1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, the Prime Minister slam for 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: attending Kyle Sandaland's wedding, Sophia Beg apologizes for dressing up 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: as the stingray that killed Steve Irwin, and millionaire podcaster 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Alex Cooper gets engaged in her trackies. Hello and welcome 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert, and 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm coming to the podcast again with a harroring story, 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: which is deeply embarrassing. I feel like I'm the only 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: one that brings these sorts of stories to the table. 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: What if you're done this time, because last time we 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: heard from you, you'd bled all over the hairdressers seat 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: and then you also wore shorts inside out at Audi. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Well that was a while ago. Well it actually is 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: in relation to the period's story. It kind of connects 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: with that story. So I still actually don't know how 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: it happened. So Brandon left for work early in the 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: morning and I cought this phone call and he says, 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: there is a pad attached to your car. I don't 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: know what's going on, And I said, has it fallen out? 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Out of the bin because I was on my period. 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: I said, if someone stuck it to my car, what 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: is going on? How disgusting. He's like, I don't think 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: it's been used. So I rushed downstairs and yeah, there's 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: this clean pad just attached to the side door of 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: my car. So that would have been my worry that 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: it was used, Like it would have been way worse. 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: Wait, I want to know how long have you been 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: driving along with. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: This pad stut to your car. I don't know because 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: I have been keeping a pad in my handbag ever 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: since this period incident happened. And when I was out 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: on a walk with Archie, I ran out of bags 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: to pick up Pooh, so I grabbed the pad out. 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I took helf the wrapper and used that to pick 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: up the Pooh instead. So I don't know how this 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: pad has then become out of my bag and attached 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: to the car. Oh, so I thought you meant that 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: you use the pad to pick up I's happen. I'm like, 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: that's even more embarrassing than having a pad on your car. 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: I would have made more sense than using the pad wrap, 41 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: but that's not much protection. Oh, I didn't want to 42 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: waste the pad very much. Well, I mean it has 43 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: been consequently wasted now, but I think I must have 44 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: been driving around on it at least from my walk 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: to home, so rather embarrassing. And you live in a 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: group of townhouses, so I feel like your neighbors would 47 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: have seen it. Oh, it was embarrassing too, because we 48 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: have a group of young guys who live next door 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: and they're constantly in and out, so I'm sure there 50 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: were a few raised eyebrows. But it's off the car now, so. 51 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: Some chit chat behind the scenes. At the wedding, everyone 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: was like going on, oh, the Prime minister's there in 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: these underworld figures. By the way, none of these people 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: have ever been charged. Are the best man did do it? 55 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: The best men did do a four year stint in 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: an Italian jail. 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi has been slammed for attending the 58 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: lavish wedding of controversial shock jock Kyle Sandalands. Among the 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: bridal party were a convicted drug smuggler and an underworld figure. 60 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Albo defended his decision, saying he wasn't in charge of 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: the guest list. Now, before we get into it, we 62 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: need to set the scene. This wedding has been trending 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: on social media, partly due to the staggering cost. Yeah, 64 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: that's right. The wedding is reported to have cost the 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: couple more than one million dollars, and it did take 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: place at the extravagant Swift's mansion in Sydney's Darling Point. Now, 67 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: let's break down some of the costs which are being reported. 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: The first is that the couple enlisted the help of 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: a wedding stylist who charged two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that covers the cost of some of those 71 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: incredible chandeliers that seemed to be everywhere at the reception. 72 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: It had a very kardashian esque vive from ten years ago. Yeah, 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: it seemed to read twenty ten, almost a throwback to 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: Kyle's former wedding to Tara from Popstars. I thought it 75 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: looked incredible. I thought the flowers looked amazing. You could 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: see where the money had gone to. They want to 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: look amazing. They cost one hundred and fifty round, but 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: it did. 79 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: I thought it looked stunning. 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: I think I just wasn't a fan of the chandeliers 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: and the white. I just thought it was too much white. 82 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: There wasn't any anything else popping. Now, another big cost 83 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: was the photographer and videographer, which cost eighty thousand dollars. 84 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: That's making me feel better about my own wedding budget. Now. 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Kyle's wife tig and she did look absolutely stunning and 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: her dress was from Michelle Mason, which reportedly cost around 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. See, I'm not as shocked about the 88 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: dress because I feel like for these big celebrity weddings 89 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: they're going to wear a really expensive dress. But the 90 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: other costs do surprise me a lot. Yeah. The three 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: cost meal is said to have cost the couple seventy 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, whilst the five tier custom cake cost 93 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: nine four hundred dollars. I wonder when you're invited to 94 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a wedding like this, what you do with the wishing 95 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: well like you because normally you're meant to be Oh 96 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: how much does it cost per head? Oh? Shit, if 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: you do the maths, there was around one hundred and 98 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: thirty guests there, so if it's seventy five thousand just 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: on food, that's about five hundred and seventy six dollars 100 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: per guest. Well, that's not even including the alcohol, so 101 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: normally you would include that in your wishing well cost. 102 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: I'd be very interested to know what Albo gave us 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: a gift. That would be fascinating. I wonder whether we'll 104 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: find that out later. Now, with so many famous faces 105 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: and obviously politicians at the event, Kyle revealed that he 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: spent one hundred and twenty thousand dollars on security, which 107 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: included fifteen private guards and members of the New South 108 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: Wales and Federal Police Force. I did hear the intern 109 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Peak made a joke at the wedding and said that 110 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: those federal police officers they weren't actually there to protect Albo. 111 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: They were actually there for John Ibrahim. I don't know 112 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: how well that went down, but I can see why 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: they did have the private security guards because there was 114 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: media just. 115 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 2: Outside this wedding. 116 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: They were camped out there all day. 117 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: I saw Jackie O walk in. She was actually running 118 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: late to the wedding. 119 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: She looked stunning. Oh, she did, looked amazing. So she 120 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: walked in with their daughter Kitty, and it was she 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: was just hounded by press. You can see why they 122 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: were there. You've got the Prime Minister. You've also got 123 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: these underworld figures, these criminals as everyone's been calling them. 124 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: You've also got the A list pop stars who performed 125 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: for free at Kyle's wedding. So there was Guy Sebastian, 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: Samantha Jade, and also Conrad Siel. I don't know if 127 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: Guy Sebastian performed for free, because apparently Kyle said he 128 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: was amazing, but he cost a bit, so whether they 129 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: first initially said they'd perform for free. Well, he did 130 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: perform their first dance song, and it looked like he 131 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: had sort of a concert there. He was singing a 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: lot of his hits. Did anyone see the first dance 133 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: on TikTok? The comments were turned off, which was indicative 134 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: of my thoughts because I thought a lot of people 135 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: might be saying it looked rather awkward. See that. That 136 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: was the most relatable part of the wedding for me, 137 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: because that's how I feel. I'll be very wooden like that. 138 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: It was. It was a bit awkward. I think it's 139 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: bad when there's not one person in the couple who 140 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: is leading strong dance. I was like begging people to 141 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: come up and enjoy dancing. I quite like that. I 142 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: can't imagine Kyle and Teagan breaking out into an Olivia 143 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Rogers justin McKee and styled first Dance. Now, how did 144 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: you guys feel though about this lavish wedding because we 145 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: are in the midst of a cost of living crisis. 146 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it is very on brand for Kyle to 147 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: have something really extravagant like this, But did it make 148 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: you feel a bit uncomfortable? I feel like it's the 149 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: same argument around when the Kardashians ever do anything. We've 150 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: got to remember Kyle as well as Jackie O are 151 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: the biggest radio presenters in Australia and the most well paid, 152 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: so probably the biggest media earners in the conte. It 153 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you've got to spend a meal web does 154 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: it just mean that he can't have the wedding he 155 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: wants because other people are going through a cost of 156 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: leaving crimes, or that people feel uncomfortable with some of 157 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: these numbers that are being thrown around, whether he's put 158 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: those numbers out there or if the media is picked 159 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: up on them, like you know, spending one hundred and 160 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars on flowers when some people are being 161 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: kicked out of their rentals, they can't afford to buy it. 162 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: But do we hold Kyle Sanderlans as the reason as 163 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to why there is crisis? Like, I just find it 164 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: weird when people blame others, Like, yes, it was tone deaf, 165 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: But I also feel like people spend a lot of 166 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: money on weddings in general, even if they're not ultra wealthy. 167 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: If you look at the demographic who listen to the 168 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Kyle and Jackie O Show, they're generally your tradees, truckies, 169 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: They're sort of Aussie battlers who generally listen, and a 170 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: lot of them wanted to hear all these details about 171 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Kyle's wedding. I don't think that they were offended. It's 172 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: sort of this form of escapism for them. I think 173 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: we're at a point where we know celebrities are going 174 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: to put a lot of money into their weddings. Yeah, 175 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: and as you said, so for you asked the question, 176 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Kyle spoke about a lot of the costs involved with 177 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: the wedding. He put these figures out there, and I'm 178 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: assuming he did so because they're good conversation starters for radio, 179 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: and he always brags about his wealth it's kind of 180 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: his well, it's on brand for him. Yeah. What wasn't 181 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: on brand was the fact that Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi 182 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: and also nearly appointed New South Wales Premier Chris Mins 183 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: both attended this wedding and they faced a lot of 184 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: criticism for it, and he may be wondering how this 185 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: all came about. So last year, in the lead up 186 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: to the election, Albo appeared on the Carl and JACKIEO 187 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Show and they were having a bit of fun about 188 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: Kyle's upcoming wedding and Kyl and JACKIEO threw it to 189 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: him and said will you DJ at the wedding? Because 190 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: Albo has a past history of djaying, So I think 191 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: it was like a bit of a joke. And I 192 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: suppose Albo was like, oh, well, you know if I 193 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: got elected, because at the time, Kyle and JACKIEO were 194 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: very pro scomo and I think he was really trying 195 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: to get in with their audience. Yeah. Now, in the 196 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: days leading up to the wedding, there was a lot 197 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: of speculation around whether Albo would attend the wedding and 198 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: if he would DJ at the event. However, on Saturday morning, 199 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: hours before the wedding. He put the rumors to bed, 200 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: confirming he would be attending, but it would not be 201 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: getting on the decks that night. I found it weird 202 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: because I felt like he was using the fact that 203 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: he had promised to dj at the wedding as an 204 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: excuse for actually attending the wedding. And then all of 205 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, no, I'm not djaying, but I'm 206 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: gold because he said, oh, I keep my promise to 207 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: Kyle like I would keep to the rest of the community. 208 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: Let's throw to what he said in the press conference. 209 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: Are you really going to be djaying a radio shop 210 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: jocks wedding with question for video. 211 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not in charge of the invite list. I 212 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: was invited by Kyle Sandalans to his wedding, which is 213 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: taking place tomorrow in Sydney. I accepted that invitation and 214 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: I intend to attend. Kyle Sandalans is someone who's a 215 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: significant figure. And one of the things about Kyl's Salans, 216 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: I'll say this, a bloke who at one stage was 217 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: homeless living on the straits of Sydney and has grown 218 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: into someone who is a significant public figure, is a 219 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 4: part of what is an Australian success story. I was 220 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: invited to the wedding, I said I would go, and 221 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: I keep my commitments, including to Kyle Sanderlands. 222 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: A strange hill to die on that he's keeping his 223 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: promise to Kyle Sandalans despite the huge media speculation that 224 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: surrounded it. You can see his PR team would have 225 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: been like, shit, we're going to look bad if we 226 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: say no, because then the Liberal Party is going to 227 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: focus on the fact that Albo doesn't keep his promises. However, 228 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: the alternative I think was far worse in terms of 229 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: public relations because so many people have slammed him for 230 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: actually a tangent. Yeah. Well, the controversy is really centered 231 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: around the fact that Kyle's bridehal party included convicted drug 232 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: smuggler Simon Maine and former kings Cross nightclub owner John Ibrahim. Now, 233 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, Simon Maine was jailed in 234 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: Italy in two thousand for his role in a drug operation, 235 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: whilst John Ibrahim is described by his own book publisher 236 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: as Australia's most notorious underworld figure. There's a new show 237 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: that's coming out about his life. And as you heard 238 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: in that grab, when he was questioned about why he 239 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: was attending, he said that he wasn't in charge of 240 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: the guest list. What do you think about the prime 241 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: minister rubbing shoulders with this sort of clientele of people. 242 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: I find it very interesting that he said he's not 243 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: in charge of the guest list, because when I was 244 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: working at the thirty six As, we would invite the 245 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: premiere to attend the event, and there was a lot 246 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: of paperwork you'd have to fill out in order to 247 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: get him there. You had to list who was going, 248 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: all these different requirements, run security and entry points. So 249 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: I find it very perplexing that he wouldn't have been 250 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: clued up on who was attending this wedding. It's well 251 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: known that John Ibrahim is Kyle Sandland's best friend, so 252 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: he was always going to be in attendance. I think 253 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: it comes down to the fact that Kyle is extremely 254 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: powerful full in the media, so for Albo to be 255 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: on Kyle's side definitely helps him. I just don't think 256 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: that the Prime Minister of this country should be partying 257 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: with drug traffickers and underworld figures. He is the leader 258 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: of this country and who he chooses to associate with, 259 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: says A lot about him. It just seems really weird 260 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: to me that he's pimping himself out as this DJ. 261 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: It seems like he's just really wanting to be liked. 262 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't DJ that, yeah, but he was 263 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: pimping himself out as the DJ. Can you imagine if 264 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Scott Morrison appeared at Kyle's wedding and played his ukuleae, 265 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: he probably would have been there. You've got to understand though, 266 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: in the context of Albo mentioning the fact he was 267 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: a DJ when he was on the Kyle and Jackie 268 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: Oe Show, both Scomo and Albo were joking around because 269 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: that's the sort of audience like they had to have 270 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a joke with the audience. So he 271 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: wasn't pimping himself out. They mentioned, oh, he were a DJ. 272 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: It was only on Saturday, the morning of the wedding 273 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: he actually confirmed, Hey, I'm actually not going to be met. 274 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: He probably thought that the optics of it were going 275 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: to be really cool. It kind of reminds me of 276 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: when Kevin Rudd was seen at that strip club. Well, 277 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's better than playing the ukulele. Let's be honest, 278 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: I'd rather see Albo DJing than Scott getting very caught 279 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: up in this celebrity lifestyle, I understand. I feel like 280 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: it's very opposite of the image he was trying to 281 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: put out being an Aussie batler in one of us. 282 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: I suppose he's trying to hold onto the fact that 283 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: Kyle used to be one of us in terms of 284 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: he was a batler. He's come from the streets and 285 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: made it really successful. Didn't like that comment at all. 286 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that Albo is praising Kyle 287 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: in this way and aligning himself with such an infamous figure, 288 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: because we just have to take a look back at 289 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: some of the large controversies that Kyle has been involved in. 290 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: In two thousand and nine, in a Lighter tecta stunt 291 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: that went wrong, we saw Kyle air an interview with 292 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: a distressed child who said that she'd been raped at 293 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: the age of twelve. In the same year, he also 294 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: fat shamed Magna Sebanski, saying that she could be skinny 295 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: if she were in a concentration camp. A few years later, 296 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, Kyle unleashed an on air rent at 297 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: a female journalist who gave his TV show a negative review. 298 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: He said, what a fat bit of thing you are? 299 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: You deputy editor of an online thing. You've got a 300 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: nothing job anyway, You're a piece of shit, you little troll. 301 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: You should be fired from your job. He then finished 302 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: off by warning he would hunt her downe And just 303 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: last year, Kyle said that monkey pox was a big 304 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: gay disease. So it's quite shocking to think that Albo 305 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: would happily align himself with someone like this. Yeah, those 306 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: views are not something I would want to politically align 307 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: myself with if I was Elbow or just myself in general. Now, 308 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Deputy Opposition Leader Susan Lay said that there was nothing 309 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: wrong with going to a friend's wedding, but question why 310 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: Albo would take a day off before the federal budget. 311 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: She said, it is curious the Prime Minister thinks he 312 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: can take a day off just before his first real budget. 313 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: Australians will rightly ask whether the Prime Minister should be 314 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: spinning decks at a multimillion dollar wedding when people can't 315 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: afford their rent. And I suppose that's another big reason 316 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: why people were so pissed off he was there. You know, 317 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: people are struggling at the moment and he's at a 318 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: millionaire's wedding when he's meant to be preparing for the budget. 319 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: From a PR perspective, I just don't understand why his 320 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: media advisors let him attend this. I don't know why 321 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: there wasn't someone in his camp saying, hey, this is 322 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: one of the most hated men in Australia. This is 323 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: not a good look. Look. The thing is you're saying 324 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: he's very hated, but that's from a specific part of 325 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: the community. There are, but that's Albo's community. Those are 326 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: the people that the woke community and the young people 327 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: are the ones that Albo really marketed himself towards. I disagree. 328 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look at how Trump got elected in the US. 329 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: He was appealing to a certain demographic. You've got to 330 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: remember Carl and Jackie Oh have the number one rating 331 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: radio show in Australia. They hold a lot of but 332 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: people would have thought that's great. At Albo, I don't 333 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: think that the like there's not The vast majority of 334 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: people are not woke. He needs to tap into a 335 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: bigger audience if he wants to get rid of like. 336 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: I just think that this audience isn't the audience that 337 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: align with him politic But I don't think people know 338 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: much about politics. I think that they see the two leaders, 339 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: they go who do you like? Scomo or Olbow. There's 340 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: not It's not like America where there is a lot 341 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: of difference between the Liberal and Labor Party. To be honest, 342 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: there's not a huge difference. It's who do you like 343 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: who's a good guy? And he thinks, oh, I'm going 344 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: to keep my promise and go to Kyl. I would 345 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: disagree though. I think that in the recent election people 346 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: drew huge parallels between both parties. That's no but no, 347 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: no one Likescomo. That's why he got kicked. And I 348 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: can assure you if somebody like Kyle Sandalans actually ran 349 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: to become prime minister, he would get a shipload of votes, 350 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: regardless of what other people think. It's a popularity context. 351 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: We don't have the same political system as America and 352 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: something like that can happen. We have so much to 353 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: discuss today. You saw the title, and the title is 354 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: real podcast Royalty. Alex Cooper has shocked listeners by announcing 355 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: her engagement to mister Sexy zoom Man Amy, who is 356 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: the secret man well, mister Sexy zoom Man is actually 357 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: called Matt Kaplan and he's a thirty nine year old 358 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: film producer and businessman and being a Daddy Gang member. 359 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: I remember hearing first about him back in twenty twenty, 360 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: and this is when zoom calls started becoming a thing, 361 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: so Alex actually met him on a zoom call, hence 362 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: the nickname Sexy zoom Man. Now, while it's the first 363 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: time Alex has officially mentioned Matt by name, Daddy Gang 364 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: fans had already worked out who he was, and there's 365 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: been a lot of discussion on Reddit about him. See. 366 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: I was always too lazy to google. I was like, 367 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I wonder what he looks like. He wasn't really what 368 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: I was expecting. I thought he'd be a bigger name. 369 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: I thought he'd be taller as well. I know that 370 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: sounds silly. I googled his height. He's under six foot 371 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: I don't know for some reason. No shame to the 372 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: small kings. Is that what they call them? But I 373 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: would say someone's a small king under six foot five 374 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: eles just saying it surprised me. Really, I thought he 375 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: was a good high and I actually thought he'd look older. 376 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: I was surprised to find out that he was thirty nine. 377 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: I actually thought he looked a lot younger than that. Really, 378 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: I thought he looked kind of old. The thing that 379 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: surprised me was that he's been married before to Claire Holt, 380 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: who's an Australian actor, so she's been in the Vampire 381 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Diaries and the Originals. What surprised me more was he 382 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: was linked to Ashley Olsen, so he was dating Ashley 383 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: back in the early two thousands and they dated for 384 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: three years. He's clearly got a tight because he also 385 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: dated Whitney Port from the Hills when I did a 386 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: bit of a deep dive into him. What worried me 387 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: a little bit is the fact that his marriage to 388 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: Claire Holt didn't last very long, so they got divorced 389 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: a day before their one year wedding anniversary. That seems 390 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: to be a bit of a trend at the moment, 391 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: but it was back in twenty sixteen. We're just getting 392 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: to the proposal. What I loved about it was Alex 393 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: was actually in her tracks when Matt got down on 394 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: one knee. And this is despite all the effort Matt 395 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: went into to ensure Alex was glammed up ready for 396 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: the photos. It kind of reminds me of when I 397 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: got engaged, because we had it at our house warming 398 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, why were you wearing jeans? But I 399 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: didn't care because I had my hair and my makeup done. 400 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: That's all I cared about. I didn't have my nails. Well. 401 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of guys should be taking 402 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: tips from Matt because he organized this fake photo shoot 403 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: for Ali to go to. Is if that's something normal 404 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: that oh, hangd on, honey, you've got a fake photo 405 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: shoot on. What I mean is you should say, oh, 406 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: why don't you go out to lunch with your girls? 407 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: The girls to get them out of the house so 408 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: they're dressed nicely. I don't know, I think it's kind 409 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: of obvious when boys are suddenly like organizing your social life. 410 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: If Race was like, oh, hey, why don't you go 411 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: get dressed up and have a girl But he did 412 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: the exact same thing because he had organized the house warming. Yes, 413 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: so it's kind of similar. I mean it was on 414 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: my radar. I was like, yeah, But the thing is 415 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: Matt actually organized it with Alex's PA, so I think 416 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: it was also coming from the PA. That she had 417 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: this shoot on. That would be easier if your partner 418 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: had a PA. So she did go out, she had 419 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: her hair done, she had her nails done, but she 420 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: got changed after the photo shoot. And what I love 421 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: is that she actually got changed into her own Daddy 422 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Gang merchandise. I wonder if it was a strategic On 423 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: her top it read unwell university. And what's really ironic 424 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: about this is that is the famous term that was 425 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: actually coined by Sophia, her ex co host. So a 426 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: lot of people have been like, who gets married and 427 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: and has merch on with it? You know Sophiar's catchphrase. 428 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: So was this old merch? No, this is new new merch. 429 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: They've taken that, you know, the Daddy Gang have taken 430 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: over that phrase of being unwell. What I thought was 431 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: cool is that Matt filmed a videos to start this 432 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: scavenger hunt. Once he got back to the house, and 433 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: he was dressed in the same clothes that he wore 434 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: when they first met on the zoom call. So he 435 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: announced that he's got this little clues in every room. 436 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: It was epic set up. Remember what he was wearing 437 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: on a zoom Did he have his track pants on? Underneath. 438 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how everyone wears business up top, but 439 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: just set this scene. The house literally looked like something 440 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: out of the Bachelor. There was just candles everywhere and 441 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: they had their two dogs dressed up in suits. They 442 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: were so cute. But what's really hilarious about one of 443 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: the dogs is the dog Henry. He was actually Matt 444 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: and his ex wife's Claire's dogs. So a lot of 445 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: people have been on Reddit saying, let's get Henry back 446 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: to Claire, like. 447 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: There's been this hole movie Henry. 448 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I know that's I have a problem with that. I 449 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: think it's me. That's because you're a step dog. Mum 450 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm shadows real mother that really shoots me. 451 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: We say that he's got mother number one and mother 452 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: number two. Just getting back to this scavenger hunt, Matt 453 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: had put in so much effort, so well, yeah or 454 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: the pa. So in the kitchen there was thirty framed 455 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: photos and they range from photos from their first date, 456 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: their first trip, and the first time they met their dog. 457 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: Can I ask quick question, do you guys have a 458 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: photo from your first date? 459 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 2: Because I feel like that's kind of an awkward thing. 460 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: I remember when Harry and Meghan had their docco and 461 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: they had this photo they'd snapped on their first day. 462 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: I think you guys have a photo of my first date. 463 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: We will talk about this in a subscriber episode. You 464 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: ropped up on the date and took a photo of 465 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: the setter? Yeah, well, or just to the long lens, 466 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: just sort of snap. It looked like a big stalker shop. 467 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: But I don't have it. I don't have a selfie 468 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: from a first date, but I do remember Brandon pulled 469 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: out his phone to take a snapchat to send to 470 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: you guys. I don't have a photo because it's sort 471 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: of we were friends first, so we had photos together 472 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: when we were up. Yeah, what about you? No, I 473 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: couldn't think of anything worse than being on a first 474 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: date and being like, hey, let's take a photo of 475 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: this and someone uploads face. Yeah, like it would have 476 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: to be going pretty well. I do know of someone 477 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: who took a selfie when they are on a date 478 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: and they uploaded it to Instagram, which I found really 479 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: awkward because it's like, did they wait for the date 480 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: to leave the room and then they snapped the selfie 481 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: and do they follow the person Instagram? They follow? As 482 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: she just thought. I do remember Alex saying that because 483 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: of lockdown, she didn't get to meet him for a while. 484 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: So maybe this first date was actually their first in person, 485 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: not just a zoo or is like a screenshot of 486 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: when they want together? Maybe well. As well as the photos, 487 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: he'd also set up mementos that they'd collected throughout their 488 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: time together. And of course he hired a videographer to 489 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: film the scavenger hunt, which. 490 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Is great because then we all got to have a 491 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: little sneaky look at it on Instagram. 492 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: That video was absolute perfection. I loved it. I think 493 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: the setting with the candles and the dogs. Oh do 494 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: you know what it reminds me of when Luca Bish 495 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: from Love Island proposed to Jemma to be his girlfriend. 496 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: It was sort of that level, but it was awkward 497 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: because they've broken up a. 498 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: Couple of months that now. 499 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: Matt had a pretty interesting spill when he actually proposed 500 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: to Alex. So he said, you're my person, you're my 501 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: best friend, you're my soulmate, you're the best sex I've 502 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: ever had, and you mean everything to me in this world. 503 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: Please marry me. I love you. So I didn't know 504 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: this because I'd read all these articles and they must 505 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: have got rid of the line about sex, because this 506 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: definitely wasn't included in a lot of the articles. Very 507 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: on brand for Alex Cooper, like was this a branding exercise? 508 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: Was the PA? Like, hang on a sec just add 509 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: this line. Well. In her podcast when she was revealing 510 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Matt's name, she said, I bet you're all wondering who's 511 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: going to get the gluck gluck nine thousand for the 512 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: rest of his life? How would you feel as the 513 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: ex wife and the other partners been like, oh, okay, 514 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure Ashley Olsen does not give a fuck. To 515 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: be honest, I was thinking about that though Whitney Paul 516 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: dated him, and Alex had a whole series of the 517 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: Hills People when she didn't interview Whitney. Funny enough, I 518 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: really related to Alex's response when she was being interviewed 519 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: by w magazine about her upcoming wedding because she said 520 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: that she's not the set of girl who's had a 521 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Pinterest board with her flowers and dresses and everything like that, 522 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: and she said that everyone's been telling her, Alex, you know, 523 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: you can't wear sweatpants to your wedding. And that just 524 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: gave me a flashback to you guys. 525 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: Telling me I couldn't wear a hoodie to my wedding. 526 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's based on the dresses you were sending through. 527 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you cannot, what are we wearing jeans? 528 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: I am actually thinking that it might be a hoodie 529 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: at this stage, with how far you were leaving this well, 530 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: I kind of like Alex's idea because she said, oh, 531 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't want one of those big puffy dresses. But 532 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: then she said, actually, maybe that would allow me to 533 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: wear my sweatpants underneath. I thought I would just do 534 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: a little not really a mupunk. I just got some drinks. 535 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: Sophia Beg has caused outrage for dressing up as the 536 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: Stingray that killed Steve Irwin for an Aussie themed costume party. 537 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: The nineteen year old was forced to apologize after sharing 538 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: the video to her one million TikTok followers, Kate, how 539 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: did this all come about? So? On Wednesday, Sophia posted 540 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 1: a TikTok video of her wearing a Stingray onesie and 541 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: joked it was an outfit she couldn't wait to wear 542 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: for you European summer and in the comments, she revealed 543 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: the costume was for an Aussie dress up party and 544 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: she said she was going as a duo costume with 545 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: her friend dressing up as Steve Irwin for the Genzettas listening. 546 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: Steve Irwin, also known as a crocodile hunter, died in 547 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and six when he was pierced in the 548 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: chest by Stingray Barb. He was just forty four at 549 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: the time and was filming a docco series on the 550 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Ocean's Deadliest. He left behind his wife, Terry, and two children, 551 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Bindi and Robert, who were two and eight years old, 552 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: respectively at the time. We were seventeen when Steve Irwin died, 553 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: and this story was massive. His funeral was broadcast everywhere. 554 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Even my partner now he will go back and watch 555 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: the funeral and just randomly and cry. I think that 556 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: just shows how much people love Steve Irwin and what 557 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: a national icon he was. Oh, he truly was. And 558 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Sophia was instantly called out for being disrespectful to the 559 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: Irwin family. One person wrote it's literally blatant disrespect, another 560 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: said definitely not a joke, and someone added I'd just 561 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: ask myself one question, would I wear this in front 562 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: of Bindi and Robert. No, that's a huge no. Now. 563 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: While the majority did feel like the video was in 564 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: bad taste, there were a few people defending the influencer. 565 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: One person wrote, oh, lighten up, it's been twenty years. 566 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: Someone else said, I think it's funny and I love 567 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: Steve Irwin. Life's too short to take it seriously. Another 568 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: person added, I think Steve would have laughed at this. 569 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: It would have been different if she dressed up as 570 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: a crocodile. Yeah, exactly. I don't understand, like Steve Irwin 571 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: and a crocodile, that would have been great. Like why 572 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: the stingray? It's not funny at all. I don't think 573 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: it's funny at all. But I do wonder, because Sophia 574 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: Beg is a gen Zetta, if she didn't understand how 575 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: well loved he was and understand I suppose the gravity 576 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: of the situation at the time. Yeah, she is the 577 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: same age as Robert Irwin, so they're both nineteen. So 578 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: she was only two when Steve Irwin died. The thing is, 579 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: if she is at the point where she's deciding to 580 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: dress up as Steve Irwin and a Stingray. She then 581 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: knows what a huge Aussie icon Steve Erwin was. I 582 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's a defense that she was too young 583 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: to know the tragedy that surrounded the inside. I feel 584 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: like all the gen Zetas are loving Robert Erwin, so yeah, 585 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: they know the backstory as well, like they're all frothing. 586 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: And I feel really bad for Robert Irwin because Sophia 587 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: has a million followers on TikTok. Surely that probably would 588 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: have popped up in his and Bindi's TikTok accounts. I 589 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: also don't think that two thousand and six was too 590 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: long ago to be poking fun at death. I don't know. 591 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: For some reason, death is a real thing for me 592 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: that I don't think you poke fun out. And I 593 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: think the poster said it right. If you couldn't wear 594 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: that in front of Robert and Bindy, then don't wear it. Yeah. Well. 595 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: Sophia did end up removing the video and issued an 596 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: apology the following day, saying that she loved Steve Irwin 597 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: and didn't mean to offend anyone or disrespect Steve's family. 598 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 1: She wrote, I have thought about and reflected on my costume, 599 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: and I will not be wearing it and apologize wholeheartedly 600 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: to anyone who was offended by it. This was definitely 601 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: not my intention. I apologize sincerely. I do think that 602 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: is a nice apology, and we do have to remember 603 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: she is a nineteen year old girl. Everyone makes mistakes 604 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: at that age, and she is on a large platform, 605 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: which makes it more difficult when you make a mistake. 606 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: I don't think there was any ill intent on Sophie's behalf. 607 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I think it's great that she did apologize, she took 608 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: it down, she listened to everyone. The apology seemed genuine. 609 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: But it does trouble me that people would find that funny, 610 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: Like there were a lot of people defending what she did, 611 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: offending her. Basically, I agree with you, it was offensive. However, 612 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: think of all the dumb shit we've all done when 613 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: we were nineteen, you feel like you need to talk 614 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: it down. I think a lot of people also use 615 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: humor to deal with death. Look, I'll give her praise 616 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: for apologizing. I'm interested to see what she does wear 617 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: for this upcoming costume party. Well, I think that's all 618 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: we've got time for today. Thank you so much for 619 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: listening to another episode of Outspoken. 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