1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Now I think we've got Robert on the line right now. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Robert, Good morning. How are you good, mate? 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: What's on your mind today, Kattie? 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: You know, I've just been at my daughter's house, packing 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: up her home because she can't afford the ranch. He's 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: a tourism operator. I can't help her support her anymore 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: because I'm a tourism operator, and I'm really really disappointed 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: in some of the ways in which we've handled a 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: lot of the stuff. I know that some of it's 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: out of her hands, but I'm tired of hearing about 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: frontline workers and all the work they've done. There's a 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: lot of people out there that are really hit in 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: the wall, and they all get paid, and they all 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: get paid double time. They're all government workers. And the 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: people that aren't getting paid, well, I don't know, Robert, 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: than just rotten hell or something. 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, mate, I don't know if you heard yesterday. We 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: obviously played the Chief Minister's press conference around eleven o'clock 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: or what it was yesterday, and I certainly noted what 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: he'd said at the end of that press conference where 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: he had said, like you've just pointed out, you know, 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: we wanted to thank all the public servants for the 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: work that they'd done over the last three days. And I, 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: you know, I certainly acknowledge that our frontline workers, those 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: you know conducting those tests, and our police officers and 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: others have done a phenomenal job. 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: But I did point this. 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Out yesterday, as you are just telling me right now, Robert, 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: We've got private enterprise and people that work in the 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: private sector and in different industries who are seriously hurting 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: at the moment, and three days of lockdown is not 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: only detrimental in some situations, it's you know, it's a 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: nail in the coffin for some businesses. Yeah. 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Look, you know, I'm probably lucky. You've been around in 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: the industry a long time, and I'm using my resources. 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: But I'm watching my daughter use our only superannuation she 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: had every single thing. This is a twenty two year 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: old that is trying to get a start. I think 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: that it's time that our Chief Minister acknowledges the fact 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of people out there, and I 42 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: really every one of those public servants will be claiming 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: double time and overtime. Every single one of them have 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: been paid forrading month. The last three years we've struggled 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: in our industry, and it will given a bone, a 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: little tiny bone oil will as a seven hundred and 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: fifty dollars. What's that going to do that? It's not 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: even going to pay two weeks rant you know, I 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not asking for a handout from the government, 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: but I'm actually asking them for him to have a 51 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: really good look, have a little bit of a social 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: think about what their ramifications are that are really just 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: running through the industry. I watched one of my colleagues 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: wash off one hundred thousand dollars worth of bookings. I 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: watched to do it again, and I watched probably my 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: business thirty thousand dollars worth of bookings. Now you know, 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: then I've got the federal government hit me for bath 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: And who do I pay my staff super or do 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: I tell the federal government to go and buy that bum? Oh? 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: Mate? 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: That is bloody heartbreaking. Robert, Are you you don't? I 62 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: mean it's up to you, you know, whether you identify 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 3: exactly what industry you work in or if you don't. 64 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: But is you know I you in the tourism sector? 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: All absolutely right? Ups to my neck in it. 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: Mate, what about your daughter, you're twenty two year old. 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: Does she also work in the tourism sector. 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she works with me. So every time we close 69 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: down only and look ten days over the last month, 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: yeahs tendos. She hasn't been paid. So you know the 71 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: people that of course rent are going up in the town. 72 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 73 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: And of course what's happening is those people when she 74 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: can't make the rent, you know, then she's got the electricity. 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: If you have a look at the water bills at 76 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: the moment, the whole the whole time, since this labor 77 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: government's been there, all I've watched is increases in every region. 78 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: My water bill went up three hundred dollars, three hundred 79 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: dollars since the last bill. Yeah, okay, I don't know 80 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: what's going on, Katie. Look, I'm not crying for I'm 81 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: not crying, but you know, I'm just wanting to make 82 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: sure that this particular government gets its head out of 83 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: its bottom and starts to work out. But the industry 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: that brings in all this money, which is importing then 85 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: exporting that money out of the pockets and into the economy, 86 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: this is not the same money going around and around. 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: This is new money going around and around, and that's 88 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: what builds new houses and builds new businesses, and confidence 89 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: are not going to show it at the moment when 90 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: he doesn't acknowledge that there's a lot of people out 91 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: there using every single cent that they've got, and he 92 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: just looks after the public servants. Well, that's because it's 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: all about votes. And I'm afraid this man and this 94 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: man at the moment this is about votes. Well, he's 95 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: doing a good job to make sure he gets back in, 96 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: but I'll tear what he won't be getting my vote. 97 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Robert, iye, bloody, really, you know, honestly, what you're saying 98 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: this morning, I feel for you. 99 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: And you know you are not. 100 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: The first business person who has had a discussion like 101 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 3: this with me. 102 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I said it earlier this morning on air. 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: You know, I had a prominent business woman get in 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: contact with me yesterday to say that it is you 105 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: know that what happens during a lockdown, and even the 106 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: impacts of obviously the other states going into lockdown. 107 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: It is absolutely breaking. 108 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: Them, you know. 109 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: And I'm hearing that from your voice this morning, and 110 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: I you know, I am the first one to say 111 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: I've got no comprehension that because I've been able to 112 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: go to work. So I need people like you to 113 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: tell me what is going on so that I can 114 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: try my best to hold to you know, to make 115 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: sure that the government realizes the way that you guys 116 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: are hurting. 117 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that it's time we stopped 118 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: bringing in people that may have this problem sort out 119 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: and tied up our backyard because this is where it 120 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: all happens. I'm actually right in the line at the moment, Katie, 121 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: get my Fizer shot. All right. I'm actually standing there 122 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: now a waiting, which is good. And you know, it's 123 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: time all of Australians and all of you people started 124 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: to think about it. We've had that many shots in 125 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: our youth. We've had everything, triple engine, we've had totally 126 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: get the blusters shot, get on with our lives and 127 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: let's make it so that we can start doing what 128 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: we should be doing, and that's getting down to work. 129 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: Robert, Mate, thank you so much for calling this morning. 130 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: I think it is so incredibly important for everybody listening 131 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: this morning to know how our tourism operators, how our 132 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: business people are feeling throughout these lockdowns I'm really grateful 133 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: that you've called, but also thank you for pointing out, 134 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 3: you know, the struggle of some of our young people 135 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: as well, your daughter who's twenty two. We forget sometimes 136 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: that you know that people like your daughter are you know, 137 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: are out of work then for three days. That may 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: not seem like a huge amount to me or to 139 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: you know, to our politicians, but it is. It's backbreaking 140 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: for young people who are reliant on those wages to 141 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: be able to pay their rents. 142 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So you look at it, Katie ten 143 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: days un Let's just say if she made two hundred 144 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: dollars days two thousand dollars, that's why she's getting hited 145 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: out because she hasn't got two thousand dollars to pay 146 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: the back rent. I just think that it's really time 147 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: he started looking at the Northern Territory as a whole whole. 148 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of people out there. There's a 149 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: lot of things out there that really I don't think 150 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: he's in touch with, and you know, time to time 151 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: to be in touch. Very lucky the government has supported me. 152 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they haven't. They've supported me through a 153 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: rent decrease, but I still need customers at the door. Yeah, 154 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't have all the at least rents you want, 155 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: but I still have to have customers at the door. 156 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: So let's have a think about this a little bit 157 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: more widely. You put it out yesterday. Why did this 158 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: guy be able to walk away from a man tary 159 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: two weeks and then three days later gets done a positive? 160 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Why isn't this the part and pass of why I'm 161 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: under this de strain? Why isn't it three weeks mandatory? 162 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: You know, I'm afraid that when you stop a whole 163 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: economy and look at Sydney Melbourne, they're in there two 164 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: hundredth day in Melbourne off lockdown. The psychological problems down there, 165 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: a spark grated than the desk crowded by this particular 166 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: people are committing more suicide now than they ever had 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: because what's happened is that they've forgotten they can't pay 168 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: their bills. You can't pay your bills, you can't live 169 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: there anymore. 170 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Robert mate, I look, I know it's not much, 171 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: but I would like to give you our territory and 172 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: of the week this week. I know that that's certainly 173 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: not why you've called. You know, you've called to make 174 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: sure that others know exactly the hardship that our business 175 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: people are going through, that some of our different industries 176 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: are going through. 177 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: But regardless, I want. 178 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: To give you that care package from perp Find Foods 179 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: put together by Neville there and and you know, like 180 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: I said, I know it's not going to change your 181 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: outlook when it comes to you know, the difficulties that 182 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: we're going through. But I think it's really important that 183 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: you've called through this morning. And it takes bravery to 184 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: let others know exactly what's going on, and we appreciate it. 185 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Katie. All the listeners out there, 186 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: they're struggling, keep heart. Let's hope that things start again 187 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: and let's get on them with it. 188 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: Robert, please stay on the line so we can get 189 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: your details so that we can make sure that you 190 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: get that beautiful care package from Neville at Perhap Find Foods. 191 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, mate. I really appreciate your calling this morning. 192 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie. 193 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: You have a great day you too, good weekend, Yeah 194 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: you too, mate, Thank you, and lots of love to 195 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: your daughter as well. Oh yeah, thank you big look 196 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: a big thanks to Robert for calling through and letting 197 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: us know you know how tough this is on some 198 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: of our different businesses and industries.