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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix ONEOW four point nine and

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Speaker 1: joining me live in the studio is the Lord Mayor

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Speaker 1: of Darwin convat Sculus.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Conn.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Kate, and this I agree with you. Perrup

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Speaker 3: Village is awesome to go there shopping. I love it

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Speaker 3: my life. I'm enjoying myself every time I go there.

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Speaker 3: And I can't stop going to Perrupt Delhi.

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Speaker 4: As I know you. It was the first shop.

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Speaker 3: I went when I came here for my job with

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Speaker 3: the Review ninety ninety two, and I'm mad the grief

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Speaker 3: owners and since then I have always to go and

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Speaker 3: say hello to Napoleon and Erini and all the people

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Speaker 3: that are working there.

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Speaker 2: Oh they are like a territory icon. Really aren't they.

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Speaker 4: Not like a.

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Speaker 1: Well yes, my live reads for Perhap fine foods they

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Speaker 1: always they are.

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Speaker 2: They have beautiful products, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to ask you obviously the vaccine mandate.

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Speaker 1: It is just one week since the Chief Minister Michael

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Speaker 1: going To have made that announcement that this mandate is

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Speaker 1: coming into play.

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Speaker 2: How does it impact the council.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a Chief Health Officer direction, yes, it's a

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Speaker 3: legal direction.

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Speaker 4: It's not if, but we have to follow it.

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Speaker 3: So immediately we read it, we ask our lawyers to

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Speaker 3: have a look at it. They did and they told

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Speaker 3: us that we have to ask all our stuff to

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Speaker 3: be vaccinated. On top of that, we have to ask

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Speaker 3: all our contractors and subcontractors to be vaccinated or if.

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Speaker 4: They are not, they're not getting a contract with the council.

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Speaker 3: And now we're actually looking to see the elected members

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Speaker 3: because under the Act, elect members are not employees.

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Speaker 4: But there is also the Fair Work Australia. We have

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Speaker 4: to ask and save Work safe.

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Speaker 3: So we have this situation now because the reality is

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Speaker 3: when we act as elected members and we meet with people,

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Speaker 3: which actually comes under the Chief Health Office direction. So

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Speaker 3: this is the last step. But everybody works for council

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Speaker 3: has to be vaccinated. Every contractor subcontractor that deals with

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Speaker 1: It actually sounds like it's going to be fairly extensive

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Speaker 3: I don't because I haven't asked, but I have to

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Speaker 3: tell you that I am vaccinated. I believe a number

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Speaker 3: of them are vaccinated. We had a meeting yesterday with

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Speaker 3: the local gun association and with the department, and with

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Speaker 3: the legal representatives and with the Health Department because a

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Speaker 3: lot of councils, they're not in Dowwin, they're not in

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Speaker 3: an urban situation or the remote communities. They're dealing daily

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Speaker 3: to clarify that one I alsaid to you before. It's

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Speaker 3: a direction by the Chief Health Officer. It's got a

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Speaker 3: legal status. If you don't comply, well you might lose

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Speaker 3: your job.

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Speaker 2: Is it going to have an impact?

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Speaker 1: Do you think for the counsel in terms of your

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Speaker 1: contractors and subcontractors as well well, we will.

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Speaker 3: Put out if you want a contact with the country

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Speaker 3: to be vaccinated. Is your decision then to decide what

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Speaker 4: Don't force you.

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Speaker 3: But it's a legal direction because if we don't do it,

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Speaker 3: then something happens and somebody gets COVID because of a

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Speaker 4: Should a council for the lack of duty of care?

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Speaker 4: We're in the middle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we have to protect our workers, but at

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Speaker 1: Do you know if there's staff within the City of

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Speaker 1: Darwin council that do not want to be vaccinated, we.

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Speaker 3: Put information around, We put a circular, We told them

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Speaker 3: If people do not want to be vaccinated, perhaps to

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Speaker 2: And so like, there's no lenients from you or from

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Speaker 3: It's a legal direction. It's a lot simple as that.

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Speaker 3: The same way we say you don't drink and drive,

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Speaker 1: Look, we've had so many people contact us here at

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Speaker 1: We have also had some serious anti vaxxines who have

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Speaker 1: everybody having different views, But are you sort of I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you, like, are you worried about the impact that

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Speaker 4: Got a medical original, there's no problem.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to suffer consequts because of the vaccine

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Speaker 3: and that's certified by a doctor, that's acceptable.

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Speaker 4: That's even in the legal direction.

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Speaker 3: If you don't want a vaccine because you read in Facebook,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's not a legal reason. And the news

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Speaker 3: today are really worrying. There's a delta plus variant in Britain.

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Speaker 3: Have seen jumping the admission to hospital from forty thousand

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Speaker 3: It's more infectious, we find out now it's the youngest

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Speaker 3: people new cases to day's three thousand, seven hundred more deaths.

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Speaker 4: And the deaths are twenty and thirty years.

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Speaker 3: And I said that because I read the newspaper every

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Speaker 4: I want to see what's happening because my mother's there.

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Speaker 3: The reality is a lot of people they say that

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Speaker 3: the vaccination are not safe. Well, seventeen million are trying

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Speaker 3: to be vaccinated today. We had nine days from complication.

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Speaker 3: We're complication from acts of the flu vaccine or any

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Speaker 3: other vaccine. We had hundreds of millions of people vaccinated

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Speaker 3: people coming up says it's an experimental vaccine. Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: Corn I do want to ask you. We've had a

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Speaker 1: we just got a call from Rob on the phone. Coln,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do if one of the

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Speaker 3: Get the jab That's what we're actually trying to find out.

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Speaker 3: For example, they might not be able to attend meetings,

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Speaker 3: But we clarify and now get a legal opinion about

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Speaker 3: the oldoman and we'll comply with the legal opinion and

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Speaker 3: the legal direction.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll be interested to hear exactly what happens there.

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Speaker 3: Did, and we had the number of tenders, and the

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Speaker 4: The twenty nine million dollar tender.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine million dollars. Has that gone up because.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be twenty nine million, well.

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Speaker 3: Before twenty five million dollars construction, but always putting out

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Speaker 1: Is that was that a bit disingenuous to the right

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Speaker 4: Five to go back and check it out to give

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Speaker 3: But my understanding is it's twenty five million dollar contract

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Speaker 4: And then I don't know if I have to come

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Speaker 4: the right answer.

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Speaker 1: Right. But so when do you anticipate that it's going

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Speaker 3: Certainly now we've got the wet period and that creates

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Speaker 4: They fill up with water.

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Speaker 3: But certainly when everything is finished and we will start

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Speaker 2: It's a big problem is going to be if you.

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Speaker 3: Look at the plans, it's got a massive amount of

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Speaker 1: And based on those tenders that have come through, is

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Speaker 3: Will be spectacular as we said, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: that's going to be there for the next sixty seventy years,

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Speaker 4: Cycle and cleanup. If you have done it, please let

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Speaker 3: We actually have now going to do a mock up

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Speaker 3: We don't want to see again the cyclone market situation

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Speaker 3: So if you have done your cyclone preparation, highly recommend

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Speaker 3: you do it every year. Prepare your cyclone kit. If

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Speaker 3: the media outlets will have you what you have to

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Speaker 3: do and you make a choice, we won't have baked bean,

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Speaker 3: so you have to have something more.

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Speaker 4: Go make probably a bit at the.

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Speaker 2: Perupt day or anyway. Really, there's so many wonderful stores

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Speaker 1: Combat Scarlet. It's always good to catch up. The Lord

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Katie,