WEBVTT - FULLSHOW! Is this the worst ghosting in dating history? 👻 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:14.600 Come on in. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.119 Oh we're on Hello Happy Tuesday. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.000 Bear the odd today? Is it odd? 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.280 Or is it really happy? Brint walked in like a 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:28.960 bulleted gate. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.479 Okay, well I ducked to Hamilton Island on the weekend, 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.400 so I'm feeling refreshed. I took my lover Ben there 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.680 because I wanted to really impress him with Australia. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.280 And I mean, if you want to be impressed and 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:40.160 go to Hamilton Island. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.000 But this morning Ben and I did our first official 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:46.360 photo shoot. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.480 Now we did an unofficial photoshooty. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:50.680 Sorry, you say that as if everyone has it. When 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.600 everyone when. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.440 You've just given birth and you have like the first 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.760 photo shoot for your newborn baby, you've had like a 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.760 first photo shoot for your relationship. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.120 That's correct, Yes, yeah, totally normal photo. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.240 So what's the photo shoot for. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.360 It's for a Stellar magazine. They wanted to do like 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:09.360 a little thing on us. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.880 Also totally normal. That's exactly what everyone does when they 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.119 have a new relationship. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:14.479 Normal. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.360 But seeing Ben so Ben Ben plays football. Ben is 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.840 not he's not dainty and he's not a model. But 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.240 he It was seeing him from the camera and in 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.720 our world a little bit, and he was beautiful clothes 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.160 on and he was doing all these model. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:27.600 Faces and he's like, babies, it's okay. And I'm like, 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:28.280 you're doing really well. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.120 And then I saw the photo and I was like, like, damn. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.280 If I wasn't already dating you, i'd want to date you. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.600 Well, you spend your morning having a lovely photo shoot, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.479 and I spent my morning cleaning dog pool off my child, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.720 who did like a body. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.200 Slide across the backyard. She was okay, I like, I 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.120 shook the mandarin tree. A mandarins fell down. 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.600 She body slid across the yard and body slid straight 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.400 over dog pooh. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.600 Body actually slide, yeah, slide. Yeah. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.080 You just hold them by a foot. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.120 It's awful. 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.680 You throw them in the bit and have a third Wow. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.640 All right, guys, I want to tell you about a woman. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.480 We've all we have all been ghosted in our life, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.400 right or we've all been a ghoster, you know when 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.240 you just go up and leave. So I've been a 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.320 ghost and a ghost. I think I've probably done both too. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.519 I want to tell you about the ultimate ghosting story. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.040 There is no ghosting story I have ever heard in 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.760 my ghosting days that trumps this story. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.799 Casper coming right up boo. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.359 After this on the pick up. It is the pick 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.600 Up Tuesday Afternoon with Britt, Laura and Mitch. Right now, 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.440 get half price off cosmetics across the Maybe Leine, Revlon 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.600 Rimmel and Nude by Nature Rangers at Chemist Warehouse. 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:38.799 BRIT's got a ghost story. 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.080 Okay, it's not a real life ghost story, although I 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.880 do see ghosts, but that's that's a. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:46.680 Story in itself. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.400 Do you know about Laura that she saw ghosts? 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:49.440 She does. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.400 I have a story for you about the ultimate ghosting 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:54.919 story in a relationship. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.600 Now, it's an Aussie woman who goes by the name. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:02:58.799 Is a Belle. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.600 She doesn't go by the name. Her name is Isabelle 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.760 Glassenbury and she's thirty one years old. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.000 Now. Her ghosting story is one for the ages. I 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.440 feel very sorry for her. She met her husband, who 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.800 was a Texan. She met him back in twenty fifteen 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.160 and they moved down Under in twenty eighteen. Now, if 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.800 you do the mass, that's eight years they've been together. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:16.280 Right. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:17.320 She got married. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.120 Her family paid for this amazing wed and fifty thousand 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.320 dollars in Sydney. Her parents also helped pay for his visa, 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.680 which was ten thousand dollars. Because you know, that's what 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.239 you do when you're in love, and that's what you 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.639 do for your family to help them have the ultimate 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.160 beautiful family life. You know, they've been together like six 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.760 to eight years. You want them to have the happy life. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.560 She went out to celebrate him getting his visa, his 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.920 Australian visa. She came home from the dinner to a 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:48.320 house that ninety percent of the furniture and his stuff 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:53.240 was gone one day after the visa. Anyway, she tried 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.840 logging into the immigration accounts, but she'd been locked out 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.360 of everything, all accounts, Her credit card was. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:03.200 Maxed, was blocked by the cowboy, by. 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.960 The Texan cowboy, the texting ghost, and none of her 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:06.960 calls and messages of going through. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.800 It's actually really really sad. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:09.880 It's really hard. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.760 To go someone these days because everyone has social media. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.640 Or did he just delete all of his social media? 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.240 He deleted his entire life. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:16.679 It's the ultimate ghost. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.200 In eight years, he put in the long game for 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.000 that visa and then he left. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.200 Wouldn't the red flag be that he wasn't at his 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.800 own visa celebration at dinner and she went home. 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:30.000 I don't know. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.320 Look, it just says she was out celebrating his visa acquirement, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.360 but I think I think she was celebrating with her 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.279 own parents, maybe because they were the ones that paid 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:40.560 for it. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.440 So maybe, look, bitch, you're asking the technical questions. 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.520 Okay, I don't think that this guy met her back 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.200 in twenty fifteen and thought, you know what, in eight 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.120 years time, I mean it, this is the girl who's 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.480 going to get me into Australia. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:53.279 I reckon. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.120 They were in her relationship, he loved her, he was happy, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.560 and then eventually the wheels started falling off the wagon 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.320 and they were already married, and he was like, well, 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.280 look I'm just gonna wait for my visa to come through. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.760 He's so chicken that he couldn't deal with the confrontation 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.200 and just walk away from the relationships. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:08.480 I have another theory. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:09.640 He was aducted by alien. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.800 He was abducted, and then the house was broken into 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.719 that same night and all their stuff was taken. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:15.240 This is horrific. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.960 Heaps of people reported it into immigration and no one 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:19.920 did anything about it. And you know what the icing 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.520 on the cake is, Yeah, one year later to the day, 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.599 he got married again. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.240 Oh, he was having an affair. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:31.360 He's a scam artist, or he is having an affair, 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:31.839 or he's. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:32.120 Just a dick. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.359 I feel like people have ghosting stories out there, Like 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.120 you go on, you catch up with a friend after 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.640 a couple of years of not seeing him, and I 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.679 feel like everyone's friend has a ghosting story. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.520 I've ghosted a couple of people in my time. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.920 I'm very conflict avoidant, so I would just not reply 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.479 to them after a bad dates and just never text 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:46.840 him again. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.039 It's a difference with not replying to a bumble and 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.160 ghosting them and marrying them for eight years and then 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.080 being like Maye and. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.880 Getting a Hurts truck filled with all your furniture and 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.480 take some sunset. Five hundred dollars at chemist ware House. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.400 Let's put that up. That's the bounty. If you can 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.279 tell us you're crazy ghosting story and also have you 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.279 been ghosted or have you ghosted? Someone will give the 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.080 best story five hundred bucks atchemist ware House. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.960 Zero judgment, because you know what happens to the best 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.680 of us, a little bit of judgment. I'm going to 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.200 judge your hard healthy amount. Five hundred bucks up for grabs. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:15.960 Go to the Pickup dot com dot A. All right, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.200 next on the show, this is a big celeb. I 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.680 mean we have Jason Derulo. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.200 On this show. We've got massive stars. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:25.440 But next, one of Laura's favorite celebs, doctor Justin Coulson 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.560 from Parental Guidance on Channel nine. If you're thinking about 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.600 putting your kids on social media, parents, this is going 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:31.960 to be a chat you're not gonna want to miss. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:32.279 We'll do it. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.240 Next on the Pickup, It is the pick Up right 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.200 around the country. Tuesday, are Vo with Britt, Laura and 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.359 Mitch head into Chemists ware House Today, great savings everyday, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.599 real interesting show back on Channel nine at the moment, Guys, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.840 Parental Guidance hosted by Ali Lingdon. It was on last night, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.400 it's back on tonight. Everyone's loving it by the Parental 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:53.000 Guidance expert, doctor Justin Coulson is joining us. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.040 Now, you guys know this guy. He's a superstar. He's 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:55.400 a legend. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.000 Yeah, he's a legend in a parenting world. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.640 And I also think that because I'm the one here 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.279 that has kids like this is this is my wheelhouse, 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:02.080 this is my show. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:03.680 Are you kN I mean Justin's there, But you're a 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.920 big fan of you're wearing a Justin Colson Shirtman. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.159 You got the cap Hi doctor Justin? How are you going? 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:08.640 Welcome? 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.160 It's so nice to be with you, guys. I didn't 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:12.440 know the shirt was available already. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:13.240 That's correct, it is. 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.000 We're selling it as merch after the show as well. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.840 For anyone who hasn't seen what Parental Guidance is, can 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.160 you give us a little bit of an overview of 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:20.560 what the show actually entails. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:21.040 Yeah. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:21.240 Sure. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.920 We get a whole bunch of parents who have very 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.679 different parenting styles. They go through a range of different 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.480 challenges with their kids, and then we watch those challenges 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.480 back and pretty much say, hey, what did you like 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.559 and what didn't you like? What can we learn about 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.800 parenting from your parenting style? 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.320 When you have these different, very different types of parenting styles, 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.280 and as someone who is a psychologist, do you look 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.520 at these and say some of them are vastly better 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.840 than others or is it just a case that they're different? 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.520 Yeah, so very much. The second one, like, there are 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.400 definitely things that you can do that will mess up 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.520 your kids, but we're very very careful with the parents 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.960 woul dream. Under this show, they go through psychological tar 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.560 and we make sure that they're good parents who are 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.120 raising their kids well. But gee, they do it differently. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.040 I mean you've got out back parents who are teaching 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.480 their kids to shoot guns and drive cars from the 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.040 age of eight or nine, and then you've got gentle 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.040 parents who don't ever raise their voices to their kids. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.680 What I loved watching was the parents that have their 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.920 children on social media. So this was on the show 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.160 last night if anyone missed it. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.760 Our parents and Style as influencer. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.560 As they explore parenting. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:27.560 Are you blocking your ears? 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.840 Right here in the digital age, our rules around technology 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.280 are basically non existent. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.240 I'm curious what a Wow gave your kids an account? 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.000 Maybe she's up to five hundred thousand followers. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.000 Now what's your stance on this on because Laura, your 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:44.880 kids are on social media and they have been from 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:45.400 a young age. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.640 I mean my kids don't have social media. They're two 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.439 and three. That they appear on my social media? 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.280 Yes, yes, yeah, where do you stand on that? 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.600 Justin like kids on social media, then kids having their 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.280 own social media accounts? 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.440 Yeah, So Laura is doing what we call share and ping, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.800 which is where we're sharing the lives of our children 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.720 on social media. And this is a pre provocative and 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.040 controversial thing in and of itself, because one day the 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.480 kids might look back and say, Hey, I wanted privacy 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.160 and now I'm an adult, I don't like the fact 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:13.160 that my life is everywhere. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:13.880 Yeah, totally. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:15.160 Then we've got. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.880 These parents, Jonathan and kat who frankly, I think that 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.120 they represent themselves so well. And what they're saying is, 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.319 whether you like it or not, social media is part 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.640 of the fabric of the society in which we live. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.040 And you can try to keep your kids off it 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.880 all you like, but they will be on it. So 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.600 isn't it better to teach them how to use it well? 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.800 And I mean, I think that they're doing a fantastic job. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.720 Do you think it affects children in terms of how 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.320 they get validation? How is that going to impact kids 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:41.959 as they get older? 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.319 Okay, so two things here. First of all, I want 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.040 to get technical and legal for a sec that whole 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.680 thirteen years of age that only exists because in America, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.680 when social media is being developed, the lobbyists and the 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.360 technology companies had lots of meetings with the politicians in 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.040 Congress and decided on what we might call the a 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.959 age of Internet maturity, and there were some people who 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.200 were saying you need to be eighteen, some people saying fifteen. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.280 In the end, they chose thirteen. And all it means 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.960 is American companies and not allowed to collect data on 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.640 people under the age of thirteen. That's the only reason 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.600 that rule of Instagram at thirteen is there. It's true 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.440 that some of them will get caught up in how 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.480 many likes they're getting, how many shares they're getting, and 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.160 how many followers they've got. What I would say, though, 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:28.240 is there are probably in most kids' lives many many 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.320 more things that matter so much more in terms of 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.040 their welfare and their wellbeing than how many likes they're getting, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.320 Like the quality of the relationship they have with you 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.520 as parents or with their friends, the extracurricular activities they're doing, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.520 and what they're doing well in life. All that stuff, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.600 I reckon is going to have a much bigger impact 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.760 on their self esteem and their wellbeing than how many 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:48.480 followers they've gone. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.800 My worry is who's watching these If you go on 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.400 to some of these kids instagrams and you look at 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.280 the followers and the people that are liking this content, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.640 I mean, a lot of them are people that shouldn't 0:10:59.640 --> 0:10:59.800 be there. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.360 It's not the man, they're men from other countries. They're 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.480 adults that you're like, what are you getting from this? 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:05.400 And I guess that's. 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.040 Where my worry comes into having a nine year old 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:09.360 or below on social media. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.680 There are a lot of people who should not be 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.960 in there who are, and they are approaching our kids. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:18.360 Once again, Jonathan Kat the influencer parents, they're really clear 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.880 that when they're dealing with their younger child, their nine 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.479 year old and her social media accounts, they're involved, they're monitoring, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.240 they're having conversations, and they're actively teaching how to be safe. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.880 And frankly, we've got to do it. Whether our kids 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.280 want to be influencers or YouTube stars or professional gamers, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.120 or whether they're just like the average kid who has 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.960 an account and wants to hang out with their friends, 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.959 we've got to be involved to keep them safe. It's 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.840 critically important, not in a controlling way, but in a 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.520 I'm the wise adult in this relationship, and we need 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:51.120 to talk about this. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:51.720 Listen. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.640 You can get the Happy Families podcast now. It's available 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:56.959 on the iHeartRadio app. If you want to have a 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.720 listen that's brilliant and of course Parental Guidance with doctor 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.600 Justin Coulson tonight seven thirty on Channel nine. Thank you 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.319 for coming on the Pickup, doctor Justin appreciate it. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.040 Yeah, hey, also be with you and just on the podcast. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.120 We're doing mega recaps of every episode at the moment, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.080 so definitely worth checking it out if you get a. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:13.840 Chance, right, get it on. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.000 Thank you, thanks so much. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:16.800 Hey, you know I'd be. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.880 Interested to open the lines on thirteen one oh six 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.199 five and just get just pull the land. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:22.960 Well, I want to know, like, do you have your 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.280 kids on social media? And if so, honey, navigate it. 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.320 But like for the people who are very against it, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:29.400 why are you against it? 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.160 Yeah, let's do it after this on the Pickup Tuesday afternoon. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.760 On the Pickup, it's Britt, Laura and Mitch here right now. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.200 Get half price off cosmetics across the maybe Lene Revlon Rimmel, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:39.000 Nude by Nature. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.080 The list goes on. It's all great Rangers, all at 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:41.880 chemist ware House. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.000 Now, we were just talking to one of Australia's most 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.520 trusted parenting experts. His name is doctor Coulson. He's on 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.040 Parental Guidance the new TV show Channel nine. Oh my god, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.000 it's very brilliant. If you're a parent who's just fumbling 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.079 your way through trying to figure out the right way 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:56.280 to parent, as we all are. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.240 It is a truly brilliant show. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.319 But we got talking about social media and whether it's 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.319 okay to have your kids on social media or not, 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.960 because there is one family who is on the show 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.800 at the moment and they have a nine year old 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.920 who has their own social media account. They have like 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.120 five hundred thousand followers, and they're also making money as 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.920 a nine year old off the social media account. I mean, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.560 my kids, they feature on my social media from time 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.680 to time. But I think that there's a really big 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.520 difference between making money from your children on social media 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.800 and just sharing kind of like the highlight reel. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:27.960 Of what's happening in your life. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.480 Because if you're a mummy blogger and that's your one 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.640 and only job is to be a mummy blogger and 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.640 to talk about the experience of parenting, and that's how 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.120 you make all your money. I think the big issue 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.520 with that type of social media is that then it 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.280 makes it really hard to say no when jobs come in. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.360 So instead of being able to have a good litmus 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.560 for the types of things that you share about your kids. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.120 If all your income is tied up on social media 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.360 and you don't have any other ways of making an income, 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.240 it makes it really challenging to say I don't want 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:56.440 to do that job or I don't want to put 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.880 my kid in that campaign, because ultimately you're saying no 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.000 to money. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.040 Kids get the money. Are you putting it in an 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:03.360 account for the kids? 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.560 Like where's are going? Are the kids earning the money 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.599 for the parents and the parents are just using it themselves. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.080 I think there's a whole other layer to it. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:10.240 Well. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.320 Also means right that you need to share the more 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.920 and more personal, the more vulnerable, the more challenging parts 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.000 of parenting that you share, the bigger your community gets 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.640 online because the more mums relate to it, the more 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.760 they want to talk about it, and that's how you 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.920 kind of grow your following. But the thing I think 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.360 is really worrying about that is that if you're sharing 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.080 the really vulnerable bits about your parenting experience, you're also 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.240 sharing the really vulnerable bits about your kids as well, 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.440 and your kids can't opt into that. And that's where 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:36.960 I think it's a bit of a gray area where 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.400 this sharenting thing can go too far. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.040 It's all well and good to say kids are on 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.760 social media and then assume that kids are the only 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.920 people engaging with that content, but it's not true. There 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.560 are creeps on the Internet that look at content. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.440 So what about their privacy? 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:48.960 Exactly? 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.800 I think social media overall for children would have an 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.400 overarchingly negative effect. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:55.320 Oh it does. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.600 It's proven, and. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:57.560 It's so addictive. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.680 That's the big thing, more so than just having a 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.640 data impact. It's so addictive. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.120 We've got Emma on thirteen one or six five high. Emma, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:05.840 you've got your kids. What does your stance on this? 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:06.680 Hi? 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.600 I am yeah. I have an eleven year old daughter, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.720 and I just feel like she doesn't need social media 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.040 right now. She has the rest of her life to 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.400 be on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook. So why does 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.640 she need to spend you know, the years that I 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.920 would probably say some of the most important years about 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.040 finding out who she is as a person and developing 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.000 her own identity. Why should she be spending those years 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.720 comparing herself to others? 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.240 Is she wanting it? Has she been trying to ask 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.400 for it or pressure you for it. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.520 So far. Look, probably twelve months ago she did because 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.360 she's one of the only ones in her friendship group 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:50.360 without it. So we let her have kids Messenger because 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.120 that's something we can monitor and she's not being exposed to, 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.800