1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Our last few plant milk reviews have had such fantastic 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: reviews that today we thought it was time to take 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: a closer look at one of ours. And when I 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: say ours, Leanne the favorite plant milks which is soy. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: And we've taken a close look at three very popular 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: different kinds of soy milk that you can find in 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the Ossi supermarkets. Hi I'm Cuzyburrow and Li lean Wood. 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: And as two of us Jays leading dieticians, we bring 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly chat on 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: new products and old favorites that you can find in supermarkets. Now, Leanne, 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: we thought it was time to do a whole milk section, 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and of course you have put your hands up to 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: not only do the plant milk write ups, but particularly 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: soy because I know that that is your choice of 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: when we go for coffee, that's your order, and you've 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: chosen some good ones. And on an episode, normally we 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: would take turns at running through it, but I'm up 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: in Brisbane actually visiting Leanne, and I don't have my 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: normal tech with me and I literally cannot see these 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: labels they're so small. So Leanne is going to take 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: over and take us through and I will just chirp 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: in with very valuable comments as we go. 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: All Right, Well, the first one I think I'll say 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: is probably the most popular, or the one that I 25 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: always see clients gravitate towards. So the one that I 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: would say is in the media a lot, and it's 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: the Bonsoy Long Life soy Milk. So this one is 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: in a one lead UHT pack and it's four dollars 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: eighty so it's very pricey, like nearly five dollars, and 30 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: it very rarely comes and sale from what I've seen, 31 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't exactly say that it was very affordable 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, but I do know it's 33 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: very popular. So I thought we'd start with this one today, Susie. 34 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: And when we go through the ingredient list, it starts 35 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: with filtered water, followed by organic whole soy beans minimum 36 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: of fourteen percent, followed by tapioca syrup, sea salt, jobs tea, 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: and calcium carbonate. Now there's two interesting ingredients in there, 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: one being tapiocis syrup, But I think people gravitate towards 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: slim because there's no easily visible sugar on the label. 40 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: But what a lot of people don't realize is that 41 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: the tapioca syrup is actually sugar and the job's tier. 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: I must be completely honest. I had to google. I 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: was like, what is jobs tear and water is it 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: doing in soy milk? So apparently it's a grain and 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: it's a cereal plant that's native to Southeast Asia. And 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: the grain is like a soft hold grain. It's dried 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: out and then it's sold, and so they use it 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: in things like jeury and some food products as well. 49 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: So I'm guessing it contributes to a little bit of 50 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: maybe the texture of the soy milk. Maybe it makes 51 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: it blend easier. I'm not entirely sure what it's doing 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: in there, but I imagine it's probably only a very 53 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: small amount, and there is a little bit of calcium 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: fortification happening, but it's not a huge amount when we 55 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: go through the nutrition panel. So this is quite weird 56 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: because I've never really seen a plant based milk that 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: does any sort of milk milk or plant based milk 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: that doesn't have a serving size of two fifty meals 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: like this one's two hundred mils, which I find very unusual. 60 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that before. 61 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: No, but I do wonder because I think bon sooy 62 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: comes from overseas, doesn't it? 63 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Does so. 64 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: I think that's got to do with a little bit 65 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: of the change in values. And I guess we should 66 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: say that soy milk is probably closest nutritionally to cow's milk. 67 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: It's just a plant based sauce. So when we look 68 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: at the nutritional profile, it's quite different from the previous 69 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: two that we've looked at when we looked at oat 70 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: and almond milk. Certainly, when we're trying to replicate the 71 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: nutritional profile of cow's milk and dairy, soy is a 72 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: lot closer nutritionally. But it is a bit out of 73 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: fashion at the moment, isn't it. 74 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: Soy? 75 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: I haven't had clients say they're using soyfa agent. Well, 76 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm bringing it back, susy, bringing it back, baby. So 77 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: should I convert it to two fifteen meals? 78 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't really want to compare it via a hundred 79 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: mills because no offense, no one really has one hundred 80 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: meals of milk. Most people would have a standard cup 81 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: of milk if they're making a coffee. Okay, yeah, convert 82 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: it okay, So basically what we're going to do is 83 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to try my best to convert it with 84 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: my calculator in hand, because I must admit mass is 85 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: not my strong point. So we've got roughly six hundred 86 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: kilo jewels per serving, so per two fifty meals, which 87 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: is on average about just about one hundred and forty 88 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: five calories. Protein Wise, we have about ten grams of 89 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: protein per serve, which we would expect in a soy 90 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: milk because so is naturally higher. And then fat wise, 91 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: we've got about five and a half grams of fat, 92 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: with very low saturated fat under a gram of saturated fat. 93 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: Now carbohydrate, we have nearly fourteen grams of carbohydrate per cup, 94 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: with about five and a half grams of sugar per 95 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: cup as well, so that is some of that is 96 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: added sugar from the Tabiogi syrup as well. Now they 97 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: have actually listed dietary fiber in here as well, which 98 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: you're getting from the soybeans that are added in here, 99 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: and dietary fiber is three and a half grams per cup, 100 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: so that's actually quite a lot in something like a 101 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: plant based milk. They've actually also listed potassium as well, 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: which I find interesting. And potassium per cup is three 103 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty milligrams, and calcium I'm not loving Susie 104 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: because it's quite low. It's only sixty three milligrams per cup, 105 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: which I just think, I don't know my mind of 106 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: like why bother well. 107 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: I think it's it's interesting because when we look at 108 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: the Australian plant based milks, if they do contain calcium, 109 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: they do tend to have that massive two hundred three 110 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: hundred milligrams, you know, a really decent serve. And I 111 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: do wonder because this product I'm going to look u 112 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: where it comes from, is not a low cool product 113 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: and perhaps oversees the demand for that fortification is not 114 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: so high because bon Sooi has had that level of 115 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: calcium as long as I've been a dietitian. It's always 116 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: had a little bit, but just not so much celcinc carbonate. 117 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: So that's probably not our ideal preferred type of calcium. 118 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: When it comes to absorption factors. It's sort of relatively insignificant, 119 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're getting a little bit, 120 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: as you would from a serve of leg humes, but 121 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: it's certainly not replicating a dairy by any way, shape 122 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: or form. You know this so being quantity is similar 123 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: across the board in terms of amounts. But I think 124 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: my understanding of Bon Soi fans is it's a flavor thing. 125 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: They love the taste. There's something that tastes amazing. Do 126 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: you think it has that distinct taste and flavor because 127 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: of the like the sweetness that's added. 128 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think it's one of the 129 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: highest sugar varieties on the on the market, not by 130 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: anything extravagant, but it's definitely got a couple of extragrams 131 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 2: in some of the other brands. So I will admit 132 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: like it tastes good. I definitely frequent cafes that use 133 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: Bonsoi as their preferred soy milk of choice, and I 134 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: must admit it does make a really nice coffee. But 135 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: when I'm someone that uses soy milk on a regular basis, 136 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: like I would some days have one to two cups 137 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: of milk avls having a bit of cereal having it 138 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: in my poroadge making it smoothie, than having it in 139 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: my coffee as well at home. So I definitely preference 140 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: another brand which is a lot more affordable and b 141 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: actually has a required calcium in there for me, particularly 142 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: when I was pregnant and breastfeeding as well, because it's 143 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: something a nutrient that we really want to watch out 144 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: for as calcium. So this isn't my topic. I definitely. 145 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever recommended this for clients, Susie, 146 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: but I must say it does taste nice and I 147 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: don't mind it occasionally in you know, in my local 148 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: coffee shop. 149 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Bond Soy was the first modern Japanese soy milk to 150 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: arrive in Australia. 151 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. So it's Japanese. 152 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: I think it's it is Australia, but they're modeling it 153 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: on a Japanese profile. 154 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. The factory is in Victoria. Well, there you go. 155 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: It's local, so it's basically seems to be replicating a 156 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: Japanese recipe. 157 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: Or they source the organic soybeans from the US and 158 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: from Canada. That's why it's got the claims about GMO 159 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: on there, because I think that, you know, Americans are 160 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: very concerned about GMO. 161 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this product get exported. I think 162 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: you can buy just once around the world. Yeah, very interesting, 163 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: But I've always wondered if it was that was why 164 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: the calcium levels would remain low. But obviously they're following 165 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: a very distinct formula and if it's not broken, you 166 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: don't have to fix it. And it's such a popular 167 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: type of milk, but nutritionally, I wouldn't probably recommend it 168 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: one because it's way too expensive, like four dollars eighty 169 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: for a liter for families. That's that's up there. And 170 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I like any kind of soy to have some decent calcium. 171 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: But you know, if you love it and occasionally have 172 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: a you know, cafe coffee, but it wouldn't be on 173 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: my list of ones that I would recommend people buy 174 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: just based on the calcium alone, agreed. And we don't 175 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: love added sugar to milk, you know what I mean, 176 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: It's not ideal. 177 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: And then the second one I've gone for is the 178 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: pure harvest organic soy unsweetened. So I must say that 179 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: the majority of soy milk's on the market or found 180 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: in super markets are sweet. It's actually very rare to 181 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: find an unsweetened one. I had to really go hunting today, Susie, 182 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: So I hope our listeners appreciate this one, especially very 183 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: if aoudable will wors At the moment, it's retailing for 184 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: two dollars for the UHD for the one liter and 185 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: is it Australia made in owned company as well. So 186 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: I was quite impressed with this one, and looking at 187 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: the ingredient list, it's pretty good. It's filtered water, it's 188 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: organic whole soy beans, minimum of fifteen percent organic sunflour, oil, 189 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: plant calcium, and sea salt. And you know, it's got 190 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: a pretty clean ingredient list per serving, which is two 191 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: fifty mils so a standard cup size, unlike the bon 192 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Soi is five hundred kilodules per serving, seven point five 193 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: grams of protein, eight point five grams of fat. So 194 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: this is a higher fat soy milk compared to some 195 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: of the others of the market because of the addition 196 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: of the oil. And I'll talk about that in a second. 197 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: So eight point five grams of total fat, one gram 198 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: of saturated, three point eight grams of carbohydrate, two grams 199 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: of sugar that's naturally occurring sugars and less than a 200 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: gram of dietary fiber, and thirty eight milligrams of sodium 201 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: and three hundred milligrams of calcium. So that's exactly what 202 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: we want to see. And I just realized, Suzie, I 203 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: think the dietary fiber. I thought that was all coming 204 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: from the soybeans. Actually think that's that Job's tier. They've 205 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: added that, perhaps for the taste, but also that's got 206 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: to contribute to the fiber profile because it has a 207 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: very similar amount of soybeans per cup, So this is 208 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: less than a gram and the other ones close to 209 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: three grams. They must be getting some sort of fiber 210 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 2: out of that Job's tier because it is a grain. 211 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: And I guess it would also give the consistency. Yeah, 212 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the things about soy 213 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: milk is that it's thicker and it sort of has 214 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: that mouth feel, you know what I mean. So I'm 215 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: wondering if that's where that comes into it as well. 216 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: It's a bit unique in that sense, whereas some of 217 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: the others will be very similar formulation. So perhaps that's 218 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: the sort of secret ingredient. 219 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: People love it. 220 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: But I don't remember seeing that ingredient long term, so 221 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: whether they didn't declare it or whether it's a new 222 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: because I don't remember ever seeing that before on a label, I. 223 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: Don't either, And I looked it up today and I thought, 224 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: what is that? 225 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: So, you know, it would be strange they suddenly started 226 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to declare it, and it would also be strange that 227 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: they'd started to add it and change the formulation. So 228 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: these are whole questions. We're not quite sure. So if 229 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: anyone knows, how do share it? But I have never 230 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, you've seen that, And I think if I 231 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: had seen it on the label before, I would have 232 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: sort of thought, what is that? 233 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: So? Yeah? 234 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Interesting? Maybe it's like their secret ingredient. It's like the 235 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: KFC herbs and spice. 236 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the pure harvest one. I like 237 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: it because it's got a nice clean ingredient list. It 238 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: is a higher fat one versus a higher sugar one, 239 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: so I guess, you know, pick your poison. But I 240 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: love the addition of the three hundred milligrams of calcium 241 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: per serving, and I love the price point, like two 242 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: dollars for a plant based milk that's high calcium. I 243 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: think that's really affordable for a lot of families. It is. 244 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: But the question I have for you, what does it 245 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: taste like? 246 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: I haven't. 247 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: I must admit I haven't had this one. I must admit, 248 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: because that's the other thing. We don't like to sort 249 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: of suggest products that don't taste amazing. And I guess 250 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: my thoughts would be, well, it might be cleaner, but 251 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: if it doesn't taste great, but certainly nutritionally it comes 252 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: up trumps. Like I think it's great, great amount of calcium, 253 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: it's clean, nutritionally, very very strong. So my only hesitation 254 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: would be if it's not tasting so amazing, but certainly 255 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: it would be a product that I would absolutely recommend 256 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: based on the nutritionals and the very clean ingredient list 257 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: and that great amount of calcium. The only way I 258 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: would see it being a better product is if they 259 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: added some vitamin D. But apart from that, I think 260 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: it's nine out of ten for a soy milk. 261 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: It's great, and it's Aussie made and owned as well, 262 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: which we love. Of course we're always going to support local. 263 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: And the last one SUSI am. I say I'm a 264 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: little bit biased. This is the one I personally choose 265 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: to drink. It's the Vita soy milky, so it's a 266 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: light one, so it's a lower sugar one, the lower 267 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: sugar and sort of the lower fat one as well, 268 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: so there's a Vita soy soy milky. The normal range 269 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: is like a dark blue color than the light version, 270 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: which is a light blue color. So this one's two 271 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: dollars forty five at retails four at wool West for 272 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: the LITA and ingredient wise, we've got filtered water followed 273 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: by whole soy beans minimum fourteen percent raw sugar. So shock, horror, 274 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 2: the finessed artician is drinking a soy milk woods amounted sugar. 275 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: It's got minerals being calcium phosphate, natural flavor, and some 276 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: sea salt, so we get a pretty clean ingredient list 277 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: with the addition of the raw sugar. So it's actually 278 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: a small amount, I would say per serving. So it's 279 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: actually only four grams of sugar per serving, but two 280 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: of that's natural, two of that's added, so it's not 281 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: like I'm drinking a huge amount. And I think it's 282 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: perfectly acceptable if you've got a generally a well balanced diet. 283 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: And as I said, it is very rare to actually 284 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: find a soy milk on the market that doesn't have 285 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: a little bit of added sugar into it. By far, 286 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: this is one of the lower varieties on the market. 287 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: But you can absolutely go for the pure Harvest one, 288 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: which is no added sugar in it, if that is 289 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: your choice. But as I said, the Pure Harvest one 290 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 2: is higher fat. The Vita Soy Soy Milky Light is 291 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: actually it's lower fat, but it's higher sugar. So I 292 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: guess kind of you know, pick your poison, see what 293 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: you see, what you prefer. I preference the lower calorie 294 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: one with a little bit of added sugar because I 295 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: personally think it tastes nice. 296 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: And I think we should also say, you know, talking 297 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: about sugars in milk, so if you have your dairy milk, 298 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: it's not added sugar, but you're still getting close to 299 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: eight grams of sugars from lactose per serve. So we 300 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: do tend to go crazy about added sugars in a 301 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: milk or a plant based milk. But it should be 302 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: said that these amounts of relative insignificant, given that that's 303 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: half the amount that you would get in a dairy 304 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: based milk. So you would be splitting hairs to say, right, well, 305 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: this is giving you four grams of added sugar in 306 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty mil which is sort of just 307 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, less than even two percent, it's still less. 308 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: Now is it worse because it's added a little bit, 309 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: But really it's splitting hairs nutritionally in the big scheme 310 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: of things, And my only sort of feedback to clients 311 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: would be if they were having two three serves of 312 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: this per day, whereas then those sugars are adding up 313 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: to sort of two three tea spoons. But if you 314 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: were having a single coffee per day, and that's quite 315 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of milk in a coffee land, like two 316 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty mili milk coffee would be quite a 317 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: large latte, like most of the smaller cups are giving 318 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: you two hundred and if you pickle or even less so. 319 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: In the grand scheme of a diet, if you're having 320 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: a swiw milk coffee once a day that does have 321 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: some sugar, I wouldn't be the least bit concerned, particularly 322 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: if you prefer that flavor to the unsweetened. Of course, 323 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: if you like the unswa and even better. But again, 324 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: you know a great amount of calcium. Interesting they use 325 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: calcium phosphate as opposed to carbonate, And yeah, we'd just 326 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: love to see a little bit of vitamin D in 327 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: there so apart from that, like it's the thumbs up, 328 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: But I think the thing with vitasoi is there's so 329 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: many different ones. I find it a little bit confusing. 330 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: There's the protein one a high, there's a higher calcium one. 331 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: As well, then there's a fiber one and or prebody. 332 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: All the different ones, there's a lot in the range, 333 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: so you know, definitely you've got to sort of have 334 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: your glasses on and be sure what you're getting because 335 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different varieties. 336 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: And I will say the reason I didn't pick the 337 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: extra calcium fortified one in which I think someone particularly 338 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: perhaps a metapausal listeners will be asking me for it's 339 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: only one hundred milligrams and more. Actually had a client 340 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: who was using it, and she was having two cups 341 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: of milk within about two three copies a day, and 342 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: the calorie load is a lot higher, like this per 343 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: cup is ninety eight calories. The higher calcium one is 344 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty calories per cup, and if you're 345 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: doing two or three cups of that per day, she 346 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: was drinking over five hundred calories in her coffees and 347 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: for an extra hundred logams or calcium it just wasn't 348 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: worth it. Where are the. 349 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Calories coming from? What are they putting more sugar in there? 350 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: That's a lot more calories. 351 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: You have to look that up. Let's look that up. Yeah, 352 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: that's a lot more you look that up, and I'll 353 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: go through the nutrition information panel because I haven't done that. 354 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: We look at it. 355 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: That's a lot more calories. But the other thing is 356 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: four hundred. This is three hundred. Yet it's not really 357 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: that much more, is it? 358 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: For one hundred milligrams and you know, an extra sixty 359 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: seven calories, we went not worth it. So average nutrition 360 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: information per cup so per two fifty mils. So we've 361 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: got just over four hundred kilo duels, which is about 362 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: ninety eight or one hundred calories per cup. Seven point 363 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: five grams of protein total, four point five grams of 364 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: fat withero point eight grams of that being saturated's so 365 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: very low saturated fat. Six point two grams of carbohydrate 366 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: something we would consider, you know, a low carbohydrate product 367 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: per serving, four grams of sugar, two of that being 368 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: added to of that being natural, two hundred milligrams of sodium. 369 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: So not insignificant, I guess, and three hundred milligrams of calcium, 370 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: which is exactly what we want to see. So for 371 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: most I guess average assurants, it's you know, it's a 372 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: decent serve and it's probably about thirty to forty percent 373 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: of the recommended daily amount of calcium. So if you're 374 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: someone who doesn't really eat dairy, this is a wonderful product. 375 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: Or any plant based milk that's fortified with as at 376 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: least three hundred milligrams of calcium is definitely a good thing. 377 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: So I would definitely recommend the vitisl one, and I 378 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: would also recommend the pure harvest one, pending taste. 379 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, so I've just had a quick look. It's got 380 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: more fat and so it's like a full fat you know, 381 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: seven eight grams of fat per serve, so almost double 382 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: the fat. I think of this one or three times, 383 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: and a lot more sugar carbohydrate fourteen grams and seven 384 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: per serve. And the only other benefit is that it's 385 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: got a vitamin D in it as well. So I 386 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: would use this product with my elderly clients who I 387 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: was worried about their bone health and who needed more calories. 388 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking like seventy eighty year old people who 389 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: are not having a whole lot and need a lot 390 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: more nutrition because their appetites reduced versus what you're saying, 391 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: which is this lightwire and all the unsweetened and much 392 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: better nutritionally for a younger audience who don't need as 393 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: many calories. So yeah, and they've put in this one 394 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: barley flower as well. I'm wondering if it's a consistency 395 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: and texture thing to try and get it tasting good. 396 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: If they're adding so much stuff to. 397 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: It, is there a preiodic mention on the front of 398 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: the level like a gutthal's mentioned or a fiber mension. 399 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: Perhaps that's why they've done it. No, don't think so. 400 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: It's more just calcy plasts enriched with calci and vitamin D, 401 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: phosphorus and magnesium. It's really targeting boone hell. But you're right, 402 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: it's a high calorie product with a lot more fatten 403 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: and a lot more sugars relative to the other two 404 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: you've compared, so that's where it's coming from. But yeah, 405 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: not insignificant calories, particularly if you're having a few serves 406 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: a day, So good to know these different So it's 407 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: very interesting of vitamin A two actually on this one 408 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: so heavy fortification Vitamin B twelve good product for a vegan, 409 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: too wonderful? All right, well, thanks Ianne for that review 410 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: on sown mill. It's your personal favorite. 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