1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, my next guest is the most famous name in 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: the country today. She's a film director, a writer. She's 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: the founder of Body Image Movement, which is on a 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: quest to when the global body hating epidemic and this 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: is one of her quotes too, to work to put 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: an end to body loathing and spread the message of 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: body loving. Yesterday she was named Australian of the Year. 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: We're talking, of course, of Tarran Brumfit Tarran, Hello, Hello, 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: good morning. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: Congratulations you oh, thank you. You know how you're bodybuilding? 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: When you did that, I'm just asking how much could 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: you bench press? 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Ha ha haha. Do you know? I feel like a 15 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: fraud And when anyone brings up bodybuilding, guys, I did 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: it for ten weeks. It didn't make me a bodybuilder. 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: I did eat a lot of chicken and broccoli, I 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: will say that, but you know what it was. It 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: was a social experiment to discover how would I feel 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: if I could train my body to get the perfect body? 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: And the results were something that I didn't anticipate, and 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: that was, oh, I'm not doing this for the rest 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: of my life. I can't punish my body and chain 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: twice a day and eat these foods and restrict myself 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: and that's when everything changed for me in my body image. 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. In twenty thirteen, you posted 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: an extraordinary photo. Well, it's only extraordinary because of the 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: impact it had. It was seen by one hundred million people. 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: It was a before and after, but rather than normal 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: body first, body build a second, you showed it the 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: other way around and it had such an impact. 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're so used to seeing those four photos where 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: there's a woman or a man in a larger body 34 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: and they're really sad and guess what, they lose weight 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: and miraculously they're happy in the after. And what we 36 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: don't actually see is the cycle that they're on with dieting. 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I always say diet is a four letter 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: word in the first three letters fell diet. It's a 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: vicious cycle, and it's one that I took myself off 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: and I learned to move and nourish, respect and enjoy 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 1: my body, my body in other ways and really focus 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: on how it felt as opposed to being obsessed about 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: how it looked. And it's like waiting the golden ticket. 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: And that's why I've been doing the work I've been 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: doing for the last ten years. 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: Because you founded the Body Image movement back in twenty twelve, 47 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: and you've had some documentaries as well out there, so 48 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: you're really making some big in rights here. 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. We released the first film, Embrace in twenty sixteen 50 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: and that film beat Guardians of the Galaxy and King 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Arthur at the box office in Germany and it was 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: seen in one hundred and ninety countries and I'm really 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: proud of that film. We also know because academics from 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: the universities did a global study that was published in 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: a medical journal that said by watching that film, you're 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: actually more likely to experience a higher appreciation of your body. 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: So yes to that film. That was really great. We 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: released Embraced Kids and that's coming to all schools across 59 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Australia this year and I'm so focused on getting this 60 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: right for our kids because they're suffering. 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: So what practically can we do? We all know, Taran 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: that this is a falsehood to worry so much about 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: our bodies like this, but what practically can we do 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: to not be like that? 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, it's really about focusing on the functionality of 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: our bodies. Celeste Barber does a really good job in 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: embraced kids. When she talks about you know, how I 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: look is part B. The focus is on how I feel. 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: We can also reframe, so we can also not like 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: parts of our body and learn to find gratitude for them. 71 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: You know my legs, you know cellulate stretch marks. Didn't 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: love them, They've run two marathons. I'm pretty grateful for 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: the things that they do, or the hiking or the 74 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: dancing that I did last night. We've just got to 75 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: find the parts of our body, reframe, find the gratitude 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: and also remind ourselves that we're not here to spend 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: our life at wards our body. We've got twenty eight 78 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: thousand days on the planet, if we're lucky, lot of time. 79 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Why don't we not waste them and focus on what's important. 80 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to live with that thing and the 81 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: implications home. 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: You're only going to get one as well. So your 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: body is your body and you've got it for life, 84 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: so you must be friends with it. 85 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: I saw a comment that Mike Carton made last night 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: where he said for Australian of the Year, I'd like 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: someone who works in intensive care or deals with COVID 88 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: not someone who makes a buck out of saying it's 89 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: okay to be a bit fat. Talk about underestimating the 90 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: impact of this on our bodies, on our mental health, 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: and on our society because the implications of this, as 92 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: you say, it's an epidemic. 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sure is, and you know what, people are 94 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: entitled to their opinions, but we also have a choice 95 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: to ignore it. And I'm here to do good in 96 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: the world and I'm really discerning about where I put 97 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: my energy, and that energy is with our kids. Seventy 98 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: percent of Australian school children consider body image to be 99 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: their number one concern, and we now know that kids 100 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: dissatisfied with their bodies are twenty four times more likely 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: to be depressed and have anxiety. But I don't want 102 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: to put the despair into the hearts of your listeners today, 103 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: because the good news is we know what to do. 104 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: We've got the solutions. And that's because I'm hanging around 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: with them are really smart academics, doctor Zalie Jaeger and 106 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: a team of clinicians, and it's science meets creativity, and 107 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: it's the Embraced Kids doco, and it's the curriculum and 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: it's coming to Ozzie this year, so we're super excited. 109 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: You're making big and roads there, Tarran. Good on you, 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: congratulations Australian of the Year. This is great and to 111 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: check out more about what Tarran's up to, check out 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 3: the Bodyimage Movement dot com. Tarran Brumfitt, thank you for 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: joining us. 114 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. 115 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Tarran.