to cut you off

813
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 8: their time, we're working to go from that legislation would

814
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 8: cease and then this and t legislation would commence and

815
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Speaker 8: they can seamlessly go through that. All right, there will

816
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Speaker 8: be communities that don't knoped in and we you know,

817
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 8: this is a challenge on this and yeah, and I.

818
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Speaker 2: Think this is the thing, you know, that it needs

819
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Speaker 2: to be something that is community led.

820
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Speaker 1: If they're in a situation where they want to be

821
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Speaker 1: dry or want to stay dry, then that should be

822
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Speaker 1: a decision that they can make. Particularly, you know when

823
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Speaker 1: you talk about the safety of women and children. I

824
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: think it's really very important. But we will take a

825
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: very short break. You are listening to mix on O

826
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Speaker 1: four point nine is three sixty. When we come back,

827
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Speaker 1: I'm keen to talk about this discussion about a stadium

828
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Speaker 1: in the studio with me. We've got Natanja Files, Thomas

829
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: Morgan and Jared Mayley.

830
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Speaker 2: Well, every time we'll go that North.

831
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Speaker 1: Queen saying Cowboy Cowboys, it's certainly yeah, certainly will and

832
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: I believe Sam Higgins George who does our news in

833
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: the morning, se was telling me that they both had

834
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Speaker 1: when they've played against each other, twenty wins on each side.

835
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: So each team, when they've played against each other over

836
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: the years, twenty wins on each side.

837
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Speaker 2: So it is going to be a tight match, I reckon,

838
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: but go the Cowboys.

839
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: Paramedic to come on top.

840
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 6: We know that I know they're not.

841
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's talk about footy, but probably of a different

842
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: kind because this stadium Tom, you have been covering this

843
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: quite extensively throughout the week. You obtained a copy of

844
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: the Darwin Stadium Advocacy Doccupent prepared by Price Waterhouse Coopers,

845
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: which raised the prospect that this stadium could play a

846
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: role in hosting events for the twenty thirty two Brisbane

847
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Olympic Games, various other things, but of course AFL and.

848
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: Monster Trucks as well.

849
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 6: That was one other thing that brought up Southeast Asian

850
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 6: Football and the Indian Premier League as well. So there's

851
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 6: lots of potential opportunities that Sean Bowden from the AFLNT

852
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 6: has obviously been working on this for quite a while

853
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 6: and he basically told me this week that you know,

854
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 6: this advocacy document had been completed, the enthusiasm that they

855
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 6: had been getting from I guess various stakeholder groups. They

856
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: were saying, look, could even move into the into the

857
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 6: business case phase pretty soon, in which case then they

858
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 6: can take it to various governments such as the Northern

859
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 6: Territory government, such as the federal government and apply for funding.

860
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Speaker 4: So it's a very exciting proposal.

861
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 6: I just I guess will map It depends on if

862
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: there's anyone up there in Canberra or in the anti

863
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: government who are willing to put money toward it well.

864
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: And he's sort of indicated to me that if there

865
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Speaker 1: was private investment that that would go a long way.

866
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Speaker 1: Kate Warden, when I asked her about this yesterday, she

867
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: said that we were sort of putting the cart before

868
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: the horse in the sense that we need to have

869
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: a Northern Territory.

870
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: AFL team first. But you know, I don't know.

871
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Look, I just the thing that I always think to

872
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: myself is where are we getting the money from.

873
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 7: I think that's great idea, a business case. I think

874
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 7: it's a great idea to have it, there's no question.

875
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 7: But we're need a business case because you know all

876
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 7: want to go and buy McGain as well.

877
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: But can you afford it? That's the big question. You

878
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: already that's for sure.

879
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 7: Eight billion dollars worth of debt or you know, but

880
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 7: it's the government's going to pop it on and put

881
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 7: money on it. I don't know, but we need to

882
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 7: get that business case because we can't have if you

883
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 7: can't afford it.

884
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 8: And what I can say is the territory is really

885
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 8: well placed in terms of international sports and events because

886
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 8: of our locality, so when you look towards the subcontinent

887
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 8: and the television market that's there, we're on a similar

888
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 8: time zone, the same with Southeast Asia, like that East

889
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 8: Coast time zone just pushes them out of the picture.

890
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 8: So you know, there is exciting times ahead in terms

891
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 8: of the territory for events, but we do need to

892
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 8: make sure we've got the business case. And you know,

893
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 8: that AFL team for the territory something that's been long

894
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 8: talked about.

895
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: That's right, it's been a It certainly has, but also

896
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: hasn't Tasmania they're about to get their own AFL team,

897
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: aren't they. So there it would make things uneven. They

898
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: need another AFL team surely, and it should be.

899
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 8: The territory in a letter and send it to the

900
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 8: AFL will for just because it's uneven.

901
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 5: It should be the territory U.

902
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we don't want to.

903
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 7: We want to make sure that if there's any tax

904
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 7: payers money going this, it needs to make sure the

905
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 7: government due there due dilliens. We don't want to that

906
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 7: ten million dollar water bottle for Nut's goo or a

907
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 7: fifty six mill dollar prawn problem. If it's going to

908
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 7: go and put money in it. We need to make

909
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 7: sure it's going to work, because if it's good, good.

910
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: As to it.

911
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 6: And there were some people this week saying, oh, why

912
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 6: don't we spend the money on housing or on the

913
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 6: hospital system, And my root response to that would be,

914
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 6: it's not an either or proposition. We should be lobbying

915
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 6: camera for every dollar we can get. I think that

916
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 6: a stadium in Darwin, CBD would pay itself off running

917
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 6: for parliament. I just think that deserves a prominent stadium

918
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 6: that sort of brings the city together.

919
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: It's true territory, Nay, it's interesting discussions. And just to

920
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: go back to my Cowboys, we know that they're not

921
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: in North queenso we know that when you know when

922
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: North queenso when that for when that team was first created,

923
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: what it did for North Queensland was enormous and what

924
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: it did for junior.

925
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: Football was absolutely outstanding.

926
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: And they have been in a situation now where they've

927
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: obviously built another stadium and it's and it's fantastic for

928
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: the region. But I do wonder, you know, I'm sort

929
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: of on the side of the fence where I think

930
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: I reckon we need to lock in that team before

931
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: we go ahead and build a stadium so that it

932
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: gets used enough.

933
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 6: At AFL and Tire also saying it's not just the

934
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 6: stadium that they want. They also want if this stadium

935
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: is to be built, they also want funding for facilities

936
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 6: in remote communities, change rooms for both boys and girls,

937
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: lighting new fields properly grassed, and water and all that.

938
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: So it's not just let's build a massive stadium in

939
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: dial and leave everywhere else well.

940
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: We need change rooms for boys and girls.

941
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: Under the Northern Territory government's new policy when it comes

942
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: to those kinds of things, Tom.

943
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: It was remember a couple of weeks ago, that was

944
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: certainly what we were discussing.

945
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: But this is, you know, it is very interesting to

946
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: see exactly what is going to going to happen if

947
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: it goes ahead.

948
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

949
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 7: You remember, if I build the stadium, there's got to

950
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 7: be a whole lot of infrastructure around that stadium. We

951
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 7: don't have any public transport here that works effectively, and

952
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 7: they're going to be you know, thirty forty thousand people

953
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 7: filing to a stadium where they're going to stay, how

954
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 7: they're going to get there. All those infrastructure problems need

955
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 7: to be they talked it down before. I'm just I'm

956
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 7: just don't want tax post only to be a wasted out.

957
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 7: The prawn farm fifty six million dollars gone, ten million

958
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 7: dollars in the ward bottle.

959
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: Industry gone, So we need to there is no doubt

960
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: that actually benefit to the charity, not a burden.

961
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got to do your home talking about sport

962
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 8: Katie tomorrow night the darl and salties as well getting underway.

963
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: Well, look we'll take a really quick break and then

964
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: we might come back and and we'll find out what

965
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: is happening for the weekend. You are listening to Mix

966
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: one O four nine's three six. Well, we have just

967
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: about run out of time. But in the studio with

968
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: us the Health Minister and Attasha Files, Thomas Morgan from

969
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the NT News and the Deputy Opposition leader Jared Maylee Filesy,

970
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: I've got a question here, Hi, Katie and team, could

971
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: you ask the Health Minister if local labor members have

972
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: been asked to distance themselves from the federal candidates.

973
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: You must have.

974
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 7: I'll get a picture for you their own bat. I'm

975
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 7: pretty sure what the you're doing off their own bat.

976
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: Have you been asked to campaign jered with the candidates.

977
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: I've been out with Tena McFarlane. I've been out with

978
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: Damien the.

979
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: Whole picture.

980
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Yesterday.

981
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 5: What's his thoughts on.

982
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: I haven't been with him yet.

983
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 8: Changing me.

984
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to kick out the moment.

985
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: Change he might come on the time this weekend my understanding.

986
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: There you go, Well, should be interesting. Everybody's here and

987
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, Tom, it's not even the dry

988
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: season yet.

989
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: In fact, it's pretty warm. But there is going to

990
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: be a cracking weekend. There is so much on.

991
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: We've got the NRL, We've got the salties that so

992
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: they've got their first game.

993
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, really exciting NBO one that Darwin salties men's and

994
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 8: women's teams. There's tickets still available, there's some general emission tickets,

995
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 8: but should be really great out at Marara.

996
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: Just fantastic.

997
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 8: Darwin can feel like a you know, some of those

998
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 8: capital cities into state with multiple sports on level, so awesome.

999
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: Awesome stuff. Well that's it for us this morning. I

1000
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: mean I've still got to do another two hours.

1001
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: And that's it for the week.

1002
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 6: That was.

1003
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: Thank you all so very much for your time, and

1004
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: we'll catch you again next week. Thank you.