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Speaker 1: As we discussed on the show yesterday, we're expecting a

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Speaker 1: Around sixty converged on Parliament House yesterday concerned that plans

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Speaker 1: Logistics and Infrastructure, Bill Yan. Good morning to your minister.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Listen now, minister, tell me what is the situation. Is

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Speaker 2: It is an I'm sort of a little bit I

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Speaker 2: don't know where all this misinformation has been coming from. Kay. Look,

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Speaker 2: when we got into government, we had to look at

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there was some discussions about it, but something

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Speaker 2: So we're only now just started on doing the planning

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Speaker 2: I don't know that what message is being sent i e.

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Speaker 2: I suppose the last couple of weeks on this.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's been a bit tricky or a

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Speaker 2: Well, you've got to stop and think Labor and government

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Speaker 1: So well, it wouldn't have been at that time, Bill

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Speaker 1: So Bell, who are the approvals? Like, who do you

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Speaker 2: Well, the land council in particularly for access to gravel,

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's right, Katie. It happened then in Central Australia too,

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Speaker 2: So it sets of preasons, Katie, if we're having to

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Speaker 1: Well, we keep us up to date with what happens

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Speaker 1: So please do keep us up to date. Now, I

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Speaker 1: including Robin Carls and also Murray Claire Boothby's. But from

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Speaker 2: Part to play, Absolutely, Katie, we need to be doing

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Speaker 2: in for me into my logistics portfolio. But on the

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Speaker 2: other side, the flip side for tourism and economic development

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Speaker 2: having Guitar coming into Darwin and providing other options to

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Speaker 2: So an additional international airline coming into Darwin is certainly

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Speaker 2: I'll be doing my bit through to the Infrastructure Minister

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Speaker 2: federally again to say to Sprute what the benefits of

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Speaker 2: this will be for the territory. Just just in one

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Speaker 2: lasting Katie, before we finished, I just we had a

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Speaker 2: really good meeting with the members from the wide community yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So my senior advisor and advisor and Logistics and Infrastructure

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Speaker 2: met with the community members who were here yesterday and

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Speaker 2: there was a really positive meeting. So we gave them,

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Speaker 2: we gave them the facts. This is the lay leans,

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Speaker 2: this is where everything stands currently, and so it was

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Speaker 2: just these are the actual truths and the facts about

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Speaker 2: the projects. So they were very very happy when they

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Speaker 2: walked way because they've got a very clear understanding now

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Speaker 2: of where the project is at and where we're going

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Speaker 2: to go.

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Speaker 1: That's really good and I think that that is an

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Speaker 1: important thing, you know, to sit down with people and

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Speaker 1: hear their concerns and you be able to articulate, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's going on from your side of things. Bill before

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Speaker 1: I let you go, Mate, a couple of minutes late

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Speaker 1: because there was something going on in Parliament. How's it

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Speaker 1: all tracking today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, busy day to day Katie, where the Chief

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Speaker 2: minutes to introduce some amendments to the Police Administration Act

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Speaker 2: so they can actually do dragon alcopatising on DV offenders

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Speaker 2: who may have dvos, which is good, some access for

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Speaker 2: police to deal with people who may be on parole,

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Speaker 2: breached their parole or have a rest warrant issued in

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Speaker 2: relation to parole, to be able to access like the premises,

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Speaker 2: but not actually go inside a house because at the

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Speaker 2: moment they can't. There's just some anomalies there for that.

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Speaker 2: So they weren't supported by the opposition apparently, so it's

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Speaker 2: a bit silly on their part. Anything that we can

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Speaker 2: do just to deal with DV and and stop offending

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Speaker 2: against people is certainly a positive in my book, So

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Speaker 2: it's funny that they voted against bill proceeding. I don't know, Katie,

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Speaker 2: You've got a wonder some time.

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Speaker 1: We'll follow it up. We've got the week that was tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so no doubt there will be plenty of discussion about that.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a huge day, Katie.

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Speaker 1: It will be there is mate, You guys, there has

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Speaker 1: been so much legislation introduced and passed and you know,

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Speaker 1: look I'm going through I will be going through it

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Speaker 1: all with a fine tooth come. But it's you know,

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Speaker 1: there has been a lot happening this week.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and then of course all the things that we

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Speaker 2: gave notice of this week will be debating in March.

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Speaker 2: So March things are going to be quite big. I've

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Speaker 2: got the stuff on the debt ceiling. Of course, we've

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Speaker 2: got Territory corners, that big game changing piece of legislation

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Speaker 2: for the territory. There's a myriad of things coming up

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Speaker 2: in March, so that will be I think a watershed

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Speaker 2: moment around particularly the territory co wadone and that so

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Speaker 2: that key piece of economic development legislation that's going to

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Speaker 2: turn the territory around. So it's going to be big

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Speaker 2: and really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Well. Bill Yan, the Treasurer and also the Minister for

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Speaker 1: Logistics and Infrastructure, really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having a chat to us about that project.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, can you have a great thank you, Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much