1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Our last few plant milk reviews have had such fantastic 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: reviews that today we thought it was time to take 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: a closer look at one of ours. And when I 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: say ours, Leanne the favorite plat milks which is soy, 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: and we've taken a close look at three very popular 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: different kinds of soy milk that you can find in 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: the Ossi supermarkets. Hi, I'm Cusiburrow limlean Wood and as 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: two of us Jays leading dieticians, we bring you the 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly chat on new products 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: and old favorites that you can find in supermarkets. Now, Leanne, 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: we thought it was time to do a whole milk section, 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and of course you have put your hand up to 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: not only do the plant milt ride ups, but particularly 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: soy because I know that that is your choice of 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: when we go for coffee, that's your order, and you've 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: chosen some good ones. And on an episode, normally we 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: would take turns at running through it, but I'm up 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: in Brisbane actually visiting Leanne, and I don't have my 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: normal tech with me and I literally cannot see these 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: labels they're so small. 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: So Leanne is going to. 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Take over and take us through and I will just 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: chirp in with very valuable comments as we go. 24 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: All Right, Well, the first one I think I'll say 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: is probably the most popular, or the one that I 26 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: always see clients gravitate towards, or the one that I 27 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: would say is in the media a lot, and it's 28 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: the Bonsoy Long Life soy milk. So this one is 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 2: in a one lead UHT pack and it's four dollars 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: eighty so it's very pricey, like nearly five dollars, and 31 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: it very rarely comes and sale from what I've seen, 32 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't exactly say that it was very affordable 33 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, but I do know it's 34 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: very popular. So I thought we'd start with this one today, Susie. 35 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: And when we go through the ingredient list, it starts 36 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: with filtered water, followed by organic whole soy beans minimum 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: of fourteen percent, followed by tapioca syrup, sea salt, jobs tea, 38 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: and calcium carbonate. Now there's two interesting ingredients in there, 39 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: one being tapiocas syrup, But I think people gravitate towards 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: slim because there's no easily visible sugar on the label. 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: But what a lot of people don't realize is that 42 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: the tapioca syrup is actually sugar and the job's tier. 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: I must be completely honest. I had to google. I 44 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: was like, what is jobs and water is it doing 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: in soy milk? So apparently it's a grain and it's 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: a cereal plant that's native to Southeast Asia. And the 47 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: grain is like a soft hold grain. It's dried out 48 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: and then it's sold, and so they use it in 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: things like jewey and some food products as well. So 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it contributes to a little bit of maybe 51 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: the texture of the soy milk. Maybe it makes it 52 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: blend easier. I'm not entirely sure what it's doing in there, 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: but I imagine it's probably only a very small amount, 54 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: and there is a little bit of calcium fortification happening, 55 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: but it's not a huge amount when we go through 56 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: the nutrition panel. So this is quite weird because I've 57 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: never really seen a plant based milk that does any 58 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: sort of milk or plant based milk that doesn't have 59 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: a serving size of two fifty meals like this one's 60 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: two hundred mills, which I find very unusual. Have you 61 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: ever seen that before? 62 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: No, But I do wonder because I think bon sooi 63 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: comes from overseas, doesn't it. 64 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. 65 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: So I think that's got to do with a little 66 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: bit of the change in values. And I guess we 67 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: should say that soy milk is probably closest nutritionally to 68 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: cow's milk. It's just a plant based sauce. So when 69 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: we look at the nutritional profile, it's quite different from 70 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: the previous two that we've looked at when we looked 71 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: at oat and almond milk. Certainly we're trying to replicate 72 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: the nutritional profile of cow's milk and dairy. Soy is 73 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: a lot closer nutritionally, but it is a bit out 74 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: of fashion at the moment, isn't it Soy. I haven't 75 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: had clients say they're using soyfa ages. Well, I'm bringing 76 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: it back, susy, bringing it back, baby. So should I 77 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: convert it to two fifteen meals? I don't really want 78 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: to compare it via one hundred mills because no offense, 79 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: no one really has one hundred meals of milk. Most 80 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: people would have a standard cup of milk if they're 81 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: making a coffee. Okay, yeah, convert it okay. 82 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: So basically what we're going to do is I'm going 83 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: to try my best to convert it with my calculator 84 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: in hand, because I must admit mass is not my 85 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: strong point. So we've got roughly six hundred kilo jewels 86 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: per serving, so per two fifty meals, which is on 87 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: average about just about one hundred and forty five calories. 88 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: Protein wise, we have about ten grams of protein per serve, 89 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: which we would expect in a soy milk because so 90 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: is naturally higher. And then fat wise, we've got about 91 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: five and a half grams of fat, with very low 92 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: saturated fat under a gram of saturated fat. Now carbohydrate, 93 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: we have nearly fourteen grams of carbohydrate per cup, with 94 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: about five and a half grams of sugar per cup 95 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: as well, so that is some of that is added 96 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: sugar from the Tabiogi syrup as well. Now they have 97 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: actually listed dietary fiber in here as well, which you're 98 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: getting from the soybeans that are added in here, and 99 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: dietary fiber is three and a half grams per cup, 100 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: so there's aecially quite a lot in something like a 101 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: plant based milk. They've actually also listed potassium as well, 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: which I find interesting, and potassium per cup is three 103 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty milligrams and calcium I'm not loving SUSI 104 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: because it's quite low. It's only sixty three milligrams per cup, 105 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: which I just think, I don't know my mind of 106 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: like why bother well, I. 107 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: Think it's it's interesting because when we look at the 108 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Australian plant based milks, if they do contain calcium, they 109 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: do tend to have that massive two hundred three hundred milligrams, 110 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, a really decent serve. And I do wonder 111 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: because this product I'm going to look u where it 112 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: comes from, is not a low cool product and perhaps 113 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: oversees the demand for that fortification is not so high 114 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: because Bonsoi has had that level of calcium as long 115 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: as I've been a dietitian. It's always had a little bit, 116 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: but just not so much sulcium carbonate. So it's probably 117 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: not our ideal preferred type of calcium. When it comes 118 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: to absorption factors. It's sort of relatively insignificant, you know 119 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like you're getting a little bit, as 120 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: you would from a serve of legumes, but it's certainly 121 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: not replicating a dairy by any way, shape or form. 122 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: You know this so being quantity is similar across the 123 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: board in terms of amounts. But I think my understanding 124 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: of Bon Soi fans is it's a flavor thing. They 125 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: love the taste. There's something that tastes amazing. Do you 126 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: think it has that distinct taste and flavor because of 127 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: the like the. 128 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: Sweetness that's aded, Yeah, I think so. I think it's 129 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: one of the highest sugar varieties on the on the market, 130 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: not by anything extravagant, but it's definitely got a couple 131 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: of extragrams in some of the other brands. So I 132 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 2: will admit like it tastes good. I definitely frequent cafes 133 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: that use Bonsoi as their preferred soy milk of choice, 134 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: and I must admit it does make a nice coffee. 135 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: But when I'm someone that uses soy milk on a 136 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: regular basis, like I would some days have one to 137 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: two cups of milk a bels having a bit of 138 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: cereal having it in my poroage making it smoothie, than 139 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: having it in my coffee as well at home. So 140 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: I definitely preference another brand which is a lot more 141 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: affordable and be actually has a required calcium in there 142 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: for me, particularly when I was pregnant and breastfeeding as well, 143 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: because it's something a nutrient that we really want to 144 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: watch out for, is calcium. So this isn't my topic. 145 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: I definitely. I don't think I've ever recommended this for clients, Susie, 146 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: but I must say it does taste nice and I 147 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 2: don't mind it occasionally in you know, in my local 148 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: coffee shop. 149 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: Bodn soy was the first modern Japanese soy milk to 150 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: arrive in Australia. Well, there you go. 151 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: So it's Japanese. 152 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: I think it's it is Australia, but they're modeling it 153 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: on a Japanese profile. 154 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. The factory is in Victoria. 155 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. It's local, so it's basically seems 156 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: to be replicating a Japanese recipe. 157 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: Or they source the organic soybeans from the US and 158 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: from Canada. That's why it's got the claims about GMO 159 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: on there, because I think that, you know, Americans are 160 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: very concerned about GMO. 161 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this product get exported. I think 162 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: you can buy just once around the world. Yeah, very interesting, 163 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: But I've always wondered if it was, that was why 164 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: the calcium levels would remain low. But obviously they're following 165 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: a very distinct formula and if it's not broken, you 166 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: don't have to fix it. And it's such a popular 167 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: type of milk, but nutritionally, I wouldn't probably recommend it 168 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: one because it's way too expensive, like four dollars eighty 169 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: for a liter for families. 170 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: That's that's up there. 171 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: And I like any kind of soy to have some 172 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: decent calcium. But you know, if you love it and 173 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: occasionally have a you know, cafe coffee, but it wouldn't 174 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: be on my list of ones that I would recommend 175 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: people buy just based on the calcium alone, agreed. And 176 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: we don't love added sugar to milk, you know what 177 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, It's not ideal. 178 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: And then the second one I've gone for is the 179 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: pure harvest organic soy unsweetened. So I must say that 180 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: the majority of soy milks on the market or found 181 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: in super markets are sweet. There's actually very rare to 182 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: find an unsweetened one. I had to really go hunting today, Susie. 183 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: So I hope our listeners appreciate this line, especially very 184 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: wotable always at the moment, it's retailing for two dollars 185 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: for the UHD for the one liter ends It Australia made 186 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: in owned company as well, so I was quite impressed 187 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: with this one. And looking at the ingredient list, it's 188 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: pretty good. It's filtered water, it's organic whole soy beans, 189 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: minimum of fifteen percent organic sunflour, oil, plant calcium, and 190 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: sea salt. And you know, it's got a pretty clean 191 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: ingredient list per serving, which is two fifty mils so 192 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: a standard cup size, unlike the bon Soi is five 193 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: hundred kilodules per serving, seven point five grams of protein, 194 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: eight point five grams of fat. So this is a 195 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: higher fat soy milk compared to some of the others 196 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: of the market because of the addition of the oil. 197 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: And I'll talk about that in a second. So eight 198 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: point five grams of total fat, one gram of saturated, 199 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: three point eight grams of carbohydrate, two grams of sugar 200 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: that's naturally occurring sugars and less than a gram of 201 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: dietary fiber and thirty eight milligrams of sodium and three 202 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: hundred milligrams of calcium. So that's exactly what we want 203 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: to see, and I just realized, Suzie, I think the 204 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: dietary fiber. I thought that was all coming from the soybeans. 205 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: Actually think that's that Job's tier. They've added that, perhaps 206 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: for the taste, but also that's got to contribute to 207 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: the fiber profile because it has a very similar amount 208 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: of soybeans per cup. So this is less than a 209 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: gram and the other ones close to three grams. They 210 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: must be getting some sort of fiber out of that 211 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 2: Job's tier because it is a grain. 212 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: And I guess it would also give the consistency. Yeah, 213 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the things about soy 214 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: milk is that it's thicker and it sort of has 215 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: that mouth feel, you know what I mean. So I'm 216 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: wondering if that's where that comes into it as well. 217 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: It's a bit unique in that sense, whereas some of 218 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: the others will be very similar formulation. So perhaps that's 219 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: the sort of secret ingredient. People love it, But I 220 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: don't remember seeing that ingredient long term, So whether they 221 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: didn't declare it or whether it's a new because I 222 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: don't remember ever seeing that before on a label. 223 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: I don't either, And I looked it up today and 224 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: I thought what is that? 225 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: So, you know, it would be strange that suddenly started 226 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: to declare it, and it would also be strange that 227 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: they'd started to add it and change the formulation. So 228 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: these are whole questions we're not quite sure of. So 229 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: if anyone knows, how do share it. But I have never, 230 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: like you've seen that, and I think if I had 231 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: seen it on the label before, I would have sort 232 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: of thought, what is that? 233 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: So? Yeah? 234 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Interesting? Maybe it's like their secret ingredient. It's like the 235 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: KFC herbs and spice. 236 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the pure harvest one. I like 237 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: it because it's got a nice clean ingredient list. It 238 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: is a higher fat one versus the highest sugar one, 239 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: so I guess you know, pick your poison. But I 240 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: love the addition of the three hundred billigrams of calcium 241 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: per serving. And I love the price point, like two 242 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: dollars for a plant based milk that's high calcium. I 243 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: think that's really affordable for a lot of families. It is. 244 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: But the question I have for you, what does it 245 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: taste like? 246 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: I haven't. I must admit I haven't had this one. 247 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I must admit because that's the other thing we don't 248 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: like to sort of suggest products that don't taste amazing, 249 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: and I guess my thoughts would be, well, it might 250 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: be cleaner, but if it doesn't taste great, but certainly 251 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: nutritionally it comes up trumps. Like I just think it's great, 252 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: great amount of calcium, it's clean, nutritionally, very very strong. 253 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: So my only hesitation would be if it's not tasting 254 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: so amazing, but certainly it would be a product that 255 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I would absolutely recommend based on the nutritionals and the 256 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: very clean ingredient list and that great amount of calcium. 257 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: The only way I would see it being a better 258 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: product is if they added some vitamin D. But apart 259 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: from that, I think it's nine out of ten for 260 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: a soy milk. 261 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: It's great, and it's Aussie made and owned as well, 262 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: which we love. Of course we're always going to support local. 263 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: And the last one, Susie Am I say I'm a 264 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: little bit biased, this is the one I personally choose 265 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: to drink. It's the Vita soy milky, so it's a 266 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: light one, so it's a lower sugar one, the lower 267 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: sugar and sort of the lower fat one as well. 268 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: So there's a Vita soy soy milky. The normal range 269 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: is like a dark blue color than the light version, 270 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: which is a light blue color. So this one's two 271 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: dollars forty five at retails for at wool West for 272 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: the LITA and ingredient wise, we've got filtered water followed 273 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: by whole soy beans minimum fourteen percent raw sugar. So 274 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: shock horror, the finnessed dietician is drinking a soy milk 275 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: wood some added sugar. It's got minerals being calcium phosphate, 276 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: natural flavor, and some sea salt. So we get a 277 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: pretty clean ingredient list with the addition of the raw sugar. 278 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: So it's actually a small amount, I would say per serving. 279 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: So it's actually only four grams of sugar per serving, 280 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: but two of that's natural, two of that's added, so 281 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: it's not like I'm drinking a huge amount. And I 282 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: think it's perfectly acceptable if you've got a generally a 283 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: well balanced diet. And as I said, it is very 284 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: rare to actually find a soy milk on the market 285 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: that doesn't have a little bit of added sugar into it. 286 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: By far, this is one of the lower varieties on 287 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: the market, but you can absolutely go for the pure 288 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: Harvest one, which is no added sugar in it, if 289 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: that is your choice. But as I said, the pure 290 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Harvest one is higher fat. The Vita Soy Soy Milky 291 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: Light is actually it's lower fat, but it's higher sugar. 292 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: So I guess kind of you know, pick your poison, 293 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: see what you see, what you prefer. I preference the 294 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: lower calorie one with a little bit of added sugar 295 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: because I personally think it tastes nice. 296 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: And I think we should also say, you know, talking 297 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: about sugars in milk, so if you have dairy milk, 298 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: it's not added sugar, but you're still getting close to 299 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: eight grams of sugars from lactose per serve. So we 300 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: do tend to go crazy about added sugars in a 301 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: milk or a plant based milk. But it should be 302 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: said that these amounts of relative insignificant, given that that's 303 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: half the amount that you would get in a dairy 304 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: based milk. So you would be splitting hairs to say, right, well, 305 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: this is giving you four grams of added sugar in 306 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty mil which is sort of just 307 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, less than even two percent. It's still less. 308 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: Now is it worse because it's added a little bit, 309 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: But really it's splitting hairs nutritionally in the big scheme 310 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: of things. And my only sort of feedback to clients 311 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: would be if they were having two three serves of 312 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: this per day, whereas then those sugars are adding up 313 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: to sort of two three teaspoons. But if you were 314 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: having a single coffee per day, and that's quite a 315 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of milk in a coffee land, like two hundred 316 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: and fifty mili milk coffee would be quite a large latte, 317 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: like most of the smaller cups are giving you two 318 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: hundred and if you pickle or even less so in 319 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of a diet, if you're having a 320 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: sew milk coffee once a day that does have some sugar, 321 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the least bit concerned, particularly if you 322 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: prefer that flavor to the unsweetened. Of course, if you 323 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: like the unwea and even better. But again, you know 324 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: a great amount of calcium. Interesting they use calcium phosphate 325 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: as opposed to carbonate, And yeah, we'd just love to 326 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: see a little bit of vitamin D in there. So 327 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: apart from that, like it's the thumbs up. But I 328 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: think the thing with vitasoi is there's so many different ones. 329 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: I find it a little bit confusing. 330 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: There's the protein one a high, there's a higher calcium one. 331 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: As well, then there's a fiber one and a prebody. 332 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: All the different ones, there's a lot in the range, 333 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: so you know, definitely you've got to sort of have 334 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: your glasses on and be sure what you're getting because 335 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different varieties. 336 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: And I will say the reason I didn't pick the 337 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: extra calcium fortified one, in which I think someone particularly 338 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: perhaps amenopausal listeners, will be asking me for it's only 339 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: one hundred milligrams and more. Actually had a client who 340 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: was using it, and she was having two cups of 341 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: milk within about two three copies a day, and the 342 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: calorie load is a lot high, like this per cup 343 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: is ninety eight calories. The higher calcium one is one 344 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty calories per cup, and if you're doing 345 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: two or three cups of that per day, she was 346 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: drinking over five hundred calories in her coffees and for 347 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: an extra hundred logams or calcium, it just wasn't worth it. 348 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: Where are the calories coming from what are they putting 349 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: more sugar in there? That's a lot more calories. 350 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: You have to look that up. Let's look that up. Yeah, 351 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: that's a lot more. You look that up and I'll 352 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: go through the nutrition information panel because I haven't done that. 353 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: That's a lot more calories. But the other thing is 354 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: four hundred. This is three hundred. Yet it's not really 355 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: that much more, is it? 356 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: For one hundred milligrams and you know, an extra sixty 357 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: seven calories for wentworth it. So average nutrition information per 358 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: cup so per two to fifty mils. So we've got 359 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: just over four hundred kilo jules, which is about ninety 360 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: eight or one hundred calories per cup. Seven point five 361 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: grams of protein total, four point five grams of fat, 362 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: with zero point eight grams of that being saturated, so 363 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: very low saturated fat. Six point two grams of carbohydrate, 364 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: something we would consider, you know, a low carbohydrate product 365 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: per serving, four grams of sugar, two of that being 366 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: added to of that being natural, two hundred milligrams of sodium, 367 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: so not insignificant, I guess, and three hundred milligrams of calcium, 368 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: which is exactly what we want to see. So for 369 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: most I guess average assurants, it's you know, it's a 370 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: decent serve and it's probably about thirty to forty percent 371 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: of the recommended daily amount of calcium. So if you're 372 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: someone who doesn't really eat dairy, this is a wonderful product. 373 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: Or any plant based milk that's fortified with at least 374 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: three hundred milligrams of calcium is definitely a good thing. 375 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: So I would definitely recommend the vitisl one, and I 376 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: would also recommend the pure harvest one, pending taste. 377 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I've just had a quick look. It's got 378 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: more fat and so it's like a full fat you know, 379 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: seven eight grams of fat perserve, so almost double the fat. 380 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: I think of this one or three times, and a 381 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: lot more sugar carbohydrate fourteen grams and seven per serve. 382 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: And the only other benefit is that it's got a 383 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: vitamin D in it as well. So I would use 384 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: this product with my elderly clients who I was worried 385 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: about their bone health and who needed more calories. So 386 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like seventy eighty year old people who are 387 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: not having a whole lot and need a lot more 388 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: nutrition because their appetites reduced versus what you're saying, which 389 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: is this lightwire and all the unsweetened and much better 390 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: nutritionally for a younger audience who don't need as many calories. 391 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, and they've put in this one barley flower 392 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: as well. I'm wondering if it's a consistency and texture 393 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: thing to try and get it tasting good. If they're 394 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: adding so much stuff to. 395 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: It, is there a preiodic mention on the front of 396 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: the level like a Gutthal's mentioned or a fiber mension. 397 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: Perhaps that's why they're. 398 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Doing No, don't think so. It's more just calcy plus 399 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: enriched with CALCI and vitamin D, phosphors and magnesium. It's 400 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: really targeting boone hell. But you're right. It's a high 401 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: calorie product with a lot more fatten and a lot 402 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: more sugars relative to the other two you've compared, so 403 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: that's where's coming from. But yeah, not in significant calories, 404 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: particularly if you're having a few serves a day, So 405 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: good to know these different So it's very interesting of 406 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: vitamin A two actually in this one, so heavy fortification. 407 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: Vitamin B twelve good product for a vegan too, wonderful. 408 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks Sanne for that review on swy milk. 409 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: It's your personal favorite. That brings us to the end 410 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: of the Nutrition Couched product review for another week. If 411 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: you haven't done so, don't forget to subscribe and tell 412 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: all your friends about us. 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