Speaker 1: Come on in.
Speaker 2: Oh we're on Hello Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Bear the odd today? Is it odd?
Speaker 4: Or is it really happy? Brint walked in like a
Speaker 4: bulleted gate.
Speaker 5: Okay, well I ducked to Hamilton Island on the weekend,
Speaker 5: so I'm feeling refreshed. I took my lover Ben there
Speaker 5: because I wanted to really impress him with Australia.
Speaker 2: And I mean, if you want to be impressed and
Speaker 2: go to Hamilton Island.
Speaker 5: But this morning Ben and I did our first official
Speaker 5: photo shoot.
Speaker 2: Now we did an unofficial photoshooty.
Speaker 6: Sorry, you say that as if everyone has it. When
Speaker 6: everyone when.
Speaker 7: You've just given birth and you have like the first
Speaker 7: photo shoot for your newborn baby, you've had like a
Speaker 7: first photo shoot for your relationship.
Speaker 5: That's correct, Yes, yeah, totally normal photo.
Speaker 3: So what's the photo shoot for.
Speaker 5: It's for a Stellar magazine. They wanted to do like
Speaker 5: a little thing on us.
Speaker 7: Also totally normal. That's exactly what everyone does when they
Speaker 7: have a new relationship.
Speaker 3: Normal.
Speaker 5: But seeing Ben so Ben Ben plays football. Ben is
Speaker 5: not he's not dainty and he's not a model. But
Speaker 5: he It was seeing him from the camera and in
Speaker 5: our world a little bit, and he was beautiful clothes
Speaker 5: on and he was doing all these model.
Speaker 2: Faces and he's like, babies, it's okay. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're doing really well.
Speaker 5: And then I saw the photo and I was like, like, damn.
Speaker 5: If I wasn't already dating you, i'd want to date you.
Speaker 7: Well, you spend your morning having a lovely photo shoot,
Speaker 7: and I spent my morning cleaning dog pool off my child,
Speaker 7: who did like a body.
Speaker 4: Slide across the backyard. She was okay, I like, I
Speaker 4: shook the mandarin tree. A mandarins fell down.
Speaker 7: She body slid across the yard and body slid straight
Speaker 7: over dog pooh.
Speaker 3: Body actually slide, yeah, slide. Yeah.
Speaker 5: You just hold them by a foot.
Speaker 3: It's awful.
Speaker 7: You throw them in the bit and have a third Wow.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, I want to tell you about a woman.
Speaker 5: We've all we have all been ghosted in our life,
Speaker 5: right or we've all been a ghoster, you know when
Speaker 5: you just go up and leave. So I've been a
Speaker 5: ghost and a ghost. I think I've probably done both too.
Speaker 5: I want to tell you about the ultimate ghosting story.
Speaker 5: There is no ghosting story I have ever heard in
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Speaker 3: BRIT's got a ghost story.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's not a real life ghost story, although I
Speaker 5: do see ghosts, but that's that's a.
Speaker 2: Story in itself.
Speaker 3: Do you know about Laura that she saw ghosts?
Speaker 4: She does.
Speaker 5: I have a story for you about the ultimate ghosting
Speaker 5: story in a relationship.
Speaker 8: Now, it's an Aussie woman who goes by the name.
Speaker 4: Is a Belle.
Speaker 2: She doesn't go by the name. Her name is Isabelle
Speaker 2: Glassenbury and she's thirty one years old.
Speaker 5: Now. Her ghosting story is one for the ages. I
Speaker 5: feel very sorry for her. She met her husband, who
Speaker 5: was a Texan. She met him back in twenty fifteen
Speaker 5: and they moved down Under in twenty eighteen. Now, if
Speaker 5: you do the mass, that's eight years they've been together.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 8: She got married.
Speaker 5: Her family paid for this amazing wed and fifty thousand
Speaker 5: dollars in Sydney. Her parents also helped pay for his visa,
Speaker 5: which was ten thousand dollars. Because you know, that's what
Speaker 5: you do when you're in love, and that's what you
Speaker 5: do for your family to help them have the ultimate
Speaker 5: beautiful family life. You know, they've been together like six
Speaker 5: to eight years. You want them to have the happy life.
Speaker 5: She went out to celebrate him getting his visa, his
Speaker 5: Australian visa. She came home from the dinner to a
Speaker 5: house that ninety percent of the furniture and his stuff
Speaker 5: was gone one day after the visa. Anyway, she tried
Speaker 5: logging into the immigration accounts, but she'd been locked out
Speaker 5: of everything, all accounts, Her credit card was.
Speaker 3: Maxed, was blocked by the cowboy, by.
Speaker 5: The Texan cowboy, the texting ghost, and none of her
Speaker 5: calls and messages of going through.
Speaker 2: It's actually really really sad.
Speaker 4: It's really hard.
Speaker 7: To go someone these days because everyone has social media.
Speaker 7: Or did he just delete all of his social media?
Speaker 7: He deleted his entire life.
Speaker 2: It's the ultimate ghost.
Speaker 5: In eight years, he put in the long game for
Speaker 5: that visa and then he left.
Speaker 6: Wouldn't the red flag be that he wasn't at his
Speaker 6: own visa celebration at dinner and she went home.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Look, it just says she was out celebrating his visa acquirement,
Speaker 5: but I think I think she was celebrating with her
Speaker 5: own parents, maybe because they were the ones that paid
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 2: So maybe, look, bitch, you're asking the technical questions.
Speaker 7: Okay, I don't think that this guy met her back
Speaker 7: in twenty fifteen and thought, you know what, in eight
Speaker 7: years time, I mean it, this is the girl who's
Speaker 7: going to get me into Australia.
Speaker 4: I reckon.
Speaker 7: They were in her relationship, he loved her, he was happy,
Speaker 7: and then eventually the wheels started falling off the wagon
Speaker 7: and they were already married, and he was like, well,
Speaker 7: look I'm just gonna wait for my visa to come through.
Speaker 7: He's so chicken that he couldn't deal with the confrontation
Speaker 7: and just walk away from the relationships.
Speaker 3: I have another theory.
Speaker 4: He was aducted by alien.
Speaker 6: He was abducted, and then the house was broken into
Speaker 6: that same night and all their stuff was taken.
Speaker 2: This is horrific.
Speaker 5: Heaps of people reported it into immigration and no one
Speaker 5: did anything about it. And you know what the icing
Speaker 5: on the cake is, Yeah, one year later to the day,
Speaker 5: he got married again.
Speaker 4: Oh, he was having an affair.
Speaker 5: He's a scam artist, or he is having an affair,
Speaker 5: or he's.
Speaker 3: Just a dick.
Speaker 6: I feel like people have ghosting stories out there, Like
Speaker 6: you go on, you catch up with a friend after
Speaker 6: a couple of years of not seeing him, and I
Speaker 6: feel like everyone's friend has a ghosting story.
Speaker 4: I've ghosted a couple of people in my time.
Speaker 7: I'm very conflict avoidant, so I would just not reply
Speaker 7: to them after a bad dates and just never text
Speaker 7: him again.
Speaker 5: It's a difference with not replying to a bumble and
Speaker 5: ghosting them and marrying them for eight years and then
Speaker 5: being like Maye and.
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Speaker 7: next on the show, this is a big celeb. I
Speaker 7: mean we have Jason Derulo.
Speaker 3: On this show. We've got massive stars.
Speaker 6: But next, one of Laura's favorite celebs, doctor Justin Coulson
Speaker 6: from Parental Guidance on Channel nine. If you're thinking about
Speaker 6: putting your kids on social media, parents, this is going
Speaker 6: to be a chat you're not gonna want to miss.
Speaker 3: We'll do it.
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Speaker 6: real interesting show back on Channel nine at the moment, Guys,
Speaker 6: Parental Guidance hosted by Ali Lingdon. It was on last night,
Speaker 6: it's back on tonight. Everyone's loving it by the Parental
Speaker 6: Guidance expert, doctor Justin Coulson is joining us.
Speaker 3: Now, you guys know this guy. He's a superstar. He's
Speaker 3: a legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a legend in a parenting world.
Speaker 7: And I also think that because I'm the one here
Speaker 7: that has kids like this is this is my wheelhouse,
Speaker 7: this is my show.
Speaker 6: Are you kN I mean Justin's there, But you're a
Speaker 6: big fan of you're wearing a Justin Colson Shirtman.
Speaker 4: You got the cap Hi doctor Justin? How are you going?
Speaker 3: Welcome?
Speaker 1: It's so nice to be with you, guys. I didn't
Speaker 1: know the shirt was available already.
Speaker 7: That's correct, it is.
Speaker 4: We're selling it as merch after the show as well.
Speaker 7: For anyone who hasn't seen what Parental Guidance is, can
Speaker 7: you give us a little bit of an overview of
Speaker 7: what the show actually entails.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Sure.
Speaker 1: We get a whole bunch of parents who have very
Speaker 1: different parenting styles. They go through a range of different
Speaker 1: challenges with their kids, and then we watch those challenges
Speaker 1: back and pretty much say, hey, what did you like
Speaker 1: and what didn't you like? What can we learn about
Speaker 1: parenting from your parenting style?
Speaker 7: When you have these different, very different types of parenting styles,
Speaker 7: and as someone who is a psychologist, do you look
Speaker 7: at these and say some of them are vastly better
Speaker 7: than others or is it just a case that they're different?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so very much. The second one, like, there are
Speaker 1: definitely things that you can do that will mess up
Speaker 1: your kids, but we're very very careful with the parents
Speaker 1: woul dream. Under this show, they go through psychological tar
Speaker 1: and we make sure that they're good parents who are
Speaker 1: raising their kids well. But gee, they do it differently.
Speaker 1: I mean you've got out back parents who are teaching
Speaker 1: their kids to shoot guns and drive cars from the
Speaker 1: age of eight or nine, and then you've got gentle
Speaker 1: parents who don't ever raise their voices to their kids.
Speaker 6: What I loved watching was the parents that have their
Speaker 6: children on social media. So this was on the show
Speaker 6: last night if anyone missed it.
Speaker 3: Our parents and Style as influencer.
Speaker 2: As they explore parenting.
Speaker 9: Are you blocking your ears?
Speaker 7: Right here in the digital age, our rules around technology
Speaker 7: are basically non existent.
Speaker 4: I'm curious what a Wow gave your kids an account?
Speaker 5: Maybe she's up to five hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 6: Now what's your stance on this on because Laura, your
Speaker 6: kids are on social media and they have been from
Speaker 6: a young age.
Speaker 7: I mean my kids don't have social media. They're two
Speaker 7: and three. That they appear on my social media?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, where do you stand on that?
Speaker 6: Justin like kids on social media, then kids having their
Speaker 6: own social media accounts?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Laura is doing what we call share and ping,
Speaker 1: which is where we're sharing the lives of our children
Speaker 1: on social media. And this is a pre provocative and
Speaker 1: controversial thing in and of itself, because one day the
Speaker 1: kids might look back and say, Hey, I wanted privacy
Speaker 1: and now I'm an adult, I don't like the fact
Speaker 1: that my life is everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 9: Then we've got.
Speaker 1: These parents, Jonathan and kat who frankly, I think that
Speaker 1: they represent themselves so well. And what they're saying is,
Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, social media is part
Speaker 1: of the fabric of the society in which we live.
Speaker 1: And you can try to keep your kids off it
Speaker 1: all you like, but they will be on it. So
Speaker 1: isn't it better to teach them how to use it well?
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that they're doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 7: Do you think it affects children in terms of how
Speaker 7: they get validation? How is that going to impact kids
Speaker 7: as they get older?
Speaker 1: Okay, so two things here. First of all, I want
Speaker 1: to get technical and legal for a sec that whole
Speaker 1: thirteen years of age that only exists because in America,
Speaker 1: when social media is being developed, the lobbyists and the
Speaker 1: technology companies had lots of meetings with the politicians in
Speaker 1: Congress and decided on what we might call the a
Speaker 1: age of Internet maturity, and there were some people who
Speaker 1: were saying you need to be eighteen, some people saying fifteen.
Speaker 1: In the end, they chose thirteen. And all it means
Speaker 1: is American companies and not allowed to collect data on
Speaker 1: people under the age of thirteen. That's the only reason
Speaker 1: that rule of Instagram at thirteen is there. It's true
Speaker 1: that some of them will get caught up in how
Speaker 1: many likes they're getting, how many shares they're getting, and
Speaker 1: how many followers they've got. What I would say, though,
Speaker 1: is there are probably in most kids' lives many many
Speaker 1: more things that matter so much more in terms of
Speaker 1: their welfare and their wellbeing than how many likes they're getting,
Speaker 1: Like the quality of the relationship they have with you
Speaker 1: as parents or with their friends, the extracurricular activities they're doing,
Speaker 1: and what they're doing well in life. All that stuff,
Speaker 1: I reckon is going to have a much bigger impact
Speaker 1: on their self esteem and their wellbeing than how many
Speaker 1: followers they've gone.
Speaker 8: My worry is who's watching these If you go on
Speaker 8: to some of these kids instagrams and you look at
Speaker 8: the followers and the people that are liking this content,
Speaker 8: I mean, a lot of them are people that shouldn't
Speaker 8: be there.
Speaker 2: It's not the man, they're men from other countries. They're
Speaker 2: adults that you're like, what are you getting from this?
Speaker 8: And I guess that's.
Speaker 5: Where my worry comes into having a nine year old
Speaker 5: or below on social media.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who should not be
Speaker 1: in there who are, and they are approaching our kids.
Speaker 1: Once again, Jonathan Kat the influencer parents, they're really clear
Speaker 1: that when they're dealing with their younger child, their nine
Speaker 1: year old and her social media accounts, they're involved, they're monitoring,
Speaker 1: they're having conversations, and they're actively teaching how to be safe.
Speaker 1: And frankly, we've got to do it. Whether our kids
Speaker 1: want to be influencers or YouTube stars or professional gamers,
Speaker 1: or whether they're just like the average kid who has
Speaker 1: an account and wants to hang out with their friends,
Speaker 1: we've got to be involved to keep them safe. It's
Speaker 1: critically important, not in a controlling way, but in a
Speaker 1: I'm the wise adult in this relationship, and we need
Speaker 1: to talk about this.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 6: You can get the Happy Families podcast now. It's available
Speaker 6: on the iHeartRadio app. If you want to have a
Speaker 6: listen that's brilliant and of course Parental Guidance with doctor
Speaker 6: Justin Coulson tonight seven thirty on Channel nine. Thank you
Speaker 6: for coming on the Pickup, doctor Justin appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, also be with you and just on the podcast.
Speaker 1: We're doing mega recaps of every episode at the moment,
Speaker 1: so definitely worth checking it out if you get a.
Speaker 3: Chance, right, get it on.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks so much.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know I'd be.
Speaker 6: Interested to open the lines on thirteen one oh six
Speaker 6: five and just get just pull the land.
Speaker 7: Well, I want to know, like, do you have your
Speaker 7: kids on social media? And if so, honey, navigate it.
Speaker 7: But like for the people who are very against it,
Speaker 7: why are you against it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's do it after this on the Pickup Tuesday afternoon.
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Speaker 7: Now, we were just talking to one of Australia's most
Speaker 7: trusted parenting experts. His name is doctor Coulson. He's on
Speaker 7: Parental Guidance the new TV show Channel nine. Oh my god,
Speaker 7: it's very brilliant. If you're a parent who's just fumbling
Speaker 7: your way through trying to figure out the right way
Speaker 7: to parent, as we all are.
Speaker 4: It is a truly brilliant show.
Speaker 7: But we got talking about social media and whether it's
Speaker 7: okay to have your kids on social media or not,
Speaker 7: because there is one family who is on the show
Speaker 7: at the moment and they have a nine year old
Speaker 7: who has their own social media account. They have like
Speaker 7: five hundred thousand followers, and they're also making money as
Speaker 7: a nine year old off the social media account. I mean,
Speaker 7: my kids, they feature on my social media from time
Speaker 7: to time. But I think that there's a really big
Speaker 7: difference between making money from your children on social media
Speaker 7: and just sharing kind of like the highlight reel.
Speaker 3: Of what's happening in your life.
Speaker 7: Because if you're a mummy blogger and that's your one
Speaker 7: and only job is to be a mummy blogger and
Speaker 7: to talk about the experience of parenting, and that's how
Speaker 7: you make all your money. I think the big issue
Speaker 7: with that type of social media is that then it
Speaker 7: makes it really hard to say no when jobs come in.
Speaker 7: So instead of being able to have a good litmus
Speaker 7: for the types of things that you share about your kids.
Speaker 7: If all your income is tied up on social media
Speaker 7: and you don't have any other ways of making an income,
Speaker 7: it makes it really challenging to say I don't want
Speaker 7: to do that job or I don't want to put
Speaker 7: my kid in that campaign, because ultimately you're saying no
Speaker 7: to money.
Speaker 2: Kids get the money. Are you putting it in an
Speaker 2: account for the kids?
Speaker 5: Like where's are going? Are the kids earning the money
Speaker 5: for the parents and the parents are just using it themselves.
Speaker 5: I think there's a whole other layer to it.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 7: Also means right that you need to share the more
Speaker 7: and more personal, the more vulnerable, the more challenging parts
Speaker 7: of parenting that you share, the bigger your community gets
Speaker 7: online because the more mums relate to it, the more
Speaker 7: they want to talk about it, and that's how you
Speaker 7: kind of grow your following. But the thing I think
Speaker 7: is really worrying about that is that if you're sharing
Speaker 7: the really vulnerable bits about your parenting experience, you're also
Speaker 7: sharing the really vulnerable bits about your kids as well,
Speaker 7: and your kids can't opt into that. And that's where
Speaker 7: I think it's a bit of a gray area where
Speaker 7: this sharenting thing can go too far.
Speaker 6: It's all well and good to say kids are on
Speaker 6: social media and then assume that kids are the only
Speaker 6: people engaging with that content, but it's not true. There
Speaker 6: are creeps on the Internet that look at content.
Speaker 4: So what about their privacy?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 6: I think social media overall for children would have an
Speaker 6: overarchingly negative effect.
Speaker 3: Oh it does.
Speaker 2: It's proven, and.
Speaker 4: It's so addictive.
Speaker 7: That's the big thing, more so than just having a
Speaker 7: data impact. It's so addictive.
Speaker 6: We've got Emma on thirteen one or six five high. Emma,
Speaker 6: you've got your kids. What does your stance on this?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 9: I am yeah. I have an eleven year old daughter,
Speaker 9: and I just feel like she doesn't need social media
Speaker 9: right now. She has the rest of her life to
Speaker 9: be on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook. So why does
Speaker 9: she need to spend you know, the years that I
Speaker 9: would probably say some of the most important years about
Speaker 9: finding out who she is as a person and developing
Speaker 9: her own identity. Why should she be spending those years
Speaker 9: comparing herself to others?
Speaker 4: Is she wanting it? Has she been trying to ask
Speaker 4: for it or pressure you for it.
Speaker 9: So far. Look, probably twelve months ago she did because
Speaker 9: she's one of the only ones in her friendship group
Speaker 9: without it. So we let her have kids Messenger because
Speaker 9: that's something we can monitor and she's not being exposed to,
Speaker 9: you know, the highlight reels on Instagram and TikTok. But
Speaker 9: after we had that conversation with her and said we
Speaker 9: don't think that she's emotionally mature enough to be exposed
Speaker 9: to some of the content, she understands and she knows
Speaker 9: that her time will come and we will let her
Speaker 9: have it one day, but it's just not right now.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: It's scarce the bejeevas out of me.
Speaker 9: Up.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I look online and I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 5: I have the emotional capacity to.
Speaker 2: Deal with it alone, bring in and keeth in and
Speaker 2: then having it. I actually genuinely it plays on my mind.
Speaker 7: I think you need to have very good boundaries as
Speaker 7: a parent with this. You have to be okay with
Speaker 7: saying no to your children, and that's something that a
Speaker 7: lot of parents struggle with, especially when you want to
Speaker 7: be friends with your kids. Having those boundaries and saying
Speaker 7: no can be really, really hard and also as an adult.
Speaker 7: As a parent, you have to be social media literate.
Speaker 7: You've got to understand what's happening on social media to
Speaker 7: be able to help educate your kids and protect them.
Speaker 2: Go live in the real world, Get outside kids.
Speaker 6: All right, let's get out of here. If you missed
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Speaker 4: Everyone, boys, what's on the show?
Speaker 3: Goodday, guys, massive show.
Speaker 10: We're going to be joined by the new Sunrise host,
Speaker 10: Huge Shoes to fill filling in the Great David Kostia's shoes. Yes,
Speaker 10: it is Matt shirvingson. Plus, Will is having a mental
Speaker 10: health day today, so a very very special guest is
Speaker 10: filling in for him. And I'll tell you who that
Speaker 10: is when our show begins.
Speaker 2: Right up next sounds good guys, can't wait, see you
Speaker 2: all tomorrow.
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